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Knowledge is power but knowledge gives hunger and reasoning. Tribal people live in jungle happily while metro city are unhappy though they posses car laptop house TV etc
Eating fruit or gaining knowledge was not the sin , but not listening to God's word was the sin.
But i thought god gave us free will
@GoodGuyGregGGG it was in small print, they probably didn't read the contract properly
As the King said to the bishop: "Keep them dumb, I'll keep them poor and pay your church"
Believers aren't supposed to know too much
Is this tree really exist? Or any mythology? I don't know anything about this.
Because in order to be religious you have to lack one thing: knowledge.
It wasn't a sin. It was God ordering them to not do something and they still did it.
Thats called a sin
Because when you trippin balls you dont think that logical
Because God forbade it. Here the point is not eating apple but disobeying God!
And also agree with Hispanic-Cool-Guy, about the name of the fruit. We don't know if it is apple or not.
If everything is as per God's will then God is responsible for everything and hence God is the one who committed the Sin and not Advance and Eve
I think he can change lives and happenings if he wants but it doesn't mean that he's responsible for everything. Of course we make decisions for our selves
Well it is written in the Bible that everything is God's will.
Gods will is different from human mind will, humans can chose to do what they want even if God says it is right or wrong. So God is not to be blame, we Adam and Eve failed to exercise our free will for the right purpose.
If everything is God's will, how do we have free will?
Free will is the freedom to decide which path to take God's path or the Devil's. God oversees everything so even if you chose the wrong things He will still at the end have the final say (He is the final Judge).
If everything is God's plan then everyone is doing exactly as the God wish
Gods will for us is good (which why He sent Jesus Christ to redeem us from our mistakes) but sometime we chose to accept the Devils will which is still being overseen by God Almighty. He will judge the devil too and send him to the lake of fire.
My replies are God's will
As per Bible God wanted me to be an atheist that's why I am an Atheist
@akirathod you dont decide what is God's will, God does. And if God wanted you tobe an Atheist He wouldn't have given you free will to chose what you want. And why will you even think God wants you to be an Atheist (ignorant of the Truth?)
There are basically 3 wills (God's will, mans free will and the devils subjugation {forceful will}.) If you reject God's will which is that all should accept His Son Jesus Christ and repent from their Sins, you will accept your own free will to do what you want and the devils (demons) will see you as vulnerable preys and come and subjugate you to his will by force (because God is not there to protect you.)
God does not temper with our free will but the devil does by force. God is Love and the devil believes in force.
God makes you do it only because you love Him and want to obey Him but the devil will force you to do it wether you like it or not, he has no love.
Why does your parents say not to do something it's the same thing God the Father said to his children not to eat from that tree and what did they do disobeyed him
I'm sorry I mentioned God I didn't read the full thing however I'm glad I mentioned his name because God is like any other parent
Here, most likely everything depends on what God has. Following the Christian path, God wants to protect us from all negative, just like the role of the curators guarding their child.
The concept of sin and salvation is bullshit.
Right. There's no such thing as sin... lying, cheating, and stealing are perfectly acceptable behaviors. #sarcasm
Im surprised by the lack of hostility the people who are not religious show, and the intellect and surprisingly impressive explanations given as interpretations.
Because it was forbidden. It was not like a bad thing such as killing it was a symbol and defying that symbol meant the emancipation of the human from the paradise
Think of it as a parent, God told them not to do something, and they did it anyway
Exactly. A "sin" by definition is not obeying God... which they did.
Makes no sense for the OP to not want to hear THE TRUTH as an answer. Only shows that she is here for validation, not truthful facts.
She obviously already knows the answer to her own question, and tried to reject it ! 🤔
Aaaa so the question is... why the fuck would god put the tree there?
Because love is not complete unless there is a testing period in which the option not to love also exists. It's called Volition Dilemma. To make us mindlessly obedient robots with no ability to reject from the very get-go would violate his very nature.
We can't reject according to Christianity you burn for eternity for rejecting god.
What a message, if you don't love me I'll kill you... we humans call that a felony
If you are part of a nation, as Adam and Eve were part of God's kingdom, and you commit an open act of treason, what is the penalty for treason?
It's not: "Love me, or I will kill you." It's "love me, because there is no real life apart from me."
And Adam and Eve said: "F* that. We'd rather die."
And God said: "You will doom your entire species due to that rotten attitude. And you know exactly how. But I'm going to provide them a way out, so your decision doesn't have to condemn them to hopelessness."
To say that he was blackmailing them, instead of simply allowing them to make a choice and they chose maliciously, is a fallacy of equivocation on the meaning of love, which you are deliberately twisting because Adam's rebellion also lives in you.
Well Adams fake sooo nothing of his lives in me. If Your God is real he is a self serving psychopath.
Remember the story of Erin Caffey? She had every reason to ditch her worthless boyfriend, and stay true to her family. Or, to simply run away with him. Instead, she knowingly got in the car with him after he stated he wanted to brutally murder her entire family. Therefore, she was ruled an accessory to the crime.
If your "logic" regarding Adam, Eve, and God, applied to Erin Caffey, then she should've gotten away with that horrific murder, and the judge was a "mean bully" to sentence her to life in prison for being an accessory to murder.
Your analogy doesn't apply here
In fact, the Caffey case has a TON of parallels. Erin was deceived by her boyfriend. She was fed an illusion of a better life, even though she already had everything she needed. She committed a cold betrayal for that delusion. She envisioned that yes, her parents would die. She never imagined her little brothers would be sadistically tortured and murdered as well. Nor the house burned. But she remained with the boyfriend anyway, because she was deceived.
The boyfriend also knew this was the wrong path. But he was not deceived, as neither was Adam. He just didn't care. He let evil fill his heart, and cared not who suffered in his senseless act of malice.
This wasn't the selfish kind of "love" of a man trying to woo a woman to bed, and being unable to handle rejection. God didn't destroy Adam and Eve. The trap had been laid from the get-go by the law's mere existence. Adam and Eve killed themselves, in an abstract sense.
Speaking of delusions... later brah
I hear bawking.
@ObscuredBeyond wild imagination you've got there. Believing in stuff that doesn't exist, hearing noises that aren't there.
A female pressuring a man to do something stupid and fuck his life up 🤔 sounds about right
For some reason apples got a bad name. Think about Snow White or Sleeping Beauty .
It showed their privates and then they felt shameful *facepalm*
Because jesus said to adam and eve eat of any other tree and they disobeyed the lord
Jesus wasn't alive at that point.
Because the devil told them that they would get knowledge like God
God specifically told them not to eat from that one tree and when they did they were the first to sin that's the reason it is a sin
You can have knowledge but its about how you use that knowledge
It wasn't a tree of knowledge if you are referring to Adam and Eve
Cause they hadn't invented oral Sex 2000 years ago.. ;)
I don't know but they have answers to wrestle everything :)
They didn't ate Apple, for the first time they attracted to each other, they realized the things good gave them
Adam and Eve were told not eat, but they did. This shows that freedom of choice was here for a very long time
Don't you watch family guy he hids his porn behind the tree
Aha just watched that episode today
God gave them a command to not eat it and disobeying God is a sin. Why would you question God when he knows all and wants the best for you
Knowledge is the loss of innocence once you have it there is no going back.
It wasn't a sin. They were just asked not to and they failed to follow it.
that's like saying y is it a sin to steal... u stole it without permission
that was the first time human kind ever disobeyed God
It's an allegory. "eating a fruit" is an analogy for sucking cock and eating pussy.
Because it's a fiction written by the Catholic Church to establish a basis of power.
Because God told them not to and also it was a year
Sinds then we play God, we knowing it better, but see what we did, we destroyd de world
Cause ya cannot be ignorant any more hense most sin are birth of ignorance in action
Because it was GODS only rule to them to obey in the GARDEN of EDEN!!!
Imagine a woman chewing that golden succulent apple... mmmhhh! That turns me on.
It was an example of the origin sin when eve and adams opened their eyes to their naked body
Because a knowledgeable person understands you don't need to blindly follow commands.
Because the serpan fools the girls to conquered the world.
I think human being getting more scientific knowledge we are more evilly
I guess god felt Ignorance is bliss and better to not know certain things
because the God knew that women were and would always be bitches
I'm naked right now and feel no shame
Stupid religion
because a invisible man said so apparently
It's just a story lol
Its all a fable. Dont take it seriously
It's the ultimate because I said so tbh lol.
It is a metaphor for having sex.
Clearly you have no brain. First off, it happened. It's no metaphor. Second, how is it a metaphor for having sex? Eve gets punished to have painful child labor.
@Gavyn
Clearly you have NO IDEA who you are talking about.
It is in fact a metaphor for sex. "Original sin" means having sex.
You also should not put too much faith in a 400 year old translation of translations of oral stories that are thousands of years old.
It is JUST A STORY.
Clearly you have never experience God's presence. It's powerful. And by the way, original sin means they disobeyed God and let sin into the world. Sex isn't a problem, sin is a literal term, not a metaphor, and I trust them with my life. Better than leaving it to chance.
Experienced*
@Gavyn
You are hopeless.
Not so. I have JESUS. Unless you have Jesus, you are thousands upon thousands of times more hopeless than me, sorry to tell you. God bless you, I hope you come to Christ.
@Gavyn Why do so many of the bible believers here result to personal attacks? Is it because without Ad hominem attacks, circular reasoning, arguments from ignorance and unfalsifiable claims, (Those are all logical fallacies, google them and see) they would have no arguments?
This is going to be a fun comment section
He didn't want them able to sin I think
If having knowledge is bad then I'm fucked. Lol
uuuh cus the satan snake said it was cool
Because they disobeyed.
God wanted to keep the tastiest fruit for himself.
Should have made it completely unreachable if he didn't want anybody to be eating it in the first place.
Can I ask, was that tree in heaven?