Was Will Smith slapping Chris Rock at the Oscars over a joke about his wife right or wrong?

[coachTanthony]

Right.

Wrong.

see poll ( he should of kissed him )

[MCheetah]

Will Smith was 100% wrong and if anyone disagrees with me, I get to slap them in the face, cause that's how that works, right?

If he's justified in attacking Chris Rock - A COMEDIAN - for making a joke about his wife who cheated on him, doesn't respect him, and called HIM the "disappointment" in front of all her feminist friends, then I'm more than justified in beating him with a baseball bat for making After Earth, I guess. And YouTube Rewind 2018. And Gemini Man. And that "serious" Fresh Prince of Bel Air reboot.

You see, if we can just go around assaulting people because we simply feel like it, then it's all fair game! Especially when the man thinking he can attack people is a literal cuckold who's wife dogged HIM out for HER cheating on him! And NOW he thinks he gets to act like a man? I'm sorry, but Chris Rock should've f*cked him up. Yes, despite how small and skinny Chris Rock is. Will Smith is beyond an embarrassment, nowadays.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/TT7GyxZwpVA

Take a look at this video above. THIS is the woman he wants to "defend" and thinks he can justify getting a f*cking ass-whupping from a real man, to do it for. If he did this to someone like, Joe Rogan (also a former comedian) or hell, ANY athlete, Will Smith would've gotten humiliated yet AGAIN in front of millions of people when the retaliation happened and he curled up in a fetal ball on the floor to shield himself.

Will Smith is such a hollow shell of a man now. And I think it's mostly due to Jada. She sucked the soul out of him. And THIS is who he wants to get f*cked up in a brawl, or sued into oblivion over?

[MCheetah]

Also, what kind of bitch-made man slaps another man? Unless you're Rick James or about to duel by pistols at noon. "First of all, you don't slap a man. They'd have a gun fight after that!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FmYmdGRONI

[Kreneman]

For starters, Chris Rock is no stranger to Will & Jada, they know each other very well as friends and worked with each other plus Chris Rock met know harm when he told the G. I Jane joke towards Jada. Will Smith also laughed when Chris told the Joke until he realized that his wife Jada rolled up her eyes in then he lost it by going up on stage and Slapping his Friend on National television in then repeatedly yelling at Chris by saying KEEP MY WIFE OUT YOUR F×××××× MOUTH! . Will & Jada already knows that when you're celebrity, you're going to be talked about and joked about plus they already know that is what Chris Rock does. Its true that Jada have been suffering from hair loss plus they're rumors that is stating that Chris did not know but that doesn't excuse Will Smith for his bad behavior. This is the first time this ever happened at the Oscars, it created other problems for tv networks around the globe, it was extremely embarrassing, uncomfortable for fans, and celebrities according to their statements. It's no big secret that the Smith family needs professional help especially what have happened between Will & Jada almost breaking up because of infidelity and their son Jaden issues. The Oscars have already confirmed that they're going to seek punishment on Will Smith on April 18 and from this incident, We could learn a lot from this. In my opinion, the Oscars, Grammy's, Espy's, Music Awards, and etc should have more safety measures of policies for celebrities because most them are going through some serious issues, Anybody that is hosting or presenting an award or announcing should have a fine line on what to say and what not to say to keep it professional with caution. Furthermore award shows should research more to be aware on what's going with celebrities and events around the world to not comment, insult or cracking jokes that can cause incidents like this.

[Anonymous]

Honestly I don't like that much Jada but making fun of her illness is so far away from being funny. My best friend friend is a major in psychology and she searched a subject for a paper about a psychotic break and we both thought of Britney in 2007. We found out that women associate hair with a part of their being and touching hair can be seen as intimate. When women have a breakdown they often do something radical to their hair like cut them or dye them or in the case of Britney shaving them. And when we connected both of our brains we realized that unfortunately the Nazis understood that by saving the head of their prisoners right after they arrived. So it must be a truly terrible sensation to not have the control of what people associate with womanhood and a part of yourself. However I don't think that Will should have slapped Chris because violence isn't the answer and it will probably follow him for a long time just after winning the prize of a lifetime of work. Don't forget that he didn't have the perfect childhood and became famous due to his talent, and that he made a family of his own and even his wife betrayed him by having an affair which led up to him being a meme when oh shocking he showed weakness and cried. To add to this horrific affair Chris Rock isn't someone that I would describe has funny. Far from it. I'm not American and don't know all of the comedian that you have but after seeing this I watched some of his performances and not even a smile came. He isn't funny, the "joke" was of poor taste and Will shouldn't have slapped him. But in the end we mustn't forget that even though we admire these people they are human and sometimes get their emotions get the better of themselves.

[idkwhatsreal]

This wasn’t even insulting to Jada. Chris made an observation that she had short hair now and commented about it in a very tame joke. you could tell that joke to young children. This was not an attack whatsoever. But what will did is and he should be embarrassed and ashamed since he always is advocating peace and love. For such a minuscule quote to set him off in such an aggressive manner was very hypocritical. Chris rock was the bigger man in that situation for not hitting him back. Talk about embarrassing. He just got SLAPPED by another man on a very public stage in front all his peers and, just had to continue the show. No one knew about her alopecia till after this happened. Hollywood has become a disgrace. These people think they are so important and they just aren’t. But since people like them in a movie where they are acting…(meaning not themselves)…all their fans just advocate anything they do ever. It’s gross. . I lost a lot of respect for Will Smith seeng this happen. I bet his mom was soooooooooo proud watching from her knitting club. (Sarcasm)
Believe me i understand wanting to defend your wife but Chris didn’t hit her didn’t call her a bad name or anything of the sort. This was unwarranted. Anyone advocating or defending this is what’s wrong with America today. Well one of the things.

[Imsmurter1]

I know that joke was so tame not slap worthy at all!

[MzAsh]

The joke was in bad taste given her disease, otherwise it would have been fine. And while what Will did was also wrong, most men would understandably be upset too if their partner had an illness and someone made a joke at her expense about it.

[EmbraceThePain]

Agreed.

[Birdlegs]

Will thought it was funny at first he only did that after Jada was pissed about it

[EmbraceThePain]

So, I don’t think he did think it was funny.

He probably just laughed because it was the normal thing to do, but didn’t mean a cent of that laugh.

There are situations I’ve been in with people who didn’t like me, perhaps even hated me, and I’ve laughed or smiled at things they’ve said that were meant to be a jab at me, but with a humorous mask to pretend it was just to be funny.

I laughed and smiled but didn’t mean an ounce of it.

[EmbraceThePain]

They’re both men

That’s his wife.

His love and family.

Don’t talk shit about another man’s family.

Not everyone is from soft places and upbringings where you can say and do what you want without consequences.

Be mutually respectful.

[Birdlegs]

Did you see the video? He was genuinely laughing and Jada was PISSED then it cut away and then Will walked up. I doubt any normal person would go from laughing to fit in with the crowd to enough anger to go assault somebody on live television right before receiving an award. He thought it was funny and Jada didn’t do he went to “protect her” and made an ass of himself

[Birdlegs]

Also calling a bald woman gi Jane who was another bald woman in the movie isn’t talking shit. He didn’t say “Jada you’re bald you look like a milk dud” he’s a COMEDIAN that’s what he does

[EmbraceThePain]

So, I didn’t watch anything lmfao.

I’m just saying in general.

Respect

[MzAsh]

I think Will was prepared to laugh it off but after seeing Jadas reaction, he realized she didn’t appreciate the joke and he decided to react on that.

[anylolone]

1: Joke wasn't on her illness, but her "look".
2: Yes, people would be normally upset, not violent.

[MzAsh]

I didn’t condone his violence. And the joke was on her look that was caused by her disease. Still in bad taste.

[SinceYouAsked]

@anylolone Her 'look' was because of her disease. It caused her to lose her hair.

[hahahmm]

1. Almost nobody on earth even knew about her disease.
2. I saw a pic of her showing off her diseased spot... maybe the size of a penny on her scalp. So small you would never notice it when she lets her hair grow out.
3. She's been shaving her hair short for like 25-30 years. No way did it have anything to do with her disease. See point #2
4. Think about point #3 when you hear Chris's joke. He didn't know anything about her 'poor me' disease either.

[MzAsh]

I knew. But I also believe he might not have. Some celebs are so far up their own ass they don’t even know what’s going on.

[anylolone]

@SinceYouAsked Doesn't look like it.
The hair stubs seem to be all there.

[MzAsh]

🤦🏻‍♀️

[t_time]

Yes I agree with you a 100%

[Imsmurter1]

It was a lame joke but not worth violence plus profanity. Will’s reaction was barbaric in my opinion.

[SinceYouAsked]

@Imsmurter1 Barbaric? I think that's a bit of an overreaction. Barbaric would have been serious physical harm. All he did was bitch-slap him. I got worse than that from my dad for failing to do what he told me to do when he told me to do it. Way worse. People are so 'sensitive' today.

[Imsmurter1]

@SinceYouAsked I’d say your dad was barbaric too. Ok maybe barbaric is not the best word but it’s definitely not the civil/stately way to do things especially not at a formal event like the Oscars on national TV.

[SinceYouAsked]

@Imsmurter1 That's just the way things were back then. They had corporal punishment in school too. And you didn't go home and complain to your folks, if you were punished at school, because you'd get a worse whipping at home. Quite honestly, I sometimes think the world would be a little better if we didn't baby kids so much and if they knew there were consequences to their actions.

[anylolone]

@SinceYouAsked It's barbaric with serious physical harm or not.

Not much different than him hitting jada because she embarrassed him.

[SinceYouAsked]

@anylolone If you go with the definition being "lacking culture or refinement", I guess. I usually think of the other definition: "mercilessly harsh or cruel". So, was it lacking refinement? Yes. Was it mercilessly harsh or cruel? No.

[anylolone]

@SinceYouAsked No, no, I mean "not civilized" "acting uncivilly".
Which would be weird for a multi millionaire actor if we didn't knew better.

[NathanDavis]

I think it was wrong in so many different ways

it was more wrong than it was right... there's only one argument for him doing the right thing "he was defending his wife" however... as another celebrity pointed it out very well
if it had been The Rock, or Floyd Mayweather or any other famous person known for having violent tendencies and would have fought back Will Smith, most likely... would have not done the same thing to them, but it was Chris Rock...

and if this had happened on the streets, or outside a club or a place in which many others could have gotten involved for example a parking lot where all of the people who travel with Chris Rock had been around to intervene, Will Smith, most likely, would have not done the same thing... but he did it because it was the live stage of the Oscars...

he knows that what he did was wrong in so many ways and in so many levels, he lost control and he messed up... unfortunately, his ego got the best of him and it got him to do something so stupid like this

there are better ways and smarter ways to handle these things and he could have done that very well, if he had not lost control, and the best one... but who knows, I don't know what else he had going in his mind and his life because one thing it was absolutely clear Will Smith knows very well Chris Rock is just a comedian and he also knows very well that he's not a mean spirited comedian, he does pushes the boundaries yes, all the time... and with pretty much everyone and about everything, that's why Will Smith laughed at first and then later, he did what he did... for other reasons and not just the joke

if we are not consistent then we are making less sense... and Will Smith's actions were just senseless, those of a fool

[Lionman95]

having not seen the situation. It´s not a discussion of freedom of speech but of manners and respect for people you either have or you don´t. I think it´s deeply disrespectful towards a person if you make jokes about their diseases no matter who you are. It´s not an excuse that he has a comedian, there are about a 100 people and you make fun the only one that is fighting with a disease. Please tell me Chris Rock is so unknown in celebrity circle that he just knows Will and Jada Smith and therefore couldn´t make a joke about someone else. THAT would be a good excuse.
There are people taking their lifes because the consequences of that disease. Who knows how well she´s handling her situation?
I think WIll over-reacted and he should have done that in another moment and then probably in another way.
But I understand that he wanted to stand up for his wife as it should.
I therefore would say I understand Will Smith apologising to everyone EXCEPT Chris Rock because there are aspects you shouldn´t make fun of.

[ODC2112]

It seems like a pretty fake and planned thing. Will Smith is a great natural actor and the Oscars have been on the decline for years, you need something to talk about the award. Therefore, it was probably agreed.

I analyze the thing for what it is. The moment "a joke (horrendous imho) I respond with a slap" does nothing but legitimize the slap as a response to the word. It is a thing of a huge gravity. Because it gives reason to those we later call "monsters" when they give us a slap, when violence touches us closely. When we talk about free speech, we are referring to this in particular. Smith's is an assault on a person who is, by the way, paid to tease you.

If it wasn't planned and there was no contract to do it. Furthermore, he should be prosecuted and convicted of assault. Since the thing was broadcast worldwide and the aggression is obvious. As far as I'm concerned, Smith should lose the Oscar he won and should no longer be cast.

Furthermore, the justification that Smith gives to the thing is the same as that given by those who beat up his wife. I did it for love, love makes you do crazy things etc...
The thing in the case seems to me the classic Sicilian mafia behavior, he violated my wife's honor so he has to be beaten in public.

[HighlyVolatile]

I go with right and dead right. People on here have tried to give me more context to this that I wasn't aware of but I think this is a face-value thing. That is right as I see if we go by honor. Wisdom, maybe not so much, but definitely as far as honor. It'd be even better though if Chris Rock was 7-feet tall with enormous muscles and Will Smith had to reach up to slap him. That would be extremely honorable.

[coachTanthony]

So it's okay to assault people for words that they say? He's lucky he wasn't arrested.

[HighlyVolatile]

Too much wisdom is boring anyway. I like the notion of fighting words between men. If a man insults another man's wife in front of his face over something that bothers her deeply, those are fighting words. Life should be fun.

[HighlyVolatile]

I think he should have been arrested but should have done it anyway. As for assaulting people for what they say, yes, as long as we do it directly and with honor. Not this backstabbing, lying, cheating, cancel culture stuff. That is completely devoid of honor and fun.

[coachTanthony]

Okay thanks for the comments man.

[HighlyVolatile]

Cheers!

[HighlyVolatile]

I am a little bit of a barbarian in my thinking, admittedly. Sometimes I think I was born in the wrong time period. But I think fighting, as long as it is honorable and capable of showing mercy, can be a tool for conflict resolution. The ideal scenario as I see it is two men getting into an honorable fight, not to the death, and the winner helps the loser back to his feet and works things out over beers.

If we're comparing the worst-case scenarios, I at least think this is more productive than the indirect way of whispering behind each other's backs and basically using the metaphorical poison as a weapon rather than the directness of the fist. Ideally we use neither one of these tools, but I think the fist is at least better than poison.

[HighlyVolatile]

I'm probably gonna make some enemies here saying this but with the commentators saying "simp" this or "cuck" that about him for this action taken at face value of defending his honor and his wife's honor, not whatever other things, I think they are as women. Flinging words around to tarnish a man behind his back is a woman's way. That is not an honorable man's way, and that's the impression I get living in today's society: I'm surrounded by women, including ones with dicks.

[DownIndaDumpz]

It was intended to be an insult tho. He was jus tryna lighten the mood and be jokey and something stupid slipped out.. comedians make mistakes. Will needs to settle down

[DownIndaDumpz]

Wasn't intended*

[HighlyVolatile]

@DownIndaDumpz I might put it like a foolishness spectrum. :-D I'm in favor of a certain level of foolishness and pride in a man that we might excuse as "honor".

Take this notion I argued with my teachers and parents about until I was turning blue in the face. They said if someone picks a fight with us, we should run away and tell an adult. That seemed so wrong to me even in kindergarten, and maybe all I had was pride back then.

But the way I try to rationalize it is that we're creatures of habit. We get into the habit of letting these things slide, or running away, and maybe it's wise in some situations to let it slide, and wise in some situations to run away. But we're creatures of habits. The next time something much more important might be on the line, as the safety of our wives and children, and our habits might catch us to us then as to whether we defend them or abandon them.

So I like developing some foolish habits that might become noble ones in the right circumstances, and that's where I like the notion of fighting words and lines that two men should never cross with each other. Because it might be harmless in one case, like this one, but not in the other.

[MCheetah]

@HighlyVolatile
You wrote a MyTake about Cancel Culture, but how is this not in the same league as Cancel Culture.

It's okay to hurt people due to jokes? It's okay to do whatever you want to people because you "got offended" That's literally the same line of thinking as Cancel Culture.

Believe me; if I lived in a society that condoned "do what you feel like" if you get offended, I'd be out here Purgin' motherf*ckers. Riding around with a mini-gun, shooting up places like I'm part of ISIS or something. Is that really the society 41% of people on here are advocating for?

Someone offends you, so you get to be violent to them? I'm just making sure, cause I don't have a problem with that, either way. But I'm definitely the type to always win if Mad Max rules are how we're going by in society. (I also play dirty and cheat.)

[DonkeyDan]

I don't feel there was anything honourable or manly about anything he did, he acted like a child in a playground who couldn't control his emotions. To get up and hit someone for a misjudged joke in poor taste is undefendable, a violent response to that was way over the top. I like Will Smith, ok he's a bit of a dick these days but he should be charged for that, if only to demonstrate to the younger generations that there are consequences for your actions. What he did was a terrible message to kids, and there is zero excuse for it.

[HighlyVolatile]

Admittedly I'm a bit old school in my thoughts but there's a fairly simple and established line for fighting words according to this code of conduct (not by law, but by old school code of conduct), and the prime example is insulting another man's wife. But if such a man sought to ruin the other man's reputation (cancel culture) rather than challenge him directly and honorably, then I would consider that immoral. Yet I think standing up to protect the wife is moral and good.

And I'd defend Chris Rock's wife to insult men's wives as part of his routine, but also the right of men to stand up there and smack him. :-D Also I wouldn't be surprised if Will Smith and Chris Rock end up smoothing things out and possibly even becoming buddies over this. At least I think there's more of a chance than for the indirect and canceling way.

>> @mcheetah Someone offends you, so you get to be violent to them?

No, absolutely not. Merely offending someone doesn't qualify as fighting words in my book. I see it as part of our responsibility to develop a thick skin such that we don't end up fighting over every little insult.

Well, lemme put it this way. If there are no repercussions whatsoever to insulting another man's wife to his face, then I should be able to go around insulting men's wives left and right, yes? I could see one man say, "Your wife is so fat!" To another, "Your wife is ugly!" To another, "You must have the lowest standards to marry such a woman!" If I do it in a funny way, other people might even cheer.

I don't think I should be able to do that. But I don't think this should be illegal either. I don't think this or anything else should make me a target of cancel culture. So I see this as a matter ideally solved by honorable disputes between two men which could include fighting.

[HighlyVolatile]

The problem I find with the cancel culture way of retaliation even though it's not illegal as with the case of slapping someone is that it's devoid of honor. It gangs up on people for offenses, and often for offenses that aren't even clearly established by any code of conduct as fighting words. It also often abandons truth in its gossiping way, taking things out of context and sometimes even outright working towards complete deception about the offense to recruit as many people to cancel as possible. It's a gossipy, backstabbing sort of way of retaliation.

And the damage it causes is often far, far, far greater than any mere slap to the face. It also makes it almost hopeless for the offended parties and the party perceived to have delivered the offense to smooth things out.

It always seemed backward to me at least that this gossipy way is considered civilized while a direct confrontation, like slapping, which is at least rooted in truth and honor, is considered barbaric. And I think, being fallible beings, if we see Will Smith's way of retaliation here to defend his wife as so barbaric and horrifying, then I think we're going to start seeing more and more of the backstabbing and gossipy way dominating our society.

[MCheetah]

"If there are no repercussions whatsoever to insulting another man's wife to his face, then I should be able to go around insulting men's wives left and right, yes?"

Yes, that's EXACTLY how it should go. It's called using your words. Curse out whoever you want. That's legal. When men fight over every little microaggression and non-problem, you get feminists using stupid words like "toxic masculinity." Also, when you go around starting fights over nothing (words alone), then it diminishes anything serious that might happen to them. If someone saying a tame GI Jane joke is enough to make you spill a man's blood in a bar or something, then what do you do if a man slaps your wife or child in front of you? Are they on the same level, or do you then have to literally murder him for that in order to be consistent?

Someone HITS your loved ones? Then yeah, f*ck him up. But someone SAYS something you don't like? You act like a grown up and respond back with your own words. You don't assault him like a Karen who's never been punched before.

Furthermore, this was all over a GI JANE JOKE. A tame one, at that. From a professional COMEDIAN. It's not like Rock said something actually malicious.

I get do get the whole "honorable brawl" thing and then you shake hands at the end. Maybe if it was the 80s, I'd agree with you. But this is 2022 and real men are a rarity nowadays. And Will Smith's literal-cuckold ass, is no real man, at all. Like I said, if I was Chris Rock, I would've f*cked Will Smith up. But I would've done so only after he tried to swing on me first.

[HighlyVolatile]

@MCheetah Well, my friend, I'm an 80s child, you know! But there's a two-way thing here. Chris Rock just got slapped. He was able to joke and smile after. I don't see any serious damage done. A slap is a challenge to something more as I see it, and Chris denied that challenge.

There might also be a cultural thing here. In Japan, we don't have feminist notions like "toxic masculinity". Women might still prize some of its components. It still pays to be that sort of 80s man and can have costs to fail to be one.

Insulting back might be the best way: a battle of words and wit. I've never been particularly good at that though. On this part:

>> [...] then what do you do if a man slaps your wife or child in front of you? Are they on the same level, or do you then have to literally murder him for that in order to be consistent?

If I understood this part correctly, yes, I actually think they're on the same level. The slap might not impose any serious harm to either of them as with words, so I don't want to murder him in either of those cases in retaliation, but I do think I should retaliate in some way. Well, I could insult him in both cases, but maybe I need more training in insulting people in interesting things. Things like shoving and yelling seem easier and don't require me to be so clever.

[HighlyVolatile]

* Well, I could insult him in both cases, but maybe I need more training in insulting people in interesting [/ways].

[MCheetah]

@HighlyVolatile
Well, maybe in Japan, you can get away with that cause the police don't care. But in the West, people sue each other over things like a slap, all the time. You can call it being a pussy or whatever, but they do. Not to mention, the prison time involved. You are right in that the US doesn't have such notions of "reputation" and "honor." But there are far more extremes. Some people might be rich preppy pussies and just threaten to sue you (and easily win) for such a physical attack. Others, like where I grew up, Philadelphia, they'd literally murder you for such a slap. And possibly your whole family too.
So maybe in Japan, they'd have a little slap fight and shake hands, in the end. But in the West, if you did what Will did, you're either getting sued or literally getting murdered (along with your whole family and pet dog) for doing something like that. Not to mention, prison time. None of those options are worth it. In addition to what I said in that it just makes a man look weak as hell. Easily manipulated by emotions. Like a woman.

Ironic that the Fresh Prince of Bel Air got in one little slap and then got scared and was told "You can't attack people for mocking Jada's hair."

[bones_20]

Completely wrong. Getting physical is generally not the way to go. I really like the guy, but seeing this made me feel sick and I look at him differently now.

[coachTanthony]

Yeah I get that!

[DownIndaDumpz]

Me too

[bones_20]

I get why some people see this differently. He didn’t like what was said about his wife and that’s fair enough.
But you can't just go around hitting people in the face every time they piss you off for making an inappropriate joke.
You’re a fucking adult in a professional setting. Act like it.
What happens if his wife makes an inappropriate joke about someone else and he slaps her in the face for it. Would they still see that as ok?
That’s just the angle I personally look at it from.

[ChefPapiChulo]

Yeah but was that the case? Did she do that?

[bones_20]

Did who do what?

[DaySpring]

Great point of view, although I know enough about Will to know he knows it is wrong. I was agreeing with you until you said what if Will Smith slaps his wife. It made think that that is what you really care about and not what Will actually did.

[bones_20]

No that’s not what I’m saying at all. Obviously I care and think it’s wrong as I stated.
I was just making a point of the people saying it’s ok, if he decides to lose his cool again and hit her, they won’t be thinking the same way about it.

[ChefPapiChulo]

thats called a slippery slope.

[bones_20]

It’s called looking at the bigger picture and understanding it’s not ok. In either situation.

[ChefPapiChulo]

you're creating a situation thats just not what happened. thats crazy.

[bones_20]

Again, not what I’m saying or doing.

[ChefPapiChulo]

you're creating an "angle" that didn't even happen. You can't even say that. Context matters lmao.

[bones_20]

Jumping straight to being physical is the context here and it’s wrong.
If you disagree with that, then that’s your choice.

[ChefPapiChulo]

holy fuck its like arguing with someone that has 80IQ.

[bones_20]

Yeah ok.
Feel free to disinvolve yourself and move along.

[DaySpring]

Okay I apologize I jump to the conclusion that it was turning into a gender thing. If one situation is wrong then the other is also wrong. Yeah you are right, obviously, it was unacceptable. Although, he has never done this before now therefore it isn't "everytime"

Point is, I think we all make mistakes and do stuff but it doesn't reflect who we are 99% of the time, at least for some of us. Show me a good person and I'll show you a bad one. There is someone we've all hurt in some manner. If it is done privately, verbally, or cyberly, it is just as bad as physically and publicly. That sticks and stones stuff was created to help people not be hurt because words do hurt.

[metaldragon563]

They both were in the wrong, but Will shouldn't have acted like an angry 12 year old. Even if someone says something that upsets you, violence and anger is never the solution, let it be. I totally respect Chris Rock. The fact that he's not even pressing charges or got physical back shows the maturity level he has. Will needs to grow up. People get made fun of all the time especially about other people. The minute you get upset like a teenager the more you'll make yourself look like a fool. Jada is another case. She literally doesn't even give a fuck about anything and always looks like it. She made him do that.

[Bricealan]

I agree with you, and you are 'spot' on !!!

[t_time]

If I were them I would have just walked out. I think will Smith went a little overboard but I understand why he slap him
I have a lot of clients with alopecia and I know how devastating it can be for them. that was a very insensitive joke. When I watched the footage I felt so sad for her.

[Imsmurter1]

Can you explain the joke it’s lost on me.

[t_time]

He said il see you in g. i Jane 2. He was talking about her shaved head. Because in the 1st one demmi Moore has her head completely shaved. It was very insensitive to say that because alopecia is a hair loss illness. Their hair falls out due to many factors including stress. It comes out randomly in huge chunks. Leaving bald patches all over the head. A lot of clients of mine feel like they have no choice but to shave their head because it's just too much hair falling out every single day. Most of my clients are really struggling emotionally with this. I understand how embarrassing it is for them. And the struggles that they have to go through. I've had people cry in my chair about it. Men and women. So I can see very clearly how it might have affected Will Smith's wife. My heart broke for her when I heard him say that joke about her. The joke would have been okay if she didn't have alopecia and she just decided to shave her head. That's one thing but he was going after her shaved head due to an illness. And I find that just not right

[t_time]

And I couldn't imagine being in the public eye with this condition. I've seen people and talk to people with the condition and it's hard enough to go through not being in the public eye

[Imsmurter1]

I understood the joke now but I think the reaction was way off. I thought maybe she had cancer or something. She’s just losing hair many people lose hair it’s not something to slap someone over. I lose hair too but I’m not writing a blog about it wow. Well anyways

[t_time]

Alopecia is different though. It's a condition. It's more than just slow hair loss. It falls out in huge chuncks randomly. For woman especially it it can be devastating.

[t_time]

I would have been that upset too. But I would have went about it in a different way than to slap the guy

[t_time]

If you look up photos you will see what I mean

[Imsmurter1]

I know it’s traumatic but for many guys it’s sad to lose hair too it’s normal in my opinion not reason enough to slap someone. He wasn’t even insulting her just making a lame joke about being the star of a bald movie or something. Like such a tame joke getting butt hurt and violent on national tv for such small stuff sheesh… that jada woman at least…

[Screenwriter]

All kinds of wrong!

I understand that Rock had made several previous jokes about poor little Jada and her alopecia (sp) issues, but his public tirade and physical assault were so far over the line, I was wondering what had snapped with Smith!

Also heard that the two of them were good and longtime friends. Now maybe Rock's teasing, and that IS his way to do comedy, and that IS his personality, grated on Pinkett. I saw the expression on her face after the comment and before Smith hit Rock. She was seething mad. And Smith's F bombs after the punch sounded like something out of high school!

Everybody seems to be having breakdowns. Maybe Smith is on Kanye's bus. I hope everybody sees their therapists and takes their medications. Appears many are NOT!

[wheresmrcunnunglis]

Ugh, just watch this video so that those who feel "its just a joke" can be informed of the severity of spewing such an insensitive joke. Making fun of an illness one is going through and has shared multiple times WITH TEARS that it is something that deeply affects them is cruel and to me, akin to verbal assault. So homeboy received the consequence of being physically assaulted. "Say stupid ish, win stupid prizes."

https://www.youtube.com/embed/VMy0UIFJatU

[Chthou95]

Chris Rock didn't tell that joke based on her illness though. She has a buzz cut and the G. i jane joke made sense. Will smith is a simp for only being offended once he saw his wife looked upset and then assaults the guy

[wheresmrcunnunglis]

@Chthou95 Agreed, when I first watched the clip I laughed at the joke and did not think anything of it. That is until I did research on it and realized I should not have laughed. I dont know if Chris Rock was unaware. Probably should have done his research prior to hosting the event though to know too. Since I got educated on it in a matter of minutes of googling. "' Jada Pinket and her short hair" so I wonder what Chris Rock's reason for this lack of information is?

Will Smith should not have gone that far and simply displayed his disapproval and talked to the host during the commercial or even went up there to whisper in his ear to force him to apologize. That, I feel, would have been way better than smacking Chris Rock, thus emasculating him.

[Imsmurter1]

Can you explain the context for me please? All i know is his wife had a disease but what is GI Jane? What is all the joke I don’t know

[wheresmrcunnunglis]

@Imsmurter1 sure can! So GI Jane is movie starring Demi Moore which is iconic due to her shaving her head for it and if you google link here " www.amazon.com/G-I-Jane-Demi-Moore/dp/1558908315 "

So the joke made towards Jada Pinkett was a result of her looking like the character depicted in that movie as well. The video I listed in my original video explains it in full though so definitely try to at least skim through it if you can

[Imsmurter1]

Ok thanks I understand it now. I think slapping is uncalled for. It’s not op and that it’s a disease but it’s just losing hair it’s not like cancer. Many people lose hair even me. Not something worth slapping someone over I think.

[hahahmm]

If Will wishes to be a traditional man then it was wrong because it was an obvious joke told at an event where jokes are expected by a comedian. A traditional man should have control of his actions. That doesn't mean that there's never a time when violence is okay. If Chris had walked over to Will & Jada and with a serious face threatened to immediately harm her on the spot, Will would be within his rights to break the guy's skull open & most juries & judges would agree. Most people are smart enough not to make that kind of threat tho.

It's also been noted that Will himself thought the joke was funny as he was seen laughing. Only after Jada instructed him to 'go get him' did Will act. That's a symptom of Will being a simp who does things simply because his woman orders him to.

[hahahmm]

Plus he broke his word which he had given to the Academy not to do violence at an event/to other members. Keeping your word is important... if you want to be a real man. For those who say it's an unreasonable promise, well then he shouldn't have made a promise he can't keep.

[Mika1999]

I'm more concerned about how the eorlds reacting to it, its considered funny, nothing funny about violence, if that was a female being hit the world would be disgusted by it, hypocrites everywhere.

Obviously not everyone but it seems like a very high percentage of the world think its funny, I wonder what these exact people reaction would be if it was a femsle being hit?

Will should of said what he did say out loud to Chris and then expressed his problem with chris behind closed does verbally

[TheorionMage]

For the sake to TRYING to appear 'clever'... all Chris Rock did was to use a Bully's tactic to take a 'cheap shot' at Jadah Pinkett Smith's DISABILITY for a cheap laugh at her expense! She has NO control over her circumstances but to bear it with poise and graciousness... ironic that ALL involved, are the same ethnicity (over which they ALSO have no control) who go 'ape shit' when someone OTHER THAN their ethnicity, dares to snidely use the 'n' word as being 'racially bigoted and insensitive.'

Why is Jadah OR her husband... expected to endure 'disability insensitivity' with good grace?

Frankly, Will would have been with in his husband-ly right to deck Cris Rock, then & there PUBLICLY.
Everyone KNEW Don Rickles was PLAYING an acerbic asshole; Rock went for a 'cheap shot' picking upon her disability~ >: (

[ChrisMaster69]

It’s not the first time he’s had a pop at will smith and also a few other people had had a pop at Smith as well.

Those who do not think it justified, what if he had said something about his daughter?

Or if it was a white comedian had took piss out of his wife n daughters skin colour?

Historically comedians get away with some horrendous jokes, however they are not usually targeted like that in the audience.

This may reduce the number of comedians verbally assaulting those who normally can’t fight back

[KennethNoisewater]

doesn't matter how you split it. When it comes down to it, Will Smith is a bitch for doing it. Will and Jada marriage is already a joke. Lot worse things could have been said. It's pretty obvious Chris Rock didn't know about her disease. To make the whole situation more awkward, Will Smith was laughing at the jokes. Jada was not. That's how and when it got weird. He lost it. He has to realize he is just a Cuck. She wears the pants and he is a Cuck. No Respect for Will Smith. Huge props to Mr. Rock. He took it like a champ. In a shocked state he tries to pull out a joke about it. Top notch.

[qwert1234]

While I do not agree it's a bad joke - for the sake of argument, let's say it is...
A bad joke is still, a joke. If this was Ricky Gervais, good luck with your feelings..

And Will laughed about it in the beginning... Then got simpy to his wife and acted like a white knight.
He should've just stood up, approached Jada and tell her that she's the most beautiful thing in the world no matter what - and to lighten the mood, jokingly ask her "can I be in the movie? I need money..." or something.

[invalid1]

I like Chris so much, I am also a fan of Will Smith.. look! Given Jada's desease, Chris shouldn't have made the joke, he fell here. But in the same time, Will Smith showed insecurity, and was so agitated. in which we had a lot of question marks with what will be his reaction if someone other than Chris did the Joke.

what happened was unfortunate.

[Drumlin2001]

If it had been Sarah Silverman telling that same joke, would he have gone up and slapped her? How would that have been seen by the public if he had?
The joke probably went too far, but dosen't excuse his actions.

[MCheetah]

The joke wasn't even that bad. In any case, who cares? What kind of pussy man gets offended by a joke from a comedian when he's been in Hollywood for 30 years? Oh, right... Never mind.

[coachTanthony]

@drumlin2001The joke was in bad taste for sure. I am finding out today not too many people even knew she had a hair loss disease.

[SinceYouAsked]

You mess with a man's wife and you gotta be ready for whatever you get. Smith was defending his wife, who was being made the butt of a joke publicly. To add insult to injury, she was being made fun of because of a disease over which she has no control. I have no problem with what Smith did whatsoever. Rock was fortunate it was an open hand. If it had been me, it would have been a fist and Rock would have been lying on the floor.
Believe it or not, I tend to be fairly liberal. And I generally don't believe in initiating violence. But I don't buy this zero tolerance for any kind of physical violence for any reason. Sometimes, it is justified. If you mess with my family, you better run. I have a 4 year old granddaughter and a 1 1/2 year old grandson. Hurt either one of them and there is no punishment on this earth that will deter me from coming after you.

[Anonymous]

well, if it wasn't all staged, will was definitely wrong.
jada has alopecia - as far as i know it's not serious and it is quite literally just hair loss, very normal for someone her age. if she didn't like the joke, that's perfectly fine. it was certainly nothing to warrant a slap right across the face - and even worse, it wasn't anything to warrant getting shouted at so rudely the way will yelled at chris.
chris rock handled it like a champ, getting everything back on track and laughing about it.

[Imsmurter1]

exactly many people lose hair