I appreciate the point you’re trying to make being concerned with male suicide, but we don’t operate the same way women do. We receive stress relief in different ways like sex
Say what you will but the numbers don't lie. Men need to take better care of themselves and stop repressing their emotions. Although you are proving my point.
"Honestly in my experience, when a man is doing anything considered feminine it's another man that makes him feel bad."
Woah! Woah! When did I say what you said was wrong. I just pointed out what needs to be done to help men, something people today conveniently leave out when trying to make posts about "helping men"
And you did it again! Trying to avoid what I am saying by replacing it with a blame on someone you have a problem with, that's a clever way of using men against men
@1truekhaleesi He is not changing subject, you are just not listening. Its no wounder that male suicide is higth if you blame all worlds problems on man. Stop bashing man for what they are and that rate will go down.
""Honestly in my experience, when a man is doing anything considered feminine it's another man that makes him feel bad.""
Wrong. There are men that do that but most of the time when I've done something considered feminine, its mainly been women that would shame me as well as other men I know that did something that would be considered to be feminine.
"The people who are anti-male are quite conservative and don't hesitate to say that men need to repress emotions and "be a man.""
This isn't really an either or situation. Both conservatives and modern progressives spout anti-male rhetoric but in different ways. And many of them believe the same things but for completely different reasons.
Agreed. Why are you surprised? I would not imprint my own views on others, unless I am asked to. And expect the same vice versa. It's my understanding of having (and giving) the 'Right of personal Freedom'. Your attempt is well-meaning, for sure. But same as women don't want to be dominated, lectured and 'told around' ... men wish for the same. MEN, that is. You actually told us here how YOUR man ought to be. That's fair. But to raise the impression that 'we' ALL should be like this is somewhat unrealistic.
I'm relaxed. /// What makes you think that we did not hear about this already? Your 'suggestions' being connected with '... NEED to...' is then an unlucky choice of words?
99% of those suggestions sound horrible. I agree that self care is important, but I don't think you understand men at all. Those things don't interest most men.
Hanging out with the guys, drinking, various physical activities. Everyone is different and enjoy different things. From my understanding the guys who commit suicide do so because they feel lonely. Doing things in isolation won't really help.
Why not just say go do something you enjoy regardless of what others think?
Drinking probably isn't the best idea if you aren't in the right place mentally to begin with. Also, 1. Go for a run or walk 14. Go for a hike 22. Call someone you love
I ment alchohol with friends. Walking and running is boring, ownly talking can get boring, especially over the phone. Lots of people don't really enjoy hikes because it is basically walking over a longer distance up hill with no real interesting end goal.
And these are just my suggestions. My point was that men need to put themselves first more often. Sorry you missed the point and the big ass paragraph I wrote in the beginning explaining my point.
Ya, and my point was that all those suggestions were things women are more likely to enjoy, so it came off as an authentic gesture. That would be line me saying women need to do more self care. They can drink bear in excess, watch the game, eat gunk food, yell and scream with the boys and get to fights/heated arguments. Most girls wouldn't enjoy that, so it takes away from my point.
I do find it funny that a women said "men need to put themselves first more often." In the media all you ever hear are feminists telling the world that men don't care about women and ownly care about themselves😂. I'm not saying you are one of them. It's just different
I find some of your list pretentious as shit. All you have to say is take care of your physical and mental health. Find a hobby, go to the doctor, etc. Many already have their own interests that they use to pamper themselves, if they don't they don't, if they want to they will seek it out.
Men also take on the harsher jobs. "Self care" is a little difficult when Johnny the trucker is over the road and only sees his wife and kids one week per month. I saw how that shit broke my Dad.
women need to fuck sad men more often it will increase their will to live and therefore self worth and then won't harass women as much because they won't be as desperate either that or we need euthanasia for losers because i can't think of a solution
I don't have to fuck anyone who I don't want to. Plenty of women go long periods without sex and they don't harass people. These men you speak of just need to be better people.
What are your thoughts on euthanising losers because I really can't take it anymore i just want to fuck something so i know im worthy to live on this planet... the earth doesn't have enough resources for both humans and animals so i feel its ethically wrong for losers to stay alive unless we dont mind that animals who dont deserve it are starving to death and competing over very small areas of hospitable land and i try to be environmentally focused but i can only do so much whereas china and india dont seem to give a fuck about anything but total annihilation but saying this gets you called racist!!! I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO HOW CAN I POSSIBLY CONTINUE LIKE THIS
Maybe instead of thinking a man's self-worth totally depends on whether he gets pussy or not, you should tackle the root of the problem. Sex isn't everything and nobody is responsible for your own happiness and well-being. The solution is a shift in the way you think, both about women and self-worth.
if it was reversible i would but i just can't risk wanting to be a man again like I've read about transgender people strongly regretting their decision and its permanent so nah thanks ill just wait for some lady to be desperate enough to sleep with me im not even that bad i work out and eat healthy i just get nervous because women are mean
I don't tend to make decisions considering what strangers on the internet say. You should try being yourself and see what YOU want. Not strangers on the internet. If you want to be a woman, go ahead. You can just be a nice woman.
i have 2 choices, live in sadness, or live in sadness with a mutilated penis. If I could get my biology changed to be a real woman, I would do it in a heartbeat. Unfortunately I'm stuck as a man regardless of how many penises are removed from my body.
What you're prescribing would be the equivalent of telling men to date and fuck fat women so they can be motivated to lose weight. It doesn't work that way. Get in shape and get your life together and be the sort of person that you yourself would want to be around.
I agree we are overworked and unhappy but men are too busy working extra to pick up the slack so women can take maternity leave, pick up the kids from school, and “find themselves #Oursweatandunhappinessletswomenstayoblivious 🤣🤣
A vasectomy should help with that. I don't support maternity leave for just women. If we have maternity leave, we need it for men too. Not sure who you're trying to impress.
I’m not trying to impress anyone I’m just merely stating it’s a fact that men on average work longer hours and have more demanding/risky jobs and women on average choose to work less and take less demanding jobs to pursue things that make them happy. We’re there to balance things out, even if it makes us unhappy, is all I’m saying.
I mean not to disagree with you but I think both need it the same - I would rather say for men it's a more urgent case because they're not going after it. You see beauty salons and spa's around every corner of the streets, that are themed for women and not very many themed neutral and less so for men. Erotic massage however is a thing fortunately :) :) It's just what we need.
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Is relaxing with a beer classed as a form of self care?
Absolutely. I do that all the time. Sometimes with tea.
Ok cool
I feel everyone need to involve into daily workout. Little exercise for healthy life is basic requirement of our body.
There's no point in 'reaching out' when most of the time, nobody listens.
I would rather go to the gym and do fasting or go on a hike.
You can do those too. I've been trying to go on a hike but I've been so busy.
For me those things are self care as well
Some of your suggestions were useful, but most of them seeing catered towards women. I'll do my own mytake on this and post it here.
Self Care For Men ↗
I appreciate the point you’re trying to make being concerned with male suicide, but we don’t operate the same way women do. We receive stress relief in different ways like sex
Notice how all the men upvote me and how the women downvote?
Remove this modern progressive anti-male nonsense from society and those suicide numbers will drop pretty quickly
Say what you will but the numbers don't lie. Men need to take better care of themselves and stop repressing their emotions. Although you are proving my point.
"Honestly in my experience, when a man is doing anything considered feminine it's another man that makes him feel bad."
Woah! Woah! When did I say what you said was wrong. I just pointed out what needs to be done to help men, something people today conveniently leave out when trying to make posts about "helping men"
The people who are anti-male are quite conservative and don't hesitate to say that men need to repress emotions and "be a man."
And you did it again! Trying to avoid what I am saying by replacing it with a blame on someone you have a problem with, that's a clever way of using men against men
You're changing the subject. Bye now.
@1truekhaleesi He is not changing subject, you are just not listening. Its no wounder that male suicide is higth if you blame all worlds problems on man. Stop bashing man for what they are and that rate will go down.
""Honestly in my experience, when a man is doing anything considered feminine it's another man that makes him feel bad.""
Wrong. There are men that do that but most of the time when I've done something considered feminine, its mainly been women that would shame me as well as other men I know that did something that would be considered to be feminine.
"The people who are anti-male are quite conservative and don't hesitate to say that men need to repress emotions and "be a man.""
This isn't really an either or situation. Both conservatives and modern progressives spout anti-male rhetoric but in different ways. And many of them believe the same things but for completely different reasons.
I've been getting a LOT better about it in the last few years. I'm having a massage tomorrow in fact.
I am so happy to now know what men should do with their life.
Let us men now tell you girls how to lead a life.
Typical don't tell me what to do response 😂
Agreed. Why are you surprised?
I would not imprint my own views on others, unless I am asked to. And expect the same vice versa.
It's my understanding of having (and giving) the 'Right of personal Freedom'.
Your attempt is well-meaning, for sure.
But same as women don't want to be dominated, lectured and 'told around' ... men wish for the same.
MEN, that is.
You actually told us here how YOUR man ought to be. That's fair. But to raise the impression that 'we' ALL should be like this is somewhat unrealistic.
They were just suggestions. Cool your jets.
I'm relaxed. /// What makes you think that we did not hear about this already? Your 'suggestions' being connected with '... NEED to...' is then an unlucky choice of words?
Is there anyone holding a gun to your head right now? If not, no one's forcing you.
That sounds better. Thank you.
Yes. Some men are unaware of suicidal signs in themselves.
I gotta admit my self-care is somewhat precarious.😅
99% of those suggestions sound horrible. I agree that self care is important, but I don't think you understand men at all. Those things don't interest most men.
So what are your suggestions?
Hanging out with the guys, drinking, various physical activities. Everyone is different and enjoy different things. From my understanding the guys who commit suicide do so because they feel lonely. Doing things in isolation won't really help.
Why not just say go do something you enjoy regardless of what others think?
Drinking probably isn't the best idea if you aren't in the right place mentally to begin with.
Also,
1. Go for a run or walk
14. Go for a hike
22. Call someone you love
Wow that's exactly what you suggested
I ment alchohol with friends. Walking and running is boring, ownly talking can get boring, especially over the phone. Lots of people don't really enjoy hikes because it is basically walking over a longer distance up hill with no real interesting end goal.
It doesn't have to be something you personally don't like.
And these are just my suggestions. My point was that men need to put themselves first more often. Sorry you missed the point and the big ass paragraph I wrote in the beginning explaining my point.
Ya, and my point was that all those suggestions were things women are more likely to enjoy, so it came off as an authentic gesture. That would be line me saying women need to do more self care. They can drink bear in excess, watch the game, eat gunk food, yell and scream with the boys and get to fights/heated arguments. Most girls wouldn't enjoy that, so it takes away from my point.
I do find it funny that a women said "men need to put themselves first more often." In the media all you ever hear are feminists telling the world that men don't care about women and ownly care about themselves😂. I'm not saying you are one of them. It's just different
I find some of your list pretentious as shit. All you have to say is take care of your physical and mental health. Find a hobby, go to the doctor, etc. Many already have their own interests that they use to pamper themselves, if they don't they don't, if they want to they will seek it out.
I wish I made enough money to be considered pretentious.
Workout, check your testosterone n get it fixed, manscape buy a dog dress nice
Meditate as well
I do self care but i still wish i was dead
It only helps so much. I hope you're getting help because you have a lot of people that care about you
Agreed.
That's another thirty things i need to ficking fo now... Thanks. Thanks a lot
Men also take on the harsher jobs. "Self care" is a little difficult when Johnny the trucker is over the road and only sees his wife and kids one week per month. I saw how that shit broke my Dad.
women need to fuck sad men more often it will increase their will to live and therefore self worth and then won't harass women as much because they won't be as desperate either that or we need euthanasia for losers because i can't think of a solution
I don't have to fuck anyone who I don't want to. Plenty of women go long periods without sex and they don't harass people. These men you speak of just need to be better people.
sex isn't important to women because women's chances of reproduction are very high
That's too bad. I don't want kids.
What are your thoughts on euthanising losers because I really can't take it anymore i just want to fuck something so i know im worthy to live on this planet... the earth doesn't have enough resources for both humans and animals so i feel its ethically wrong for losers to stay alive unless we dont mind that animals who dont deserve it are starving to death and competing over very small areas of hospitable land and i try to be environmentally focused but i can only do so much whereas china and india dont seem to give a fuck about anything but total annihilation but saying this gets you called racist!!! I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO HOW CAN I POSSIBLY CONTINUE LIKE THIS
I think you should check yourself into a psych facility. Euthanizing people is inhumane.
yeah if they want to live
Maybe instead of thinking a man's self-worth totally depends on whether he gets pussy or not, you should tackle the root of the problem. Sex isn't everything and nobody is responsible for your own happiness and well-being. The solution is a shift in the way you think, both about women and self-worth.
@lumos That guy is weird and he's got issues. I thought I blocked all of his many profiles.
@lumos proof that women have inherent worth and men have to work hard to become something i want to be a woman
Go get the surgery. No one is stopping you.
if it was reversible i would but i just can't risk wanting to be a man again like I've read about transgender people strongly regretting their decision and its permanent so nah thanks ill just wait for some lady to be desperate enough to sleep with me im not even that bad i work out and eat healthy i just get nervous because women are mean
I don't tend to make decisions considering what strangers on the internet say. You should try being yourself and see what YOU want. Not strangers on the internet. If you want to be a woman, go ahead. You can just be a nice woman.
thanks stranger on the internet ill make a decision based on what you have to say
No one is forcing you to do anything. Go ahead and live your life in sadness wondering "what if?"
i have 2 choices, live in sadness, or live in sadness with a mutilated penis. If I could get my biology changed to be a real woman, I would do it in a heartbeat. Unfortunately I'm stuck as a man regardless of how many penises are removed from my body.
If you want to think that about yourself and how the surgery is going to go, go right ahead.
thank you its a lot easier to be happy with what im given than hoping for something that can never be
Keep telling yourself that.
What you're prescribing would be the equivalent of telling men to date and fuck fat women so they can be motivated to lose weight. It doesn't work that way. Get in shape and get your life together and be the sort of person that you yourself would want to be around.
I agree we are overworked and unhappy but men are too busy working extra to pick up the slack so women can take maternity leave, pick up the kids from school, and “find themselves #Oursweatandunhappinessletswomenstayoblivious 🤣🤣
A vasectomy should help with that. I don't support maternity leave for just women. If we have maternity leave, we need it for men too. Not sure who you're trying to impress.
I’m not trying to impress anyone I’m just merely stating it’s a fact that men on average work longer hours and have more demanding/risky jobs and women on average choose to work less and take less demanding jobs to pursue things that make them happy. We’re there to balance things out, even if it makes us unhappy, is all I’m saying.
No one is forcing to do anything. Plenty of women have stressful jobs. I'm a tech in a neuro intensive care.
Are the heads of ur department mostly women as well?
It's 50/50.
Yes I admit, men need it more than women.
I wholeheartedly agree
I mean not to disagree with you but I think both need it the same - I would rather say for men it's a more urgent case because they're not going after it. You see beauty salons and spa's around every corner of the streets, that are themed for women and not very many themed neutral and less so for men. Erotic massage however is a thing fortunately :) :) It's just what we need.