Look I hate to break it to you but women with children have extra baggage and that's even if you've got the most amically split ever. If you have a child or more than one that's more of your time spent on that child/ren and less on building foundations with the new dude.
Next you have planning of dates if your a single parent you most likely hang at home with your kids a lot, which means nothing can be spontaneous no quick outings or a bite here or there. It'll have to be a Saturday that time or else and that's it. Most people without kids don't understand it, and if you bring your kid with you it'll have to be child friendly and you won't have the relaxed mum you'll have the one who's prepared for all her child's needs.
With this you have the ex, where is he? How much involvement is there? Is she going to end up cheating with the ex? How involved is he with the child? Does he help with the cost of the child?
Lastly you have the relationship with the kid, How old is the kid? Are you allowed to discipline the kid? Is the kid going to accept you or hate you cause you're not their dad? Or hate on you cause you're taking mum away? How hurt will you be if the relationship ends and you don't see the kid again? If the option is there would you adopt the kid? Would you be the stepfather of the child? Will you feel guilty for ending a relationship cause you like the kids but not the mum?
And this is just the top of my head, everything I said here is all things the guy would have to consider when dating a single mum. All of this is on top of whether she's a good person have things that you both have in common and all the other things you'd normally have to consider when in a relationship.
You can get lucky I'm not saying that no one will want to date you it can happen. It's more likely that it'll be another single dad, but not always. But I'm not counting my chickens anytime soon, I made my bed and I definitely could have made better choices. The best thing you can do is just work on yourself as a person and be a great mum.70 Reply
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I usually would not respond like this but WOW! some of the guys responses really got my knickers in a twist. They immediately remind me of this man that skipped out on child support and then denied he had any children. Why? Well because he couldn't get himself a younger woman that didn't have kids interested in him.
Now I can accept that kind of mind frame from men that have not ventured down the path to have a family yet, understandable but just remember it's not all about what you think it may be. Money included.
Be open minded as for all you know not only is she very beautiful, sexy, classy, wealthy and independent, she doesn't need your money and she can easily arrange for a sitter if she chooses to. Her kid or kids are also schooled, well mannered and respectful. She doesn't need a replacement daddy to survive just a real man that wants to show how good he can be for her and maybe make an effort to be a positive role model for her kids to know that not all men are utter... (ladies I'll let you word that part).23 Reply- +1 y
@zatsuma I don't care if she's beautiful, sexy, classy, wealthy, & independent. If she's a single mother, I don't see that woman as a girlfriend material.
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Most baby mommas do need or want a guy's money and their kids are usually very misbehaved because they aren't disciplined.
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Dextro. I totally agree. And thank you for being a gentleman and not going on attack mode. Most didn't read the part where I said I accept the way the singles without kids think. Especially if they are still young as I wouldn't date a single parent if I was in my prime years. I just added to keep a open mind. Not saying do it, simply trying to make a point that not every single parents situation is as worse as some of the reasons I read.
It's a failed society if we even have to argue about the basics.
Yes, most men are turned off by single mothers. No, they are not "insecure" or "don't think they have what it takes" it's just that nobody likes liability. No, it doesn't mean that they hate kids either.
I'm surprised at the lack of common sense a lot of these women debating this question have. Why is that any of your business as a single mom why random men don't want you? This is a free society, nobody should be forced to be with anyone that they don't want to be with and they don't need to explain their reasons to you. If you don't think that's fair, too bad. Life is not fair. It's not fair why some people are born as trust fund babies while others work long hours and never become successful, yet it HAPPENS. You have to continue living and stop crying about things that are outside of your influence. You should've made better decisions, but now that you're here you cannot undo a child so you're just gonna have to settle for whatever you can get. You gave away your advantage, so you don't get to dictate how the negotiation takes place.
And to all of those people who don't like ehat I said, go touch some grass. You asked for an opinion, I gave my opinion. Don't ask people what they think about a problem if you cannot handle the response.
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+1 yI think that it's mostly a turnoff in men who either do not yet have children of their own, or who have chosen that they do not want children. Because while your children are not his and you might tell him that he is not obligated to care for them, the children are still going to be apart of his life and he's going to feel that obligation, anyway. There's also always that worry of her having a crazy ex-boyfriend/husband who he is going to have to deal with as well.
After 30+, if you are single and in the dating scene then a single mother is just something you are going to have to come to accept as a possibility if he wants companionship. The plus side to this is that the older she is, the more likely her child (ren) are also of an age where they can act independently of him and the mother. At an older age for him, he's more likely to have kids as well and be accepting of her also having kids, or he's realistic enough to understand that a lot of women his age are going to have children by then.
Is that really fair if she is like 25 and wants companionship with a male around her age? Perhaps not, but with young kids and young adults comes a lot of drama and risk of problems involving ex-lovers so I can understand why a lot of men might be averse to single mothers.
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1.9K opinions shared on Relationships topic. The only men that would be turned off by it are the ones that know they are not good enough to be a male role model for the child. Its a very big red flag if men are like this so stay away from those saying this. They most likely wouldn't be good partners in a relationship either.
Find the good ones they are out there. I've heard a statistic that single moms are 10% more likely to find their true love then regular single women since they know what they are looking for from a man.
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I'll have to disagree and I think most people would. Why would a man want to be responcible for another kids father? Its not his job. I think the majority of men would choose a woman without kids than kids with some other guy. Most men want to build a future with a woman not another man's future.
But I dont think women who have kids and are single should be shamed and there are still men out there who would be with them but I highly doubt it has anything to do with what you said😊 - +1 y
children are a huge financial commitment, in addition to this having a child and being single gives off huge red flags. why are you single if you had a relationship that you felt comfortable having a child in. if you had the child without considering if the relationship was going to be life long then you have impulse control issues. if you expect men to bend over backwards to support your poor life decisions you are sadly full of unrealistic expectations. if you want a christian husband you'll likely be fine as they will forgive your past sexual sins in this case but you have to be willing to take that seriously and sadly most single mothers think they did nothing wrong and that you aren't "man enough" if you dont pick up the bill for them which is not only incredulous but its just another example of sexism and men having 0 sexual rights. women these days feel like its their right to have kids out of marriage and to abort thoes children if they feel like it while simultaneously looking down on men who dont want to deal with this.
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Your ''10% more likely to find their true love'' has a history of the woman initating the divorce for her benifits most of the time. The ''true love'' maybe for her but it may not be for the husband manipulated and afraid he might end up like her ex (es)
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Your agenda saying they're not real men for not wanting single mothers is almost as like the saying ''you're not a real woman if you choose to abort or just not have kids at all'' which i don't agree with.
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@Pistolshrimp well it is a woman's right to have kids or abort. She holds that power and any man that thinks otherwise has womb envy
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@Spongebobssocks if a man wouldn't be willing to raise another child besides his own it's very likely that he is gonna be a shit dad to any kids of his own and shit partner. It shows he doesn't value life or love.
Single moms/kids are the most vulnerable in our society. To bully those women/call them undatable because they have a kid is disgusting. A man simply having that opinion towards single moms is a bad sign is what I'm trying to get at - +1 y
@Aiko_E_Lara anyone can be manipulated in a any relationship. Most moms are single moms cuz of deadbeats and abusers so if a guy is good he would worry about becoming a ex
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@apple1996Bullying a single mother is bad yes that shows bad charachter. But not wanting to date one is not bad charachter at all.
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No one said only men can. However, that doesn't really remove the fact that divorce benefits women which is also the reason why they're the ones who'd initiate it most of the time. Even if the man is abused and manipulated in relationships, they can't just file a divorce like women do because it's always assumed by the court that the husband is always at fault. So if you like to say that most moms are single because of "abusers" then I can easily just say that most men punished by law after a divorce are innocent.
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I really like how you say it's women's rights to abort. Your'e justifying that one like how guys justify how they don't wanna date single moms and yet you're pushing your agenda on them. It's also men's rights not to date single mom. If they're such red flags, then women like you who think we're obligated to date them are red flags.
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@Aiko_E_Lara dating vs abortions are completely different things. And the divorce really depends like I know some women that have had to pay the man so I don't see it as all men always being the victims
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Then you failed to see the factor here. Women who wants to abort don't wanna be responsible for children that she didn't want, that's same goes for men not wanting single moms. And to wonder what happened to her ex is to top it off. It's also the same that we don't see single moms to be always the one who's the victim. We have the preference, we're entitled to it. You're not entitled to any man you want.
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@Aiko_E_Lara once the child is already here and alive for years it's very different then it not even being born yet. And I myself don't feel entitled to men cause I'm barely even attracted to them lol. Speaking for other women on this tbh.
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But still, why make it our obligation? I mean there are also plenty of other orphans in the orphanage waiting to be adopted and it's for the same reason why we're not adopting them. If you care so much about any children not having proper parents, why don't you adopt one and not even judge yourself for not adopting any? You can have all the excuses and reasoning you want, that doesn't change how you think it's our obligation to date them making you a bigger red flag than any people not adopting any children.
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You're not speaking for women, you're making assumptions on men. You're speaking for men not even considering what their intentions truly are. You still wouldn't like it if anyone judges you for supporting abortion and you despite having all the reason, you're getting judge for not adopting any children now do you?
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@Aiko_E_Lara my husband tried adopting a 3 year old while overseas. It was a issue since I was already pregnant so they didn't allow it since we already have kids/the pregnancy. Would love to tho but lots of rules. They make it difficult to adopt. Even my brother and his wife that are very well off and have 0 kids tried to adopt but couldn't. Really sad tbh
And men aren't obligated to do anything. They can have their preferences but that's not gonna stop me from having a opinion it and thinking that they are a pos man
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@Apple1996 i admire your synpathy for single mothers I really do:) but thats not logical. Men and women tend to want different things in relationships. Therefor it doesn't show bad charachter. I mean would you wanna date a man 5 feet tall who is obese? Problaby not but it doesn't make you a bad person.:)
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*sympathy
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"You can have all the excuses and reasoning you want, that doesn't change how you think it's our obligation to date them making you a bigger red flag than any people not adopting any children." <-- that statement still stands however. And no, you're indeed trying to say we're obligated to actually date single moms. You're not saying thesame thing to most people in this world who don't even wanna adopt. But if most people are red flags, then you're the problem. You can have opinions and of course no one can stop you but your bias is in fact still showing.
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@Spongebobssocks She probably "would" (Maybe just lie to herself) just to try to make your claims seem invalid. "Because she does it, everyone should too" trying to cause a bandwagon effect based on her own belief.
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@Aiko_E_Lara maybe she would:) either way I dont wanna start any beef lol. I disagree on her viewpoint but its good she cares for single mothers.
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@Aiko_E_Lara I'm not saying that anyone is obligated. I'm saying they're a bad person and not relationship material. Anyone that might be triggered by me saying that is because that's the truth and they don't wanna be called out as being a bad person
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@Spongebobssocks *Hugs* It's fine. I got this. I appreciate your point of view by the way.
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@Aiko_E_Lara no need to respond to her she has made up her mind. :)
Hope you both have a good day! @Apple1996 - +1 y
@Aiko_E_Lara 👍🏻🤗
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Actions speaks louder than words. You know like those christian supremacists, "If you don't believe in God, it's fine because you're not obligated to but you're just evil and should be in hell" That kind of guilt tripping tactic and I know too well.
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@Aiko_E_Lara no one has to believe what I believe. They can feel free to skip by my opinion
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Of course no one has to believe in what you believe but you're not in a position to guilt trip or judge anyone who don't think the same way you do.
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@Aiko_E_Lara I'm judging the same people that judge/bully single moms. They need a taste of their own shit
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"The only men that would be turned off by it are the ones that know they are not good enough to be a male role model for the child. Its a very big red flag if men are like this so stay away from those saying this. They most likely wouldn't be good partners in a relationship either.
Find the good ones they are out there. I've heard a statistic that single moms are 10% more likely to find their true love then regular single women since they know what they are looking for from a man." <--- where exactly are you specifying it's those men you're actually talking about? You're talking about men not "those men"
And it same goes for women who bullies men for just having that kind of preference. That ''you're not a real man if you dont want a single mom'' is their go to response after getting rejected for that.
So in my case, I'm only a 5'7 man who have long hair. And a woman just say they only wanna date guys who's a 6 footer with short hair and my go to response would be like "You're so shallow, women are shallow and those who don't date short guys with long hair are just a red flag. I mean it's ok to date tall guys but you're still a red flag and that's not stopping me" Should I be surprised if a bunch of people would just say I'm an incel for trying to shame women for that? I shouldn't be and that's not suppose to affect me and I know to well what incels are.
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Women bullying short men, justifying. Men bullying single moms, also justifiable. Anyone bullying anyone for having a preference is not different and should be justifiable either
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*justifiable
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@Aiko_E_Lara you aren't getting my reasoning on this lol but it's okay. I'm sure lots of men won't get it.
Also your talking about yourself in that situation. For this I'm not talking about myself since I'm not a single mom/I don't date men/I wouldn't date anyone if I became single. Like I said earlier I'm speaking for other women to avoid them getting hit with mean comments about something personal. - +1 y
@Aiko_E_Lara I don't think it's okay for anyone to bully a man over his height
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And you're not even getting how you are so surprised by anyone against your opinion which is why my analogy like talking about myself or even if i am talking about nobody wanting to date disabled men acting like you do what actually make them sound in titled. Yes it's not ok to bully a man over it height, it's not ok to bully a single mother and it shouldn't also be ok to bully anyone having that preference. The asker is asking if men get turned off by single mother's not asking if do men bully single mothers so it's more like you are not getting the question
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And if you think having preferences or just getting turned off is considered bullying then you're the problem here
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@Aiko_E_Lara preferences are shallow and can contribute to bullying. And sure could literally care less if I'm the problem
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Something can doesn't mean it will. Someone owning a gun can result to terrorism or school shooting but it doesn't mean it will. Abortion can also lead to more prostitution/carelessness but also doesn't mean it will. Learn the difference.
If preferences are shallow, everybody has preferences and if everybody are shallow, you could be the problem.
Also this, if someone who is really genuine and really caring, a gentleman and that being the main reason why he is successful in relationship and in his life, only he doesn't like to date single moms and now you would consider him shallow and a bad person for that. You dont even realize how that alone can actually make you even more shallow than anyone having preferences. - +1 y
@Aiko_E_Lara a real kind caring man would date for love and not turn down women for other reasons (including kids). People that don't date for love literally are the reason why the dating scene is so messy now a days. It's not only hurting them but everyone else around them.
And tbh being alone is always a better option then allowing bad people into your life - +1 y
There is a reason why someone love someone and someone don't like someone and that's just what makes everyone human. True love still comes with the reasonings why is that person is your true love it is just like why you love your husband and not someone else. You can't just say love just happens because there's a reason for everything.
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What about if he love her and oneof the reason is because she's not a single woman? It's also not different if he loves her because he is not a transgender. Everything has motives if you just set your emotions aside
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If i say i prefer women to bitches, that's also preference you know. And if my girlfriend ask such silly question like ''if i'm a bitch would you still love me?'' If she is serious then i would just boldly say no. The reason why is because her is because she isn't one. Thats not shallow, that's being true to yourself. You are trying to suppress anyone's preferences by not validating them which will lead into an unhappy relationship as they date someone who they dont even love.
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@Aiko_E_Lara even if someone's finds a person that meets all their preferences that doesn't make it true unconditional love tho.
I do personally believe that love just happens without much control like at least that's what I've experienced since I open myself up to it. a lot of people aren't open so they could never relate to that. - +1 y
@Aiko_E_Lara all women are bitches at certain times so that'd be impossible. Reason why the love should be unconditional
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And you're acting like people can't have multiple preferences. Let's say if someone date her because she isn't a single mom and that's the only reason why he is dating her then yes that would be shallow but there are many other reasons why he is dating her and her not being a single mom is one of them. So yes people have different criteria on what make someone their type. You cannot explain how unconditional love happens when it comes to just meeting someone because in every relationships, they all started out as strangers. So if it's unconditional love you say like no reason then you should just be loving every strangers. Every stranger should just be your boyfriend or girlfriend. That actually destroys the meaning of love to be honest. If you believe that love just happens without any control, is because you don't know the reason and you just don't bother to think because your brother get blinded by your emotions. I believe in everything happens for a reason but not all reasons are known
All women are bitches at certain points but that doesn't mean they are bitches by default. If someone i love is being bitchy, then i don't like it if theyre being bitchy. Doesn't mean i don't like her as a person. It's a very valid to not like it if you are treated poorly. But if there someone who is being a beach by default then i cannot love them ''unconditionally'' and that itself is a reasoning - +1 y
Also i would like to say that it is more of a deal breaker and it exists in all people.
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@Aiko_E_Lara obviously not loving every stranger lol that's not what I'm saying. More that two people can come together and love each other regardless of reasoning. Love is illogical so it's purely based on being blinded by emotions
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incorrect you both know that the child is possible, the man has just as much right as its half his genetics you are just carrying it.
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@Pistolshrimp men don't have rights over someone else's body. They are jealous that they are not able to carry life/have a say in it. It's a gift that only women have been granted
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It's not your body you are destroying a child that resides inside your body there is a difference. You claim to believe men shouldn't have rights over their child but I bet you expect the man to pay child support and be in that child's life you are a sad feminist nazi and your attempt to shut mens sexual rights down shows you dont care about equality women like you are murders and that's a fact.
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@Pistolshrimp men should have to pay because at that point the child is already born. And no I don't believe in equality. Nothing in life is equal lol.
I'd never get a abortion but I support women that do - +1 y
@Pistolshrimp why do you think I'm a femi nazi? I'm a traditional woman
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Not if it wasn't his choice. If you believe that women can choose to kill a man's child without his consent the a man can choose to abandon them without yours you can't have it both ways sorry nazi
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You are not a traditional woman at all. You claim women are the only ones who create life. Good luck doing that without the mans sperm. It's his child as much as it is yours the moment its conception starts. This is proven with a simple DNA test. A traditional woman listens and respects her SOs wishes just as he does for her. You are so far from a traditional woman its delusions your whole life. Too absorbed with feminist culture and propaganda you can't even see your man as an equal or your partner in life and creation. You dictate others rights and claim superiority over the opposite sex and try to promote the killing of the unborn. You fit the description of a Hitler worshiper taking their anger out on another and degrading their human rights. So yes you are a nazi I feel bad for the people who have to interact with you on a day to day basis.
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You yourself just said love is unconditional and it's not about preferences so there for if your love is not someone you actually prefer, you wouldn't really choose a certain person. Even the reasoning because you love that person can be considered a preference. There is a reason behind it and you just don't know why. If you love a certain person, you were once strangers and it's not automatic. That's why there is like an interview during dates to get to know each other to see if you are a perfect match. You don't just see a person then automatically get married like it doesn't matter who it is.
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Just like saying loving your child is unconditional, when it actually is in a sense. If you love your children, it's because they are your children and that's a reasoning. Also because they could be a resemblance to you, you've known them since birth, you've seen them grown-up etc. Which is why you love them. In situations where if someone has to save a random kid or save their own kid, most of the time they would save their own kid because they prefer their own children.
Also the rest of what i said still stands - +1 y
@Aiko_E_Lara unconditional love in a relationship is much different then any other type of love including kids/family/friends/anyone else so you are right about that.
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@Pistolshrimp if you knew my life it's pretty obvious that I'm traditional lol. And my husband agrees with me that women are the creators of life so no issue on that
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Exactly different and if you agree, you ate proving my point. ''Unconditional'' love in relationship is much less ''unconditional'' than loving your kids. It's because every relationship started out as strangers. The rest of what i said still stands however
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@Aiko_E_Lara it's not less. It's just different because it's a relationship it should be stronger type of unconditional. And yes strangers but even friends are strangers before meeting but that type of love isn't like a dating relationship love
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Your husband is probably terrified you'll emasculate him when he's sleeping because you're a nazi of he won't argue
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@Pistolshrimp um what do you mean by that? I don't hurt anyone while they are sleeping especially my spouse.
He has no need to fight since we just simply share the same opinion on that - +1 y
It has got bugger all to do with it. I mean why should we bring up someones elses kid, and we will never be put first in that relationship. Besides we will be undermined when it comes to discipline of the kid.
Why is it you are always criticizing and slating men for having preferences when it comes to women. It is sexist and misandry, we are entitled to our preferences. I can just imagine the reaction if we slate women for their preferences, we just get verbal abuse and labelled incels. - +1 y
@Spongebobssocks My sentiments exaclty,
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@Pistolshrimp fantastic response
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@Apple1996 women who abort are just selfish and it is also a mans right to pick and choose as he sees fit.
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@Apple1996 it is utter bullshit that they are the most vulnerable in society, are the old no, are they disabled no, bullshit are they vulnerable.
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@Apple1996 and if we are disgusting then you are disgusting for rejecting men because of their appearance or disability
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@Aiko_E_Lara You are quite right she is full of hypocrisies
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@DarkLegacy you don't think kids and mothers that have no provider/protector are vulnerable? Literally by nature that's the most vulnerable time a person could have in their lives even with a partner and especially without one
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@DarkLegacy I wouldn't reject a man for those things
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@Apple1996 yes they are single because they rejected the good guys for the bad guys hence why they are single mums and that is even more reason why good guys should reject them.
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@DarkLegacy it's impossible to tell how a man will be as a father before he becomes a father. If he already had kids and was a deadbeat then yeah that's the only time I'd say that is on the fault of a woman choosing.
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@Aiko_E_Lara Very good points you made on everything
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Again it's still cannot be unconditional if there are reasons why. Not everybody feels love the same way you do. If you think love is blind or if you really chose to be blind with love, maybe just speak for yourself because everybody have different motivations and their life and that includes the relationships.
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@DarkLegacy thanks! That's what i do
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@DarkLegacy 100% darklegacy, women love to say that you aren't "man enough" and demean you when they themselves would be thrown into a rage if you said they werent "woman enough" and the incel label is thrown around everywhere because women think they should own the right to sex. its 100% misandry and wrong. women also fail to realize men are just as vulnerable and capable of having terrible sexual experiences that have traumatized them just as much as women can. I've seen several posts on here talking about rape and mens perpetuation of this but never anything about the female predators that get away with this everyday because men are too ashamed to admit they were sexually abused. many of us who have been are permenantly scared physically and emotionally. when i was 21 as a christian male i was taught to wait until marriage, i told my SO at the time and she assured me this was fine. It was not she waited until i was asleep one night a few months into our relationship and straddled me during an intense nocturnal erection. she did so without my consent and when i woke up i panic'd and went to push her off and he leaned forward hard to stop me which resulted in a penile fracture. I have had erectile dysfunction problems ever since and when discussing this with other women after the fact I've been ridiculed and put down because "I obviously have mental issues and werent man enough to go along with the encounter". being labled and incel because of my injury when there is literally no reason the injury should have occured and i did not consent to being abused. and then you get women like this who insist you deal with their crap or you aren't good enough. imagine the backlash you would get if you treated a woman who had this experience the same way.
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@Pistolshrimp Shit mate, what a bitch, society lets women get away with murder
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@DarkLegacy right its fucked up.
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I would also like to mention that people who are blinded by love are more prone to getting abused because they just can't let go of their abusive partner because they love them ''regardless''. Not being true to themselves because they invalidate their true feelings towards their abusive partners. They judge themselve thinking theyre being ''shallow'' for truly disliking something in a person making them people pleasers. She's just lucky she doesn't have an abusive husband to take advantage of it.
''I love you even if your an abusive asshole''
''i love you even if youve broken my bones''
''i would be a shallow person if i choose a good boy instead because apparently preferences are bullshit''
Basically ''unconditionally'' loving a stranger to a hasty relationship
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@Pistolshrimp omg very sorry to hear about that 😥 what she did was not right. Partners always need consent before doing anything to each other.
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@Aiko_E_Lara in the case of abuse or any dangerous situation love is not worth it especially for safety reasons. Not at all saying to stay with abusers
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Then that would make the love conditional. Meaning to love someone IF they are not assholes or bitches. By agreeing with me, you're now starting to contradict yourself about preferences now.
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@Aiko_E_Lara I don't see being a bitch or asshole as a reason to not love someone. More like actual danger issues then it's best to walk away for safety even if you still love that person
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Just stop with the pathetic attempts to shame men for not wanting baby mommas.
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@DextroShade I'm shaming people that deserve to be shamed
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I'm talking about love as in relationship not because you sympathize and also this, if you love as in you want to be in a relationship with someone because you sympathize them, that is another reasoning which makes that love conditional. If you are motivated to sympathize someone then that is a motive. Also for your information men hold don't prefer single moms are walking away for safety that doesn't mean they don't respect them as a person. But you just like to see just because a man doesn't like to date a single mom, you assume they're being disrespectful. If you're shimming people that deserve to be shame then you should be shaming yourself for making such assumptions
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its fine, I've learned to talk about and gotten over the shame i felt about what happened to me. i just wish people would understand and realize that men are also vulnerable. and noone deserves to be shamed especially for something as silly as preference in your mate selection or religious views on sex.
7.2K opinions shared on Relationships topic. Hugely, no matter what the cheerleaders for single moms say
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+1 yNo we are not but the stats don't lie in this regard. Parents will default to parents for a relationship every time. Most times they go back to exes, rarely do they find another compatible parent to date. Single people without kids will always feel second place, sometimes third or more when trying to steal personal time away from kids.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yApple1996 is an idiot. I like how a lot of women call out men, that were the scum of the earth for having standards because we won’t date single mothers or obese women, etc. There’s a lot of men just like there’s women who won’t date single parents. It’s not a complete turn off, but a lot more obstacles to maneuver through that could potentially chase him away. There are some men who can’t have children who are ok w dating a single mother. Maybe he’s already had children of his own so he’s ok w it, or he had a step father growing up who was good to him. I’ve been w my girl for 14 years, she was a single mother. Complicated situation when dealing w single parents. You’re always competing w the children for time as they will always come first. So if you’re not up for that find someone w no children. She can’t always just get up to leave on a random trip. Dad may still be around, he may be a good dad or a complete tool. She doesn’t want you to discipline the children but expects you to protect them all when things happen. It’s just too much. If I had the info I have now when I first met her chances are we wouldn’t be together.
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Opinion Owner+1 y@Apple1996 no you’re not speaking the truth. Sad that you think men can’t have preferences but I’m sure you have all kind of requirements for men as far as who you’ll date. Too many women can’t accept the truth so they tell each other lies about how she’s too good for him, or she’s a perfect 10 at 200+ pounds. You’re doing her a disservice by not being honest, because when reality hits she’s going to wonder why all these men don’t see her the way all her friends built her up to be. Stop feeding each other bs
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The only requirements I have for a man is to be a decent person. And why would I stop empowering women? Even women that are 200+ pounds or whatever can find a man. Men on the other hand tho have more trouble dating so its really their issues for having preferences. Your just projecting and it's obvious
Opinion Owner+1 y@Apple1996 that’s not empowerment, you’re setting them up for failure. But believe what you want to believe.
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@Apple1996 I'm not even going to respond to your take because I've seen plenty like it. You have PLENTY OF TIME to respond to all the people who thought your take was ridiculous, which absolutely reinforces why they were right in the first place. Go find something better to do lady.
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@Datboi65 something better then speaking up for women and kids? Lol okay I don't mind being ridiculous and speaking up for them ever especially when a lot of people in the comments are full of hate. I'd rather be a outlier and speak the truth than join a group that think it's acceptable to hate on the most vulnerable people in our society
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@Apple1996 I'm sure you know this is the internet, and you don't know any of these people. You're gonna go on to your job/uni/grad school/ whatever you're doing and they will go on with their day. You're not some kind of savior or Saint for "women and children" by arguing online with people expressing their opinion over a question that was asked specifically towards them. I don't think ONE MAN would have any problem with women being asked "are you turned off by broke men?" When that question is asked towards women. You're not the subject here, sorry not sorry. Grow up and let it go.
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@Datboi65 I don't need to know these people to make a difference. Being a Saint is not what I'm trying to accomplish here. Just wanting people to be decent/kind towards mothers/kids. We live in a world thats extremely anti mothers and kids. It's honestly disgusting.
And I can probably bring more light on a woman's perspective about this topic then others here since I myself am a mom. This question was not limited to only men. Asker wanted both sides - +1 y
@Apple1996 The question was specific: "are men really turned off by single moms?" That was not a question to women, it was a question to men. If a man tried to answer a question that was directed to women, he will be slandered and rightfully so. Also, nobody was attacking the kids here. You're making it seem like this world "hates mothers and kids". People said they didn't want to take the responsibility of raising another man's child, that's it. You don't have to agree with it, that's your right. What's not your right is to spread misinformation about what everyone was saying to make them seem as some sort of villains when that's not what they said.
Finally, I do pay attention and I will give you credit you didn't randomly go after anyone who didn't tag your name, but at some point you will have to put the sword down and chill. It's a hot summer day, go have some lemonade. You don't have to see this discussion as the be-all-or-end-all, I see this website as nothing more than twitter where crazy people talk about crazy shit. Trust me when I tell you I have more on my plate than arguing with an online stranger, take that advice and you'll be less stressed out. - +1 y
@Datboi65 if this question was only for men then it would have been limited to only men. Which it's not so am allowed to freely add my opinions.
And wtf who goes out on a hot summer day? It sure ain't me i hate this weather. I come on here to get less stressed being able to debate with randoms online is fun
Opinion Owner+1 y@Datboi65 couldn’t agree more. No one is hating on children. No where did I say I hated single mothers, it’s a choice, a preference that men as well as women have or don’t have. The problem is she’s caught up in her feelings. I said myself I’ve been w a single mother for 14 years. Women want the truth but they don’t like it when they’re told a something that doesn’t align w what they think is the truth. So they turn to other women who reinforce what they’re thinking. Why even ask men our opinions if you’re just going to push back against how we feel. Amazing feminist argue they want equality, to be able to make their own choices but men are condemned for disagreeing, for having their own thoughts. But you’re right a lot of women won’t mess w a dude who’s broke.
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yNot At All, Anyone Who Is Turned Off By Single Mom’s Is Shallow… As A Single Dad With Sole Custody Of Both Kids, I Went Through The Same Thing Single Mom’s Go Through, But Worse… My Daughter’s Friends Parents And Single Mom’s Would Not Allow Their Daughter To Come Over Or Have Sleep Overs Because I Am A Single Dad, Because “Single Dad’s Are Child Molesters”… They Said, Your Mom Has To Be There, Can You Call Her? No My Mom Abandoned Me And My Brother On His 6TH Birthday, I Was 3 And Have No Memory Of Her, She Never Calls Or Writes, No Gifts From Her On Christmas Or Birthdays… And That Story Didn’t Help… One Woman I Tried Dating At One Point Asked Me if I Can Send My Kids To Someone Else, Because She Doesn’t Want To Raise Someone Elses Kids… I Never Asked Her To Raise My Kids, Or Anyone Else… Women Can Be Just As Bad Or Worse... When My Daughter Was 17 Almost 18, Her Friends Mom Did The Same Thing The Other Single Mothers Did When She Was Little, No Sleep Overs, Because Your Dad Has Custody… She Told Her Men Are Child Molesters… My Daughter Being Well Educated And Knows Our Society, Said, "So Are Women"… “There Are Women Teachers Molesting Their Male Students, Aunts Are Child Molesters, So Are Female Neighbors And Family Friends… My Dad Is A Good Dad, He Raised Me And My Brother On His Own, I Have Never Had A Mom, He Is Not A Child Molester”… The Mom Was Speechless And Said Nothing... Stop Judging Single Mom’s And Dad’s, We’re Doing Our Best To Raise Our Children, We’re Not Perfect, We’re Doing The Best We Can With What We Have…
00 Reply1.4K opinions shared on Relationships topic. No, but there are more issue dating a single mom than just a single woman.
First, you'll always be second to her, never a priority, and often that means you'll see her only when she doesn't have the kids. Considering how much more often women get child custody, that means very little time for you to build a relationship.
Second, it can be emotionally hard, as you can love the woman, but if you don't get along with the kids, it won't work. Or, you get along well with the kids but it doesn't work with the woman, and then you can't see them anymore, which is pretty sad.
And third, you'll never be the dad. You'll always be the woman's boyfriend, even if you live together, and you won't have any right to treat the kids as your own, whether it's for love, or discipline. Even the real dad has more right than you on this.
Basically, dating a single mom is being third. Kids, then real dad, and then you.
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No hell no if you got a kid kick rocks plain and simple trashy
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It's as simple as this woman has a brain she knows there is a future one day you're gonna be 50 do you really want to be a single mom lol stop fucking make better choice's or we look at you like you ain't shit I'm sorry but it's the truth it's trashy then what happens if you sleep with a single man and he sees your stretch marks naked id leave you right there with no reasons at all it's just not worth a man's time your kid might be a serial killer and your baby daddy might be a meth head BYE BYE
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I read on so many POF accounts of single mums them saying 'my kids come first and always will and if you can;t accept that then move on'. Does that answer your question @shy_siren
+1 yToo many dudes can’t handle not being the center of a woman’s attention. He wants all of her.
A mothers child is the center of her attention. Until her and her children become older and the children become more independent of her. Then mom will have more time for herself.
There is a phenomenon known as being “Touched Out” amongst mothers with newborns. That newborn needs so much of mom’s physical contact and is always grabbing at mom, mom just gets to a point she is repulsed by being touched by anyone. Husband, their older children, friends, family and boyfriends.
Now some unstable mothers (Susan Smith), will drown their children and blame it on carjackers, because the men they are with don’t want a woman with kids. The unstable mothers is too afraid of losing that same man.14 Reply- +1 y
Then mom needs to make sure that dude intends on sticking around. If a single mother’s child becomes attached to a father figure the child will suffer.
The mother needs to decide if the new boyfriend is going to have any disciplinary decisions. Also, an older child can become very jealous of a mother’s boyfriend and cause problems for the new man.
I was 30, my ex was a 42 year old single mother of two kids over 18 at the time. I married her anyway. - +1 y
This actually isn't a worry for me, as I only go for women who can't get enough endless affection (the type to crave needy pets and an affectionate spouse), I refuse to date single moms because I'm not interested in being a dad, putting up with another guy in the mix, or having no idea if I'm just another mistake or not to her.
I don't need to be the only one she gets attention from, but I do need to be the only man she gets it from in a relationship/sexual context, and I need to know she's 100% sure it's permanent, and with single moms, you can never be sure. - +1 y
There is nothing wrong with us wanting to be put first in a relationship first
504 opinions shared on Relationships topic. Depends on what we mean by "turned off"
Sexually I'd say it's irrelevant, a man can be physically into a woman who's given birth before.
As far as relationships go absolutely.
I won't even sugar coat it, men don't just at the opportunity to raise someone else's kid, some would do it but only because they're desperate to settle down with someone and don't wanna be single again after having met the mom.
I'm not saying this to discourage single moms but to discourage younger girls from going out getting knocked up by a bum who won't stick around and thinking all will be good.
I dated a single mom for a while she was the most miserable person I ever met. An amazing woman, but the ammount of regret she had made it impossible for her to make the most of life10 Reply- 1.8K opinions shared on Relationships topic.
+1 yYep, definitely a dealbreaker and red flag.
If she can't choose the right partner before having sex, there is no way to verify that she actually loves me.
I could be just another mistake, and I won't know until she dumps me later on, and if she's willing to hump mistakes, and she gets pregnant again, I'm stuck dealing with her even after the breakup (because of our kid existing), and I REFUSE to stay in contact with any ex for any reason, so thats a firm no.
Women who make sure it's the right guy before having sex, are more certain of both what/who they want, and how to tell if a guy is actually that kind of person. If she's an attractive virgin in her late 20s-40s, and wants to have sex with me, I know she's serious about commiting and making sure she is picking the right guy.
Also no self respecting guy wants his wife's ex around, and expecting us to raise his kid is just insulting. I also don't want children at all, so there's that.20 Reply - 4.2K opinions shared on Relationships topic.
+1 yI know in my country the guys I've had this discussion with has expressed their distaste for taking single mothers because they don't like the idea of raising or spending money on another man's child. That's not to say that all are like that. If you want better luck, it's best to target men who have kids as well but are looking to make a serious commitment to you (like marriage) and not just get you pregnant in order to be with you (, which is the case I've seen with some in my country). So I won't say all hope is lost and sometimes there is a rare chance you may actually run into a guy who has no kids but can love yours as his own.
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+1 yWell after I split from my kids father I was set on staying single. I was 34 years old with 2 girls, unable to have any more due to medical reasons. I had no time to date so went on tinder for hook ups. That's how I met my boyfriend. He was a hookup. A 36 Yr old gorgeous bachelor with no kids, a good job and a ton of friends... he could have any woman. He for some reason wanted more and convinced me to try another relationship... and here we are 2 years later and very happy. Mu kids love him. Their dad is a good dad and is heavily involved. Free babysitter! My boyfriend takes us out, treats us, looks after us but he won't ever gey too involved with "dad" things. Such as parents evening etc.
He is sees me 1st as a woman, not as a mum. He's not insecure or immature like most men so he doesn't see it as bringing up another man's kids. He's there friend not daddy no2.
So there are good men out there for us single mums
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+1 yIt does take a special kind of man to take on another person's child, it doesn't mean all men should as it is a huge financial responsibility, however with that being said most younger men with less life experience won't want to take on that responsibility, it takes a lot of maturity too.
Being a single mom isn't a 'dirty' thing. Many reasons for why we are single moms. Mine is that my daughters dad was abusive and used drugs. I didn't know this when i met him and our daughter wasn't planned so I had to leave for the safety of my child and the dating world wasn't nice to me but I did meet a man that has taken on the 'father' role and stood up to that plate because another man didn't and I love and respect him for that. Men shouldn't just judge why a mom is single, trust me its a tough job so if we choose to be single its because at the time it was whats best for our children.00 Reply- 505 opinions shared on Relationships topic.
+1 yCan't speak for your average man - I think most men on GaG would be the type to (grossly and wrongly) think of single moms as "used goods".
But for me, it's not a turnoff, really. It's an irreconcilable difference.
I don't want kids and don't want to be a mother. It would be really unfair and disgusting of me to force myself into a relationship with a mother just to be unhappy. And that would make her and her kid unhappy, which isn't the goal.
I'd be friends. Hell, I'd be friends with benefits, but I wouldn't want to stop her and her kid from finding someone who will love them as a family, as they deserve.00 Reply
+1 yHonestly I'm not at all turned off by single moms. Nevertheless, the real practicla problem remains the children's reactions, which can make a hell of their mother's and her partner's lifes, often because of the memories they have of their biological father. In conclusion I dare to state that if the guy succeeds in being accepted by the kids, the mom won't be the problem ;0)
Keep in mind that the mom's position is difficult when she has to choose between her children and her partner, and I bet that generally the children will win...
00 ReplyI think it depends on the age of the kids and parent. A toddler and younger is likely a big turn off, a young mother is aswell because it shows poor life choices. A guy and girl in their 30s won't be a big deal if the kid is like 5 for most.
After that it really depends on how you handle the relationships and merge them together over time. Lots don't work out, because after moving in or getting close the new guy is expected to act like a father without given the same abilities to punish the kid without the mother getting mad, etc...00 ReplyMost are. And they are so fucking rude about it too. Ok, I get they have a preference but why bully and insult single moms like that? Good thing they’re showing their true colors because no mom would want someone like that around their kid (s) anyway.
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And it same goes for women who bullies men for just having that kind of preference. That ''you're not a real man if you dont want a single mom'' is their go to response after getting rejected for that
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Most people go about their business. I can guarantee you it's verrrrrryyyy few guys outside of the online world who would randomly walk up to a single mom and tell her that they would never date her. I don't see that scenario happening. We mostly like to keep our opinions for ourselves, unless we are specifically asked like the OP in this post ASKED us for our input, and we gave our answer. Now my question to women is the following: if you already know the answer and find it offensive, why even ask the question? That part I can never understand.
+1 yNo most men love single mom (some just for sex). being a single mom just make life harder. The longer a man wait the more girl he know will have a kid. To a point where if he want to date at all he have go out with a single mom.
There a lot that come along with that. It ok but it all about if he want it or not. Some guys want that and some guys love that and some do not. It all about what a person want to have in his life.
why not one say anything about single dads?
I get moms need love to.
I would date a a single mom but the one I know want be single and have a friends with benefits thing.
I want someone be with for the rest of my life I want care about her but she not want me to. I think she happy I do care about her.
She likes dating a lot of guys.
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+1 yYes, men are inherently turned off by single moms for both biological and practical reasons. Biologically it is a bad move for a male to invest his effort and resources into another's offspring which is why male lions kill the cubs when they take over a pride. Practically it is a very bad deal for a man because they will be expected to provide for a kid who he has no authority over and cannot discipline. He will likely have to deal with the baby daddy and the drama that entails. Also will always be the woman's second priority at best, more likely he will be below the child, the mother, and the baby daddy. Finally, if he does form a bond with the child and the woman leaves he will not have any rights to that child at all. Conversely there have been cases where the men have also had to pay child support after the relationship ends. If he's a single dad it can work as a blended family, but childless men are wise to avoid dealing with single mothers for anything beyond bedroom fun.
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+1 yYep, because when dating a mother the child is part of the package deal, even if the mother thinks otherwise. When dating a mother, you need to understand that the kid comes first and raising a kid may mean dates and intimacy time are rare. Whether the mother thinks so or not, you will be part of that kids life, because you are with the mother. You can not date a mother and not interact with her kid.
It's a big responsibility right from the moment you date the mother, and not a lot of guys are ready for that, nor the sacrifices it brings.10 Reply My kids are adults and all have good careers and I've tried to date single moms in the past and they all had bratty kids. A couple times 1 parent was trying to buy the love of the kid so these kids were just too spoiled. Nothing against the moms for me but if it's a package deal, I'm out.
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+1 ySexually? - No. Can still be hot.
Relationship-wise.. uuhm yeah.
Mostly. Or just much higher standards and require a level of maturity from both men and women and a mutual understanding that is mostly seen with people in their 40s or above.20 Reply- 3.1K opinions shared on Relationships topic.
+1 yNot true… depends on dude… his training, experiences and emotional makeup
Its a unique calling to be willing to love another woman and mans kids.
I was turned off earlier in life pre christ. After christ i had much more heart to give and share.20 Reply - 3.6K opinions shared on Relationships topic.
+1 yThat would depend on the single mom.
The hookup single mom or the ex boyfriend single mom are totally different from the widow single mom who got married then had children.
Single moms just present a big burden to deal with.
For one the children aren't the man she will be with and that alone come with a lot of baggage.
Not to be mean but yes overall single moms are a turn off for most men because there's no upside to being with a single mom if she has small kids.
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+1 yMost single and childess men are turned off by single moms.
Why would a man want to take on another mans responsibility?
Now if the guy has kids already... that might be a different story. It all depends. Men know that single moms are a package deal situation. He has to accept a woman AND her kids. Thats a lot. Not to mention the potential drama from an ex.10 Reply1.5K opinions shared on Relationships topic. No, not at all. As a longtime cuckold who is never allowed to have any penetrative sex whatsoever, if she already has a child, that makes it easier for her to keep me sexually frustrated and not have to worry about who's going to get her pregnant, if she wants a child.
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 ySingle moms are only good for hitting and quitting. Why would a man agree to take care of another man’s children. A kid is a financial commitment regardless if dad is involved. I’d rather have my “firsts” with a first time mom. For example first time parents, first time family photo, etc. You get the idea. If dad is in the picture then your whole relationship depends on him. Meaning if he refuses to take the kids out of spite or if he goes away for a weekend your life is on hold and now you can’t just go out on date night like you had planned because mom has to take care of the kids.
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clever rhyme for the one nighter!!!
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Hitting and quitting, i like it
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+1 yI do not want a woman who has already given birth to some other man's child
I want us to be her focus and priority. If she has a kid then that is out the window.
I want single people, alone time with her not a ready made family.
Only if I were a single dad would I consider a mom. Single dads would be their best dating options.
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+1 yNot necessarily. However, "Ceteris Paribus" (all other things being equal), yes, absolutely.
That is, between two otherwise compatible women in terms of looks, intelligence, kindness, diligence, compassion, etc., the one without children will be preferable.00 Reply 1.1K opinions shared on Relationships topic. Look , there is nothing wrong with it , but it comes with massive challenges also , I've done it a few times , dependent how the relationship is going as to the role I will take with the child , with regard to participation. Just as many women would never consider single fathers ( of which I was one , difficult ) , many guys may exclude single mothers and thats fine too , you are taking on a lot.
Equal and opposite , is only fair , no difference.
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+1 yUsually only to guys with no kids.. When I was younger and childless I was like nah I will never date a guy with kids. Reason being you don't have any and you want to start a fresh family of your own not some broken thing.. lol But obviously if a single dad wouldn't date a single mom he is trash anyways lol
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@AmandaYVR Single moms are good for recreational use but to take the seriously is probably the worse thing a man can do for himself.
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@Vegasrunner You tagged me by accident, right.
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@AmandaYVR Yes, my apologies
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@Vegasrunner LMFAO
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No man is trash for his preferences otherwise women are
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@DarkLegacy If a single dad wouldn't date a single mom he is a hypocrite and trash..
Anyone else it is their choice because I already stated if you don't have something broken why would you want broken.. - +1 y
@Vegasrunner Good for you! Learn to reply :P
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@anemone978 women who slate mens relationship preferences are trash
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@DarkLegacy When you are hypocritical you usually are a shit person..
Why are you a single dad who only will date young ladies with no kids? If not STFU it has nothing to do with you lol - +1 y
@anemone978 i can say what i like, and im not a single dad
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@DarkLegacy Yeah so why you replying? I didn't say all guys are trash..
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@anemone978 It simply means the single dad has standards. You're mistake is believing that men and women are equal. Those same studies show that kids are exponentially more likely to stay out of trouble being raised by a single dad. If anything he's even less likely to be around single mom for fear of how the relationship may effect his own kid.
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@Vegasrunner Mmmhmm.. what studies? lol Not that is actually matters, its only my opinion you are free to have your own.. so go away :D
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@anemone978 Unless you're dating single moms my opinion is the only one that matters
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@Vegasrunner You are the one replying to my opinion.. so if yours matters go post it to the question.. not to me...
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@anemone978 I think I understand your confusion. You claimed "it's only your opinion" Well unless you date women your opinion is kind of irrelevant. It's easy always easy to create a criteria that someone else has to follow. At the end of the day I'm sure you agree that whether a man has kids or not the decision to not want single moms is ultimately his. (To save time please miss me w/ the it's also hers equality argument)
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@Vegasrunner Fair enough.. I don't really care lol
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@anemone978 if you didn;t care you would kept your mouth shut to begin with but you have been going on for a couple of days now
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@DarkLegacy I don't like faggots to have the last word over me.. so I always got to come back for more..
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That just proves that you do care and it is pathetic how women always insist on having the last word over men. Oh and you are homophobic to boot.
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@DarkLegacy Of course I am, didn't you already know?
I don't care about my opinion and your differing one I just care about winning. - +1 y
You just care about winning, you just need to grow up and there is no place in any society for anyone with prejudices
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And you have the audacity to complain about white guys being racist, you are worse
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@anemone978 It's unfortunate that you would spend your time ineptly debating a subject that you don't care about, however it does highlight how women make decisions based purely off how they feel at the time.
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@DarkLegacy lol you act like GAG has any affect on the real world. It is a bullshit community filled with losers, fake accounts, and sluts. I can say what I want because it doesn't actually effect anyone.. and if it does you are just pathetic. I am worse than a racist? lol give me a break..
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@Vegasrunner Yeah, like you said my opinions don't matter anyways since I don't think like the majority of other women. So who cares what I post.. I do things just to annoy or have fun not because I actually care.
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@anemone978 Well actually I said your opinion doesn't matter on this specific subject if you're not dating women. The reason you post is yours and not mine to judge. It doesn't annoy me at all, I fact the majority of the things women post on here only help me when I'm working w/ your men to teach them about female nature.
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@Vegasrunner Regardless of what the question is, on anything I post you always say my opinions don't matter, so why keep coming back to talk it isn't like I actually take what you say into consideration anyways...
And why act like you work with people I personally know? (your men) lol I am married and probably will stay that way until I die because I don't care anymore... - +1 y
@anemone978 You have to forgive me as I don't remember dialoging w/ you on any previous occasion and I certainly never claimed your opinion doesn't matter. My point is if you're not dating women it doesn't matter. The other part was a typo it should say working w/ young men to help them understand female behavior.
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Anemone978 you are pathetic and are you referring to yourself when you comment on the sites users.
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@anemone978 if you do not like it then leave, you say that about the sites users but here you are going toe to toe with them.
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@Vegasrunner Lmao I am sure you don't.. And yes you have the last discussion we had you said the same thing. Anyways have a good day.
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@DarkLegacy If I am pathetic why did you even bother to reply to me?
I come here to be mean that is it, who said i don't like it? :P I just don't respect the community..
Yeah people who come to attack me I will fight them.. and others I will put in their place, so they might learn something.. - +1 y
@anemone978 how sad coming here just to be mean, and if you think anyone will take any notice of you then you really think highly of yourself, you won't influence anyone. No one will be put in their place by the likes of you
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@DarkLegacy If I am sad you are even worse because you seem to notice me since anytime i post something you don't agree with you love to reply..
Many already have so what you on about? lol - +1 y
@anemone978 no they have not
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@anemone978 TY for sharing I have discussions w/ many women I only tend to remember the once that articulate sound valid points.
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@Vegasrunner That's nice.. again no one cares...
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@anemone978 Then why do you keep bringing it up?
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@Vegasrunner no reason..
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@anemone978 Ahh, so you're saying you can be u decisive and erractic?
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@Vegasrunner sure.. why not..
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@anemone978 TY for at least being honest about your deficiencies.
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@Vegasrunner Yup
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@anemone978 Would you mind if I use your dialog to educate some young men I mentor?
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@Vegasrunner go ahead..
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@anemone978 TY
+1 yHell yeah! I’m not gonna…
- Raise someone else’s kid
- Waste my time with a woman who doesn’t reciprocate the attention I give her
- Deal with a jealous ass loser
- Land on child support for a kid who isn’t mines
- Be with an irresponsible and reckless
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yOften yes like really I'm amazing and other single moms are so gorgeous 🥰.
It is their loss
Being bi I prefer dating other moms and they are way more wonderful smart and great in bed then guys or single women!
My daughter adores meeting her new friends of mommy's dates. Always excited to meet someone new!
Most are shy and those are the best cause in time they open up and it is amazing how wonderful and naughty they are.
10 Reply1.5K opinions shared on Relationships topic. There are certainly negatives. I wouldn't. At a point though women that are available to a guy most likely come attached with children so I imagine it is a given and if they have children then they can't complain much.
I have options so I wouldn't.00 Reply1.4K opinions shared on Relationships topic. I never was.
The biggest thing was how they go along with the ex.
Was there a constant battle, going to court all the time, the kids were being used as pawns for every little thing.
Then that was just too much drama.
I had a long term relationship with a woman that had 3 kids.
I got along fine with them.
There was a little drama which was to be expected.
It was just fine.
00 Reply1.1K opinions shared on Relationships topic. Not at all, but the thing is most single men want to have their own kids too and some single moms don’t want more kids.
I married a single mother of two with a third on the way. Then we had one as well. I raised them all as mine with no difference. That would not have happened if she wasn’t willing to have one with me too.10 Reply
+1 yYes we are, why should we bring up someones elses kid, and we will never be put first in that relationship. Besides we will be undermined when it comes to discipline of the kid. And furthermore most single mums are trying to settle down with guys they would have rejected when they were younger.
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I should have added in the situation when the guy wants kids but the single mum does not want anymore.
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+1 yI'm a single dad , & knew when I took the decision to bin my ex & take on full custody , I would have zero chance in the " dating " world. As I'm too content being single , I never plan to " date " anyway., Very few people want to be responsible for children that are not theirs , that's life & also evolutionary biology at work
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+1 yTo me it depends. For example, if she adopted a young relative rather than allow the child into the system, or is a faithful widow, it would not be an automatic "No." If she is the meme never married mom of four or more from multiple baby daddies, that is a hard pass.
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+1 ySo much guys elaborate how a single mom is baggage and a red flag. But gosh you guys, your attitudes are massive baggage and red flags that contribute to guys being kidless from their ex he had kids with.
I do enjoy irony and a good chuckle. Good question girl!12 Reply- +1 y
It is womens attitudes that are the read flag, fucking around with bad guys and getting pregnant or going with a known abuser just to rebel, and then trying to get the nice guy to look after their kid when they hit the wall.
Or women only going with muscular guys with tattoos ll up their arms
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+1 yWe're not "turned off" per se. Someone can become a single mom for a number of reasons. It's just that those guys looking for a serious relationship will be looking at the big picture and taking the prospect of becoming a stepdad into consideration. And a lot of us don't even know if we're ready to become a dad, let alone a stepdad.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yIt's a simple matter. No matter what attributes a single Mom has, there is a completely single woman somewhere that has either the same or more. Thus there is no logical reason for a man ever to date a single Mom over a woman that is completely single.
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+1 yI have dated single hot mamas before and I have to admit I like it. We did have to plan when we get frisky or work around to have fun so her kid didn’t walk in on us. I did get caught when I was with a single mom and daughter walk in on us while her mom was riding me and us both cumming.
00 ReplyMaybe it will change with age, but currently yes. At 22 I certainly am not looking to care for another man's children. Having kids is 100% one of my life goals, but I also want to already marry the woman and be financially stable before I have kids, not already have them be apart of the package deal. For me a woman already having kids is a deal breaker
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+1 yYes. Single moms are the most dangerous women. Because they are willing and prepared to pretend to be anything their partner wishes them to be so they can get into his wallet and bank account.
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Maybe you didn't, but a HUGE majority of single moms did, do and will be and that is Exactly why most men avoid moms with kids like a plague, because they know relationships with single moms are fake, they are not real, they are an illusion and it is just a matter of time before moms reveal their true colors and true intentions and start draining their bank accounts as if there is no tomorrow. A term for single moms being the most dangerous women, didn't come from me, but it is a world wide phenomena, that means there is a heavy truth behind that term.
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Women do tend to lie a lot to get what they want including denying the fact that they would do shitty things
Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yFor the 100th time, men don't dislike single moms per se. But you have to understand a single mom to a man is about as attractive as a homeless guy is to a woman. Single moms are bad gambles. Relationships are risk vs. Reward. And single moms are simply too much risk.
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100th time? This is the first time I've asked this. Anger much?
Opinion Owner+1 yNo hun I'm not angry at all. And you're forgiven. It's just this isn't the first time your kind has asked this. And since your kind is Notorious for asking this 100 times wanting the answer to change I'm letting you know upfront it won't.
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Lol my kind? You must be fun at parties. Hahaha.
Opinion Owner+1 yAnd it's become pretty clear why you're a SINGLE mother. You know instead of getting mad at your desirability you could try something novel and just work on being a decent person.
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I am a decent person. You don't know me at all.
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At least I can be open about who I am. You need to hide.
Opinion Owner+1 yDecent people don't ask these kinds of question. If you were a decent person you'd know that.
Opinion Owner+1 yYou're right I should just tell you who I am so you harass me. Good advice is good advice it doesn't matter if it's anonymous. You're immune to good advice which is why your predicament.
Anonymous(18-24)+1 yYes, because of the attitudes, not to mention the litany of obvious risks trailing behind them. I don't have time to get into all of it or of my own personal experiences in dozens of states, but I can just say I'd be a lot better off just flushing all my cash down the toilet, sucking down a bucketful of pills, heading straight to the nearest jail and start banging on the door, begging to be let in.💯
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The comments from men on this are classic
+1 yMen aren't turned off by single moms. Men are turned off by not being priority #1, being a walking ATM, having to deal with baby daddy drama, risking having to pay child support for a child that isn't even ours, emotional baggage, and being unable to discipline a child living under your own roof. A single mother is not inherently an undateable woman, but most single mothers choose to be undateable.
00 ReplyYes not because they're a single mum though. Its because they must be such an awful a person for a man to abandon his children to get away from her. Equally she'd have to be awful to leave her baby dad and deprive their child of a natural relationship with their father. Either way its not a good reflection on her.
00 ReplyI don't think that it's so much turned of as being cautious.
I think most guys are open to the idea.
But it can also be a sensitive situation and includes a lot of added considerations.
On the whole it's probably still okey for most guys.00 Replycoworkers of mine who are single moms say it is hard so they hook up a lot, not my style-- though im not a single parent but would have no issue dating a single parent as long as they have it together over there
00 Reply595 opinions shared on Relationships topic. Depends on the age of the children and if the sperm donor (s) are a pain in the ass. Meaning doing things to mess up any relationship that you might have.
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+1 yYes, the thing about a single mom most of the time is also that a single mom isn't really looking for a lover but a supporter.
21 Reply7.3K opinions shared on Relationships topic. When I was younger I was really repulsed by the idea. My best friend married a single mom. It really derailed his life. Now I think if her kids were older and she was a working mom I would be more receptive.
00 Reply407 opinions shared on Relationships topic. I'm gonna be direct with you. Yes, most men are turned off by that. They don't really wanna provide their time and resources to a child unless that child is his (unless he agrees to adoption, but that's another conversation.)
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+1 yHell yeah why would you even ask that question I wouldn't let her touch me. Make better choices in life if you're a single mom or dad just stay single don't date anybody without kids.
Maybe for practice that's about it maybe and that's if a man is dying desperately no offense just truth
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+1 yIf the kids are graduating high school, fine. I didn't have kids, for a reason. I'm not going to be their stand-in daddy. If she can handle all that then it's less of a turn off.
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yI can only speak for myself. And my answer is that if anything, I find single mothers MORE attractive, if they are a good mother with a well behaved young child. There are some absolutely gorgeous single mothers, their kid would have to be Damian to put me off lol
00 Reply603 opinions shared on Relationships topic. Last single mom destroyed my heart with a rejection, and so did the one before her.
Having children of your own from past relationship/marriage is not a red flag or a taboo. It is not a deal braker.02 Reply- 5.1K opinions shared on Relationships topic.
+1 yyou can never talk for "everyone" with this kind of question. tho i'd argue, if you had all the fun with making the child (ren) why should i take the sesponsibility for them without having had any of the fun of it?
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