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Will Smith was 100% wrong and if anyone disagrees with me, I get to slap them in the face, cause that's how that works, right?
If he's justified in attacking Chris Rock - A COMEDIAN - for making a joke about his wife who cheated on him, doesn't respect him, and called HIM the "disappointment" in front of all her feminist friends, then I'm more than justified in beating him with a baseball bat for making After Earth, I guess. And YouTube Rewind 2018. And Gemini Man. And that "serious" Fresh Prince of Bel Air reboot.
You see, if we can just go around assaulting people because we simply feel like it, then it's all fair game! Especially when the man thinking he can attack people is a literal cuckold who's wife dogged HIM out for HER cheating on him! And NOW he thinks he gets to act like a man? I'm sorry, but Chris Rock should've f*cked him up. Yes, despite how small and skinny Chris Rock is. Will Smith is beyond an embarrassment, nowadays.
Take a look at this video above. THIS is the woman he wants to "defend" and thinks he can justify getting a f*cking ass-whupping from a real man, to do it for. If he did this to someone like, Joe Rogan (also a former comedian) or hell, ANY athlete, Will Smith would've gotten humiliated yet AGAIN in front of millions of people when the retaliation happened and he curled up in a fetal ball on the floor to shield himself.
Will Smith is such a hollow shell of a man now. And I think it's mostly due to Jada. She sucked the soul out of him. And THIS is who he wants to get f*cked up in a brawl, or sued into oblivion over?
Also, what kind of bitch-made man slaps another man? Unless you're Rick James or about to duel by pistols at noon. "First of all, you don't slap a man. They'd have a gun fight after that!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FmYmdGRONI
For starters, Chris Rock is no stranger to Will & Jada, they know each other very well as friends and worked with each other plus Chris Rock met know harm when he told the G. I Jane joke towards Jada. Will Smith also laughed when Chris told the Joke until he realized that his wife Jada rolled up her eyes in then he lost it by going up on stage and Slapping his Friend on National television in then repeatedly yelling at Chris by saying KEEP MY WIFE OUT YOUR F×××××× MOUTH! . Will & Jada already knows that when you're celebrity, you're going to be talked about and joked about plus they already know that is what Chris Rock does. Its true that Jada have been suffering from hair loss plus they're rumors that is stating that Chris did not know but that doesn't excuse Will Smith for his bad behavior. This is the first time this ever happened at the Oscars, it created other problems for tv networks around the globe, it was extremely embarrassing, uncomfortable for fans, and celebrities according to their statements. It's no big secret that the Smith family needs professional help especially what have happened between Will & Jada almost breaking up because of infidelity and their son Jaden issues. The Oscars have already confirmed that they're going to seek punishment on Will Smith on April 18 and from this incident, We could learn a lot from this. In my opinion, the Oscars, Grammy's, Espy's, Music Awards, and etc should have more safety measures of policies for celebrities because most them are going through some serious issues, Anybody that is hosting or presenting an award or announcing should have a fine line on what to say and what not to say to keep it professional with caution. Furthermore award shows should research more to be aware on what's going with celebrities and events around the world to not comment, insult or cracking jokes that can cause incidents like this.
Honestly I don't like that much Jada but making fun of her illness is so far away from being funny. My best friend friend is a major in psychology and she searched a subject for a paper about a psychotic break and we both thought of Britney in 2007. We found out that women associate hair with a part of their being and touching hair can be seen as intimate. When women have a breakdown they often do something radical to their hair like cut them or dye them or in the case of Britney shaving them. And when we connected both of our brains we realized that unfortunately the Nazis understood that by saving the head of their prisoners right after they arrived. So it must be a truly terrible sensation to not have the control of what people associate with womanhood and a part of yourself. However I don't think that Will should have slapped Chris because violence isn't the answer and it will probably follow him for a long time just after winning the prize of a lifetime of work. Don't forget that he didn't have the perfect childhood and became famous due to his talent, and that he made a family of his own and even his wife betrayed him by having an affair which led up to him being a meme when oh shocking he showed weakness and cried. To add to this horrific affair Chris Rock isn't someone that I would describe has funny. Far from it. I'm not American and don't know all of the comedian that you have but after seeing this I watched some of his performances and not even a smile came. He isn't funny, the "joke" was of poor taste and Will shouldn't have slapped him. But in the end we mustn't forget that even though we admire these people they are human and sometimes get their emotions get the better of themselves.
This wasn’t even insulting to Jada. Chris made an observation that she had short hair now and commented about it in a very tame joke. you could tell that joke to young children. This was not an attack whatsoever. But what will did is and he should be embarrassed and ashamed since he always is advocating peace and love. For such a minuscule quote to set him off in such an aggressive manner was very hypocritical. Chris rock was the bigger man in that situation for not hitting him back. Talk about embarrassing. He just got SLAPPED by another man on a very public stage in front all his peers and, just had to continue the show. No one knew about her alopecia till after this happened. Hollywood has become a disgrace. These people think they are so important and they just aren’t. But since people like them in a movie where they are acting…(meaning not themselves)…all their fans just advocate anything they do ever. It’s gross. . I lost a lot of respect for Will Smith seeng this happen. I bet his mom was soooooooooo proud watching from her knitting club. (Sarcasm)
Believe me i understand wanting to defend your wife but Chris didn’t hit her didn’t call her a bad name or anything of the sort. This was unwarranted. Anyone advocating or defending this is what’s wrong with America today. Well one of the things.
I know that joke was so tame not slap worthy at all!
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The joke was in bad taste given her disease, otherwise it would have been fine. And while what Will did was also wrong, most men would understandably be upset too if their partner had an illness and someone made a joke at her expense about it.
Agreed.
So, I don’t think he did think it was funny.
He probably just laughed because it was the normal thing to do, but didn’t mean a cent of that laugh.
There are situations I’ve been in with people who didn’t like me, perhaps even hated me, and I’ve laughed or smiled at things they’ve said that were meant to be a jab at me, but with a humorous mask to pretend it was just to be funny.
I laughed and smiled but didn’t mean an ounce of it.
They’re both men
That’s his wife.
His love and family.
Don’t talk shit about another man’s family.
Not everyone is from soft places and upbringings where you can say and do what you want without consequences.
Be mutually respectful.
Did you see the video? He was genuinely laughing and Jada was PISSED then it cut away and then Will walked up. I doubt any normal person would go from laughing to fit in with the crowd to enough anger to go assault somebody on live television right before receiving an award. He thought it was funny and Jada didn’t do he went to “protect her” and made an ass of himself
So, I didn’t watch anything lmfao.
I’m just saying in general.
Respect
@anylolone Her 'look' was because of her disease. It caused her to lose her hair.
1. Almost nobody on earth even knew about her disease.
2. I saw a pic of her showing off her diseased spot... maybe the size of a penny on her scalp. So small you would never notice it when she lets her hair grow out.
3. She's been shaving her hair short for like 25-30 years. No way did it have anything to do with her disease. See point #2
4. Think about point #3 when you hear Chris's joke. He didn't know anything about her 'poor me' disease either.
@SinceYouAsked Doesn't look like it.
The hair stubs seem to be all there.
It was a lame joke but not worth violence plus profanity. Will’s reaction was barbaric in my opinion.
@Imsmurter1 Barbaric? I think that's a bit of an overreaction. Barbaric would have been serious physical harm. All he did was bitch-slap him. I got worse than that from my dad for failing to do what he told me to do when he told me to do it. Way worse. People are so 'sensitive' today.
@SinceYouAsked I’d say your dad was barbaric too. Ok maybe barbaric is not the best word but it’s definitely not the civil/stately way to do things especially not at a formal event like the Oscars on national TV.
@Imsmurter1 That's just the way things were back then. They had corporal punishment in school too. And you didn't go home and complain to your folks, if you were punished at school, because you'd get a worse whipping at home. Quite honestly, I sometimes think the world would be a little better if we didn't baby kids so much and if they knew there were consequences to their actions.
@SinceYouAsked It's barbaric with serious physical harm or not.
Not much different than him hitting jada because she embarrassed him.
@anylolone If you go with the definition being "lacking culture or refinement", I guess. I usually think of the other definition: "mercilessly harsh or cruel". So, was it lacking refinement? Yes. Was it mercilessly harsh or cruel? No.
@SinceYouAsked No, no, I mean "not civilized" "acting uncivilly".
Which would be weird for a multi millionaire actor if we didn't knew better.
I think it was wrong in so many different ways
it was more wrong than it was right... there's only one argument for him doing the right thing "he was defending his wife" however... as another celebrity pointed it out very well
if it had been The Rock, or Floyd Mayweather or any other famous person known for having violent tendencies and would have fought back Will Smith, most likely... would have not done the same thing to them, but it was Chris Rock...
and if this had happened on the streets, or outside a club or a place in which many others could have gotten involved for example a parking lot where all of the people who travel with Chris Rock had been around to intervene, Will Smith, most likely, would have not done the same thing... but he did it because it was the live stage of the Oscars...
he knows that what he did was wrong in so many ways and in so many levels, he lost control and he messed up... unfortunately, his ego got the best of him and it got him to do something so stupid like this
there are better ways and smarter ways to handle these things and he could have done that very well, if he had not lost control, and the best one... but who knows, I don't know what else he had going in his mind and his life because one thing it was absolutely clear Will Smith knows very well Chris Rock is just a comedian and he also knows very well that he's not a mean spirited comedian, he does pushes the boundaries yes, all the time... and with pretty much everyone and about everything, that's why Will Smith laughed at first and then later, he did what he did... for other reasons and not just the joke
if we are not consistent then we are making less sense... and Will Smith's actions were just senseless, those of a fool
having not seen the situation. It´s not a discussion of freedom of speech but of manners and respect for people you either have or you don´t. I think it´s deeply disrespectful towards a person if you make jokes about their diseases no matter who you are. It´s not an excuse that he has a comedian, there are about a 100 people and you make fun the only one that is fighting with a disease. Please tell me Chris Rock is so unknown in celebrity circle that he just knows Will and Jada Smith and therefore couldn´t make a joke about someone else. THAT would be a good excuse.
There are people taking their lifes because the consequences of that disease. Who knows how well she´s handling her situation?
I think WIll over-reacted and he should have done that in another moment and then probably in another way.
But I understand that he wanted to stand up for his wife as it should.
I therefore would say I understand Will Smith apologising to everyone EXCEPT Chris Rock because there are aspects you shouldn´t make fun of.
It seems like a pretty fake and planned thing. Will Smith is a great natural actor and the Oscars have been on the decline for years, you need something to talk about the award. Therefore, it was probably agreed.
I analyze the thing for what it is. The moment "a joke (horrendous imho) I respond with a slap" does nothing but legitimize the slap as a response to the word. It is a thing of a huge gravity. Because it gives reason to those we later call "monsters" when they give us a slap, when violence touches us closely. When we talk about free speech, we are referring to this in particular. Smith's is an assault on a person who is, by the way, paid to tease you.
If it wasn't planned and there was no contract to do it. Furthermore, he should be prosecuted and convicted of assault. Since the thing was broadcast worldwide and the aggression is obvious. As far as I'm concerned, Smith should lose the Oscar he won and should no longer be cast.
Furthermore, the justification that Smith gives to the thing is the same as that given by those who beat up his wife. I did it for love, love makes you do crazy things etc...
The thing in the case seems to me the classic Sicilian mafia behavior, he violated my wife's honor so he has to be beaten in public.
I go with right and dead right. People on here have tried to give me more context to this that I wasn't aware of but I think this is a face-value thing. That is right as I see if we go by honor. Wisdom, maybe not so much, but definitely as far as honor. It'd be even better though if Chris Rock was 7-feet tall with enormous muscles and Will Smith had to reach up to slap him. That would be extremely honorable.
So it's okay to assault people for words that they say? He's lucky he wasn't arrested.
Too much wisdom is boring anyway. I like the notion of fighting words between men. If a man insults another man's wife in front of his face over something that bothers her deeply, those are fighting words. Life should be fun.
I think he should have been arrested but should have done it anyway. As for assaulting people for what they say, yes, as long as we do it directly and with honor. Not this backstabbing, lying, cheating, cancel culture stuff. That is completely devoid of honor and fun.
Okay thanks for the comments man.
Cheers!
I am a little bit of a barbarian in my thinking, admittedly. Sometimes I think I was born in the wrong time period. But I think fighting, as long as it is honorable and capable of showing mercy, can be a tool for conflict resolution. The ideal scenario as I see it is two men getting into an honorable fight, not to the death, and the winner helps the loser back to his feet and works things out over beers.
If we're comparing the worst-case scenarios, I at least think this is more productive than the indirect way of whispering behind each other's backs and basically using the metaphorical poison as a weapon rather than the directness of the fist. Ideally we use neither one of these tools, but I think the fist is at least better than poison.
I'm probably gonna make some enemies here saying this but with the commentators saying "simp" this or "cuck" that about him for this action taken at face value of defending his honor and his wife's honor, not whatever other things, I think they are as women. Flinging words around to tarnish a man behind his back is a woman's way. That is not an honorable man's way, and that's the impression I get living in today's society: I'm surrounded by women, including ones with dicks.
It was intended to be an insult tho. He was jus tryna lighten the mood and be jokey and something stupid slipped out.. comedians make mistakes. Will needs to settle down
Wasn't intended*
@DownIndaDumpz I might put it like a foolishness spectrum. :-D I'm in favor of a certain level of foolishness and pride in a man that we might excuse as "honor".
Take this notion I argued with my teachers and parents about until I was turning blue in the face. They said if someone picks a fight with us, we should run away and tell an adult. That seemed so wrong to me even in kindergarten, and maybe all I had was pride back then.
But the way I try to rationalize it is that we're creatures of habit. We get into the habit of letting these things slide, or running away, and maybe it's wise in some situations to let it slide, and wise in some situations to run away. But we're creatures of habits. The next time something much more important might be on the line, as the safety of our wives and children, and our habits might catch us to us then as to whether we defend them or abandon them.
So I like developing some foolish habits that might become noble ones in the right circumstances, and that's where I like the notion of fighting words and lines that two men should never cross with each other. Because it might be harmless in one case, like this one, but not in the other.
@HighlyVolatile
You wrote a MyTake about Cancel Culture, but how is this not in the same league as Cancel Culture.
It's okay to hurt people due to jokes? It's okay to do whatever you want to people because you "got offended" That's literally the same line of thinking as Cancel Culture.
Believe me; if I lived in a society that condoned "do what you feel like" if you get offended, I'd be out here Purgin' motherf*ckers. Riding around with a mini-gun, shooting up places like I'm part of ISIS or something. Is that really the society 41% of people on here are advocating for?
Someone offends you, so you get to be violent to them? I'm just making sure, cause I don't have a problem with that, either way. But I'm definitely the type to always win if Mad Max rules are how we're going by in society. (I also play dirty and cheat.)
I don't feel there was anything honourable or manly about anything he did, he acted like a child in a playground who couldn't control his emotions. To get up and hit someone for a misjudged joke in poor taste is undefendable, a violent response to that was way over the top. I like Will Smith, ok he's a bit of a dick these days but he should be charged for that, if only to demonstrate to the younger generations that there are consequences for your actions. What he did was a terrible message to kids, and there is zero excuse for it.
Admittedly I'm a bit old school in my thoughts but there's a fairly simple and established line for fighting words according to this code of conduct (not by law, but by old school code of conduct), and the prime example is insulting another man's wife. But if such a man sought to ruin the other man's reputation (cancel culture) rather than challenge him directly and honorably, then I would consider that immoral. Yet I think standing up to protect the wife is moral and good.
And I'd defend Chris Rock's wife to insult men's wives as part of his routine, but also the right of men to stand up there and smack him. :-D Also I wouldn't be surprised if Will Smith and Chris Rock end up smoothing things out and possibly even becoming buddies over this. At least I think there's more of a chance than for the indirect and canceling way.
>> @mcheetah Someone offends you, so you get to be violent to them?
No, absolutely not. Merely offending someone doesn't qualify as fighting words in my book. I see it as part of our responsibility to develop a thick skin such that we don't end up fighting over every little insult.
Well, lemme put it this way. If there are no repercussions whatsoever to insulting another man's wife to his face, then I should be able to go around insulting men's wives left and right, yes? I could see one man say, "Your wife is so fat!" To another, "Your wife is ugly!" To another, "You must have the lowest standards to marry such a woman!" If I do it in a funny way, other people might even cheer.
I don't think I should be able to do that. But I don't think this should be illegal either. I don't think this or anything else should make me a target of cancel culture. So I see this as a matter ideally solved by honorable disputes between two men which could include fighting.
The problem I find with the cancel culture way of retaliation even though it's not illegal as with the case of slapping someone is that it's devoid of honor. It gangs up on people for offenses, and often for offenses that aren't even clearly established by any code of conduct as fighting words. It also often abandons truth in its gossiping way, taking things out of context and sometimes even outright working towards complete deception about the offense to recruit as many people to cancel as possible. It's a gossipy, backstabbing sort of way of retaliation.
And the damage it causes is often far, far, far greater than any mere slap to the face. It also makes it almost hopeless for the offended parties and the party perceived to have delivered the offense to smooth things out.
It always seemed backward to me at least that this gossipy way is considered civilized while a direct confrontation, like slapping, which is at least rooted in truth and honor, is considered barbaric. And I think, being fallible beings, if we see Will Smith's way of retaliation here to defend his wife as so barbaric and horrifying, then I think we're going to start seeing more and more of the backstabbing and gossipy way dominating our society.
"If there are no repercussions whatsoever to insulting another man's wife to his face, then I should be able to go around insulting men's wives left and right, yes?"
Yes, that's EXACTLY how it should go. It's called using your words. Curse out whoever you want. That's legal. When men fight over every little microaggression and non-problem, you get feminists using stupid words like "toxic masculinity." Also, when you go around starting fights over nothing (words alone), then it diminishes anything serious that might happen to them. If someone saying a tame GI Jane joke is enough to make you spill a man's blood in a bar or something, then what do you do if a man slaps your wife or child in front of you? Are they on the same level, or do you then have to literally murder him for that in order to be consistent?
Someone HITS your loved ones? Then yeah, f*ck him up. But someone SAYS something you don't like? You act like a grown up and respond back with your own words. You don't assault him like a Karen who's never been punched before.
Furthermore, this was all over a GI JANE JOKE. A tame one, at that. From a professional COMEDIAN. It's not like Rock said something actually malicious.
I get do get the whole "honorable brawl" thing and then you shake hands at the end. Maybe if it was the 80s, I'd agree with you. But this is 2022 and real men are a rarity nowadays. And Will Smith's literal-cuckold ass, is no real man, at all. Like I said, if I was Chris Rock, I would've f*cked Will Smith up. But I would've done so only after he tried to swing on me first.
@MCheetah Well, my friend, I'm an 80s child, you know! But there's a two-way thing here. Chris Rock just got slapped. He was able to joke and smile after. I don't see any serious damage done. A slap is a challenge to something more as I see it, and Chris denied that challenge.
There might also be a cultural thing here. In Japan, we don't have feminist notions like "toxic masculinity". Women might still prize some of its components. It still pays to be that sort of 80s man and can have costs to fail to be one.
Insulting back might be the best way: a battle of words and wit. I've never been particularly good at that though. On this part:
>> [...] then what do you do if a man slaps your wife or child in front of you? Are they on the same level, or do you then have to literally murder him for that in order to be consistent?
If I understood this part correctly, yes, I actually think they're on the same level. The slap might not impose any serious harm to either of them as with words, so I don't want to murder him in either of those cases in retaliation, but I do think I should retaliate in some way. Well, I could insult him in both cases, but maybe I need more training in insulting people in interesting things. Things like shoving and yelling seem easier and don't require me to be so clever.
* Well, I could insult him in both cases, but maybe I need more training in insulting people in interesting [/ways].
@HighlyVolatile
Well, maybe in Japan, you can get away with that cause the police don't care. But in the West, people sue each other over things like a slap, all the time. You can call it being a pussy or whatever, but they do. Not to mention, the prison time involved. You are right in that the US doesn't have such notions of "reputation" and "honor." But there are far more extremes. Some people might be rich preppy pussies and just threaten to sue you (and easily win) for such a physical attack. Others, like where I grew up, Philadelphia, they'd literally murder you for such a slap. And possibly your whole family too.
So maybe in Japan, they'd have a little slap fight and shake hands, in the end. But in the West, if you did what Will did, you're either getting sued or literally getting murdered (along with your whole family and pet dog) for doing something like that. Not to mention, prison time. None of those options are worth it. In addition to what I said in that it just makes a man look weak as hell. Easily manipulated by emotions. Like a woman.
Ironic that the Fresh Prince of Bel Air got in one little slap and then got scared and was told "You can't attack people for mocking Jada's hair."
Completely wrong. Getting physical is generally not the way to go. I really like the guy, but seeing this made me feel sick and I look at him differently now.
Yeah I get that!
Me too
I get why some people see this differently. He didn’t like what was said about his wife and that’s fair enough.
But you can't just go around hitting people in the face every time they piss you off for making an inappropriate joke.
You’re a fucking adult in a professional setting. Act like it.
What happens if his wife makes an inappropriate joke about someone else and he slaps her in the face for it. Would they still see that as ok?
That’s just the angle I personally look at it from.
Yeah but was that the case? Did she do that?
thats called a slippery slope.
you're creating a situation thats just not what happened. thats crazy.
you're creating an "angle" that didn't even happen. You can't even say that. Context matters lmao.
holy fuck its like arguing with someone that has 80IQ.
Okay I apologize I jump to the conclusion that it was turning into a gender thing. If one situation is wrong then the other is also wrong. Yeah you are right, obviously, it was unacceptable. Although, he has never done this before now therefore it isn't "everytime"
Point is, I think we all make mistakes and do stuff but it doesn't reflect who we are 99% of the time, at least for some of us. Show me a good person and I'll show you a bad one. There is someone we've all hurt in some manner. If it is done privately, verbally, or cyberly, it is just as bad as physically and publicly. That sticks and stones stuff was created to help people not be hurt because words do hurt.
They both were in the wrong, but Will shouldn't have acted like an angry 12 year old. Even if someone says something that upsets you, violence and anger is never the solution, let it be. I totally respect Chris Rock. The fact that he's not even pressing charges or got physical back shows the maturity level he has. Will needs to grow up. People get made fun of all the time especially about other people. The minute you get upset like a teenager the more you'll make yourself look like a fool. Jada is another case. She literally doesn't even give a fuck about anything and always looks like it. She made him do that.
If I were them I would have just walked out. I think will Smith went a little overboard but I understand why he slap him
I have a lot of clients with alopecia and I know how devastating it can be for them. that was a very insensitive joke. When I watched the footage I felt so sad for her.
Can you explain the joke it’s lost on me.
He said il see you in g. i Jane 2. He was talking about her shaved head. Because in the 1st one demmi Moore has her head completely shaved. It was very insensitive to say that because alopecia is a hair loss illness. Their hair falls out due to many factors including stress. It comes out randomly in huge chunks. Leaving bald patches all over the head. A lot of clients of mine feel like they have no choice but to shave their head because it's just too much hair falling out every single day. Most of my clients are really struggling emotionally with this. I understand how embarrassing it is for them. And the struggles that they have to go through. I've had people cry in my chair about it. Men and women. So I can see very clearly how it might have affected Will Smith's wife. My heart broke for her when I heard him say that joke about her. The joke would have been okay if she didn't have alopecia and she just decided to shave her head. That's one thing but he was going after her shaved head due to an illness. And I find that just not right
I understood the joke now but I think the reaction was way off. I thought maybe she had cancer or something. She’s just losing hair many people lose hair it’s not something to slap someone over. I lose hair too but I’m not writing a blog about it wow. Well anyways
I know it’s traumatic but for many guys it’s sad to lose hair too it’s normal in my opinion not reason enough to slap someone. He wasn’t even insulting her just making a lame joke about being the star of a bald movie or something. Like such a tame joke getting butt hurt and violent on national tv for such small stuff sheesh… that jada woman at least…
All kinds of wrong!
I understand that Rock had made several previous jokes about poor little Jada and her alopecia (sp) issues, but his public tirade and physical assault were so far over the line, I was wondering what had snapped with Smith!
Also heard that the two of them were good and longtime friends. Now maybe Rock's teasing, and that IS his way to do comedy, and that IS his personality, grated on Pinkett. I saw the expression on her face after the comment and before Smith hit Rock. She was seething mad. And Smith's F bombs after the punch sounded like something out of high school!
Everybody seems to be having breakdowns. Maybe Smith is on Kanye's bus. I hope everybody sees their therapists and takes their medications. Appears many are NOT!
Ugh, just watch this video so that those who feel "its just a joke" can be informed of the severity of spewing such an insensitive joke. Making fun of an illness one is going through and has shared multiple times WITH TEARS that it is something that deeply affects them is cruel and to me, akin to verbal assault. So homeboy received the consequence of being physically assaulted. "Say stupid ish, win stupid prizes."
https://www.youtube.com/embed/VMy0UIFJatU @Chthou95 Agreed, when I first watched the clip I laughed at the joke and did not think anything of it. That is until I did research on it and realized I should not have laughed. I dont know if Chris Rock was unaware. Probably should have done his research prior to hosting the event though to know too. Since I got educated on it in a matter of minutes of googling. "' Jada Pinket and her short hair" so I wonder what Chris Rock's reason for this lack of information is?
Will Smith should not have gone that far and simply displayed his disapproval and talked to the host during the commercial or even went up there to whisper in his ear to force him to apologize. That, I feel, would have been way better than smacking Chris Rock, thus emasculating him.
Can you explain the context for me please? All i know is his wife had a disease but what is GI Jane? What is all the joke I don’t know
@Imsmurter1 sure can! So GI Jane is movie starring Demi Moore which is iconic due to her shaving her head for it and if you google link here " www.amazon.com/G-I-Jane-Demi-Moore/dp/1558908315 "
So the joke made towards Jada Pinkett was a result of her looking like the character depicted in that movie as well. The video I listed in my original video explains it in full though so definitely try to at least skim through it if you can
Ok thanks I understand it now. I think slapping is uncalled for. It’s not op and that it’s a disease but it’s just losing hair it’s not like cancer. Many people lose hair even me. Not something worth slapping someone over I think.
If Will wishes to be a traditional man then it was wrong because it was an obvious joke told at an event where jokes are expected by a comedian. A traditional man should have control of his actions. That doesn't mean that there's never a time when violence is okay. If Chris had walked over to Will & Jada and with a serious face threatened to immediately harm her on the spot, Will would be within his rights to break the guy's skull open & most juries & judges would agree. Most people are smart enough not to make that kind of threat tho.
It's also been noted that Will himself thought the joke was funny as he was seen laughing. Only after Jada instructed him to 'go get him' did Will act. That's a symptom of Will being a simp who does things simply because his woman orders him to.
I'm more concerned about how the eorlds reacting to it, its considered funny, nothing funny about violence, if that was a female being hit the world would be disgusted by it, hypocrites everywhere.
Obviously not everyone but it seems like a very high percentage of the world think its funny, I wonder what these exact people reaction would be if it was a femsle being hit?
Will should of said what he did say out loud to Chris and then expressed his problem with chris behind closed does verbally
For the sake to TRYING to appear 'clever'... all Chris Rock did was to use a Bully's tactic to take a 'cheap shot' at Jadah Pinkett Smith's DISABILITY for a cheap laugh at her expense! She has NO control over her circumstances but to bear it with poise and graciousness... ironic that ALL involved, are the same ethnicity (over which they ALSO have no control) who go 'ape shit' when someone OTHER THAN their ethnicity, dares to snidely use the 'n' word as being 'racially bigoted and insensitive.'
Why is Jadah OR her husband... expected to endure 'disability insensitivity' with good grace?
Frankly, Will would have been with in his husband-ly right to deck Cris Rock, then & there PUBLICLY.
Everyone KNEW Don Rickles was PLAYING an acerbic asshole; Rock went for a 'cheap shot' picking upon her disability~ >: (
It’s not the first time he’s had a pop at will smith and also a few other people had had a pop at Smith as well.
Those who do not think it justified, what if he had said something about his daughter?
Or if it was a white comedian had took piss out of his wife n daughters skin colour?
Historically comedians get away with some horrendous jokes, however they are not usually targeted like that in the audience.
This may reduce the number of comedians verbally assaulting those who normally can’t fight back
doesn't matter how you split it. When it comes down to it, Will Smith is a bitch for doing it. Will and Jada marriage is already a joke. Lot worse things could have been said. It's pretty obvious Chris Rock didn't know about her disease. To make the whole situation more awkward, Will Smith was laughing at the jokes. Jada was not. That's how and when it got weird. He lost it. He has to realize he is just a Cuck. She wears the pants and he is a Cuck. No Respect for Will Smith. Huge props to Mr. Rock. He took it like a champ. In a shocked state he tries to pull out a joke about it. Top notch.
While I do not agree it's a bad joke - for the sake of argument, let's say it is...
A bad joke is still, a joke. If this was Ricky Gervais, good luck with your feelings..
And Will laughed about it in the beginning... Then got simpy to his wife and acted like a white knight.
He should've just stood up, approached Jada and tell her that she's the most beautiful thing in the world no matter what - and to lighten the mood, jokingly ask her "can I be in the movie? I need money..." or something.
I like Chris so much, I am also a fan of Will Smith.. look! Given Jada's desease, Chris shouldn't have made the joke, he fell here. But in the same time, Will Smith showed insecurity, and was so agitated. in which we had a lot of question marks with what will be his reaction if someone other than Chris did the Joke.
what happened was unfortunate.
If it had been Sarah Silverman telling that same joke, would he have gone up and slapped her? How would that have been seen by the public if he had?
The joke probably went too far, but dosen't excuse his actions.
@drumlin2001The joke was in bad taste for sure. I am finding out today not too many people even knew she had a hair loss disease.
well, if it wasn't all staged, will was definitely wrong.
jada has alopecia - as far as i know it's not serious and it is quite literally just hair loss, very normal for someone her age. if she didn't like the joke, that's perfectly fine. it was certainly nothing to warrant a slap right across the face - and even worse, it wasn't anything to warrant getting shouted at so rudely the way will yelled at chris.
chris rock handled it like a champ, getting everything back on track and laughing about it.
exactly many people lose hair
You mess with a man's wife and you gotta be ready for whatever you get. Smith was defending his wife, who was being made the butt of a joke publicly. To add insult to injury, she was being made fun of because of a disease over which she has no control. I have no problem with what Smith did whatsoever. Rock was fortunate it was an open hand. If it had been me, it would have been a fist and Rock would have been lying on the floor.
Believe it or not, I tend to be fairly liberal. And I generally don't believe in initiating violence. But I don't buy this zero tolerance for any kind of physical violence for any reason. Sometimes, it is justified. If you mess with my family, you better run. I have a 4 year old granddaughter and a 1 1/2 year old grandson. Hurt either one of them and there is no punishment on this earth that will deter me from coming after you.
I haven't seen this scene and I tend to avoid both Oscars and cringe but from my own personal experience I can say that some people absolutely deserve to be slapped. It's this new sensitivity that makes cheeky people allow themselves to be rude and disrespectful towards others. In the past you'd think twice before insulting someone's wife in front of them because getting punched was 100% on the table.
I think roasting is cool only when all sides are cool with it and have the equsl chance of getting esch other back. This was not a roast of will smith, it was the oscars filled with improvised jokes on Rock's half. Famous or not, right or wrong, jokes under the expense of someone's family member will lead to violence.
Chris Rock knew the risks, took the risk and got slapped. Therefore he waa no victim, no innocent bystander. Will Smith resorting to violence, made more history than winning an oscar. He is now a meme.
Both are celebrities with millions of fans getting heated up over this. As of celebrities, they should not diss or slap each other so both did wrong.
I said “Yes” because people have gotten too comfortable with saying whatever they want and hurting whoever they want with NO consequences. He was Right to slap him because his wife is not shaving her head, but has a medical condition. He used his hand Not his fist so he was not trying to hurt him. Using the F-word made it ghetto. I can say “ghetto” because I am the color of my Avatar. He could have said, “Keep your mouth off my wife” without using the F-word. I hope what he did will make people think Twice before saying whatever they want to!
Right and I'm sure you're just an absolute saint.
No I am Not a Saint and have Never claim to be. What happened needed to be addressed and I would have done the same thing he did. Slapping him only affected the person that had done Wrong. Everyone heard the cussing!
He didn't do wrong.
That is what I am saying. To be honest I would Not have done what he did, but I am glad he did it. Chris threw the first Punch and what he said is worse than what Will did! It sounds like we agree?
Jada is a hoe. She deserves way worse
I Condemn violence and cussing, but what Will did was Not violence. He is calling it “violence” trying to say what he thinks people want to hear. Will “B _ t _ h Slapped” Chris, which is about humiliation Not harm. Chris humiliated Jada. That was the expression on her face. Will “B _ t _ h Slapped” Chris to humiliate him Not to harm him. If Will had hit Chris hard, he would have hit the ground. Will should apologize for cussing, but Not for the slap. Chris had that coming. What Chris did was the Same As telling a cancer patient that Lost their Hair from Radiation to go star in G. I. Jane 2. What Chris did was Horrible!
Nonono
CHRIS didn't do any wrong.
It's a comedy show. If nobody gets pissed off, he's not doing his job xD
If Will was being “violence” he would have used his Fist. If Will was being “violence” he would have Kept hitting Chris. If Will was being “violence” Chris would be Hurt. Will humiliated Chris on National television because Chris humiliated Jada on National television!
He's a fucking comedian you imbecile. If he wasn't humiliating people he wouldn't have been doing his job.
It was a joke anyways, being a liberal state they don't believe in arresting or jailing people for serious crimes, let alone something minor like this.
I would not have done it, but I would of got up and left and forever boycotted the award show forever.
I don't have any respect for award shows of a bunch of liberals giving each other awards to begin with.
The police showed and Chris Rock decided to not press charges otherwise they would have. Liberals are people too fyi. You don't have to be liberal or conservative to still respect each other and their differences. But you're definitely allowed to be closed minded and speak about people in generalized manner.
Also here's an excerpt and I'll give the source as well to counter your idea that blue states won't arrest anyone that commits minor or major crimes.
"According to the FBI’s Uniform Crime Report, the nationwide arrest rate is 3,024 per 100,000 residents, with California ranking 36th highest among states."
Source:
www.ppic.org/publication/arrests-in-california/
@Friendlybro79 Sure, tell that to all the victims of crime in San Francisco that they won't even prosecute, of course unless your a rape victim then the police have no problem using old rape kit DNA to go after rape victims, while they let the actual rapists go free and let people out of jail who were just booked so they can be arrested over and over.
There is more to it than just being arrested, even if Will Smith had been arrested, no time in jail and a tiny little fine is all he would of got, as California is very lenient on crime.
Thus your number of arrests mean nothing, anyone can be arrested and let out right away to re-offend.
Right. Look what happened with Juicy Smollett. He was supposed to be in prison for 6 months, and they let him out after just a few days.
I also read about a Mexican in LA, he broke into 3 cars in one day, because police kept letting him go.
In my town, there's a black guy who walks into Marshall's and just takes whatever he wants, and the store was told they're not allowed to do anything about it.
Well now you're talking about a different thing. I replied to your comment based on what you said. You're now changing the subject into something different. Can you cite any stats you have on this current claim you've made? To be clear, I'm not being sarcastic. I do understand terrible things happen to good people and the system isn't perfect. I've been assaulted before and mugged and unfortunately nothing could be done about it. I ask for stats because many times I've found people say things but don't always take the time to follow up on fact checking their statements. So they might have a perception of something based on something they heard. I can't assume you haven't done your due diligence to fact check yourself so that's why I ask for you to provide something. I'm not familiar with the local crimes of San Francisco and you seem to know more. So help me understand where you discoverered this data. I can't seem to find it but I might also not be searching this correctly.
*searching this incorrectly edit
Yeah, wow... very interesting. I do feel it was the wrong response to the situation.
Both have a bad look about them in this whole thing.
It was unlawful, but, in the justice of the real world, the right thing to do.
The real question that you should have asked is:
"Was Chris Rock at the Oscars making a distasteful hurtful joke about Jada Pinkett's alopecia and witnessed live by millions of people all over the world right or wrong? HINT: He was a profound asshole with that joke."
This is what I wrote today in The New York Times:
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I am a liberal and "woke" and all of that.
About Will Smith and Chris Rock...
Chris Rock's "joke" was in very poor taste and live in front of millions making it even worse and Will Smith's slapping him in response was illegal.
Was Will's response "right" though?
In the modern "woke" era, perhaps not, but, to any man of "The Greatest Generation", what Will Smith did was right. More so, those men would be shocked at the audacity of the "joke".
That's really what is at issue - how far our society has degraded that a "joke" of that caliber about a man's wife is deemed acceptable, but the husband slapping (not punching) the guy in response to that "joke" isn't.
And to think that the median age in the USA is 38 so over half of the people in this country were raised in a society in which such incivility in joke-telling (and not in private!) isn't shocking, but the completely traditional (and understandable to someone older) response is shocking to those people.
To me, that's even more upsetting that anything Chris Rock or Will Smith did last night.
Ridiculous really, if he was so worried, hurt, offended, he could have waited till he got his award and made it a teaching moment. Saying he did not appreciate the joke nor the audiences laughter towards his wifes medical issue. I really did not think the joke was offensive or pimp slap worthy at all but, ehh
Odd that Will defend the honor of his wife, while Jada never honored Will when she publickly cheated on Will.
I read an article online, that Smith and his wife had an "open relationship" and that neither of them felt that Monogamy was the way to live, and further, that if one had an affair with someone, they simply wanted to know about it beforehand, and had to give a yea, or nay to the 'fling'. Had you heard of this before?
Regardless of the joke being in bad taste, violence was not justified, not sending a very good nessage out to kids. I mean I we'd all love to slap the shit out of Chris Rock but this was too much, Will Smith obviously can't control his anger.
both were wrong, i mean she does have a medical issue, you wouldn't make a bad joke about someone going through cancer or their struggles with drug use or alcohol in the room. but he could have handled it better, waited till his speech and said something clever back. thats hollyweird for you-hypocrites
Wrong.
You don't respond to verbal with physical.
This is like those women who are losing an argument with their man and have no comeback so they slap them across the face.
Will was also smiling at the joke until he looked at his wife's face and saw she wasn't upset.
He's okay with other guys banging his wife but not making jokes?
Loser.
They were both out of line. But Chris Rock was way worse. Dude had no class. Got what he deserved. Still.. not sure if Will thought this through. Is Chris' total lack of judgment really worth Will going to jail over? This whole thing is flat-out stupid. And the fact that this is what makes the news, tells me there's something brewing somewhere in eastern Europe or east Asia somewhere, that's a thousand times worse, that the rags don't want us to know about.
@hahahmm : Found out that part later. Radio talking about it made it sound way worse than it was. But yeah, it was stupid, and Will should've known better. Only went through with it, because he's too beta to stand up to Jada. The slap was what she wanted. But she'd rather jeopardize Will's future, than do her own dirty work.
Also didn't know Will was a total cuck until Chloe Roma pointed it out. Like much of modern Hollywood in general, that whole scenario, and Will's whole family, are all very screwed up.
Okay. It's also been pointed out that if the Rock had made the joke, Will would have kept his butt in the seat. One of the few actors to call him out says Will has become the villain and must be tired of being the good guy. He's in a dangerous phase. Lots of guys have ended up dead from fighting over women.
I just don't get why people are saying he assaulted him... I mean I guess technically if you want to be like that it's not untrue but he slapped him.
He didn't beat the shit out of him or give him a black eye or try to hurt him, he slapped Chris.
@Bricealan see? Like you don't even have the 4 brain cells required to process what I just said.
When someone says assault, the insinuation is that some kind of bodily harm was intended. Something that would at the very least leave a mark that lasts longer than 20 minutes. And that it was unwarranted.
What will did was essentially a gesture of disrespect, it's literally the most harmless way he could have laid a finger on him.
If you want to be a lawyer and take out all the moral implications and ignore what's actually happening, yes he assaulted Chris.
If you want to have a productive conversation about the implications of saying what he did was right wrong or someplace in the middle, you need to start off by acknowledging that not only was Chris' joke about as low as he could go, but what will did after was not on the same level of (and by they way the charge would have been) aggrivated assault in how the phrase is intended/normally used.
@Bricealan maybe on a scale of 1-5 then where would yours be at? Like a 0.95?
Admittedly I am having trouble seeing why you think you're in a position to talk considering I just had to give you an English lesson.
Everyone saying that she has a disease, you are wrong. Look at her head. She clearly just shaves it. If she had a hair loss disease there would be large patches of absolute bald instead of the hair stubble that is covering her head. In any event alopecia is not a disease. I'm developing male pattern baldness, maybe I should go in to work tomorrow and tell them I have alopecia so I need to take a month off. There was no defending his family there, Smith is a cuck. His wife has been fucking around on him for their entire marriage and she told him So on a television interview program.
Lmfaooooo 🤣🤣🤣 It was very staged. But if it were real I have this to say.. If my man doesn't slap a guy for me I'm dumping his ass
I don’t think the academy would put their rep on the line for that embarrassing scene
@coachTanthony it's Hollywood they're fake and would do anything for ratings. Oscar's views have been very low and there have been complaints about lack of diversity. What better way to add diversity and drama for better ratings.
The academy is a respected institution. So let’s just throw that all away to get a few views which doesn’t help views when everyone learns about it the next day!
Hey, trash TV sales. The Oscar's has been the least talked about but now. After this shit show big 💰. The Oscar's switched a lot of things up to meet the trends of today. They added a rapper, beyonce finally showed up ND well ofcourse there the will ND Jada incident
Garbage was totally staged. Don't know how people can't see that. Look at Chris Rock pasture as Will Smith was walking up to him.
Hands behind his back and sticking his neck out. He knew it was coming and notice he didn't flinched one bit as its natural to flinch a little in self defense.
Will was literally laughing 10 seconds prior at the same joke then suddenly got angry? Please. He even walked off with a kinda smile on his face.
People just believe whatever foolishness they see. 🙄
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy exactly 🤣 like how do they not get that. I guess people are gullible these days. Hollywood is very fake and will do anything for ratings. He definitely knew if was coming his stance told it all and if you watch and pause the video you'll see he didn't really slap him.
He did slap him for real. Chris Rock pasture with his hands behind his back and reaction gave it all away.
He did 🤣🤣wtf? Omg but yeah his posture did give it away
Grown adults fallen for that ish should be embarrassed. People today are stupid af.
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy I'm shocked at the amount of ADULTS who think it's real. Like do they not realize these people are all actors and Hollywood has been pulling these stunts for years in order to get better ratings. Since this incident Chris rocks sales for his comedy tour skyrocketed. Hollywood is fake they're all actors
Exactly. Hardly no one watches the Oscar's anymore and I bet a huge portion of the population didn't even know the Oscar's were on that night.
After that slap as Chris Rock waited with a smile everyone started to give them attention and talking about them non stop.
Exactly 🤣 no one watches that shit. That's why they did this
Lots of people watch Oscar’s it’s just overshadowed by Ukraine war right now
It's endearing.
Will is staying by his wife through thick and thin; and will shield her through any bullshit that comes her way. This is what it means to be married; good and bad, sickness and in health. It is sad they have so much of their private life out in the open, but at least we can see how serious they are about marriage and each other.
Plus, this helps Jada out, because now when I google her I see Will defending her and not Will close to tears over the entanglement.
@Koneko911
Ha! You funny.
However, I wouldn't call Will toxic.
The Smiths' allowed us to make fun of Jada's entanglement and Will's seemly sad face, because they brought that on themselves; but to feel comfortable enough to make fun of her alopecia at the Oscar's. That's something you can't simply turn the other cheek on. Celebrities live by different rules whether you want to acknowledge that or not, simply ignoring it won't make the jokes stop and Chris Rock is well known with a huge following. If Will would have let that side, then the masses will take liberty to make jokes about her hair loss; what Will did not only negate that, but show the public how serious this is to the family.
Plus, if you know anything about men and how real fighting is like, you'll see that Will didn't use that much strength. He made a hit that surprised Chis Rock more than knock him on his feet. It's more of a back off rather than a threat, and Chris understood that which is why he didn't press charges.
It's okay for you to think in black and white, because you have all right to do so; but understand there's a bigger picture. Abuse and toxic masculinity is a problem; but none of that was here.
So well said through and through, thank you!
@skycastle90
@Koneko911 Exactly. She thinks that is good for her "ego"
Yeah no. I don't wanna hear it. Will did it because his bitch of a wife can't take a God damn joke and told him to fucking do it say something. And being the pussy whipped coward he did he tried to act all tough and hot someone. Fuck that. What he did wasn't acceptable no matter how you try to twist it
@Koneko911
To each their own.
People are going to be talking about this for months, like this will literally go down in history as well as making memes about it. Will shouldn't have slapped him but Chris shouldn't have made that joke so to me both are in the wrong.
So making jokes is illegal now? Oh right. I forgot it's 2022.
You really think Will Smith would've slapped a female comedian who made that joke, like Sarah Silverman? Or that everyone would be defending his CLEARLY WRONG actions if he slapped the sh*t out of her? Anyone who condones Smith's bitch-ass slapping another man like a diva in a shoe store, pretty much condones Cancel Culture. "It's okay to hurt people due to jokes."
@Lionman95
That's irrelevant. Like I said elsewhere, if society wants to condone violence because they got mildly offended like a pussy, then I'd be Purging everyone on the streets for the daily human stupidity.
Defending the honor of the honorless. Seems like an oxymoron but okay. Will Smith is a cuck and it's clear that he's not partnered with his wife, he's owned by her. Dude gets cheated on and then cries sucking up to her blaming himself. The dude is an emotional wreck and an embarrassment. If he was strong he would have left her a long time ago. Just look at this clown smh.
Read an article about those Hollywood types that believe that 'monogamy' is past its time, and Will smith and Wife signed onto that belief, as long as one or the other informs the partner that they was a 'fling'. That was six months ago, and there were several others that agreed with it.
Rightly, or wrongly, it was a stupid thing for Will Smith to do in front of the public eye, and on television. I did not see it, but if the comment was in bad taste, and apparently it was, he and his wife should have just simply walked away and not made a bad scene much worse in the public eye. Smith, whether he knows it or not, 'blackened' his eye before the public, with that kind of behavior.
Considering Smith LAUGHED at first, before seeing his wife was not amused... Absolutely not!
Men were being sexually assaulted on stage, but no one felt the need to slap the hosts as they did it.
There were other poor jokes that people didn't get physically assaulted over!
Definitely wrong. It makes Will Smith look so weak, it was obviously a joke. I don’t even think Chris Rock was even aware of her disease. Plus she looks beautiful either way (I. e., with hair and without). I feel like Will Smith should have just waited in til he got his award and handled it outside rather than making himself look like a joke.
Officially it was wrong, but in the larger context Chris Rock and others in recent years had made cruel jokes about Will Smith and his wife, and he seemed to be a man under a lot of stress.
I don't think that joke was too bad, but Chris Rock and others can sometimes fly close to the sun with jokes.
I can understand why he'd be annoyed or irate at the joke, since it was fairly mean-spirited, but I do think that slapping him was rather excessive.
If it was a more serious illness as opposed to something as minor as hair loss, then I could understand the level of his anger, but as it stands now, I think Will was in the wrong for slapping Chris.
Will Smith is a punk. He let other dudes disrespect him and his wife, but now he wants to act tough when the guy making jokes is a comedian? He gets paid for this shit. I know Will wasn't saying shit when August was breaking her back. He wouldn't do a goddamn thing if the joke came from Fiddy. He's a punk. Chris Rock handled the situation with class. Good for him.
Good … good for ratings and clicks otherswise movie industry and oscars is doa. chris needed smacked long time ago. Media loves drama…that’s why this was front page news. A good sermon this weekend talked about how we should stay out of drama and people who cause it.
Shows how low the value system is in Hollywood and how thankful I am I waste no time funding it.
Yeap 100%. If my partner had an illness and someone was joking on her about it, I'd pop them too.
And you'd be guilty of a crime.
I can tell you don’t value freedom of speech. Or that you’ve ever faced consequences for your anger problems.
@Agagagagaga freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom of consequence.
@Agagagagaga The purpose of "freedom of speech" is to be able to freely discuss political discourse so our society can get better. It's part of a healthy democratic process.
Freedom of speech to be a profound asshole doesn't do anyone any good.
Furthermore, if you want freedom of speech, then you better accept the freedom of reaction to that speech. This is mammals have evolved inhibitor mechanisms in the brain: To prevent you from doing or saying shit that is going to get you hurt or killed.
So you hope I get killed next time I defend my partner? Good to know.
@PrettyPriya
@SecretsofKB just so another mod can see this
@Agagagagaga Just remember that old adage: your rights end where my nose begins. Also - I believe in freedom of speech, but it is not absolute. That's why we have laws against slander and libel.
@Agagagagaga I do value the freedom of speech and I appreciate it considerably.
Look, I am not advocating for what Smith did (which was illegal); I am explaining it at an instinctive level.
What Chris Rock and many other young people of all political persuasions forget is this:
"Just because you can say (or do) something, doesn't mean you should."
Chris Rock had the legal freedom to do what he did. And, he got clocked for it.
Had he not done it, he wouldn't have received that.
Let me put it another way with a non-violent example.
When you leave your home, do you lock your doors?
Of course, you do.
Should you? You SHOULD... but, ideally, you shouldn't.
Why?
Because, if no one breaks the law, then your home is safe with unlocked doors and you can relax.
But, you're not an idiot - you've been around the block, understand human nature a bit, and know that, ...
___while you could leave the doors to your home unlocked, you shouldn't because you will regret it ___
Thus, you lock your doors. By not leaving your doors unlocked, you don't regret having things stolen from your home.
chris rock doesn't know when to stop it was not a joke it was insulting I have a vgsoh and what he said was extremely bad taste. Will smith was right in standing up for his OH pity she can't be more faithful to Will. Will should not be stripped of his award!
We're looking at this as right or wrong it is always wrong to put your hands on someone else and anger yet having a wife and a family especially when your wife is publicly fighting a problem that you made a joke about is out of line and deserves a retort of some kind. Will Smith is one who chooses violence as a response. Deal with it.
Remember ladies, if you defend husbands hitting other men so he can "protect your honour", then you can't complain if he hits you to "protect his OWN honour". You can't pick and choose when it's okay for toxic behaviour to manifest in your mate. It's either all okay or none of it's okay, you can't have your cake and eat it too.
(yes it is different when physical safety is at stake and he's physically protecting you, or in some other extenuating circumstance where the woman is facing a serious psychological/verbal assault. But context matters. And in the context of this particular outburst from Will Smith, it just screams of toxic behavior and overreaction. And once that behavior is rewarded societally, then you kinda forfeit the right to walk back your support of it once it invariably lands on your doorstep.)
I do t think Chris Rock knew she has a disease. Will should have talked to him later about his issue with his joke. He never should have slapped him and he make a joke that people would forget in 20 seconds to a joke people will remember for years. The only reason Will Smith isn’t in jail and blacklisted is because of how big of a celebrity he is.
Yea, I personally didn’t find it that bad of a joke and if I were in her shoes I’d be laughing but I can also understand why someone would be upset.
My dad bitch slapped slapped a guy years ago when he made a deragatory remark about my mom. The guy looked at my dad and said, "you know what? I deserved it". It's not a big deal. They're both adults and will get over it. I think. I keep forgetting, they are a part of the whole "LA LA land" scene.
Honestly, pretty cringeworthy. This is a woman who had a very public affair and he's acting the fool to defend her "honour" against a very soft joke.
A woman who cheated on him, and then brought him on TV in front of a group of her feminist friends, including Gwyneth Paltrow, and imply HE was the one in the wrong for "making her cheat," no less. Will Smith lost his balls a LONG time ago. And Chris Rock letting himself get smacked by a literal cuckold, makes him look even worse.
I would've f*cked Will Smith up, to be honest. I doubt Smith would've done that to Joe Rogan or any athlete.
I just said the same in another question: Blue-pill simp cuck that shows once again how men must keep toxic women out of their lives. His smile did not last. Once Jada started pulling the strings again with her demonic look he changed his attitude stood up to defend his cheating wife.
Voted A, but I don't think it was right or wrong. I don't blame him a bit for doing it. Chris, yes a comedian, but crossed a line I think. I believe he should've talked to Will about his "material" and got his ok before doing it. If anyone was in the "wrong", I think it was more Chris. I know whenever I see Chris Rock, I naturally feel the urge to slap him and he's done nothing to me ever LOL
This is something that should have been handled off screen.
So what now, any comedian that offends you in their act
you are allowed to assault them?
I'm coming down on the other side of this. I think he showed great restraint and that it was justified. You make fun of my wifes appearance due to a disease on national TV, one of us is going to the hospital. there's a time for standing up for your wife and this is it.
Staged trash. Rock with his stand behind his back sticking his neck out and doesn't naturally flinch one bit as its natural when you are going to get hit and Will was laughing 10 seconds earlier at the joke then slap Rock with a smirk on his face as he leaves.
*hand

LOL yeah I saw that. what a joke.
Will is Hollywoods one of biggest SIMP.
the guy need emotional/mental help.
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