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MGTOW and Feminism are both bullcrap
The gender war won't be ending any time soon as more feminists aim for special treatment under the law. More men will go MGTOW
Then there's me, who just wants to work, make money, be with my girlfriend, die without all this crap
MGTOW doesn't develop in a vaccuum.
MGTOW is NOT a true movement , just a very loose online collective of burnt men , there is no leadership / central planning.
No it's not a movement, it's a lifestyle.
@Regular1 Yes it is , I'm a FT working single dad , so will be staying single as do not have the time , money & above all , inclination to go dating , but you will not find me in multiple forums bitching about women... what's the point , that is counterproductive !! If a man wishes to be female free.. then just do it , most single women are single by choice Women certainly do not give a flying one !!
Just want to put this out there, equality shouldn't exist between the sexes because we are biologically very different.
But other than that it's nice to see a women who doesn't slam the misogynist card on MGTOW just because someone said it's sexist.
interesting read. well it's kinda like that in japan i guess but people aren't forming groups and being vocal about it.
Damn, I've been a cult member for 12 years without even realizing the cult existed. Go MGTOW's!
What about Childfree bro? I'm all for people goin' childfree and stop procreating, reduce further support for the system and further strain on our planet's finite amount of resources as at some point it's not going to be able to sustain 8, 9, 10, or perhaps 12 or 13 billion humans. So if the results of MGTOW and feminazis resulted in significantly fewer births, it might just actually be a "good" thing and necessary evil.
@JudgmentDay Yeah that's true. If fact about 1-1.5 billion is about what is sustainable if you want them all living a decent existence (like a middle class American). With 13B the life expectancy is going drop to like 45-50 due to starvation and disease and fighting over who gets what is left and most will be living like rats (ie like most people in Malawi) up to that point. I've never had kids and never will. They cost about $200k each to properly raise to 18 and I have better things to spend that on, bigger picture aside.
@IEat70sBush the cost became that way all fucking thanks to the uneven distribution of wealth and greed and corruption within the system. It's all fucked up anyhow and those that aren't at the very top of the system are pretty much slaves to debt and the majority is still sound asleep and have no realization of this. Those that have the power and authority to create money control money, they just loan that shit into existence to governments.
"At this point in history virtually every human on this planet is enslaved whether they know it or not. This is not the crude and primitive slavery of ancient times, it does not rely on whips and shackles to keep the oppressed in their place. These tools have been rendered obsolete by much more sophisticated methods.
That most of the enslaved are unaware of their condition and would in fact argue fiercely that they are free is a testament to the effectiveness of these invisible chains."
@JudgmentDay Societies, by and large, increase their birthrates when the perception is that there are good times ahead. (Acknowledging that greater affluence tends to diminish childbearing.)
My belief is that it's the result of stupid people and nothing can actually stop stupidity.
lmao, 👌 👌👌
Nothing except stupider stupid which is what I feel mgtow is.
@Wwwyzzerdd I see you like the Aqua Teens.
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You could win a porsche!
Yea.. well... too bad. If you don't like the modern dating scene, don't date.
The us vs them mentality is very natural and commonplace unfortunately.
An evolution of the paranoid conservative who thinks he knows who his persecutors are. https://i.imgur.com/lna1S8P.jpg
My penis is way bigger than it was 50 years ago!
@Bezbozhnikustanka Rush Limbaugh feels another difference :D (Is that why he smuggled Viagra?)
I like this a lot and find it a pretty fair argument. Dont sway in life and stay this level headed
I agree. I also came to the same conclusion that MGTOW is a defense mechanism for guys who feel hurt or taken advantage of rather than a healthy choice to be happily single
@Idonthaveausername Not necessarily because it consists of all types. Some guys go Mgtow due to losing everything through divorce, others due to poor luck with women etc. But some still date (but won't marry or cohabit). And I know some guys that get a lot of attention from women but remain single and don't seem to respond to any of it (actively), but at the same time I notice them checking out women all around (they look but don't touch).
I also know guys that have lost their homes due to divorce but they still remarry.
@Truthatanycost
My only interaction with MGTOWS has been on this site. I have yet to me a real one in real life. (I think I met one, but he's just bitter and angry that he can't get laid because he's fat, ugly, and a misogynistic asshole, so let's not count him)
There are faults with both. But understand that MGTOW doesn't even hold a candle to the political power of feminism. You can't really compare them apples to apples.
I recommend you watch the "red pill" on Amazon.
The good old days when Nazis were the issue right...
I could not finish this polemic. Verbose. Tangents spewing off into the ether. Remember concision and efficiency in regards to word choice.
People who are MGTOW are bunch of snowflakes and are living in their parent's basement.
Do you even know what MGTOW is libtard?
@somewheresomeway Libtard lol, you don't know how to spell?
I pay my own bills, live in a two bedroom house by myself. Veteran. I pay for my food, care, and entertainment all via my own income. I am CEO of my own startup company. You're argument is invalid.
@Wwwyzzerdd And you're a crybaby.
I make a 6 digit income, own my 3bd/4ba house and am a retired pro MMA fighter.
However I will say if you really are a veteran I respect that. But I'm very surprised with your remark.
Sorry @wwwyzzerdd, I thought you were arguing with me. Yeah I highly doubt @SupMates has done much with his life.
@somewheresomeway I won a basketball championship and was a club officer for DECA in college. Also, I'm rising in my job. I do not spend my life hating the world like you two lol
I'm Jesus. Did I win? I think I won.
@Silver158 Are you not whiny snowflakes like these two? If so, you won
more commenting on these two saying they're pro mma fighters and basketball players etc. Bullshit bragging essentially. Also, I wrestled a bear once.
Nice bait mate.
Alright nobody respects a fucking crybaby. I get that. I think guys from my father's generation chalked up feminism as nothing but loud, fat ugly bitches whining about "perceived" injustices when in reality they just couldn't get a man. They focused on doing their own thing and I didn't pay any attention to it. But did that make feminism go away? Nah it only intensified into the law changing, education manipulating, whore worshipping, Hollywood brainwashing hate movement it is today.
So go ahead and say MGTOW is for bitches all you want. But if you ever get in a divorce and lose custody of your kids to your cheating wife or find yourself guilty until proven innocent just because a woman "feels" you wronged her than you might find MGTOW wasn't such a bad idea after all.
simple fact is women need to change for gender relations to improve.
" They're justified. Centuries of abuse and women are finally taking a stand."
You're talking about your ass. Men have died in wars and the suffragettes bullied boys to go to war.
MGTOW Was created by punch of crybabies who would like women to be their slaves.
They want to be free from women, not enslave them.
@ThisDudeHere sure then why are they bitching? Leave women alone
That is exactly what they want and try to do but women are the ones birthing about them and not leaving then alone.
Weak argument. Like women are creating babies ALONE.
I meant *bitching not birthing.
And you're completely derailing the subject. We're not talking about birthing, we're talking about MGTOWs wanting to be alone, but they're being annoyed by feminists.
That's strange. I know a few Mgtow and they don't even date. I'm not sure how they plan to enslave people they don't even talk to...
@Truthatanycost those men aren't Nothing But bitches then. Stay single
Calling someone a bitch is not an argument.
@ThisDudeHere I wish women would stop leaving me alone.
@Bezbozhnikustanka no women wants you BYE!
@Bezbozhnikustanka When did they stop leaving you alone?
Yet again only ad-hominens.
i know that i will come out on top with my family and my future wife and my future kids. no need for feminism, no need for me to go my own way.
Mgtow and feminism are two sides of the same coin
like 2 arms working for the destruction of family oriented society, right?
No they are not the same. Feminism was started a long time ago in response to actual problems facing women. MGTOW was started recently by cry baby men who didn't like that women were getting equality. Only people who resort to straw man arguments and like pointing to specific people as "proof" can make a claim that MGTOW is anything similar to feminism.
This was a good read. Very thoughtful.