Why Europeans whites and blacks claim they are the descendants of the ancient Jews when the ancient Hebrews were neither white or black?

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The ancient Hebrews were desert people of the Middle East (Asia) european cacausians are not desert people, nor did blacks reside in the Middle East nor in Asia, but rather southern Africa were they are from.

The anciet 12 tribes of Jews were olive skin, like my skin color arabs, Asians and indians not cacausians nor blacks.

I know Judaism is a religion and anyone can convert to Judaism, but I just want to know why cacausians and blacks claim to be the descendents of the ancient Jews when neither of their races are from the Middle East (Asia).

Many "Jews" in current Isreal claiming to be Jews and God's people are of the Devil according to the lord Jesus Christ.

Revelation 3:9: (Jesus Speaking)

Indeed I will make those of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but lie—indeed I will make them come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you.

tartaarsaus · Accepted Answer

This is such an incredibly stupid question. I didn't think you were this retarded but you surprised me. Let's start with the basics of Jewish history. Bad shit happens>Jews flee all over the world>diaspora.  This means the Jewish population is dispersed, for large parts in Eastern Europe. Let's go on with the absolute basics of genetics 101. What happens when people, regardless of their skin colour, mix with white people? Their skin gets lighter. Where did a lot of Jews live? Eastern Europe. What does this mean in the long run? I'll spoil it for you>white skin. Another one. Research of haplotypes by Harry Ostrer and Michael Hammer shows Ashkenazi (white eastern European Jews) and Sephardim (Iberian peninsula) all have genome that is common in the Levant and extremely uncommon in Europe. So what does this mean? White Jews in Eastern Europe and Jews in Spain and Portugal have close genetic links with modern-day Israel. Other researches conclude that the Jewish populations around Europe and the world have very close genetic links, all originating in the Middle East.  So yes, modern Jews - whether white, olive or not - have genetic ties to other Jews and the Levant.  No, depending on the viewpoint of the rabbi (and that only has started to change not too long ago) people can convert to Judaism. It's not like Christianity or Islam where we actively try to convert people to Judaism. The "" marks around Jews are completely unnecessary since anyone who can back up their mom is Jewish, is Jewish. That's Jewish law, there is NO genetic requirement (as in having certain genome) to be Jewish. Seriously, it's utter bullshit.

Trumpster666 · Accepted Answer

Wrong the ancient hebrews were a semetic people like the ancient Samaritians who have lived in the lands of ancient Israel since Moses. They were a mediterean people not unlike the greeks, romans, North Africans etc. Other ancient semetic people's are the Phoenicians who set up colonies and cities all over the eastern and southern Mediterranean, while the ancient Greek colonised the north mediterean as far West as Spain. Another semetic people were the carthaginians who's power rivaled ancient Rome.
From the time of Solomon there has been Jews within Eithiopa who intermingled with the local African people so 4000 years later they are fully African. These Eithiopian Jews practiced their religion for thousands of years and there was once a great Eithiopan civilisation which became a Christian country for a time until conquered by the Muslim Arabs a 1000 years ago. The various Jewish exiles spread Jewish groups all throughout the middle East, Europe, India, North Africa and some believe the Americas, they groups eventually blended into the native population by intermarrying. The reason so many people claim to be the descendants of the ancient hebrews is because they have an inferiority complex about their racial identity and their people's past, they believe that by claiming to be the ancient Jews this gives them ownership of God and moral superiority.

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

That is the stupidest shit I've ever heard. Did you get through school? Do you know ANYTHING about DNA? At all? It sounds like you didn't get passed 5th grade Biology, you stupid cunt. Skin color isn't eye color. It dilutes over many generations. Having been forced into egypt (very diverse) , then out of egypt into the west which was almost all pale skinned. Abraham didn't pop out of the ground a pure Jew. He's a mixed something, doesn't matter what. Be realistic.

Also, Jesus would never say that. Everyone knows 95% of the shit in the bible is made up crap by old priests, like their magnum opus fanfiction. Jesus was executed for treason against the state of rome. Claiming you're the son of God, while ridiculous, isn't a crime. Rallying minorities to overthrow the state because life sucks for them IS a crime. Crucification is SPECIFICALLY a punishment for treason. This is the dude that cussed out a fig tree and washed the feet of sex workers. He was a hippie revolutionary, and considered a very good Jew for his ethics. Those guys being crucified with him were very likely corrupt politicians.

Give the poor guy a break and stop the 'he said she said' crap.

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

The DNA doesn't lie. They carry specific genetic markers in common with modern Israelites, that are not common in other populations. In Judaism, the religion is passed down through matrilineal lines, and throughout history there have always been some non-Jews who had children with Jewish people and raised their children as Jewish. So it has never been a 100% homogeneous population, there have always been other ethnicities who lived side by side with Jews, so that in places like Europe and Africa, the conceptual religious lineage carries down even through changes in the physical appearance of the population.

It would help if you had a better grasp of evolution and DNA. That would make it a lot less confusing for you.

Pikachula · Accepted Answer

Wait, didn't Europeans come from the middle East? Damn..

(It has previously been believed that Europeans can trace their ancestry back to two ancient groups: the hunter-gathers indigenous to western Europe and farmers who migrated into Europe from the Near East, known as modern day Syria, Iraq and Israel. The new study reveals that the genetic origins of modern Europeans also have ties to a third line that originated in northern Eurasia.) Seems like we do huh.

So it's not that strange

ladsin · Answer

They may think that since the covenant wasn't made until after the people came out of egypt (in africa) that they're ancestors were also from that region. That being said, Ashkenazim are pretty white vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/.../latest
Hell, even one or two of my ancestors were jewish.

Anonymous · Answer

Nice inflammatory BS. Great attempt to make people hate each other.

My question for you is when are you going to realize that religion is just allegory and a collection of tribal memories/behavioral suggestions from before fiction and non fiction were clearly defined concepts?

Do you really think that there is a vengeful sky spirit and therefore you should be good?

Or perhaps it's just a way to make stupid people act predictably and to submit their will not to God but to the powers of the rich, and of the state?

Who gives a shit if they are descended from one old tribe or another?

Perhaps I should try to pretend I'm special to and claim to be descended from Odin... Oh so spooky and mystical... Then we can act like retards and have a war about who is more special.

There is only one Earth and one humanity. I sincerely hope that eventually all this stupid sectarian nonsense stops so that we can all focus on preserving this world. At this rate it's all good to go up in atomic smoke.

If there really is a God I think he'd be disgusted by you and your petty divisiveness.

TheWombRaider · Answer

Good question this is why... God Made a Promise to Abraham that his descendants would be unable to count like the stars or sand on the beach... and that all men would be blessed through his seed.

Abraham had Ismael (the father of the MUSLIMS) and Issac (the Jewish Line_), Issac had Jacob Jacob had 12 Sons. The Jews of today are from the 2 Tribes of Judah and Levi... the 10 other sons or 10 other tribes were lost and spread through out the world... The became the Gentiles... me, you, the europeans, Africans. and so fourth.

Furthermore Jesus came from the line of Judah and he died for all mens sins... hence the promise that all men would be BLESSED though your seed.

message me if you want more details Oh and Ismael and Issac the father of the Muslims and the father of the Jews are both fighting to this day over israel saying abraham was their father and they are both rightful airs God Promised Abraham he would make both in to a Nation and he did... But Abraham didn't listen to God and wait for the Promised son Issac he took matters into his own hands slept with the slave girl Hagar and had Ismael and since then they have been at war...

Dragon6901 · Answer

During the many periods where Jacob suffered the judgment of God and were sent to Babylon or Assyria before being recalled to the Promised Land there were many mixed marriages and from these could come any degree of mixed heritage. Whether lawful or no it is how it is and the entirety of the Bible teaches that the heart is what become circumcised rather than the flesh. The question now is who will obey from the heart rather than a list of rules? That was also King Jesus' point, was it not? Put down the division and raise up the Banner of Unity!

RegularTK421 · Answer

Hard to know once Israel was destroyed multiple times throughout history. Many were exiled at one time to ancient Babylon. There is also marriage, and conversion which are factors to consider. The Khazars were not originally Jewish if you will, but adopted the faith, or at least some of the elite did in the 8th century. Aside from that, if the original Israelis fled into exile into either Ethiopia, throughout the Middle east, or into Europe, then they would eventually after so many centuries of residing there, begin to mix and look like the native populations if you will.

estoydorado1 · Answer

You're acting like lighter skinned people can't produce darker skinned children and vice versa. Where are you drawing the line at too dark or too light? And wasn't it believed that if a woman married into a certain religion, she would take it as her own and raise the children thus? Nobody is 100% anything nowadays. You and I are kinda close in skin color but I consider myself black (because I come from Afro ancestry). Are you claiming that your skin tone qualifies you as Jewish?

feetlover80 · Answer

let's go back even further. we all, everyone came out of Africa following the evolutionary path forged from the conditions made by the never changing geography of planet Earth. as we evolved and grew more intelligent, Religion then came along with all of its mystery
, misunderstanding and where impossible questions to answer, are miraculously answered by the word Faith. as a rule of thumb we follow the religion of the country we are born in. I would suggest a historian of religion and the geography can better answer your question. I just talked around it because we are all equal. I'm more confused as to why Jesus is always portrayed as a pale skinned white man. well the churches I've been in in England always show Jesus nearly albino white in skin tone.

Jaaanellie · Answer

Jewish people are from Palestine. They only ended up in Europe through the diaspora. What you’re basically saying is equivalent to claiming descendants of slaves aren’t really African because they left Africa. Olive skin isn’t actually dark. Plus, in the Middle East they were constantly exposed to the sun thus more brown. Literally what you’re saying is a lie made by an anti-Semitic guy to undermine the Holocaust. It’s made up. Ashkenazi DNA is closer to those in the Middle East than native Europeans.

NineBreaker · Answer

Why do you care about who is really Jewish and who isn't? I thought that Christians don't care about things like race, ethnicity, language, national origin, or skin color so long as you're [the right kind of] Christian. At least they shouldn't, it so I believe. Then again, I'm not Christian, so enlighten me.

brocklee · Answer

Any traits you mention would have been watered down within a couple generations. I have seen olive skin washed completely away after one. My grandmother was an olive skinned immigrant. Of her 4 kids with a white European, only one had olive skin. Of the 10 grandchildren, zero have olive skin or any characteristics of her nationality.

So we are talking "ancient" Jewish ancestors.. the only thing left now would be DNA evidence.

WalterRadio · Answer

Maybe you should learn some history.

I am white and part Jewish. My Jews are the Ashkenazi from the Rhine Valley.

There is something called the Roman Empire. Maybe you've heard of it? It established economic and social connections from the middle east through western Europe. People moved throughout the empire.

And then there are the Ethiopian Jews (who are Jewish by DNA evidence)

JimRSmith · Answer

I've never, ever come across any white European who believes themselves to be a descendant of the biblical Jews. Ever.  Not saying that such people don't exist, but they must be pretty rare...

jansoka · Answer

You Know that Jesus lived near the mediterran sea and his Land was Part of the Roman Empire.
This means that There was a big culture Exchange with the other peoples around the mediterran sea Like all the greeks and romans!
So their culture was Orientated to Europe (Rome)

Their outward appearance was Like mediterran people Look Like: European with a darker skin gut definetely NOT Indian!

NoOneSuspicious · Answer

That's stupid, they were split among the nations of the world. That means some assimilation occurred, which then caused them to have mixed DNA in them, and yes it affected their skin color

r4ngeF · Answer

Im jewish, from israel... And you got no clue what you talk about, kiddo. If you are a layman, you will stay a layman.

Anonymous · Answer

Jesus was a middle eastern jew, he probably had like light brown olive skin and looks like a typical brown middle eastern. Black and white people wanna make everything about themselves when it comes to jesus.

Yeah, We was Kangs Nigga..
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Yehaww, We Wur Kingsss partner"

Anonymous · Answer

Such a powerful claim without scripture or historical evidence. First of all I'd like to say that your skin tone is not olive. Brown perhaps but not olive. Secondly there is no scripture anywhere in the bible that prove yeshua or any other hebrew had olive skin. If so find it and show us.

FakeName123 · Answer

Hebrews weren't dark black, but rather an olive-brown. Modern jews have nothing to do with the hebrews from back then, but are to a big amount the descendants of the Ashkenazis.

QueenofCups · Answer

Technically, Semitic people are Caucasian, but a different branch than European Caucasians.

jimyee · Answer

If we all came from Adam and Eve and further more Noah and than father abraham then vicariously are we all not of Jewish decent?

Why Europeans whites and blacks claim they are the descendants of the ancient Jews when the ancient Hebrews were neither white or black?

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