The privileges of being a woman

[BeeNee]

We often fail to realize the priviledges we have whether that's because we are wealthy, or a certain race, or have a certain amount of education, or grew up in a certain country, etc. As part of an assignment, I recently had to sit down and think of all the priviledges I thought I had as a woman that I didn't think men had, or not as much because of their gender. I was surprised when I really thought about it. It's not to say that men don't also have their own priviledges, but there are a lot of things I don't think we think of as priviledges, but that really are when we look at the bigger picture or compare the two. So here are some of the ones I thought of. Of course they don't apply to every woman or every man, but I think in general they do.

1. Being able to dress exactly "like a man" if you wanted to 7 days a week and no one bats an eyelash or calls you names, or beats you up to teach you a lesson or threatens to kill you


2. Having the ability to cry in a room full of people, and your girls gather around you and affirm your feelings and do their best to make you feel better


3. Being able to spend an hour + getting ready with your girls and no one thinks that's too long or weird


4. Going to the bathroom with your girlfriends to talk about what just happened out there


5. Ladies Night and Girls Night

   



6. Being able to sit at the park at a playground without kids, and parents don't think you're a creeper or threaten to call the cops


7. The clothing and shoe options are endless


8. Never being told your car isn't feminine enough


9. Being able to call people honey, sugar, babe without it being precieved as sexist or sexual harrassment


10. Being able to cover up bad skin, a bad night, a pimple, or look different with make-up


11. Being able to invite all your child's friends over for a sleep over without people questioning if your husband is going to be there so it won't be weird or inappropriate


12. Being able to sit really close to your girlfriends, or put your arm around them, or hook arms, and no one thinks its weird


13. Being able to grow an entire human being inside of us and too connect with our baby long before its ever born


14. Being able to be terrible at a sport and no one calls you out on your womanhood


15. Not having to pay from time to time, or never, for drinks at a bar


16. Generally speaking, being able to openly and freely hug and or kiss on the cheek whomever you want without it ever being weird

    



17. Not having guys be afraid of us even in situations where we've given them no indication that they have anything to fear


18. Being applauded for attempting or doing things guys tradiontally do, especially if you do it well


19. Being able to go to a club and dance with a group of girls


20. There isn't an obvious indication as to whether we are pleasured during sex; less pressure to perform


21. Being able to be a stay at home mom without people questioning your womanhood


22. You can openly cry and scream and wine if you needed to about the pain from an accident without being told to suck it up and "be a woman" about it


23. In an emergency, being able to dash into the men's bathroom because the ladies line is too long or to take your son in there


24. Being able to be openly scared about something


25. Being able to take really suggestive photos with our girlfriends and its cute/sexy, not inappropriate and "gay"

    



26. Getting to spend hours with your girlfriends at a spa day without any judgement


27. People don't ever say anything about you having small dogs or a cat(s)


28. Being able to openly discuss feelings and not get weird looks or your girlfriends being weirded out


29. The ability to wear fake everything; lashes, extensions, nails, slimmers, bra enhancers, and its generally accepted as being normal


30. Being able to play an active roll in your children's lives without anyone asking where is your husband, shouldn't he be here?


31. Having a bag available at all times where you can store all your stuff without having to squeeze it into 2-4 pockets


32. Generally knowing when we're going to get to have sex


33. Being able to watch any movie or television show without someone questioning why you're watching it because its a "guy flick" or "a guys show"


34. Being able to shop for your son for any type of clothing he needs without judgement


35. Not having to prove our womanhood by our ability to change a tire, or how much weight we can lift, or how many guys we can get numbers for in a bar

    



36. Decorating your house/apartment anyway you want without and ever being told its too "manly" in here


37. Being able to take some me time, and no one really questions it


38. Not always having to portray strength or that you are always in control of the situation

Can you think of some more? Are these valid? Do you ever think that society will change so that these are no longer priviledges for some, but apply to all?

[hellionthesage]

Well you could also mention that male domestic violence victims are completly ignored while there are many women's shelters funded by the government, this despite statistical evidence suggesting males are more likely to be abused then women. 75% of the homeless are males as well (why do men not have the same safety net that women apparently have to prevent this), men are, according to the CDC and FBI are almost as likely to be raped by a woman as a woman is by a man.(the data suggests there are probably even more men but due to our societal view that men can't be raped they don't come forward). Its illegal to circumcise a woman in most western countries, it is not illegal to do so to a man (almost always when they are babies and thus unable to give consent). As some one else mentioned child custody favors the mother. As various events have shown, women who accuse a man of rape will always be believed despite evidence to the contrary (rolling stones just had a minor scandal about this, as well as the Duke lacross team incident, and a highschol football player who was accused and imprisoned for four years had his life ruined only to finally manage to have a private detective get the woman to confess to lying). Male disposability, that is the idea that women are inherintly valuable and men are only as valuable as there utilitarian purpose ie what they can do/provide. Its what allowed for us to so readily sacrifice men whether it be in dangerous jobs (95% of work place deaths/accidents are male) or military (98% of all combat deaths are male) or general disregard for the stresses and emotional trauma they sustain (80% of all suicides are male). Meanwhile studies have shown that biologicly/socially we take female issues far more seriously then male ones. This also extends to crime since males comprise 80% of all assault/mugging/murder victims. Also being told men are responsible for all the suffering of the world through out all of history doesn't help. So yeah there are a lot of issues. I don't mind being a man, I don't talk about my feelings like women do and I don't see that as a problem, what is a problem is when my issues get ignored out right. Most men, at least it seems that way historicly, had women/wives as there emotional outlet. Now gender relations are so screwed up that they have no one because nobody, women and it seems even men, understand men and so all of these issues become exacerbated.

[BeeNee]

If we look at something like the ship going down in Titanic, and one of the characters, a man, trying to save himself by boarding a lifeboat with a child---great example. Historically during this time, men were financially responsible for all the women and younger members of the family, so if he died, essentially his whole family would have been ruined, yet we save women above men rather then choose to save both equally as if men aren't fathers and providers in the same way women are. I think that's huge, women are never drafted, and up until recently, were never put on the front lines. Everything else listed was on point as to the disparities in how we treat each other in certain circumstances. The thing I do keep emphasizing to everyone reading this list is that both men and women have privileges and both men and women have disadvantages. Its not about winning some arbitrary war on who has it best or worst, but just to think about it and perhaps take a look at ones one behavior...

[BeeNee]

When it comes to certain circumstances. Are you or I part of the problem or just relying on an old traditional stereotype of what men or women are or should be or act. As far as your closing statement, I wouldn't go so far as to say no one is talking to anyone anymore. I think we'd be in far worse shape if that were the case. I still think husbands and wives or people in long term relationships lean on each other to help understand their troubles or what they're going through.

[hellionthesage]

The problem, as I see it, is that we have a false understanding of history. We portray men as these oppressive abusive monsters. This has created a false perception of who men are and by extention created this idea that masculinity is some how flawed. For instance you mention the titanic (for the record 100 women died as opposed to 1358 men) we claim that men treated women as if they where property yet this singular event showed that as a society a womans life was held in higher regard then a mans, especially by men themselves. When you are taught history it is taught from a very one sided view, that of what women could not do. It isn't even taught what men could not do just women. Voting for instance, every one knows that women could not vote, except that is only somewhat true. Women who owned enough property could, the reason was because property ownership (taxes) was the only way to get a right to vote which prevented the majority of the population, specificly men, from voting.

[hellionthesage]

It was only until about 1850s or so that men got the right to vote in america (I believe all men got the right to vote in england sometime after the first world war) this is only 70 years, or one life span, earlier then women. So its a very misleading argument, and even then it doesn't adress why, which was because men could and where drafted into war (as well as bucket brigades and such). In fact 70% of women in england said they didn't want to have the right to vote because they did not wish to be drafted. So this, and the many other one sided representations in history, has created a skewed view of men in our society. This has allowed for the view that women not being in a certain field for instance is due to men oppressing them (using pseudohistory to justifie the view) as evidence for it. This is exacerbated by the notion that gender is a blank slate and by extention a creation of society.

[hellionthesage]

This completely ignores all evidence to the contrary. We know that male and female brains are vastly diffrent, males have 8-10% larger brains then women and a significantly larger amount of grey matter coupled with a greater abundance of neural path ways that reside in a single hemisphere while women have a significantly greater amount of white matter and have more numerous neural pathways that cross hemispheres (this is why they believe women have greater social skills and intuition and men have greater spatial recognition. Its also why they belive men to be more "thing" oriented and women more "people" oriented) We are diffrent yet we perpetuat this notion that we are the same, that the reason that women and men gravitate to certain roles is because society and not our obvious biological diffrences.(Its interesting to note that the genetic similarities between people of the same gender is 99%, but between men and women its 97%, or the diffrence between a chimp and a human)

[hellionthesage]

This has created a notion that masculinity is flawed and femininity is the standard thanks to the skewed history, and that gender doesn't exist naturally and there fore breeding ignorance as to why men and women act the way they do. Think of it this way, if some one is acting rude you become offended. Now you find out that the person has aspergers and as such cannot recognize that there actions are hurtfull, would you be equally offended? Probably not, because you understand them. Thats the issue with male and female issues is that we are skewing the motivators and notions of what it is to be men and women and this has unfortunatley due to biology (neotanous traits cause women to have more juvenile features which create a sense of vulnerability, hence women issues being taken seriously, and males have less of these traits which is why there problems generally are not viewed as serious. This is also why men are taken more seriously in postions of power and women are not.)

[hellionthesage]

Basicly in your take, which I do very much love and I am glad you said it, you mention things of what men should be able to do, however they are viewed (at leats the way I interpreted it) as what a woman would believe a man would want to do rather then what a man would believe a man would want to do. Basicly I do not talk about my emotions as most men don't, most men deal with them through there actions. This is neither worse or better then the way women deal with there emotions ie talking about them, just diffrent. This diffrence may very well be biological (or not I don't know) if that is the case then we should not be encouraging men to talk about there feelings but rather realizing they are just in a diffrent way and respond accordingly. I don't know if that made sense, it was bit rambly but its a lot of stuff coming from so many angles (and limited space) so it was the best I could do. Hopefully It was clear?

[hellionthesage]

I would also agree men and women both have issues I just think we have focused so much on womens problems that as a society we have forgoten men in the process.

[oracle12c]

No we haven't focused so much on women's problems that as a society we have forgotten men in the process.

We have actively created problems for men, that didn't exist in the past based on political agitation and ideology called feminism. Feminism is in actuality a threat to gender equality and only increases gender inequality, based on a ideology without factual support.

[hellionthesage]

@oracle12c I am well aware of what feminism has done. Its why I have such a long list of issues here, I was reffering to the average individual.

[jormungand]

Seriously your comment stirred up something in my heart. I cannot say or comment on the statistics you used as i haven't done research about it and thus am not as knowledgeable as you. Bit one thing i do know. Men and women are biologically wired different. We have different needs and thus think and act differently. The thing we should strive for is not 'equality' but 'equity'! Because we are not the same and never will be. Amen to you brother

[hellionthesage]

@jormungand The information is easily acquired if your willing to look, thanks to the internet (I remember a time you had to go to a library and pour threw many books to get the information you where looking for, not that I minded). Geneticly same gender simliarity is 99%, genetice similarity between a man and a woman is 97%, the diffrence between a human and chimpanzee. Biologicly men and women are very diffrent because we where fullfilling diffrent functions, we where never built to compete against eachother as we do now but rather compliment eachother. I'm glad I could inspire something in you.

[RJGraveyTrain]

I agree. I love that you actually addressed this being a woman. Very few women would have the bravery to do this and I think if more people think like you, things will change.

[Rawrzz]

You touch on some intimacy-type things, but I think you missed a pretty big overarching theme.

"You can openly cry and scream and wine if you needed to about the pain from an accident without being told to suck it up and "be a woman" about it" If you were told this your entire life, do you think it would make you less apt to think any of your issues are of any worth, at all? That anyone gives a fuck, to any extent, about you?

Generally knowing when we're going to get to have sex--getting sex whenever we feel like it*

That last picture in the post paints males as pretty simple-minded, if less judgmental, no?

Society might try. But the base effect will probably remain for quite a long time: men must be strong and sufficient, must earn their value in society; women must be comfortable, have innate value in society.

This should be another one, "People actually give a fuck about us, just because we're women." I'm reminded of this story where a woman chopped her husbands dick off and threw it in the disposal. People thought it was hilarious or didn't really think much of it. If it was a woman's breast, do you think people would dare to laugh? This one chick even told me, "well, he probably cheated on her." That shows the true value we place on women and men.

Another issue was at some job where unemployment was lowering the male to female ratio. People showed that more women were dying in the job--but the same amount of women were dying as usual, it was just less men were dying than usual. People were outraged and said, "We have to do something about this!" In other words, they were outraged that men were not dying at a much faster rate than women: something was wrong if men weren't dying at a rate of 1000% more than women. How many males die and are seriously injured in dangerous jobs? How many people get outraged about it? Very few. How many people get outraged that women must wear shirts in public? Yeah.

So, a very important one I feel you left out is, "My life has value in society, simply because I am a woman." This is leftover from our 20,000 year old instincts: instincts which tell us that males must defend women and women must be prepared to sacrifice men for their own survival. Since women can only reproduce once in 9 months, and one male could do the job of thousands of men if need be (via infinite sperm impregnating as many eggs as need be), this ideology remains in modern society where it is not quite as necessary (at all) as 20k years ago.

[hellionthesage]

The death remark was due to work place death and the reason it whent up for women was because so many men lost there jobs and women began taking them. Thats why it whent up for women, funny when you think about it. They never cared that the job was taken, they didn't care when those rates where applied to men, only when it effected women did any body seem to notice.

[hellionthesage]

Ironicly the very issue that has convinced so many that males where in control is the very thing that caused men to die at higher rates. Men have to prove there worth, womens worth is guarenteed based on there reproduction. However since mens worth had to be earned, that drove men to do more hence men being inventors and responsible for so many discoveries, it was the only way to prove they mattered, while women never needed to do anything to prove that they mattered.

[LuckyLittleLucy]

@hellionthesage
You said some important stuff there but I wouldn't say that "My life has value in society, simply because I'm a woman". Everybody's life has value, and I would say men are valued at least equally in society just because they are male.
Don't you find it funny how you think women are more valued and I think men are more valued?

[hellionthesage]

@LuckyLittleLucy Women are valued on reprodcutive ability. This is why we readily sacrifice men, for instance if you look at it historicly and currently we have a women first policy. When the titanic sank 100 women died as opposed to 1358 men. Those men died specificly because they where expected to stay behind until all women where evacuated. When we raise infants they have shown that we, as a society, will imediatley attend to a crying female baby, yet when a male infant cries its considered a good thing, he's stretching his lungs as I have heard it described or he's learning to cope. This creates a mind set of a womans needs being more important then a mans and that is due simply to her being a woman. This is all due to the high reproductive cost of child birth/rearing for women and the incredibly easy low cost of male reproduction. Basicly if you have ten men and one woman, you can only have one offspring and they will be dependent for years, but if you have 1 man and ten women,

[hellionthesage]

@LuckyLittleLucy That is ten children. This makes it more practical to have men go and take on riskier jobs and sacrifice themselves in the stead of women because it would not hamper survival. This is what informs the societal belief that men are disposable and women are valuable. If you look at fairy tales, the man is expected to fight his way through very dangerous situations to find and save a woman. What this says is the woman is valuable enough to be locked away and valuable enough to fight and potentially die for. This informs both men and women of there place in society. The reason men seem "more" valuable to you is because each man is pressured to prove his worth. Each man has to not only prove his value to society but to prove he is more valuable then the other men he is competeing against. If you look at dating for instance, when a man asks a woman out, he is asking for a chance to prove his worth to her.

[hellionthesage]

@LuckyLittleLucy She then decides whether or not he is worthy of her time, if he is he is allowed to plan the date (to please her ) to pay for the date (to please her) and so on and so forth. He has to prove that amongst all of the potential men she may choose that he is the most valuable to her. This is what drives men to acquire power and moeny and fame and so on and so forth. It is why we have this view that women where/are barred from specific tasks/jobs, not because they actually are but rather that the drive and competition for them is so significantly greater among men that it becomes difficult to compete if you do not have that same drive. This is all due to men having to prove their worth to society and to women. Every man is replacable by any other man by default. Its only his skills and assets that make him distinguishable from the rest.

[Rawrzz]

Let's see if I get this damn reply thing right: @LuckyLittleLucy What hellionthesage said. He summed it up nicely. Where the value of lives are concerned, it's no question that womens' lives are much more highly valued, even if we say they're all equal. Note: the story I mentioned in my post about the wife chopping off the husband's member and society's reaction to it.

Keep your ears and mind open, and you might just notice this in your own daily life, along with the double standards and disadvantages of women. How men and women are treated in society. You'll notice issues with both.

[LuckyLittleLucy]

I see your point but society is changing so much that I don't think we can rely on the argument that women can be more valued for reproductive ability etc. because women now do the same dangerous jobs as men? Or do you think we still can?

[Rawrzz]

It's not an argument. It's an instinct. And while society may change, instincts are much, much slower to change. Even if people were forced into equality, the instinct would still be male sacrifice and female protection.

Sure. Women can do almost anything men can. Just as men can do almost anything women can. It's just that most women are smart enough to understand that they don't have to work on an oil rig and risk losing limbs and their lives to make a living. Much fewer women work those harder, more dangerous jobs.

Some women do work more dangerous jobs, but they are far, far, far in the minority.

Well. Look up 'GirlWritesWhat'/karen straughan on youtube, and watch some of her videos, if you wanna learn more. She's pretty arrogant, but she seems, to me, very well informed. Even Jenna Marbles touches on some of the female privilege/value stuff. Most of the stuff I'm saying is just rehashing Karen's arguments. Plus, it would probably seem more tenable coming from a female.

[TheEroticJester]

Bottom line: being a male, more freedom to do what you want (used to be now its equal), but you have to do something. If not then you're genes will be discarded.

Women: Less freedom (until recently) but there is no pressure to actually do much of anything except certain house chores (which is no longer, outdated and honestly doesn't apply)

The current atmosphere confuses everyone and everything because there are men who have less freedom yet still have to do a lot (religious/traditional/'nice' guys) and they generally have it pretty bad both sexually and in life.

Then we have guys who don't do anything with their freedom but express it fully, they do OK if they are rich and do shit if poor.

And with women we have most who are now completely unrestricted but STILL always haev the option of laying back and doing nothing, depending on who we are talking about. This is basically a best case scenario because there are downsides for many due to modernity not catching on everywhere but once it does there really is no downside to being a woman.

Not to say men have it TERRIBLE, it's just that a different kind of male is now enjoying most of the fruits. Before it was the hard working man who was all business because his goal was not just to have sex, but to run a family as a responsible adult. In the current environment this man is a loser in all aspects of the world.

The men that win now are the fun, flirty, good looking/charming guys who women are no longer afraid of sleeping with whether in a relationship or not. They offer the emotional high which is all the woman realy needs or wants because running a family means sacrifice and compromise, something that she does not need to do to be sexually fulfilled nor to seem socially acceptable.

Ofc this ignores the fact that hard working types are the only reason society is working to begin with. But with less incentive the current state of affairs points to a major economic and social collapse which we can see in the US quite clearly. It's not the only reason but it is both an indicator and a reason for the decline of overall society

[DarkHumorRUs]

Men and women in civilized countries have the same freedoms and rights. There are no rights in the US which are only for one gender.

I don't see how "no pressure to do things" = "less freedom".

[AllThatSweetJazz]

There are some equivalent things for women for a few of these, plus some other things girls might have to deal with. But mostly I just really really really appreciate the thought and the sympathy.

Many of these things I have no idea how to change.
Like being able to dance with girls at a club: It's not that I secretly wish to dance with guy friends at a club but don't want to be seen as gay or weird, I just don't enjoy dancing with guys. I do want to be able to get in there and feel connected to people and have fun but it automatically comes off as completely sexual if you're a guy doing it around girls. But it's like... we both want to have fun, but if I dance it comes with a slight sexual component (which is difficult to avoid since I'm more interested in dancing around girls) on top of that. So I just don't get to dance because girls don't like the pinch of sexuality that's involved, girls get to have their fun with other girls and I just don't really have any options to actually enjoy myself. Feels bleak. I think a lot of females assume that problem come from a guy's fear of being gay, but to me most guys aren't afraid of being perceived that way, so the problem doesn't feel like it's actually within *me* so I don't know how to change it.

I've heard of straight guys going to gay clubs just to dance with the girls there that are dancing with guys they presume to be gay. Granted some of them are probably creeps but it's telling of what guys can't find. It's nice to be able to go somewhere and get hit on and dance with girls that will be friendly and not automatically hostile... but apparently guys have to effectively lie just to feel acceptance.

Other things that I would mention are getting into university and getting scholarships, student support payments, bursaries.

Apparently being a guy means I'm more likely to kill myself so there's a fear that I'm just going to be expected to carry extra weight in life and if I can't then it's going to hit me harder, and I'll have no support network.

Generally just being seen as kinda gross or not at least never really all that physically attractive. I have no clothing options, but I want to be pretty (or some masculine equivalent), I see the effect girls have on me (like with the woman in just a T-shirt) and I want to be able to do that for girls, but nope. Guy bodies are just generally considered grosser and it bothers me.

[BeeNee]

Definitely some really good points. I don't think there are any real male only scholarships that aren't linked to some organization like the Boy Scouts which you already have to have been a member of. And I will freely admit when the girls and I just want to have fun, we do sometimes go to the gay clubs because for the most part it is just about us dancing with someone with no expectations of anything. In a straight club, its difficult or not difficult to gauge who just wants to have fun and who's trying to get into your pants. I also really can't think of a sexy equivalent to a girl like putting on a hot dress and doing up her hair and make-up, for guys out there. I mean, you guys can clean up, but its really more just another version of you in a nice shirt and pants. Thanks for the POV

[AllThatSweetJazz]

That's how I was thinking about it, guys just "clean up" but there's no way to blow people away.

People don't tell you how good you look and stuff. It seems strange to me that a girl would have never been told she's pretty, but that's a guy's life. Guys just never knew any better and I wonder what effect that has on a person when they just go through their life devoid of such assurances compared to having them.

[godfatherfan]

The problem with many of your points is that they are not "privileges", they are just pointing out the differences between men and women. Men don't show emotion as much. We sure as hell don't want to spend more then 5-10 min getting dressed. Why do you need to go to the bathroom in heards? Not sure why you thing "clothing and shoe options are endless" as a good thing, #29 is just sad, why broadcast a lie about yourself?, That last graphic shows just how messed up women think. why fill your head with such unimportant crap? again, that sure is not a plus, it is just the difference between sexes. The best analogy I ever heard to explan the way women and men think is "women brains are like spaghetti and men are like waffles".
You women do enjoy a lot of perks men just don't. the most glaring is in the sex department. ALL the pressure is on men, none on women. You can just lay there and be a rockstar. and you can do it as much and as long as you like. as men get older those both decrease dramatically.

[anon4122]

priveledge or not some men want some or all of these things.

[BeeNee]

@godfatherfan A privilege is a special right, advantage, or immunity granted or available only to a particular person or group of people, so this list would be a list of those things. It's also not about just you or I. I'm talking about a broad range of women/men. You don't even know me and yet you assume I wear fake everything just because I've listed it as a privilege for women. I'm actually a natural person by choice. I have heard/seen men talk about how women are allowed to deceive and they are not with how they look, or men would like to be able to show emotion from time to time, but they can't for fear of ridicule. You are one man. I am one woman. You nor I speak for our entire sex which is why I stated some of these may not apply to everyone in my intro including myself.

[godfatherfan]

I never said that you did all of these things. I was highlighting a few of the ones you listed. I was talking about your bullet points. It's only a privilege if both sexes want to do it but only one is able to do it. What i am saying is that the majority of men would not want to ever do some of the things you list. If we had to it would be a punishment, not a privilege. There are many things on the list I wish I was able to do. The sex thing being one of them. I would love to just be able to do it with zero pressure anytime i want for as long as I want. While I would never want to give birth, I am in awe of women for having that ability. I saw it up close since I have 3 sons and it is amazing. in short, i just don't agree that all the things you list are considered privileges. But I did think it was a good take and made good points.

[Sex-Kitten]

Tbh, I think it's justified that men have more pressure to initiate sex and do most of the work. In the case of the average man and woman, a man needs to fuck more. Most girls can easily go a day or longer without fucking. Guys have a bigger urge, because the DNA programmed you to want to spread your seed, ensure the continuation of your line. Guys are hornier more. This is why on average, women have more power with sex than men. Though men can technically MAKE us have sex, they don't (in relationships that is). Most men will beg a girl to suck his dick and to have sex. And women keenly use sex to make guys do things for them (ever heard if a guy using sex to make a girl do anything?). Guys want sex more, they NEED sex more biologically (they fuck, women are stuck pregnant for 9 months). And for these reasons, it's only fair they initiate more.

[QuestionMan]

Interesting take.
Yes there are ways in which men can be more compassionate to each other such as the vomiting example.
I always found it weird whenever a woman would walk into the men's room. I would understand if it's with her son and he needs some sort of assistance but otherwise, please stick to your designated washroom. You don't see men walking into the women's washroom when it's full in the men's, we wait.

6. Being able to sit at the park at a playground without kids, and parents don't think you're a creeper or threaten to call the cops
I wish people would accept the fact that a guy can sit in a park just to enjoy nature.

22. You can openly cry and scream and wine if you needed to about the pain from an accident without being told to suck it up and "be a woman" about it
Here is where I think men got it right. Women tend to be to sensitive and should be more stoic like men.

Finally
32. Generally knowing when we're going to get to have sex
I'm actually writing a myTake about that and how women have the power to end the imbalance between the amount of sex that men and women get.

by the way it's 'privileges' not 'priviledges'

[Genie23]

"6. Being able to sit at the park at a playground without kids, and parents don't think you're a creeper or threaten to call the cops"
What the hell.. If a guy sits alone in a park, people assume he's a creep and threatens to call the police? O_o Does this really happen? This is really messed up

[Genie23]

by the way, nice take.

[Derpyy]

I had a friend once who was really stressed out at home, so I took two buses to sit in the park with him at around 6pm. I didn't know why he needed me there, til I noticed (like an hour later) TWO patrol cars around us with the officers staring at us. Then I looked at my friend and all he said was, "I can't even relax at the park across the street from my house without looking like a child rapist..."

This does happen quite often sadly.

[larry69]

Yes it does. I used to run and once I sat down I had police question me and run my background before letting me go. No parks without kids

[Genie23]

@Derpyy WOAH, what the h... That's really sick. Now I feel bad that we girls have it easy. We can wear whatever we want, do whatever we want. We chan show our emotions... But, if a guy does, that people criticise him, judge them. It really gets on my nerves.
That's really sad

[Genie23]

I didn't know.. caus it doesn't happen in my city...

@larry69 Wow... That sucks. I'm sorry you guys have to deal with this crap.
It's really sad, :/

[Derpyy]

Precisely. That's why I get so mad when the girls here on this site jump down the guys' throats over small shit. Cuz the whole time I'm thinking, "You assholes have so much..." Sometimes I honestly hope I have a daughter (I want a son with every fiber of my being) just so I don't have to witness the countless injustices he will have to face.

[Genie23]

@Derpyy Me too. Some women on gag just whine about everything. They don't know guys face so many injustice.
I've heard some girls (at my office) take advantage of being a girl... they make false allegations sexual harassment. It's so pathetic.

[BeeNee]

This happens a lot! Its not just at playgrounds, its essentially any place with children. I get that as a parent you have an obligation to protect your children, but if someone is literally sitting on a park bench near your kids, not saying or doing anything other then just sitting there, he can't really be a threat, but they will call. They will remove their kids. The sad thing is some of them are parents too, but if you're not a woman, you must be up to no good. However just because I have listed what I think are our advantages, I could list the same list with different qualities for men. Life is unfair some times or a lot of times to both sexes. One doesn't necessarily have it easier or harder then the other.

[Genie23]

True. :/

[ihatethiswebsite]

The parents do kind of look at you funny when you are walking by the park when they have their kids. It definitely feels awkward walking by.

[AleDeEurope]

Yes it does. You don't even have to be at a park. One night I was walking home whe this girl passes in front of me, I didn't look or said anything, just kept walking with my music on. Now that she was in front of me, she kept looking back every five seconds and walking faster and faster, and when she turned the corner she ran.
The funny part is that when I entered my building she was there, waiting for the elevator; she lived in the same building.
She thought I was gonna do something to her when I was just walking home with my headphones on... I've never beem so offended in my life.

[BeeNee]

^^^ Number 17. Absolutely

[Genie23]

@ihatethiswebsite Woah... A guy can't even walk or sit alone without getting funny/suspicious look from others... Ugh, this is so messed up..
Sorry, you guys have to deal with this, :/

[Genie23]

@AleDeEurope What the actual... I don't even know what to say. You both lived in a same building, you weren't even staring at her, you were just minding your own business... Yet she thought you're going to harm her?
This is so pathetic. Really crazy, Ugh. I'm sorry you guys had to deal with this.

[AleDeEurope]

She was walking behind me at first, I didn't notice her, so I don't understand why she then passed me and got in front of me, makes no sense.
Anyways, I wanted to say something to her while in the elevator, but there were two other guys so I just kept quiet. Fortunately it hasn't happen again.

[Genie23]

@AleDeEurope I'm glad it didn't happen again. I think there is no point in arguing with idiots
If I were you, I'd just give "wtf?" Look. shake your my head and then ignore her completely, lol.

[mangaka92]

This kind of stuff does happen, actually. Here's a good example of it,
abcnews.go.com/.../

[Genie23]

@Mangaka92 Omg... Wth...

[Genie23]

This is really crazy...

[mangaka92]

@Genie23 Right? It's ridiculous that stuff like this actually happens...

[Genie23]

@Mangaka92 It's pathetic. Ugh

[mangaka92]

@Genie23 It really is. :/

[Genie23]

@Mangaka92 :/
But hey think about the positive things about being a guy! You guys age better and you don't have to deal with pms! Lol

[ruskodisco]

mehh, blowjobs make it all up.

[Genie23]

Wth... Lol

[mangaka92]

@Genie23
Haha, you bet! Two of my favorites! Haha jk :P
There are definitely positives and negatives to being a guy and to being a girl. We each have our struggle, but we also have lots to be thankful for! :)

[Genie23]

@Mangaka92 True :p :)

[mangaka92]

@Genie23 Haha yeah. :)

[blondfrog]

@larr69 @darpyy @aledeeurope @mangaka92 @ihatethiswebsite
its even worse when your an ugly guy like me, I have no eyebrows, barely any hair and no hair anywhere else on my body and every now and then I get strange looks from girls and sometimes even over hearing them talking to another female and going "did you see that he has no eyebrows" Ever since my condition occurred I've noticed I have gotten a significant amount of more creepy looks, girls clutching their purses when I come near by, had security called on me before until they find out it was just some girl creeper out by a look and other shit too. I used to get approached by girls now if I even approached a girl there is a good chance I get security called on me.

[blondfrog]

@derppy @larry69

[blondfrog]

@Derpyy

[AleDeEurope]

@blondfrog Oh dude, I'm so sorry to hear that, that's tough to live with :S

[blondfrog]

It's alright @aledeeurope I've noticed something though in society you either get stared at and given the most eye contact attention for being really ugly or really hot

[AleDeEurope]

@blondfrog That is true :S

[Derpyy]

This. This is why on sites like this and in real life, people tell me I'm always standing for the guys. No, I just stand for equality. I see so many of the things listed above on a daily basis. It sickens me. I defend the guys whenever I can, within reason of course. What's wrong is wrong.

[creepycreeper]

I've been telling women to check their privilege for years. And finally, one of them does it.

www.quickmeme.com/.../...52cd66affca9154886b83.jpg

[CottonMuffin]

Poor car ;/ ..

[FatherJack]

Legal privileges www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a11510-the-girl-who-cried-rape A woman can accuse a man of anything & a man is automatically guilty , unless proven innocent. Men are looked down on as lesser beings in Western " society " Thank you for posting this take & lookin at our POV , yes there are downsides to being female too , but the deck is more stacked against guys than girls.

[Supermosh1990]

Exactly, then is one thing that is true.

[FatherJack]

It appears that some girlies don't like the cold , hard truth !! They know damn well they can ruin a man's life on a mere say-so , divorce court rulings are another example of legislation favouring females , plus women get away with crimes that men will be jailed for several years for. Even my 8 year old daughter knows this !!!

[Curiousteenguy]

This is actually true. Men don't really judge other guys but girls do. Their are pros and cons of being a man or woman. All of them even out. This is totally true and I agree! I'm only 13 and I can notice the differences. Though both genders have cons and both have pros. It's just life. Like how girls have periods and men can easily get itchy around the testical area. Life is life, we are all human!

[PilsburyGirl]

I definitely agree with that. I think instead of everyone complaining about it we should just do what makes us happy and not care so much about what other people think.

[LuckyLittleLucy]

You pretty much hit the nail on the head.

[Curiousteenguy]

thanks! ;)

[RHEC4LIFE18]

You missed that women get less jail time.
It's a known fact that a woman is not punished like a man when it comes to crime. She always gets a lighter sentence most of the time.
Women are less likely to get death penalty.
Other than that, right on que.

[BeeNee]

good point

[koko124]

Not just jail time, but women are far less likely to even be arrested in the first place. In general, if you compare the advantages whites have to blacks, the same advantages apply to women vs. men.

nomajeet.wordpress.com/.../

[RHEC4LIFE18]

Good point @koko124.

[DeltaDanner]

Good myTake! Pretty brave to admit these. I would like to see one about guys to compare to this one. I think posts like these need to be made by the gender it is related to. Men don't want women telling them about problems they face, how to be a "real man", and what their privelages are (same vice versa)
Some I would add are child custody/support, divorce, and jail time. Most of the time women get the children by default, even if they are not the best parent of the two. A man still has to pay for the children even if he was raped, the children weren't his, or he didn't want the kids. Girl doesn't want the child? Abort, or put up for adoption. Man doesn't want the kid? Suck it up and pay for it. Divorce pretty much always ends with the guy losing everything to the woman. Also women get less time for the same crime. Women can get away with rape, and have before.
Good myTake

[Anonymous]

Here's one -

Girl in bikini - No one bats an eyelid. Totally normal and accepted by both sexes. The more flesh shown the better. Doesn't matter if there's a little muffin top cause guys aren't worried about that. Won't be judged harshly by guys.

Guy in speedos - People will stare and be repulsed. Automatically assumed gay or creepy. Only 1 out of 100 girls will approve. Must be extremely toned and ripped to even get approval. Better cover up as much flesh as possible including a rash guard and big long heavy shorts so as not to offend anyone.

That's my take anyway lol. What do you think?

[Anonymous]

I'm just going to say that we deserve to connect with that human baby first since we have to carry all that extra weight for months and suffer from it.
Most of the reasons you listed are valid though, even though several of them meant the exact same and you could have summed many of them as one point.
I don't get why guys can't be a little feminine? I find it hot if guy is fine with his feminine side and shows it. I'm not very feminine myself and I'm shamed for that and I hate how people judge guys for not being "masculine enough".

[Anpu23]

Well done, there are a few you missed, one big one is men have no rights to disavow their offspring. Only a woman can abandon a child, a man is always financially responsible for his children even in cases of rape.
Another one os for a man to vote, get government aid etc, he must register for the draft, women are not forced to risk military conscription.

[Ozanne]

Poor rapists. :(

[johnny_hustle]

@Ozanne I'm pretty sure when @Anpu23 said "even in cases of rape" he's referring to when a guy is raped by a woman and the female rapist ends up pregnant and has a baby, the guy may still be financially responsible for that child.

[Anpu23]

@Ozanne yes Johnny_huste is correct, such as when those women held that guy up at gunpoint and jacked him off for his spern, if one or both of them gets pregnant he will be financially responsible for the kids.

[anon4122]

I may be wrong but I immediately assumed @Ozanne was just calling men as a whole rapists because well that is what feminists do when we point out that being a male is not equivalent to being a monarch in 16th century Britain.

[BeeNee]

I can't speak for Ozanne, but I'm pretty sure she meant, if a man rapes a woman, then he sure as hell should be responsible for if that woman gets pregnant and that care of that child because it wasn't by her choice in the first place, hence a sarcastic, "poor rapists." However, in the example of the women holding up some guy to rape him off his sperm, that's a poor example because in order to get child support, they would have to admit that they raped this man in the first place, i. e. admit to committing a crime which only a really stupid person would do.

[Ozanne]

Thanks, BeeNee, that is exactly how that was to be taken. As if I would call all men rapists.

[Anpu23]

Not necessarily, you are assuming that the rape was:
Reported, believed, and prosecuted.
here's an example, guy is at a party, gets drunk passes out. While he's out a girl rides him for her pleasure, he has no knowledge of it. 9 months later he gets a paternity test request from the state. He has been named a father, he submits his DNA thinking how can I be the father, I don't even know this girl? Comes back positive, what does he do? If he claims rape, she just claims that he's trying to get out of financial responsibility, no one believes him, and he can't prove it, as female on male rape is rarely believed.

[Anpu23]

@Ozanne I meaan specifically male victims of rape, I don't care about male perpetrators, but victims have no legal recourse to disavow a child even if they were raped. Even if she is found guilty of the crime (rare, but it does happen) he still nust support the child.

[Ozanne]

Okay well that wasn't clear. I apologize.

[Anpu23]

@Ozanne No I should apologize, I spend so much of my time on this site advocating for male victims of sexual crimes that I forget that most people automatically assume that she is the victim. It's one of the things I am trying so hard to change. Thanks for reminding me.

[Ozanne]

Accepted if you accept mine. :)

[Anpu23]

If course, accepted. And well met.

[Anpu23]

@Ozanne

[BeeNee]

@Anpu23 Rape just sucks for both men and women, but there are so many cases of rape where men are the rapist and women are the victims where they aren't believed either and have to go through extraordinary circumstances to prove that they were especially if drugs or alcohol were involved whether they were aware they were taking it or not. So I don't think this is a 'win' for either sex. Both are at a heavy disadvantage when it comes to rape. I will however agree that a man being accused is far more likely to be assumed to be a rapist than a woman being accused of rape, mainly due to anatomy. There are yes, a lot of people who still believe that a woman cannot rape a man.

[Anpu23]

I agree with you, rape sucks. What I am talking about is the legal right to disavow a child. Men are ALWAYS financially responsible for their offspring. Even if it was a child that they had no intrest in creating. A raped woman can abort, put the child up for adoption, or raise it her choice, but a child from a rape where the man was the victim he has absolutely no say in the future of that child and is legally required to pay for its support.

[Anpu23]

Here are a few others
www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q1594531-5-legal-rights-that-women-have-that-men-do-not

[BeeNee]

@Anpu23 your statement makes complete sense now that you explain it. I thought you were referring to men who rape, but in the reverse, yes, I've now read the law in such cases which legally explain that anyone who is under the age of 15, cannot legally consent to having sex. Courts consider this rape whether it man girl or woman boy. However if a child is produced from the sexual act, the courts in the few cases that exist, reason that it is not the woman whom the man is paying child support for, but the child who had no fault in the crime. However, in the reverse, if a woman were raped and a man was asking for child support, you'd be hard pressed to find any court or jury to agree that she should pay him.

[checkyesjulietx]

A comprehensive list and a reminder of how privileged we are in society.

I have another - when two parents separate the mother gets almost automatic custody of the kids.

[BeeNee]

That's another big one especially if the father is a great father who wants to be active in his children's lives.

[checkyesjulietx]

Yes it's tragic especially when the father clearly does a better job parenting

[ruskodisco]

cough males commit 4x more suicide them females cough

[checkyesjulietx]

@ruskodisco why are you saying 'cough' as if i haven't acknowledged the privileges females have?

[ruskodisco]

I didn't mean it as an attack on you.

[Takada]

Yeah, I have to agree with all of these things. It would be a lot easier if people stopped picking on guys who display "feminine" characteristics. And many guys who complain about these issues are the same guys who pick on other guys for not being manly enough.

[Kirah]

Don't forget the big one: our advantages in dating.

Men are traditionally expected to ask the woman out, and men are expected to pay. Women usually don't need to do any work or take any risks to find a boyfriend, someone will come along and ask us out.

[nalaa]

A lot of your points boil down to guys being seen as too feminine or not as real men if they were to do the same.

That does NOT make women privileged. It's society telling it's better to be a man and masculine than a girl and having feminine traits

[QooLipBite]

This list is OBVIOUSLY opinion based. Infact, based on one person's opinion because the source of it originates from only one person.

Many of the 'priviledges' that you get may not apply to men. I'm sure you'll find many guys who will read this but not be drawn to desire those 'priviledges'

And number 6, the park thing 😂😂😂 what? What is this? 😂👏😂👏

[BeeNee]

Sigh... why do people never fully read what people say in their takes. I clearly said this may or may not apply to all men/women in my intro... literally one of the first things I said, so you can take a deep breath, its going to be okay. There are a lot of women who assume that men are all just a bunch of pedophiles and if they see one alone at a park at a playground, they assume that they are there for wrong doing and will call the cops even if the person is doing nothing. Again, may not happen in your area, but some other people have already agreed that they've witnessed this or seen this, so I'm not the only one.

[QooLipBite]

Whatever makes you sleep at night 😂😘

[BeeNee]

being tired usually does the trick. Thanks for your comments!

[QooLipBite]

Ncaww, no problem! It was a pleasure 😘