Look around you!! Mothers raise their sons to be good little servants for women. Mothers are more loyal to the cause of women exploiting men than they are to their sons.
It’s the responsibility and nature of a woman to reject what men say especially if you challenges the norm. I personally would stay away from the title MGTOW. Not because it’s good or bad because groups segregates humans. Woman don’t talk like men they talk in riddles they talk backwards and they leave clues the problem is you’re actually listening to what they’re saying like a man so you’re taking what they’re saying as a face value.
I think most of the men who are following their own way were fucked over in divorce court so badly that it hit them deep and probably ruined their lives. My dad told me he met a man at McDonald’s who told him his wife divorced him and he lost his house, kids, all of his money, and his car. My dad didn’t seem to care. But it hit me like a truck. My dad is too old fashioned even though he was told by my mother that she didn’t love him anymore and before that m I’m pretty sure she cheated with their fitness trainer. 😬 Yet my dad remarried. I tried to get him to do a prenup this time but he refused. 🤷🏻♂️ I don’t want to see him in my bedroom crying again... it hurt the first time to see my own father cry and hear that he would often cry at work too. Openly. Which is good that he can express his emotions so easily but at the same time he shouldn’t have had to in the first place...
@Still-alive First of all I'm not. Second of all, I don't appreciate the personal attack. Especially from you. (If friends like you want to act like that, who needs enemies?). Thirdly, if you have an opinion on the matter, you could have just shared your opinion respectfully like everyone else.
this question proves you are an incel just accept it dude. stop crying when someone calls you out. I notice you wanna just say bullshit and act like you didn't say it when people shove it back in your face.
We aren't friends by the way. i un-followed you for a reason.
but ok mr jamie lets go through oyur bullshit post one by one
"A lot of girls seem to get really offended when they hear that a man has chosen to give up on women entirely and no longer seek relationships with them. (I'm not one of those guys, but I'm certainly sympathetic to their views.)"
1. where have they done this post examples. Because i never have and most of the girls here haven't either. and
2. i like how you attempt to tell us how you aren't one of them. well i for one don't believe you at all.
"But what if they haven't? What is their reason then? It seems a bit paranoid to me; no offense."
No one is doing or saying this. you're making shit up to suit your own biases here.
"And what's even more intriguing and fascinating is -- get this -- they still want to have children! They want to make themselves into single parents... on purpose! I mean, who the f does that? "
Again post proof of women that actually say they want this. stop making shit up here its making you look bad
"Isn't that interesting?" that isn't interesting but it is interesting how you think any of this is actually reality. i sure haven't seen proof of it. sounds more like you've fallen for the incel mgtow talking points here and just regurgitating them. yes you are an incel if you truly think these things are true.
@Still-alive I'm not going to respond with hate as you have chosen to do. I'm going to take the high road, my friend. That's something I learned from Michelle Obama.
yes say hateful shit and get bent out of shape when people call you out for it. im not buying it dude. you can't ignore your critics forever. sooner or later you'll have to acknowledge them.
Sorry, man. It's just that I didn't have a clear opinion formed in my mind. I asked it as a question because it honestly generates a lot of questions that are seeking answers, in my opinion.
Uninvited opinion alert -> All do respect, you get to define and make of marriage what YOU want. Marriage is not some unmovable term. For every couple the definition could and should vary. The participants of marriage are not victims. And if they are, they have fallen victim to ignorance or lack of ONE mutual marriage vision. Can you see that what you're saying sounds like victim mentality?
@GaGirls True. Except marriage comes with legal baggage. And we know who's usually expected to carry the baggage.
Even should you establish an agreement, one party can change their mind (fall out of love, boredom, etc.) and terminate the whole thing, potentially even being rewarded for doing so.
The abundance of caution is indeed part of a victim mentality, but apparently there's no other way to resolve the issue. Men and women will be victims to the extent that they are not cautions. Sticking to your ONE definition of marriage will end with you in a prison or with a restraining order.
@TsAubreyKate I don't think they know you're supposed to cook. I think most think winging it is normal. Certainly most people are too weak though, as you said. For that reason after knowledge is presented to them in these groups they close their minds. I really would love to have a more developed opinion on the topic but I have no real motive for learning about "GTOW"
It will be interesting to see how this all ages through time.
Concept of marriage, relationship, and parenting to me is being a good team player. So far it takes two to tango. Even for legal system. Most of the time single mothers kids are the one who find there way to penitentiary. It took a while for US gove to fix that problem ti some extent. I would urge women to not go that way.
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Look around you!! Mothers raise their sons to be good little servants for women. Mothers are more loyal to the cause of women exploiting men than they are to their sons.
Because you don’t know fk all about women. And you’re using male psychology trying to understand them.
@MJtheCoach Please explain your point of view.
It’s the responsibility and nature of a woman to reject what men say especially if you challenges the norm. I personally would stay away from the title MGTOW. Not because it’s good or bad because groups segregates humans.
Woman don’t talk like men they talk in riddles they talk backwards and they leave clues the problem is you’re actually listening to what they’re saying like a man so you’re taking what they’re saying as a face value.
@MJtheCoach Ok; so what do you think they're saying, then?
I don’t care what they say. When they talk I take it from what ear to another and I do what I want.
it could be evolution but i'd like to see another flu variant before i say for sure
Have all MGTOW been hurt by women and that's why they do it?
I think most of the men who are following their own way were fucked over in divorce court so badly that it hit them deep and probably ruined their lives. My dad told me he met a man at McDonald’s who told him his wife divorced him and he lost his house, kids, all of his money, and his car. My dad didn’t seem to care. But it hit me like a truck. My dad is too old fashioned even though he was told by my mother that she didn’t love him anymore and before that m I’m pretty sure she cheated with their fitness trainer. 😬 Yet my dad remarried. I tried to get him to do a prenup this time but he refused. 🤷🏻♂️ I don’t want to see him in my bedroom crying again... it hurt the first time to see my own father cry and hear that he would often cry at work too. Openly. Which is good that he can express his emotions so easily but at the same time he shouldn’t have had to in the first place...
ahhh your true incel colors are showing like we all knew you were :)
@Still-alive That was quite rude. Why are you being hateful? I have never done anything you.
haha what you can't handle criticism? nothing rude about it. just calling you what you are. this drivel you posted is totally idiotic.
@Still-alive First of all I'm not. Second of all, I don't appreciate the personal attack. Especially from you. (If friends like you want to act like that, who needs enemies?). Thirdly, if you have an opinion on the matter, you could have just shared your opinion respectfully like everyone else.
this question proves you are an incel just accept it dude. stop crying when someone calls you out. I notice you wanna just say bullshit and act like you didn't say it when people shove it back in your face.
We aren't friends by the way. i un-followed you for a reason.
but ok mr jamie lets go through oyur bullshit post one by one
"A lot of girls seem to get really offended when they hear that a man has chosen to give up on women entirely and no longer seek relationships with them. (I'm not one of those guys, but I'm certainly sympathetic to their views.)"
1. where have they done this post examples. Because i never have and most of the girls here haven't either. and
2. i like how you attempt to tell us how you aren't one of them. well i for one don't believe you at all.
"But what if they haven't? What is their reason then? It seems a bit paranoid to me; no offense."
No one is doing or saying this. you're making shit up to suit your own biases here.
"And what's even more intriguing and fascinating is -- get this -- they still want to have children! They want to make themselves into single parents... on purpose! I mean, who the f does that? "
Again post proof of women that actually say they want this. stop making shit up here its making you look bad
"Isn't that interesting?" that isn't interesting but it is interesting how you think any of this is actually reality. i sure haven't seen proof of it. sounds more like you've fallen for the incel mgtow talking points here and just regurgitating them. yes you are an incel if you truly think these things are true.
anyway. lets see you cry about this too. :)
@Still-alive you choose to push people away even when they want to love you and all they ever did was treat you kindly. I think that's sad.
I know you have faced a lot of personal struggles in your life, but you can't let those situations make you into a bitter person.
wtf does that have anything to do with what i said?
dude you play this "ill say vile hatefult shit but expect you to respect me' card all the fucking time on here. its so old dude lol.
I love people close to me. i don't care about some mgtow agenda pushing incel like you. cry me a fucking river lol
@Still-alive I'm not going to respond with hate as you have chosen to do. I'm going to take the high road, my friend. That's something I learned from Michelle Obama.
I hope you have a better day.
yes say hateful shit and get bent out of shape when people call you out for it. im not buying it dude. you can't ignore your critics forever. sooner or later you'll have to acknowledge them.
This should be a mytake instead of a question. That is my only gripe. 😃
Sorry, man. It's just that I didn't have a clear opinion formed in my mind. I asked it as a question because it honestly generates a lot of questions that are seeking answers, in my opinion.
Oh yeah. I think you’re right. It’s trending as one of the top questions right now.
@Mangospacho Cool! Thanks!
Maybe men don't waste time thinking about others?
What does we lose if someone decide to have no relationship
Women have always gone their own way. Lmao. They do what they want.
Marriage isn't what it used to be and more and more men and women can see that now.
Uninvited opinion alert -> All do respect, you get to define and make of marriage what YOU want. Marriage is not some unmovable term. For every couple the definition could and should vary. The participants of marriage are not victims. And if they are, they have fallen victim to ignorance or lack of ONE mutual marriage vision. Can you see that what you're saying sounds like victim mentality?
@GaGirls I still believe in love and 2 people can still love each other without getting married.
@GaGirls True. Except marriage comes with legal baggage. And we know who's usually expected to carry the baggage.
Even should you establish an agreement, one party can change their mind (fall out of love, boredom, etc.) and terminate the whole thing, potentially even being rewarded for doing so.
The abundance of caution is indeed part of a victim mentality, but apparently there's no other way to resolve the issue. Men and women will be victims to the extent that they are not cautions. Sticking to your ONE definition of marriage will end with you in a prison or with a restraining order.
They ride the CC till they hit the wall. It's not rocket science
This is the laziest sht I ever heard everyone wants the meal but don’t wanna cook it just *poof* instant perfect relationship
Everybody wants to go to heaven but nobody wants to die. I don't think that is it though. I think they don't know how to die.
Let's send them to heaven
@GaGirls that’s no excuse not to try it’s discouraging but the truth is too many people aren’t strong enough to love
@TsAubreyKate I don't think they know you're supposed to cook. I think most think winging it is normal. Certainly most people are too weak though, as you said. For that reason after knowledge is presented to them in these groups they close their minds. I really would love to have a more developed opinion on the topic but I have no real motive for learning about "GTOW"
It will be interesting to see how this all ages through time.
Women are children and hate when men give them a taste of their own medicine.
Don’t even think MGTOW is real. Any of those fcks would say yes to a date any day.
What the female fucks who say women don't need men?
@marish01 just like male fcks. I don’t believe them.
MGTOW men, aren't real men
Women look at those men and think, they aren't real men, why aren't they MANNING UP
Stop trying so hard. You're not going to impress any chick with your "gentleman" behaviour.
Just sayin'
If you say so.
Yeah
Yes, real men run into gunfire despite all the reasons why it's practically fatal to do so. Then real men must be stupid men.
Some of those women don't mean it
@Hangry06 What do you mean?
Most people do not want to be alone for the rest of their lives. Some of them still hold out hope for love and stuff
@Hangry06 Well, that's good. 💜
women are more men than men are men
That is possible.
Is it plausible
Aye.
It's almost impossible to find good one. 🙂
Concept of marriage, relationship, and parenting to me is being a good team player. So far it takes two to tango. Even for legal system. Most of the time single mothers kids are the one who find there way to penitentiary. It took a while for US gove to fix that problem ti some extent. I would urge women to not go that way.
gov.* to* I would WTNGTOW
I would urge WTNGTOW *
You're absolutely right, Peter.
M/WGTOW is a big problem in Japan.
So, sorry that I haven't answered your question yet. I think it has to be same reason as Japan and bunch of other BS excuses for us Americans.
Hmm. I guess so!
Lol.. both movements are for fools.
Never heard of this