@Words_and_Wisdom that is completely wrong. Almost every president and presidential candidate has released their tax returns as a show of good faith. Trump has not.
@John_Doesnt You're missing the point that @Words_and_Wisdom is making. Take a breath and re-read what he put. Paying taxes and releasing tax returns are 2 different things.
@Botchie he's the only president in a long time who hasn't released his tax returns. He's most likely dodging paying them. He complains about poor people taking away taxes, but he never pays his. He's a liar, a criminal, sexist and failed business man.
@John_Doesnt You had a compelling argument until you stated your last line. Leave that out and you have a solid argument. As for the dodging taxes point you make, doesn't everybody? It'd be illegal for him to not file a return at all, but as for taking advantage of the system? Everybody does. Unless you mean to tell me you've never taken a tax credit your whole life. It's just not as apparent for people like us who don't make as much money.
Actually, Clinton began losing votes at a record rate when votes were recounted in several states. They stopped the voter recount when they realized how badly Clinton actually lost.
@Words_and_Wisdom Nope, this isn't true. She won the popular vote no matter what. Even if she lost votes in a recount, the three million vote deficit wouldn't be closed.
@EnglishArtsteacher She lost tens of thousands in only 3 states who recounted. Not to mention the blatant election fraud that went on in California. If all the states recounted their votes, Clinton would have lost by millions.
You can even see it by who attended her rallies, especially as opposed to Bernie Sanders, and as opposed to Trump.
That's tens of thousands... in 3 states... that didn't finish voter recounts. Are you not even listening? Or is your liberal bias messing with your head?
Same here, I was completely fine with the fact Trump won up until I found out that the majority of people didn't actually vote for him and he won based on an outdated system so essentially he was chosen for us, not chosen by us. State rights trumped the voices of the individuals. That system has to go... the Electoral College makes no sense in modern times in which we can mail in ballots, drive cars to elections and get information by the touch of a button. I am a registered Republican by the way and if this had been the other way around I would have been sick to my stomach as well... it's wrong.
@Words_and_Wisdom Sir are you delusional or did you see the gap between the candidates?
@flypaper it's extremely fucked up and is the only reason conservatives seem to win elections these days. It's saddening this is the world that they think we have to live in.
It's not the only way they can win, it's just the easy win. If they got out and attempted to appeal to a larger group of people they'd have better luck. Most people don't fit perfectly into Republican, Democrat, Conservative or Liberal many people have beliefs on both sides of the isle, if they played the game right it could be open season.
You don't have to agree with him. Hell, you don't have to like him. You have to respect the office of the Presidency, regardless of who holds it. I did for The last 8 years.
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I honestly can't wait for trump to bring back patriarchy.
I pay taxes for that a*hole who doesn't pay his own taxes.
90% of people in Congress don't pay their own taxes. Moot point.
@Words_and_Wisdom that is completely wrong. Almost every president and presidential candidate has released their tax returns as a show of good faith. Trump has not.
@John_Doesnt You're missing the point that @Words_and_Wisdom is making. Take a breath and re-read what he put. Paying taxes and releasing tax returns are 2 different things.
@Botchie he's the only president in a long time who hasn't released his tax returns. He's most likely dodging paying them. He complains about poor people taking away taxes, but he never pays his.
He's a liar, a criminal, sexist and failed business man.
@John_Doesnt You had a compelling argument until you stated your last line. Leave that out and you have a solid argument. As for the dodging taxes point you make, doesn't everybody? It'd be illegal for him to not file a return at all, but as for taking advantage of the system? Everybody does. Unless you mean to tell me you've never taken a tax credit your whole life. It's just not as apparent for people like us who don't make as much money.
@Botchie I think I've deduced that you're a closeted homosexual who is releasing his sexual frustrations on this website.
@John_Doesnt If that helps you sleep at night. Sure. I'll be gay or bi depending on whatever helps you. Not sure why you'd use that as an insult tho.
My biggest issue is that Hillary got the popular vote.
Actually, Clinton began losing votes at a record rate when votes were recounted in several states. They stopped the voter recount when they realized how badly Clinton actually lost.
@Words_and_Wisdom Nope, this isn't true. She won the popular vote no matter what. Even if she lost votes in a recount, the three million vote deficit wouldn't be closed.
@EnglishArtsteacher She lost tens of thousands in only 3 states who recounted. Not to mention the blatant election fraud that went on in California. If all the states recounted their votes, Clinton would have lost by millions.
You can even see it by who attended her rallies, especially as opposed to Bernie Sanders, and as opposed to Trump.
@Words_and_Wisdom Dude Trump lost by millions, not ten thousand. She won the popular vote.
Apparently farmers are more human beings than cities are
That's tens of thousands... in 3 states... that didn't finish voter recounts.
Are you not even listening? Or is your liberal bias messing with your head?
Same here, I was completely fine with the fact Trump won up until I found out that the majority of people didn't actually vote for him and he won based on an outdated system so essentially he was chosen for us, not chosen by us. State rights trumped the voices of the individuals. That system has to go... the Electoral College makes no sense in modern times in which we can mail in ballots, drive cars to elections and get information by the touch of a button. I am a registered Republican by the way and if this had been the other way around I would have been sick to my stomach as well... it's wrong.
@Words_and_Wisdom Sir are you delusional or did you see the gap between the candidates?
@flypaper it's extremely fucked up and is the only reason conservatives seem to win elections these days. It's saddening this is the world that they think we have to live in.
It's not the only way they can win, it's just the easy win. If they got out and attempted to appeal to a larger group of people they'd have better luck. Most people don't fit perfectly into Republican, Democrat, Conservative or Liberal many people have beliefs on both sides of the isle, if they played the game right it could be open season.
@flypaper The problem with the Republican Party was a downward spiral through the 90s and the 2000s. Result: Bush lol
You don't have to agree with him. Hell, you don't have to like him. You have to respect the office of the Presidency, regardless of who holds it. I did for The last 8 years.
well, you still have to pay taxes, so in a way, you do.
to believe that the man's going to fuck up is not the same as hoping he will.
I hope the liberals and feminists keep on crying for the next 4 years. Screwt hem.
Oh and conservatives didn't whine the whole 8 years Obama was in office?
@bloodmountain1990 Of course, because Obama was a cunt.
Mind elaborating on that?
You should LOVE him: he makes America GREAT AGAIN.
That's something you should be grateful for.
This exactly good that someone actually gets it
I don't owe Trump the sweat off of my balls.
Thank you