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Interesting educational take - I must admit I got lost in the history to think about your premise - First thing for me is I don't rate intelligence or IQ as that important, everyone has their own version of smarts - Take the valedictorian from Yale and put in the outback of Australia, he would be dead in a day without some help from an aboriginie native - Your argument probably holds water on a small scale but not enough to base future plans on it, there is every reason to believe there is people with high and low IQs in each race, all races should be given equal opportunity.
Some people nailed it - harsher climates like Europe and Asia require more "inventiveness" to make it through the winters. But someone should also remind the author that literally everything fundamental which Western Europe "invented" was borrowed or stolen from Asian and African cultures who evolved, rose and even fell a few times before Europeans ever built their first castles. We literally are all black. And as a black man with a higher IQ than anyone I've ever met, I find this entire thread to be spurious and possibly a dog-whistle to the unsavory knuckledraggers best left unnamed.
Mathematics - Africa and Asia
Medicine - Africa and Asia
Advanced Construction - Africa and Asia
all other cultures came afterwards. All borrowed from the darker souls in the East and the South. Polygonal masonry? Africa, Asia and South America. Pythagoras? Middle Eastern math with a Middle Eastern name. Pasta? Chinese... should I keep going?
This has more to do with culture and environmental upbringing, children being highly susceptible to early stimuli. We were not black when we were first in Africa although we dark, more like Indians. We also looked ever so slightly different.
Neanderthals were European, not Asian.
Homo sapiens and Neanderthals did mate and it has been proven.
Your intelligence can be affected by your parents, but is IQ hereditary? I'm not so sure about that. There is a lot of conflicting evidence that is also very complicated.
Also, regardless of this, IQ is not an accurate sign of intelligence believe it or not. This comes from a guy with an average IQ of 106-119
If IQ is not an accurate sign of intelligence maybe we can say IQ is an accurate sign of making money. High IQ strongly correlates with income.
@bamesjond0069 it can predict it but not guarantee it. There was a study where kids with levels around 96 compared with other kids that were the low hundreds. Their upbringing and social status meant much more than their IQ.
Every race has something special or significant to them. Asians - and Indians - do tend to be very technologically and mathematically intelligent, yes. Black people tend to have more strength, speed, inner resilience, and are more socially aware. Latin Spanish people do tend to be harder working people with more of a just-do-it attitude. And white people - although not perfectly - do try to create systems that are more liberal and can work for everybody.
Every race is different. I wouldn't ever say any one race is superior but every group does have something another doesn't.
However, you end your Take by putting down your black father as fat and lazy but raise your white mother on a pedestal. Don't get me wrong, as a black man myself I think black man-white woman relationships are great, but what you did there was kind of appalling, especially as there are many white males bothered by those relationships who love hearing you say that.
Oh. I understand how that may have come off a bit iffy. I just wanted to point out a funny contradiction to stereotypes. I didn't see a reason to go into other factors. Personaity wise my father makes up for his physical shortcomings he's also a brilliant musician. I just didn't want to include that because i felt like i would look like a showoff
Interesting thoughts. I can definitely see where you’re coming from, and nothing that I see here is particularly new to me, but you did give more information, and you did it in a very professional manner that didn’t at all seem racist.
I will say that I find IQs to be very subjective, if you’ve ever taken a test it’s a lot of vocabulary and recognition. So I think it can be trained. But at he same time, I do think that the trend is there, even if that isn’t to say that such things can’t be overcome, which you may have included, but I kind of skimmed.
Great take overall. Good read, great information and such.
I have. I scored 128 and i know people who have scored way lower and have a better social and academic record than me. Iq isn't a measure of everything but i felt like it was the most objective measure available
I took one as well. I want to say it was in the 130s but I honestly can’t remember for he life of me. It is the most objective one available though, I agree.
The "out of Africa" theory has been disproven. There have been older bodies found elsewhere in Eastern Europe.
Race is also more than just skin colour. To say that it's just skin colour is like comparing a black doberman to a golden retriever and claiming that the only difference between the two is the colour of their fur. There are also behavioural differences, and as discussed in this take intelligence differences. This is what happens when different people evolve in different parts of the world. It's the same with all other animal species - they might be the same species but because they evolve in different conditions they evolve with different traits to adapt to that environment.
Interesting. Just how old are these bodies supposed to be then?
Yeah, I don't know why this keeps being bumpbed. This analysis using the most unscientific of methodology to reach conclusions.
Sufficed to say;
yep. . . IQ and Genetics are linked.
But race and IQ are not.
Because race is non-existent. People who share the same skin color or better yet, the weird subjective ever changing grouping called "race" do not share genetic commonality. So there is no way to link race and IQ.
The funniest statement in the post;
"Despite this, it's accepted and understood that in most sports black people are physically superior especially those involving some form of running."
Because we all know that the genetics that enable great endurance runners are the same ones that enable great sprinters.
Haha!
Hilarious.
There are two forces at work against promoting racial awareness. The one that gets all the press is the cultural Marxist view with it's absurd equality of outcome no matter what ideology. The one that people often overlook is the classic liberal radical individualist ideology that refuses to look at groups or the influence of race or even culture.
One would expect differences in intelligence of the different races.
You have to take into account that we have only really been migrating any great distances from our homelands over the last few hundred years.
So there haven't been that many generations to evolve significantly.
It's pretty simple, if your ancestors lived for hundreds of years learning symbolised language and mathematics (Chinese people) then you have become an animal who can do that.
If your ancestors spent the last few hundred to 1000 years running away from lions and tigers and learning more singing and dancing rituals then they will be good at those things.
These are just a couple of very simple examples but they are undeniable and the evidence is all around us.
Look what happens when these African migrants go to Europe. They act very tribal and cause violence.
I'm not going to lie... I wanted to read this but had a heart attack when I saw all the writing and nothing to break it all up. So I wrote this comment and left.
Same
lmao
Look up alternative hypothesis’s videos on YouTube.
I know about this research and the present results and conclusions. What you added with own words looks justified to me. I think, we don't know everything yet, and a couple of details will additionally turn up one day. I see it all like ''stock taking''; bad, if some guys (and they will) make this a racism thing. IQ isn't everything after all. There are things like EQ and individual ''talents''. Mr. Smart and Mr. Extremely smart can live peacefully as neighbours and be friends, too.
I see that one piece of your tag was that in sport Blacks are physically superior on that I disagree, take distant runners, its because of altitude and therefore can breath easier, and now its been proven that sprint runners from Jamaica has a springy bone like in their foot, in boxing its their skin not colour that counts,
and as far as sex and the size of their penis is concerned, I believe a white man has the longest 13" +
He’s Mexican actually but he’s just the odd ball. The average penis size is like 7.2 in the Congo.
A) i never said shit about penis size
B) Black peopke do dominate most running competitions. just look at the 42km.100 m and 200m races
@Pink2000
I've tried to find the Congo study. I'd love to read it. It doesn't seem to exist on the internet or anywhere so I'm not sure how believable that is. I don't think there has been a noticeable difference with black western men though in real studies. As far as I've read, it's very inappropriate in the Congo to talk about penis size or sexual things in general. If you know where it is, I'd love to read it though. About 5.2 seems to be average. Only about (from memory) about ~17% of guys are bigger than 6" and it's like 2 point something % are bigger than 7" if you can believe that. That's according to the biggest meta study I've seen. Every girl has seem to have had sex with the same 10 inch guy though because guys like that are incredibly rare (like 1 in a million). None the less, every girl seems to have that story.
@cavmanier 5.2 is average for WHITE men
@Pink2000 and not that much bigger for another race,
@Pink2000
![Race and IQ, a Suppressed Discussion]()
Are you sure? Here the largest or one of the largest meta studies with over 20,000 men--all measured by healthcare professionals (not self measured like many third world country studies where people exaggerate). Though data is still limited, it does paint a picture of some tendency. White countries were about a half inch longer which isn't much bigger, but show me the Congo study you believe exists. I don't care who is bigger; I'm just pointing out the real science from the lies on the internet and cultural wives tales.
(Data from the linked meta study)
(Study)
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/.../bju.13010
Please, show me if I'm wrong.
You know why Asians dominate academics? I’ll let you in a secret. If we go home and have a failing mark, most likely we get corporal punishment eg. Being hit by a bamboo, kneeling on rice grain, etc. No dishonoring the cow.
Also our parents enroll us for extra math classes or whatever. We study after studying in school. It’s basically a studyception
Every race has its obvious physical differences. And these refer to the average traits in the population. Africans are black skinned. People from the Netherlands are tall. Asians are short. Africans either run super fast, or they're great long-distance runners. Indians are very hairy. Asians are hairless.
Why should differences stop only at the visual/physical traits.
There is no doubt that there will be IQ differences between races.
Black folks get angry at this but we call each other retarded and slow more than anyone. The amount of times I've heard black people call each other 'retarded ass nigga' isn't quantifiable. I personally don't see a problem with the IQ gap from a black perspective. It's like when you have depression but you've never been diagnosed so you blame yourself instead of the illness.
from the comments I'm just gonna assume this was a good take cause I know damn well I ain't reading all that.
Lmao
Case closed.
Very smart!
@Bananaman177 ikr...
just kidding lol i didn't read it either. i felt like i was reading a damn textbook... like a lot of people who replied. you're not alone. im just getting the info from the replies.
@scorchedwater 😂😂 thank goodness I'm not the only one.
I'm of mixed race and have a confirmed 139 (after a brain injury) and wouldn't mind mandatory IQ laws (yeah I know... not realistic)
Here who I've noticed typically have low IQs
bigots
sexists
hardcore right and left wingers
online trolls
Also, love to see people who claim to have a high IQ but have one 2 standard deviations lower be flogged.
One thing I have to say is IQs are bullshit.
They only measure ONE type of intelligence.
Nowadays, we have NINE types of intelligence and the test needs to update itself to that.
I have an 127 IQ, and it shows in my life, but I've been blasted away by people with have 'average' and even 'below average' IQ, and I ain't mad.
lol.
IQ's are the most rigorous measure of future life success, including income and criminality and stable marriages. There's just no way around it, no way to ignore or twist it.
@viginian I disagree, but, hey, if you want to base your whole life around a test score, then have a good one.
You attacked the statistical and practical validity of IQ. Which is stupid. I don't even know my IQ.
Here's what anthropologists comment on that subject
s3.amazonaws.com/.../..._Race_Intelligence1994.pdf
www.americananthro.org/.../Content.aspx
FYI: Mankind originated in Africa , at more than one place.
this basically says that we acknowledge the difference but urge you to ignore it for the sake of political correctness.
One more: www.theguardian.com/.../why-genetic-iq-differences-between-races-are-unlikely
@malegender since the forefathers of whites came from Africa the whole African vs white IQ propaganda makes no sense.
Yeah, since no other trait is the exact same on average, skin color, weight, hair color, bone density, height, predsiposition to diseases, testosterone level, etc. IQ must be exactly the same. that's logical.
Having a high IQ is great, you feel superior to others. I never done a test, but i'd say i wouldn't be genius quality IQ. I've know some very brainy people as in very good academically, probably high IQs. But some of them were as thick as two short planks.
High IQ does not relate to common sense, which i would rate a much higher quality, and is found among all races, even those with no access to formal education.