What I Have To Say In Response To Accusations Against We As A Society Of The Objectification Of Females

[JohnAnonDoe]

These problems are all just a dire dire consequence of the overarching medial issues of celebrity culture (or, as I like to call it, celebrityism) and overexposure. Without celebrity culture, individual idols would not be followed for their beliefs and opinions, their lifestyle choices or grandiose behaviour, but for what they produce and its benefit and influence in itself on the world.

For example, Robert Downey Jr is amazing at what he does, but if we look into his personal life and follow what he does on a day to day basis, idolise it and all begin to do it as though it's a trend (indeed, it would then be a trend) then we would likely run into societal problems. Of course, that's not a comment on the behaviour of Downey Jr, but a comment on the social mechanism; it requires vastly different people that work in different ways, but it seems as though those who bubble up to the top do so by a skill set or visual discrepancy; not often anything to do with who they are.

Unfortunately, modern pop musicians are often where the problems begin, which upsets me because it means that any tiny bit of respect I might have had for pop dies with that fact. Regardless of taste, however, we can all agree that these people are imperfectly perfect; expertly modelled to look exactly how they 'should', though they have often selected the wrong target to aim for.

Therefore, when people decide that the person is the bigger part of the fame as opposed to whatever material they create or service they provide, the whole system of media goes wrong and pushes the person ahead of their material. this ends up glorifying them, and those who are more susceptible to the whims of the celebrity culture find themselves in increasingly bad situations.

Now this, of course, would not be a problem if it were not for the overexposure to media in general that we all - though the more suggestible youth especially - are subject to and advance ourselves.

(Note the above white part of the clock that many people, me included, thought at first to be the time left doing other stuff - even in an article about media intake, the media have rigged an image to cause it to give an overly powerful influence over any readers)

Naturally, talking about the media is something that takes up a significant chunk of conversation. Different people might talk about different forms more than others (games, news, TV shows and films, music, visual art, books, blogs, sports, etc,) but almost all of us are interested in some form of media. Being connected to only one form will, needless to say, lead to other forms being exposed, and soon we all fall back to seeing things on social media or TV that are to do with various celebrities.

This, of course, is the method by which these diseases spread. It only takes one celebrity's suggestion as to what people should eat or drink or say or do or act like for a surge of activity to carry it through the online world before almost everyone who's plugged in has heard of it by way of mouth or wire. Then, those at their weakest point when they are most susceptible to change, feel that new idea is their way out - their way to gain the respect of their peers, even the world. Now that's not to belittle or hide the 'objectification of women', but in my opinion it must be admitted that it isn't the average person who commits such an act, but the world of media itself.

[Spiorad_Aisce]

I agree with where you are going about the celebrities and the media providing the example but there is also logic to the argument about women being objectified. Strip it completely down and push it to extreme, young girl thinks I want to be famous, how do I do it, become an object, become an idol for the next young girl who wants to be famous. The circle is perpetuated so how do we break the circle to be honest I don't know.
Until a sizeable percentage say I don't want that the media will push it, is it deep rooted male misogyny I don't think so but as you say it is being aided by the acquiescence of today's youth which doesn't help.
Like so many of these "Issues" I see a long road ahead to a solution but some push too hard for a solution wuickly and aggravate people who may in other circumstances be on their side. Say for example why are feminists and MRAs at each others throat, aren't they both seeking to improve the position of all members of the human race at the bottom of it all yet they insist on splintering to spend time attacking each other while their ultimate aim of a better world for all drifts further away.

[aliceinwonderland69]

Men have been objectifying women for a lot longer than they have had smartphones.

[JohnAnonDoe]

I'l;l give you that, but that doesn't mean today's men have, and I'm not calling smartphones the problem. My finger-pointing is directly at the media and overexposure to it as well as at the celebrity-culture of the populous of all first world countries with large populations.

[Anonymous]

The most passionate relationships I have ever had all involved a healthy, even heavy dose of objectifying women. That objectification has made the woman wetter and happier, whatever intellectual opinions she has had about the matter. I am certain the same goes for you in your relationship history. The rosy, sanitized vision of romance women often claim they want, or say they want to confuse men, is nothing but a furphy. Accordingly, I will stop treating women like objects when they stop getting wet when I treat them like objects. Deal?
Of course, feminists are already hard at work trying to counter women’s natural inclinations. Appalled at the willingness of women to subject themselves to objectification porn like Fifty Shades of Grey, they are continuing to erect college regulations and even proper legislation to penalize the slightest form of male sexual activity. Has a woman voluntarily pulled down your pants and started giving you a blowjob? Hold on, soldier, that’s not nearly enough, especially for regular coitus. Where’s your notarized document, certified only after a five-hour cooling off period?
Inasmuch as many women having these beliefs foisted on them is outright brainwashing, not reversing deep-seated biological drives, for the present purposes I will pretend this constitutes women not getting wet when objectified. But what about all the other women?
Even as the SJWs march down on common sense again and again, the responses you get from women are invariably better when you demonstrate that they are, in large part, an object for you. By treating her as an object, you are saying that she is not unconditionally eternal in your life, nor are any feelings you have for her. If she misbehaves unacceptably, falls out of line beyond normal human foibles, or otherwise substantially disappoints you, you are very likely gone and she assumes a similar lack of relevance for you compared to before you knew each other. So why the hell should you stop doing this, if it works?
Some good, by no means exhaustive examples of how objectifying behavior can coincide with women getting sexually aroused or romantically attracted include:
Painful spanking of her buttocks. The pain itself is part and parcel of the arousal or attraction (but remember, it has a limit);
Calling her a slut, whore, bitch, piece of meat, or something analogous, including prior to and after sex. Oftentimes saying it outside the bedroom illustrates the objectification point much better as man

[Geometry]

I am not exactly sure what this is saying because of the wording but when the argument of objecting women comes up some people blame men but it really isn't the case. If famous women would stop wearing and acting As they currently do then their would be little objectification. Get enough big names to agree that they will change and then we have progress. I saw another user comment about what young girls think when they want to be famous, and I totally agree with that train of thought. Unfortunately feminism in certain countries has gone completely nuts and is just blaming people and shutting down people they don't agree with. They aren't targeting the problem. And since most people are decent people we follow along with whatever feminists say in order to make a better world. Sadly that's the wrong path. Eventually people will realize what to do and stop this victimizing and blaming and ruining innocent people's lives.

[juliaanita]

Is feminism really the wrong path? why?
Just asking.

[Geometry]

@juliaanita No feminism isn't the wrong path, it's just that feminism isn't going down the right path to achieve its goal. That's all.