We, as a society, teach our sons how to treat women, and what to expect from them. We do NOT teach our daughters how to treat men, and what to expect from THEM. Few young people have any real idea of what a marriage IS, let alone how to make it work (no, I'm not saying I'm an expert, but I'm aware enough to know my ignorance). So, having learned from Hollywood, many think relationships should be all candy and smiles, and they're tempted to bail when things get hard.
Unfortunately, this couples with decades of propaganda telling girls "You are female, and therefore a powerless victim, unable to affect real change or improve your life in any way", and so many- far more than would otherwise- turn to casual sex for meaning and social media for validation. This is a double whammy- exceedingly attractive men who want lots of sex with lots of women (which is most of them), tend to not be picky, which tells these women that they can easily get an exceedingly attractive man. And so, thinking with her genitals instead of her brain (believe me, that is FAR from unique to men), she focuses all her efforts on guys who aren't really interested in her, but ARE interested in meaningless sex and are REALLY hot.
So she takes a shot at him and fails, and goes back to social media. She thinks she got rejected because she's ugly, so she seeks validation, and gets it. Because most men are so desperate for even the possibility of sex that they'll praise anyone who's not actually a warthog? Well, partially- but mostly it's because most men aren't actually all that picky. The super-attractive guys are, but they can afford to be. Unfortunately, there's also another side: the social validation that comes from social media. Humans are status-seeking animals, and one of the primary sources of status for women is the ability to land a high-status partner. This is the root of all those image posts of "Me and my Man XXXXXXWD" (or whatever the hell they actually say).
You notice how it's never just text; there's ALWAYS a picture? It's not about gratitude for having a good, or even good-looking, man- though it's certainly true that might also be present; few expressions of ANY sort have only one motivation- it's about declaring your dominance by getting a high-status man. There's a lot more genuine goodwill to be found in the plain-text posts that say "My boyfriend is so awesome I love him so very much he kisses me and makes me pancakes and promised to teach me how punctuation works" type; there's bragging there, too, but it's not showing off in the same way.
So many, many women are simultaneously getting told they're attractive and interpreting this as "you are an avatar of the goddess of sex" rather than "you look pretty" while simultaneously seeking to one-up all the other girls by getting the best-looking man. It's a recipe for disaster. Now, you may think that only shallow, vapid-minded girls are going to do that, and there's certainly some truth to that, but they're all tempted towards it, and many who'd otherwise say "Nah, I'll just find me a man who's smart/loyal/a good provider/loves children/has a better Lego collection" don't know enough to do so.
We raise too many princesses and not enough philosopher-queens.
Social Media and the Great Lie: “It will bring you together with people and your friends groups will blossom as well as your man/woman acquaintances…it will save all kinds of Time so the dates will be so much better.
Social Media Truths: it makes people lazy providing no impetus for meeting and greeting in person. Why would a woman when her emotional needs can be met within communication whether LDR or Not ⁉️
Why would he when physical “sex-text”, teasing, and whatever else can be met by a Pavlovian notification.
Who would find a need to leave those mutually enjoying power-exchanges for the nightmare that’s personal dating…or first meet where like they’re not even the same person.
What a slug…bump on a log, please.. no charm monkey 🙈. And what’s this shy 💩, suddenly afraid to talk now. 🚗… 🚘….”what a F-in nightmare” both on their ride home.
Next day or two income’s Notifications and…awww, here she or he is. This is the him/her…still hope 😎.
NO thank you dating apps, FB, and all that other SM 💩. At least Meetup are where the real people are with an intentional Plan. KEEP your SM 💩
I feel like we are very much in a female sexual revolution. So women are not as likely to want the American dream, two kids and a white picket fence. Because for the first time in the grand scheme of things, this isn't the only thing expected of us.
So women are taking advantage of it and men are left in the dust as they have been raised with the same values as their fathers and their fathers before them. They still want the American dream because why wouldn't they? They were the winners in that situation.
Social media is a huge factor in this whole situation. I completely agree that the male to female ratio on tinder is disproportionate. men are feeling it and I'm sorry the odds are no longer in your favor. I do however feel this 180 flip has created men that have serious hatred towards women that dont fit their old fashioned, idealistic mold. These are the men that have not adapted and become self-sufficient well rounded human beings that the modern woman is attracted to.
I don't believe it's unfair. All I know is this is rather unprecedented on this scale. But over time natural selection of those who cannot evolve will level the playing field.
this is amazing. greatly said.
It is unfair and women are not at fault. At least not entirely. Men are at fault for allowing this to happen. Men of ancient generations.
Women are taking advantage of a world they were born into. And men would be doing the same had society been in reverse.
That's just how it is. Women generally have power in beauty and sexuality and men? Everything else. No offense but true. And as with anything else, there are always exceptions.
Well I think you are hitting a great point in the third paragraph. Throughout history women have been allowed power in beauty and sex. But now after two, three generations of more women being encouraged to pursue careers and travel abroad. We now have access to all the cards men used to hold plus beauty. Men seem to think this is unfair however society has just adapted and its not common place for women to cater to men's needs. Men who have stepped up and hold the same ambition as women do not feel like they have been slighted.
No incorrect. All the highest positions and certain levels in world society are all commonly involving men. (NFL, NBA, major sports, science, technology, NASA, medicine, engineering, food industry, etc... one can even make the case that men can also be just as and even more so physically beautiful. So I could also be wrong about women's power in beauty and sexual attraction.
What women really lead overall is in the fashion industry (make-up, modeling etc.)
Natural beauty is another thing altogether, which any man or woman can possess.
Also, what men generally have to deal with that women never have to is in the following narratives: creep, pervert, loser, pedophile, rapist, serial killer, incel, stalker and other serious reputational issues in life.
Women hold the "angelic" narrative LOL.
... all due to certain men themselves. One of the biggest mistakes many members of society makes is mentioning "double standards".
There are NO double standards. Men and women are different.
I don't see where I am incorrect. I did not claim women are leading the business world. Just that we are now raising our daughters to broaden their horizons and pursue careers. Something only men could do for a very long time. However it is in fact proven companies lead by women have, over all, happier and more successful employees. I think you are forgetting the original question and you are now simply arguing against women as a whole. However I do think it's funny you are now invalidating your own points to do so. I think the narratives you speak of- that men can be coined as can be life and reputation ruining. And I also agree that women are capable of evil and often overlooked. I think that is a bias in society that needs to be evaluated. However you cannot deny women are often overlooked in those cases because men are much more likely to rape, sexually assault, stalk, and sexually harass. That's also something within our society that needs to be evaluated. I agree men and women are different. We run on completely different hormone cycles but saying that is a reason a woman should or cannot do something is a poor excuse of validating your own misogyny.
Social media has just messed up communication altogether including texting. Meet and socialize with people outside of social media, don't expect to have a deeper connection to someone through a screen. Both sexes are experiencing different things with online dating, guys having hard time getting replies and the women are finding men who are just using the app for hookups. That's why there's so much hesitation with online dating and why it's just not working a lot for many.
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Yes because now girls who are 4's or 5's can sleep with a guy who is a ten and assume they are interested in them when all they want to do is smash for a night. So the evil cycle then continues of women thinking now they slept with a ten that another ten will want them for a relationship and they don't. So the good guys are now left out in the cold until these women get ran through and they all wake up... but then it's too late because a man values virtue.
Yes this js awful
No, it's because girls seeing fake girls on social media getting stuff they could never have and start wishing for them.
For example, most men aren't 6' tall. But every girl says she wants a 6' tall guy. If all the girls were to be satisfied then they will have to be 2nd, 3rd, 4th concubines of the few guys who are over 6'
They also said the same thing with guys making over 300k a year even though most of them don't know how much 300k is.
They start to get unrealistic expectations. Then when reality hit them, they all get bitter and angry and blame the men around them not being good enough.
what are some of these unrealistic expectations you speak of besides height and money?
Yes bc it shapes everyone to believe what they need is a man with pure masculinity and then they get that man and the female get's treated like shit and then usually they go for a guy who doesn't love himself and then after that they think they are hopeless and can't find a good man to match their qualities personality wise so they stop dating until they are like 25-30 so yeah kinda, this is what i think also men are dumb as well and think that it's smart to act like their favorite rapper so they fake a lifestyle and then females figure that out bc they get fucked and then get kicked out and the person faking the lifestyle works at MC Donald's, or females listen to rap and think they need a rich guy so they go after people with expensive clothing just for money instead of what they need and usually rich people are dick heads some of my family is millionaires and they treat their kids like shit so imagine how their kids grow up and treat their women. I hope my opinion helps.
It made it difficult for everybody to be honest. It has ruined the life's of many people. Yet they are the only ones to blame as they have let this happen.
Still difficult I wouldn't say more like it's been a mess. A real mess because people now days don't know what they want.
As a person in my 30 th I have set my priorities in life so my dating expections are set on a qulites that must be meet. And wouldn't have it any other way.
But making us do all the work, all the speaking and all the struggling is just annoying. Like most expect from us to be like that. Yet that ain't how the sun shines. So I can't see myself dating a girl or a woman which life is a mess and yet has the audacity to point at me.
Whatever really who cares anymore.
If your looking for someone your just better off looking in the real world than on the internet. I know it seems harder than swipe left or swipe right but the information you get will be a lot more reliable when you just go out and meet people in person. And in the long run that will make your dating life much smoother.
I knew a girl who went on over 60 dates last year because she swiped left and right and she’s still single and 30 something. It’s very frustrating for her. She has very high standards and doesn’t want to change but it hasn’t dawned on her that dating apps are hurting more than they are helping. She’s getting the dates but they aren’t good quality dates as compared to when she was dating him college.
Social media definitely plays its part since it allows the most desperate men to simp for girls, and in the process, it prevents those desperate men from being forced to fond real girls to talk to and elevates the egos of many girls receiving their attention far higher than is congruent with their date-ability.
Then as a side effect, most normal men have to pursue girls who are super desperate or girls who think thwy arentoo good for them. And another side effect is that more normal girls often are ignored by guys whose heads are in the clouds simping over girls they have no chance with. It's a terrible cycle.
Yes, the primary problem is weak men "simping" as the kids call it. Just being all around pathetic. But while men could technically take power back, I'm not so sure those men can actually do it. Or at least it seems they won't. And where does that leave the men who actually aren't part of the problem?
Men have always had to be the pursuers and women have always had the privilege of being pursued. That's just the nature of human attraction, sexuality and reproduction, so that's nothing new. What social media has allowed is for women to use makeup and photo editing technology to make them appear more attractive than they really are. And it's important to note that most women on social media who are looking for male attention are in fact "prostitutes" in the sense that they are objectifying themselves and overusing their sexuality in exchange for the currency of male attention.
Having said all that, the biggest reason guys have a hard time finding a good girl today is that there just are not many of them anymore.
I'm frequently pursued by women. So it can be both ways.
@es20490446e If that is actually true, you are a rare man.
Most of my life has been the opposite.
Till I realized a simple truth, which is that women like men as much as men like women, or even more.
But they won't tell you, they will pretend it is otherwise.
Hence men are mislead by that, and start acting as they were the sole interested party. What I do is expecting the woman to show interest too, otherwise I stop acting on it.
Basically I allow women to approach me at their own pace, instead of forcing them to do so. Also not expect every woman to be interested in me, I only act on women that show a certain degree of interest and respond to my easygoing flirting.
@es20490446e You are so clearly a woman.
I have banana.
No doubt about it - the legion of male SIMPs out there, who not only gas up so many women, but PAY them just for the hope of getting a reply or maybe a pic, has been a big part of the destruction of the dating market. Those very same desperate guys have only made it harder for themselves - AND everyone else - to succeed. They are idiots, and I tell them so (and WHY) as often as I can.
Nope. It's just bait to draw out the bad character of most women and expose them for who they really are. Most women will put on an act for a long time when dating because they are afriad to show their true selves. With social media and dating sites they expose how much of a dirt bag they are before a guy even asks their name.
It's more difficult for men AND women because ----------- too many people are lying! Everyone bashes the social media idea itself, but that's not why it sucks. It's bad because far too many users completely misrepresent themselves and just outright lie. It's operator error, so what else would you expect?
Since you're a man posing as a female on this site, perhaps stop hiding as a female anon might help you out. Now to address your question, blaming social media for shitty social interactions is no different than when anti-gun nuts blame guns for murder. Social media, guns, nuclear fission, etc., are amoral in of themselves. And the use of such is a reflection of actor.
I think that only mediocre girls buy into that bullshit.
A woman that has brain can see that's just a fantasy. Sure you can get many guys, but what kind of guys are those?
Definitely not my kind. I'm not even there, or have social media where they can contact me.
Why should I? If I have no problem attracting girls in real life, where online is an absolute nightmare.
Absolutely not! The guys complaining about not getting girls on SM weren't getting bitches anyway. SM has made it wayyy easier because it's given men a cost affordable way to increase the number of women they meet. U think it's tough now Imagine 20 years ago when you could only meet women at bars and clubs and had to... approach women in person, which some guys probably think is against the law.
definitely a lot harder. a lot of bad girls be masquerading as good girls. if there was a good girl, she'd already been taken.
the whole "be yourself" or "be confident" bullshit is becoming more clear each day.
You make it sound as if the chain of causal events is desperate men=egotistical women, but from all I've read and heard it's rather egotistical women with impossible standards=majority of average men left out creating desperate men who elevate egotistical women.
Yes, but I think Feminism is the largest reason. Women think they can have it all now and it's given them an unrealistic perception of men. Conversely it's divided men into 2 camps the have and the have nots. The have nots are self explanatory they most likely will always be relegated to singlehood. While the haves will never need to commit to any one woman as they'll always have a bevy of partners to choose from.
Guys are like this by nature I think because they want to get laid. You think guys didn't behave this way before social media? They were still complementing average/ugly girls to get laid... or maybe that's their type?
I'm now starting to only accept relationships with women face to face, and also I'm trying to reduce social media (using it or socializing/messaging), I only have a few numbers on my cell phone and a few friends on my Facebook.
I also deleted IG, TIKTOK, TWITTER applications. I watch YouTube videos more often than I have to use social media to send messages.
I also started to play less cell phone. and start appreciating real life. I've read that staring at a cell phone screen too often can damage facial skin.
Social media and dating apps mean women are flooded with limitless options.
But the options presented are mostly utter shite.
It shouldn't be a factor if a guy actually goes out and talks to women (or just people in general).
Absolutely. Women are as addicted to attention from social media and dating apps as men are to porn. Both are ungenuine and produce very unfair expectations and self-images.
i think it’s getting harder for guys like you to make posts like this under a fake female persona without people knowing right off the back that you’re a guy posing as a “woman”.
at least make it a little believable
You can think whatever you want, I don't care at all. I just wanted to see what people think about a topic I saw on YouTube.
It made it a lot easier for me. I met a few good women through online dating, and married the last one.
I'm not sure what your definition of "good" is but if its pretty traditional I think that men are about as interested in good girls as girls are interested in good guys
Many men turn women off by the way they talk. Some of the things posted on here are classic examples of it, It's enough to turn you off men forever.
Yes, of course. Society is a chain after all. Some of the rings brake, the whole chain breaks and the other rings get affected as well!
Not really. The egotistical women who get off on the mass attention of random thirsty dude and not what I would consider "good" anyway.
To an extent. You have to see people for what and who they are instead of what you want.
If I notice a big ego, I go ghost or just block immediately
No because the rest of the women that aren't on the dating sites are all around you but you just have to be willing to look around and have people skills.
Oh yeah for sure. Too many options and unrealistic expectations.
The problem with social media is its becoming an amazon for dating and its destroying the traditional way to date. Not one person I have met simply says "send me a request in Tinder."
yes and no. no not JUST a guy to find a good one. instead the yes is social media made finding any sort of quality next to impossible for everyone.
Once women realize her life is empty of trying to get attention and reassurance from tons of strangers maybe things will change. I find it desperate for women and girls to seek attention like that or use OnlyFans.
I don't think it makes it harder to get a good girl. It makes it less likely one will find a good girl because the average woman is no longer a good girl.
Back in the day girls only had guys in their neighborhood and guys they went to school with girls have too many options now and women are too indecisive to pick through thousands of men
No. I don't believe in blaming social media and the internet for people's failures.
People always like to play the victim and blame someone or something for their failures.
No i don't think so. But yes it has made harder for good men to get a good girl
Why do men praise average girls
Yeahh
more like the other way around since most guys go online for hookups.
Not at all. Good men generally won’t use most dating apps to find good women.
It made it harder for both sexes and not just for men.
That's just one of the tentacles of a system designed to serve the vagina
yea, if for no other reason it has taken so many women and damaged them emotionally
Hi a good girl does not give head until the 4 the or 5 date+ she never shows too much cleavage
No Ma'am I have totally opposite view..
I get girl whoever I want from SM it's buffe actually it's easy to guy like me to pick up any girl.
So it is. You have figured that out. Well done.
It's definitely made dating harder
No men have always been desperate
Can’t see why that would make a difference.
I think I can agree with this, yes.
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