What exactly is the difference between a 'simp' and being romantic/respectful?

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Lliam · Accepted Answer

“Simp is a slang term used to describe a person who is perceived as overly submissive or even desperate for the attention or affection of someone without receiving anything in return." A simp is a groveler who thinks he can buy a woman's affection.

I would say that guys who think they can get hot chicks by building movie star bods and being wealthy are also simps because they think that's all women care about. They know nothing about true affection. They are going to attract the wrong kind of women. All they care about are looks and material things.

It's completely different from being gentlemanly, romantic and respectful. A man who treats a woman with genuine respect and regard will not accept anything less in return. He is not desperate. He has self-esteem and confidence. He does not try to buy affection.

The lady-gentleman game makes women feel feminine and men feel masculine. She admires his masculinity, virility and charm, and he adores her beauty, femininity and charm. She voluntarily accedes to his manliness and that heightens the sexual attraction for them both.

So if they are genuinely attracted to each other and do things to show their affection, that's not simping.

There are guys who think doing anything for a woman - opening doors, paying for a measly date, being deferential - is simping. I suppose there are those these days who would consider traditional courtship simping.

Guys who think it's simping to treat a woman like a lady have issues. I think those guys are weak; afraid of being taken advantage of; and have a transactional attitude toward relationships. I suspect that they resent women in the same way that radical feminists resent men. They are not gentlemen. They use women but have no respect for them.

I know, I know. Someone is going to respond that it's all because of feminism. But those are the same guys who think they are at least owed a BJ if they pay for a date.

Miristheiss · Accepted Answer

A simp acts like a doormat. He pays for Onlyfans, he pays for strippers, he'll date sex workers. He puts women on pedestals and kisses women's asses and doesn't value himself at all and acts/lives like he's lucky she will even spend time with him. He does whatever the woman wants to do and doesn't lead. He doesn't have his own standards or boundaries. He'll accept bad behavior and won't put her in her place, enforce boundaries or leave. He'll accept anything she does and always take her back if they break up.

He isn't a strong man with high standards and strict boundaries. You can treat your girl right and do nice things for her if she is worthy of it and has earned it to a degree. He won't let himself be walked over and disrespected though. A strong man will call her out if she starts misbehaving or he'll leave the relationship if she crosses boundaries or steps out of line.

A strong romantic guy leads the relationship. He is romantic for the right type of woman and he treats her good... as long as she is treating her man right and being respectful.

With a simp, it doesn't matter how the woman treats the man, he'll kiss her butt no matter how good or how bad she is. He'll date trashy women. Strippers, prostitutes, a woman who posts sexy stuff on line, a woman who takes advantage of him, a woman who is selfish, hangs out with guys, wants to "open" the relationship. A simp will just stay with such woman and keep showering her with unearned praise and pay for everything and let her do whatever she wants. He doesn't want to rock the boat because he doesn't think he'll find anyone else.

PBandJ_Nerd · Accepted Answer

I found this on whether being a simp was good or bad, here's the answer it gave me:

"Being a simp is generally considered unhealthy or unattractive behavior. Simping is a slang insult for men who are seen as too attentive and submissive to women, especially out of a failed hope of winning some entitled sexual attention or activity from them. It is suggested that setting boundaries is a simple fix for this behavior."

I can say on the rest that romantic & respectful is when the person cares and loves the other. Respecting their boundaries, limitations, and whether they reciprocate their feelings or not. If they don't, then they move on, not stick around them. A simp would probably stick around and that's not being respectful at all. They'll literally put themselves on their knees & let themselves be walked on for that crush. Being submissive isn't a bad thing, but it is if you don't respect boundaries and let people walk on you (and can't give anything in return).

Laciejordan · Accepted Answer

To me, a simp is actually disrespectful to other men because they try so hard to gain the attention of women! I see it on here, with one guy in particular. They’ll actually mock, dismiss and disrespect another guys opinion, because they see it as being “disrespectful” to women. Then they act like they’re some type of knight in shining armor, fighting for the honor of all women. I definitely like being treated with respect and like a lady, when appropriate, but you don’t need to act like you need to act like some type of savior.

MrQun · Answer

For me personally a simp is someone (usually a man) that will go to great lengths to absolve someone (woman) of all agency and accountability. They will also put women on a pedestal, put out with their BS and give preferential treatment in an effort to score brownie points with said woman. These are the types of blokes that will believe and say things like:

1. Men should never hit women, even when it is clear that she is the violent aggressor.

2. Men should treat women like ladies (pay for dates) even though said woman is no where close to being lady like.

3. He will believe that women having an exorbitant list of standards for men is empowering, but men that have any standards for women are sexist.

4. When women are whining about their love life and how men are trash, instead of putting the blame on her (where it usually belongs) he will enable her delusions.

They are basically the type that will make all manner of excuses for women's entitlement and poor behaviour.

liggang · Answer

I think I have a different definition of simp from most. For me a simp is a man who can't get a girl, in addition to the rest of the traditional simp traits.

So a simp is the awkward nerd virgin incel (not internet incel, but regular incels like the 99% of males who probably never reproduced in human history kind of incel) who send female streamers money and pay for sexual services from women. He is basically a servant for women and whenever he gets the chance, he jumps at the opportunity to help any woman in need. He plays the hero but never has any sex because women don't fuck or date those kinds of guys.

He's like the beta male chimpanzee, who never gets any action but he brings the female who won't fuck him fruits and shit just so that she will smile at him one time.

Not that thats the only way chimpanzees work. Because in chimpanzee society the female is dominated by the alpha males, and often times the females sneak off to fuck the beta males.

In bonobo society however there is a strict no beta fucks rules. The females choose a few males who fuck. The rest are gay by necessity. Everyone knows bonobos have a lot of sex. What nobody realizes is bonobo society is female alphas. The female is the alpha. So the female chooses.

Female choice is extremely narrow in bonobo society. So in bonobo society the simps are all the betas who are gay, yet have no choice but to be nice to the females just in case they decide to elevate him to alpha status for some reason.

So a simp is basically any man who is pathetic with women and treats them like queens hoping someday to have some sex as a result of his generous actions.

I'm sure that was a trip to read, I'm sorry for being crazy. If you want to argue about it, just don't be mad ok? We can just have a calm discussion if you feel like you need to change the way I think.

V_Injector · Answer

"Simp" (Sucker Idolizing Mediocre Pussy) is just the modern version of a "fawn"... as in a guy fawning over some girl. I like the definition of a fawn a little better because it's like a baby deer getting played with by a mountain lion. As soon as she'd done playing with her food, she will destroy him.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/WOiTn7dSiKQ

Being respectful or just romantic is one thing that I'd place in a different category. Usually when the simp slur is used, you're describing a blue-pilled dude that is getting taken advantage of or is about to get taken advantage of. Like those dummies that spend all their money on a woman that doesn't even do what a hooker would do for him. They just get used. It could just be a dude being her "emotional tampon" and he sits there listening to her stupid problems because he thinks it's getting him closer to getting laid. That's a simp.

HawkPerception · Answer

Simps are basically guys that will do whatever they can to get a girl's attention and put them on a pedestal even though the girl gives no shits about them. They are the guys that used to hold the hot popular girls books in school a long time ago in an attempt to get closer with them. They are the types of guys that message girls on social media saying they're so beautiful even though they're one of many. They're the types of guys that will literally do anything a girl wants in order to get her attention. It's pathetic and it's not romantic and it will never give them any respect.

DoggyDude · Answer

So, I hadn't come across the term "simp" online until around 4 or 5 years back. It might have been about before but back then it was becoming prevelent.

The version I learned is:

Someone whos a fan-boy for someone (usually the opposite sex) they don't really know and always say positive stuff about them and gush their praises, regardless of the good or bad actions of the person they are simping for.

It's interesting to read the other takes here. I only ever encountered it towards, people online. I've never seen or encountered anyone describing people they met as simps or otherwise (though that might be that I'm not associating with people of a suitable age or demographic).

Anonymous · Answer

Simply put, it’s just a male version of “pick-me” there are not a lot of simps left in the wild as being a simp is a lot less acceptable than being a pick-me chick, but most simps are the ones paying for women’s OnlyFans and sitting in cam girls chats for hours spending hundreds of dollars on them. In real life though, most men do not white knight for women. I think every heterosexual man has a little “simp” in him, meaning easily swayed to favor a woman’s opinion or action simply because he is attracted to her.. for instance, at my gym, there’s a super hot girl there that when she walks past, she will literally make men move out of her way. I remember she asked a guy if it was fine to workout next to him and he offered her the entire gym bench he was working on, typical simping. Simps CAN get a girlfriend despite popular belief, they just don’t simp over the girl they have.

DextroShade · Answer

The difference is how the woman treats the man and if she deserves the good treatment he is giving her. If a woman is fit, feminine, friendly, cooperative, submissive, not a hoe, and is putting out for her man he is not a simp for treating her well.

If a woman is treating the guy like shit, taking advantage of him, or he isn't smashing and he going out of his way to be nice to her and investing his time and resources in her then he is a simp.

Also, any guy who spends money on OnlyFans or anything like that or really spends any amount on a woman who won't have sex with him he is a simp.

wiltingrosepetal · Answer

A simp is a man devotes his money, time and effort into a woman who doesn't even think about him. It's a parasocial relationship where the woman is famous, and will give him a little attention if he pays her enough. This is the most common in webcams, livestreams, and OnlyFans.

It's not simping to waste time and energy on a woman in your league, at your level. That's just being friendzoned. True simps are the guys spending their life savings so a pretty streamer can blow them a kiss 😃

The_Sexpert · Answer

Completely different  Main difference being that Simps have no self respect and also they act nice for personal benefits and not out of genuine care

Anonymous · Answer

Girl in bar: Would you like to buy me a drink?

Simp: Heck, yeah!

Girl: Awe, you're so sweet. Will you buy my boyfriend a drink, also.

Simp: Well, I'm kinda running out of money, and I kind of want a drink for myself.

Girl: Gee, I pegged you wrong. I thought you were a nice guy.

Simp: Okay, what's he drinking?

Girls LOVE simps.

JacobJordan · Answer

A simp can be treated horribly and still does the same things a woman could make it clear she has no intention of being with him and he would still do everything he is doing. A romantic and respectful individual will not tolerate disrespect and will stop everything and even end the relationship if the woman gets out of line

Ms_Facesitter · Answer

The Simp has little self respect and will do anything no matter how little he gets in return. Or if he gets nothing in return. Or toxicity. The simp is just that desperate for your attention that he doesn't care about him or herself, and only sees you for your good side and the good side you have is being put on a pedestal.

itsclearlynicholas · Answer

Can I ask a question? Is a simp a simpleton or a simple loser. I hope I'm not either. However I am rather dense and that I for one have learnt into my 20s the appropriate ways to treat people versus the bad habits I had when I was younger. A good example: how to accept people's lack of interest and how to accept people are either into you or they're not, and be humbled

Joshydavid25 · Answer

Simps are not being romantic and respectful.. They're being needy, and disrespectful to themselves.. A simp is mainly a male giving excessive, non reciprocated attention to a female.. Whereas romantic is two parties reciprocating the growing love for each other respectfully..

Unit1 · Answer

Apparently treating any girl good (also a girlfriend) makes them say this 4 letter word.

That word is used by idiots online to show their own immaturity. Add "cuck" to it too.

I found this fitting to this question: How guys turn into a "beta simp white knight" (or as MGTOW calls it: blue pilled)

Anonymous · Answer

A simp is someone who is needy, desperate for attention, or obsessed with someone when they only knew them for a short period of time and you don't know the person for who they actually are yet. Genuine respect and being romantic are respecting a woman's boundaries, doing nice things but not expecting anything in return, and actually getting know the girl and letting their love for them grow over time.

LiamJHayden · Answer

The theory is that a SIMP gives undeserved adoration to an unworthy woman. An extreme example would be treating a crack whore like she's a woman worthy of starting a family with.

The main problem in my opinion is that a lot of guys call it SIMPing to give common courtesy, or to give devotion to a faithful woman, who in their eyes cannot exist.

AaronKrieger · Answer

Anyone can be romantic and respectful, but a simp isn't being himself due to his lack of confidence. A normal person will still prioritize themselves and be vocal about their needs/wants, which is being himself.

Account · Answer

You can be romantic and respectful without allowing anyone to step on you or without acting desperate. I don't know why this needs further explanation, the line is pretty clear to me.

IMHO1000 · Answer

Simps have no values, or backbone nor can they set boundaries, with a woman. They don't have the balls for fear of losing the woman, which mean the woman can do anything they want (see other guys, etc) and the simp won't say or do a thing about it.

BoopBoopBeep · Answer

The man buys flowers for his girlfriend/wife/whatever as a indicator that he acknowledges her position of value. The simp does it for the low value woman.

David94358 · Answer

Simps are pathetic that have no chance.. they know it.. she knows it.. everyone knows it..

JHAYES317 · Answer

A simp is someone who knowingly puts way more energy into a relationship than the other person, especially concerning finances

aceleon · Answer

nothing same thing at it's core same thing as this is my right hand and this is not my left hand.

genericname85 · Answer

I would say being romantic and respectful turns into simp when the person it concerns already has expressed their disinterest and the efforts still continue.

Nikki1989 · Answer

Simps don't exist. You have nice and you have bad. End of story.

jahaims · Answer

Simps will be romantic etc. without anything in return. Aka let girls use them just so they can talk to one.

SotiCoto · Answer

Submissive behaviour, mostly. Acting like a sycophant.

Anonymous · Answer

The amount of ass kissing that's done. How much he puts the pussy on a pedestal.
Yesterday I encountered some guy who said he would eat some skinny woman's farts which was flat out gross to hear. Basically he was simping

Slim57 · Answer

A simp is going all out to try and win over a girl that shows zero interest back

Anonymous · Answer

Simp is an obvious desperate male with no game.
Romantic is naive low key simp who thinks fairy tails are real.

Both are inflate average girl's ego. And cause them to confuse a whole gender for having chronic chicks dependency.

laly520 · Answer

big difference

Anonymous · Answer

Simp is guys dropping everything for a woman who doesn't care about them hence weak men are simps

Anonymous · Answer

One is earned and deserved the other is not.

Billlewis · Answer

My goal is to be both, whenever possible;)

Yannae · Answer

A simp is a doormat. Their idol can do no wrong.

Anonymous · Answer

Simps are pathetic.

Anonymous · Answer

They are the same.

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