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well I would say it's more about attitude toward the matter. if someone just happens to prefer the aesthetics and it more likely to be attracted to a certain ethnic background, then no, that's not racism, that just happens to be the case. but if someone were to think "no, I can't go out with that person because they are not my preferred race." then yes, it absolutely is.
there's a difference between not liking someone because they're short or because they have a certain hairstyle and not liking someone because of the colour of his/her skin.
It is unfair to say "eww all Indian guys are bad and ugly" such attitude is racist and not a "preference". a lot of women try to justify their bigotry by saying things like "i had bad experiences with (insert race) therefore I hate them all.
Would you go out with an 80 year old woman?
@Rissyanne
No but I don't believe an 80 year old woman is inferior to me.
When did I say black men was inferior to me? Tell me why you won't date an 80 year old woman?
Of course it is not racist. I have had so many people on here call me a racist because I said I wasn't attracted to black men. It was almost like they wanted to bully me into dating someone I didn't want to.
It's one thing to say I haven't been attracted to somebody but to refuse to date them is well.. Kinda racist.. LOL..
@JDavid25 why would I date someone I'm not attracted to? Would you date an 80 year old woman?
Hahahaha.. I didn't say you had to, I said it's always good to have an opened mind.. I'm sure out of the billions of non-"White" guys you would be attracted to a couple no problem.. Haha.. And, bad comparison.. 80 year old women most times are not attractive, nor could they give me kids, or do other things with me soo no.. Haha..
@JDavid25 Answer the question. Why would YOU date an 80 year old woman? And are you saying you should only date a person that would give me children? lol
I already answered the question.. I gave you reasons why I wouldn't date an 80 year old woman.. She's not attractive, I can't do things ride roller coasters, sky dive, workout, play around with me most times, and she can't give me kids if I want some.. And no I ain't sayin I should date somebody only if they would give me children.. I'm sayin if I wanted to marry her, and the time came she couldn't give me children..
@JDavid25 so you are entitled to your preferences but not me? Because that is what it is a preference. I am not attracted to black men. But according to you I should be shamed or bullied into dating black men.
Well, you are comparing me not being attracted to 80 year old women which is natural.. There very good reasons why I shouldn't be attracted to somebody who can fall over at any moment, and why I should be attracted to women my age.. Where as yours there's no natural reason, and most likely are based on stereotypes, and racial implications.. And you make it seem as if it's impossible for you to possibly be attracted to non "White" men, which in itself is racist.. haha.. But I don't know what you're readin into, but nothin I said was implyin that you had to date non "White" men.. You are completely entitled to yo racial biases that don't mean you are a bad person, just means that you have prejudice "preferences".. Or that yo "preferences" are politely racist..
@JDavid25 and you are entitled to being a ageist
Pulease.. Most 80 year old women wouldn't date a young dude like me anyways.. LOL.. And, I would date an 80 year old woman if she had a nice body, decently high libido, and the functions of a younger woman.. And ageism is naturally if you puttin like that.. Nice try though.. Haha.. I think you would feel that somethin was wrong with me if I were chasing an 80 year old woman..
@JDavid25 if you can tell me I'm a racist I can call you an ageist. Let me ask you this... would you date a woman your age but if she weighed 350 lbs?
Well, you really can't call me that since it's different.. Haha.. And why do you keep makin these horrible comparisons. Are you sayin that you find not likin "White" men similar to me not likin obese women or women old enough to be my grandma? Cause then that's definitely racist.. LOL.. Like I said it don't mean you are a bad, and despicable person.. Just means that yo "preferences" have racist implications.. And no I wouldn't date a 300 lb woman.. LOL..
@JDavid25 ok so you can have preferences but other people can't. Gotcha. Unless you say you would date anyone.. and I mean anyone. You can't say anything about my preferences.
I've met many women lately who easily resort to the "age card" saying "Would you date an 80 year old woman" or "Why do you prefer to date younger women over older ones..." etc... That's not a logical argument at all... The 80 year old woman, WAS ONCE YOUNG she didn't born as an 80 year old granny... The black man/woman , or Asian man/woman or whatever man/woman never had the chance to be white, he or she just born that way so age preference =/= race/skin colour preference...
@Odysseas The thing is... it doesn't matter. What are you going to do bully people? So you can have preferences and no one else can? It is someone's preference who they want to date. You sound like a liberal wanting to dictate what everyone should think and who they should be with. Just like I wouldn't date a man that was bisexual.
You aren't applying for a loan or a job. This is someone's personal life. They have the right to date who they want without giving an explanation.
You've made a vary quick assumption while reading my post. I am not dictating to anyone who should or should not date... I am just indicating the logical fallacy to compare a skin colour based preference to an age one. You see a more logical comparative question could be "Would you date a six fingered woman?". You see the six fingered woman was always like that (like skin colour, unless you are Michaele Jackson ;P) in contrast to the 80 year old lady who was once in her prime.
@Odysseas Like I said.. the bottom line is that is just a preference. There is no need to get your feelings hurt. You dont want to date 80 year old women and I dont want to date black men.
I am not judging you for not wanting to date black men... My post was all about the logical fallacy of comparing age with skin colour. Anyway me personally I am white and I don't have any racial preferences. First of all because I am Greek and it's not in our culture to give any shit about those things and secondly because I am a sailor and I've seen beautiful women of any colour and race all around the world so... my philosophy is "pussy doesn't have an ethnicity" ;P.
@Odysseas And that is your preference.
Rissyanne... You are clearly takin things out that I never said.. I said you can have whatever racial biases you want.. And most of what you said are my biases not preferences.. But they are logical biases.. Whereas you keep defendin yoself by sayin that since we have preferences for things that we should preferences or biases for and think you are makin a case for yourself.. Haha.. It's not smart lady... Me havin natural biases is different from you sayin it's impossible for you to be attracted to another human male of another group.. Which we know it's not.. I'm sure over yo life you've been attracted to non "White" males.. You just talkin ish over the net.. Like I said ain't nobody bullyin you to do anything.. I'm just sayin yo "preferences" are racist.. You can stay datin only "White" guys all you want.. I don't care..
@JDavid25 Ok little dude... I am done with this. muting
Aight you have a good day lady..
No , preferences are hard wired , even as a child , was always drawn to the more Mediterranean type look , the mother of my children is Italian. I'm a mixture of Hungarian / Ukrainian & Scots / Irish , giving my unusual change colour green /blue eyes. I'm tired of the word racist being obsessively bounced around & ONLY aimed at European descent people !! Bigots come in all types !!
An actually preference for certain features, as to where it's not easy for you to become attracted to a person with the features that are the opposite ain't racist.. You can't help it.. But to refuse to date certain groups is racist.. Because there's always a reason why you feel that way.. Most likely stereotypical.. Or at the very least it's not a preference anymore and is really a racial bias..
It is *NOT* racist to prefer dating a certain type/s of people. Racism is when you use *SOLELY* someones race to separate them or you from other races in some way, usually offensive. As long as you're not throwing racial slurs at every person you refuse to date, no, it's not racist.
No, of course not. People have different preferences, and it's better for people to be together because they both want it. I've had a number of interracial relationships but I understand that not everyone is as comfortable with that or wants to date or marry within their own race.
No, it's not racist. You are attracted to whatever you like. If you aren't attracted to a specific race then so be it. You can't force it.
For example: I am not attracted to African American men. I'm not being racist about it, but my body does not get "turn on" thinking of black men. I get turned on thinking of lighter (whiter) skinned guys. Can I help this? No.
Haha it's funny how we always the first ones people mention when they talk about not being attracted to certain groups.. SMH..
I don't know if I'm racist or not. I seem to be attracted to white men only. I don't treat other races any more different other than that I do not fantasise about getting sexual with them. It isn't harming them, so I guess I don't feel especially bad about it. And I'm open to it if I start wanting that. It isn't like a principal, that I do not wanna have sex with a black guy because he's a "criminal".
If you finds certain facial features, colors and body builds more attractive than others and therefor have preference it's fine. It's true some features are more common among some groups of people [race] than others.
Racism is a CHOICE
Preference is NOT. You can't control or decide what you like.
Racism refers to making classifying different races and saying which one is superior/inferior to the other.
Preference is who YOU personally choose to be your lover. THAT is something you have to be extremely selective and true about especially if you can't control what you desire.
I'm more physically attracted to western or eastern Europeans, but just because I'm usually not (can't say I wouldn't ever be) physically attracted to women from, let's say Nigeria, doesn't mean I don't like them as human beings. It's just a sexual preference that I have and should have no control over.
I'm not a big fan of chocolate with mint in it, I prefer milk chocolate just as it is... (Waiting for the mint community to come to my home and beat me up ;))
I don't thinks it's racist. Preferences means you can make exceptions and you believe those who don't fit you're preferences still have rights and are entitled to what they think. Ex. Lets say I prefer white girls but can make exceptions and I still believe non white girl deserves a nice great partner depending on her personality.
NO. as a black man I would say no. I think its just similaroty and sexual attraction. Having sexual lust for the same or opposite sex is a genetic preference of nature. Not necessarily racist. I have a preference to white girls. Some girls who are white really like black guys. But that doesn't mean that I refuse to date a great person of a certain race. Its just sexual fantasy preferences.
It's not racist. It's down to personal preference. We all have different views on what's attractive. You might as well ask if it's wrong to prefer Corn Flakes for breakfast over a fry-up.
Simples...
P. S. Just for the record, I prefer Corn Flakes.
No, racism is when you treat people differently based on their race.
Preferences are merely preferences. Some people like chocolate, I like pistachio.
No...
Only if your preferences are that way because you ARE racist...
Meaning if you won't date Asians because you dislike them simply because they're Asian.
I would not consider it racist unless it's based on a negative prejudice. But assuming it's based on physical attraction (which, let's face it, usually plays a role) I don't see any problems with it. Everyone has their preferences, some prefer a certain hair or eye colour, others a certain body type, etc. - so why should skin colour (given that it's not based on prejudice) be different?
I think we use the word "racist" too readily. True racism is looking down on or hating a person of another race simply because he or she is of that race. Not everything involving race is racism.
If you datin a race because they are that race it's pretty racist.. LOL..
Having a preference is just a preference and having a fetish is a mental disorder.
I wouldn't go so far as to call it a disorder since disorders are involuntary and have physiological effects on the person. I'd say fetishes are more akin to mental conditioning due to external circumstances.
Well fetishes do have their own diagnostic criteria in the DSM-5 and I think that conditioning can play a role in a lot of mental disorders and even overcoming them.
That being said, I will submit that fetishistic sexualization of race could be rooted in racism. Possibly as a way of sexualizing the fear or negative thoughts associated with other races as a way of coping with them.
Yeah but those are fetishistic disorders, examples being paraphilia and pedophilia. Fetishes by themselves aren't disorders but sure they can always escalate into full blown mental disorders.
The only thing that separates a harmless fetish from paraphilia is severity though. Fetishes are considered "harmless" unless they significantly impact the sufferer's daily life or their ability to function in society.
Indeed. After all everything does start out innocently enough.
Too true, that's why things seemingly get out of hand so easily.
I have OCD and it's really easy to slip up and get back into the habit of thoughts turning into rituals.
Yes it is racist, I had a guy try to tell me that calling me racial slurs was a sexual thing, thats him being confused about his attraction to me and trying assauge it with being a racist.
If you think someones skin tone regardless of their looks is something to harp on then yes, you are a racist.
Except skin tone is a part of someones looks. Do you suppose my eyes don't see a difference?
+ Differences in skin tone also mean a difference in that person's background.
A difference between a White European and a Black African.
Even if they both had the same skin tone they would still look different physically.