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Yes you can choose whether to get the vaccine or not, but you have consequences for your choices. I can choose to rob a bank or drive well above the speed limit but as a consequence I would either go to prison or get my license taken away. If you choose not to get the vaccine your consequences are not being allowed in public places and quarantine or risk getting COVID and dying from it. Vaccines are not about choices though but protecting yourself and others from a potentially deadly disease. Does it go against human rights to have speed limits and rules on the road or health regulations at restaurants? No because those are to protect people. Anti vaxxers can chose not to get the vaccine but they will have consequences for it as with any choice. And yes I will accept any consequences for getting the vaccine. #Yourchoiceyourconsequences
Clearly you have never taken a medical ethics course not understand the principle of informed consent. Nobody is being harmed by what I choose to not put in my own body. Robbery, assault and reckless driving are crimes that involve an ACTION...
By your logic you are equating me not paying a tax to me stealing someone’s wallet. One is an omission and a personal choice. The other is an action that violates another person.
Nobody takes away your license and your job if you don’t wear a seat belt. A persons livelihood and right to earn a wage is a basic human right, not a privilege. There are consequence of living in a free society where people have civil rights to make their own mistakes. The rewards of personal freedom far exceed the risks
The consequences of people not eating well, doing drugs, or refusing a vaccine are they put themselves at risk for health problems.
You could argue you don’t want to pay healthcare for the obese, drug addicts and anti vaxxers and that is fair policy question. But if you are vaccinated then why do you care what anyone else does with their own body?
@Maladroita But not taking the vaccine affects you most of all and it is an action of one's own personal choice, so is abortion. And I studied biology in college just so you know where I get my information from. Earning a living is a human right but whatever the profession is has their own rules and regulations that those who work for them must abide by. Just like anyone who enters my house must abide by my rules. I support everyone's right to choose which includes whether to get the vaccine or not, but I hate that they are complaining about the consequences when they made that choice!
So because I don't want to risk my life with an untested shot cause I almost died last so called "pandemic" I have to accept being shut out of social life? No fuck that
@friendzoned4life You chose not to get the vaccine knowing what the rules and regulations for public health are those are your consequences. Deal with it! Besides you can have a social life online as an alternative. Every facility and place has their own rules which workers and customers must abide by that have nothing to do with the constitution.
Anon puta!
People like u are the reason WW2 happened die
@friendzoned4life You really want me to die just cuz I don't agree with you. Sheesh talk about bigotry. If you want to get your have your own little get together with your unvaccinated friends in an area with no rules or regulations, then go ahead.
No I want you dead because you hang on an ideology that takes my choice for my body a way and I don't like Nazi's
@friendzoned4life Yes it is your choice to get the vaccine or not (which I supoprt everyone's free choice in that) but it's not your choice what a place's rules and regulations are. If you want to have a nice get together with all your unvaccinated folks at your house with your own rules then go right on ahead. If you think I'm a Nazi for just one belief then you're fucking retarded. I respect everyone's views and opinions and choices (you and most people clearly have not respect) but rules, regulations, and guidelines are up to the owners and the law.
Wich fucking nazi country are you from in this country the People say what happens
And People that are for things are against human rights are nazi's
@friendzoned4life Did you even read what I replied? Clearly you didn't! You can CHOOSE TO GET THE VACCINE OR NOT BUT YOU CAN'T CHOOSE WHAT RULES, GUIDELINES, AND REGULATIONS ARE WHICH WERE CHOSEN BY PEOPLE! (Ex. no shoes, no shirt, no service) It may not be fair but guess what, LIFE'S NOT FAIR SO GET OVER IT, SUCK IT UP!
Its my fucking body if I have to put toxics in my body before Am I allowed to do shit I am being forced I have no choice wich makes People like you nazi's hang yourself now
@friendzoned4life You sound like a fucking toddler blaming everyone and having a nice tantrum for not getting your way and are very prejudiced for wishing death upon someone who doesn't agree with ONE VIEW. AND YES GO AHEAD AND REFUSE THE FUCKING VACCINE AND HAVE A NICE GET TOGETHER AND DO WHATEVER THE HELL YOU WANT CUZ IF YOU WANT SO BAD!
Yes I wish dead up on People that wish me an impossible life because of a fucking harmless flu
@friendzoned4life did you read a single word. DON'T GET THE VACCINE AND DO WHAT EVER THE FUCK YOU WANT if that's what you want! GEE I disagree on one Topic and you start playing god telling me whether I should live or die! Well guess what I'm entitled to my own opinion you, immature piece of shit!
You should die because this is id nazi behavior want you are showing and there is no place for nazi's anymore
@friendzoned4life There should be no place for bigoted children like you anymore but you're still allowed to do say and do whatever the fuck you want according to the first amendment. DON'T GET THE VACCINE AND GO DO WHATEVER THE HELL YOU WANT!
You are the one getting mad on People that wanna have a life and don't want shit in their body so shut the fuck up and hang yourself or something
@friendzoned4life AGAIN DON'T GET THE SHOT AND DO WHATEVER THE HELL YOU WANT! It sound like you're the most triggered person on hear who loves to wish death because someone chose to get the vaccine and is getting mad at someone who tells others to just think about their choice.
You are saying People should respect not being allowed to have a life anymore that is nothing different from wishing People that and there is no vaccin it's all Just toxins
@friendzoned4life I'm entitled to my own opinion you fucktard. Yes you are entitled to your own opinion and choices too but you have no place telling others die because they want to take the vaccine and chose differently than you!
@friendzoned4life AGAIN YOU HAVE A FUCKING CHOICE! You think you're fucking life is all over for refusing the vaccine? Go ahead and don't take the vaccine and do whatever! I ain't stopping you!
I studied medicine, biology and mathematics. Biology has nothing to do with this issue as biology requires many observations over a LONG time, and even then dissent is required for robust scientific inquiry. Logically it is an issue of public POLICY. Not biology.
You seem to lack awareness that most businesses are not choosing these rules. Big corporations may be choosing to support the predominant media narrative because they can afford to comply, actually they control the media, with pharmaceutical industry being #1 sponsor for your news. The wealthiest corporations like Amazon are incentivized to lobby for these public health policies because they help destroy their competition and consolidate wealth in the hands of a few.
The rules are being arbitrarily forced on small businesses and individuals in an undemocratic way and without scientific merit to support the benefit vs cost from a public health standpoint. There are negative effects on health as a result of such restrictive policies. Public health is complex, not a monomaniacal fixation on germs.
@Maladroita Well I learned about disease during my studies as well as how and why vaccines are made. Yes, I know businesses are not choosing the rules but what choice do they have when they must follow public health and safety. There's many other restrictions that businesses must follow that we don't even think about. Small businesses have to follow on what it is believed to be the best for public health, even though it may not be the best. Rules can change though.
Your just mad you got tricked into believing that the flu is now some deadly super bug and your not willing to admit it. Its fine guy, we all get fooled sometimes. They spend a lot of money on flashy commercial full of sweet, sweet lies. Hell I fell for it for a couple months! We all just gotta move on with our lives now.
@ToastyOats No I'm not mad. I got the vaccine and am able to return to back to my everyday life. Doing better after getting the vaccine.
Yep, I made the personal choice to not get vaccinated, Mostly because I get EXTREMELY violent at the mere sight of a needle, Years ago I actually tried to shove a needle in a doctor's neck, ended up getting held down and restrained by multiple security guards. Needless to say I will never put myself in that position again
When an evil person like Bill Gates admits that this COVID serum is meant to help with population reduction, you'd better listen... and not fall into the trap of believing what all these "pro-vaccine" radio commercials are trying to convince you to do.
Source please
@mistixs Concerning Bill Gates? www.TruNews.com
Awesome take, but I bet you have a lot of people rocking in the fetal position over it. LOL
Thank you, honey. I love you so much for writing this.
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Thank God there’s a smart person here! “Give me liberty or give me death” is what it’s about, and honestly I doubt many people even remember who said that. Besides, scientists are saying it controls your immune new system to override and make covid19 immunity, but what about every other virus that your immune system can’t handle anymore, like the Delta variant?
The delta variant is covid-19 🤦
@mistixs it’s a variant of the 19 lol at least that’s what my teacher said
A variant of covid-19 is still covid-19
@mistixs so then it is a variant. . . what was your point? In case you don’t realize it, a virus’s variant is by definition different and therefore may pose a threat despite vaccines for the original parent virus
Research shows that the covid vaccines still protect against the delta variant. Slightly less than against other forms of the virus, but a vaccinated person is still more protected against the delta variant than an unvaccinated person.
@mistixs who tf ever heard of a untested non FIA approved vaccine protecting against something that didn’t exist until after the vaccine was made 🤥
It protects against the delta variant because the delta variant is still almost the same genetically as other forms of covid-19.
@mistixs Im waiting for the omega variant
@Chthou95 “almost the same genetically” doesn’t mean shit. Like fr, just because a dog has similar genes to humans which cause four limbs and two eyes etc, or an orangutan has similar genetics to humans doesn’t mean that vaccines for one will work for the other. Also, when covid mutates (loses genes) it may now have a completely different “cap” shape that only effects other areas of the body (you know what I’m talking about if you’ve studied covid, but a “cap” is how the virus attaches).
Sure, but studies have shown that the current vaccines are still effective against the delta variant.
It was a joke man
At the end of the day, if you want to die from COVID-19 then that is on you. I'll be receiving two doses of the Pfizer vaccine, which is most effective against COVID-19.
My mother works with a woman whose niece is learning to walk again after contracting COVID-19.
Also, nobody knows what's in vaccines in general. There is no use in worrying about what's in the COVID-19 vaccine when meanwhile you've had other vaccines as children. And did anything happen to you? No, didn't think so.
If you feel you will die from covid then you should trust your gut instinct because it’s your body and you could be predisposed to a severe inflammatory reaction to SARS-2.
The immune system is idiosyncratic and viral contagion isn’t a simple A= certain death equation. Most people (96%) are not even hospitalized for covid and the death rate is about 0.2% with 96% of covI’d deaths having serious comorbidities that could have killed them without covid. It’s science. Not rhetoric.
Actually if all they tell about covid 19 is true I would have an 80% chance of dying from the shot. But I have 0,0000000000000000001% to die of covid and 0,000000000000000000000000000000001% to even get it
Can people stop lumping vaccine hesitant people (who you seem to be describing) with antivaxx people who actively shame others for getting vaccinated?
Nevermind, you're 16. If you've never come across actual antivaxxers then that's a good thing.
I hope you're serious and if you are I congratulate you! 😊
Not everyone who is against those vaccines deserves to be hated. Some of them have good reasons to reject these vaccines.
Both my wife and I have been vaccinated. If I had small children I would not get them vaccinated until I knew more about it.
Yeah if I had kids, I'd get their doctor's approval before jabbing them with anything.
It sickens me how the term anti-vaxxer has been turned into someone who is against covid vaccine mandates. It's such an obvious method used to poison the well. Anti-vaxxer used to mean being scared to get a vaccine because it will give you autism or something just as stupid.
Thanks. Look at all the sheep. I’m so tired of all this virtue signaling and acting like if you don’t accept the narrative we’re pushing on you, that means you lack education and intelligence. It’s complete bullshit.
Yes it makes me suspicious because if it were an interpersonal relationship and someone talked to you like this it’s a red flag they are trying to con you
Unless you work in the medical field, you can do what you want, just keep up with the masks & social distancing so you're not a petri dish for breeding new strains that can kill other people.
I dont care if you get the vaccine. But other people shouldn't be told they have to get it if they don't want it
Fully Vaxxed here. y'all are crazy if you don't get it. Don't listen to the fake news, protect yourself and your family by getting vaxxed.
They told my parents that in 2009 with the mexican flu too the vaccine almost costed me my life and it did cost some other Kids lifes.
So you are the crazy one
i refuse to get the shot mostly beacuse i feel the vaccine was put out so quickly. and concidering how long it normally takes to do proper research and get approved by the FDA.. i'll take my chances
Thank you. I’m not interested in getting vaccinated when I know that there’s no real data and how they collect data is through observing outcomes of the current vaccine. So, no thanks.
My advice to any ANTI-VAXXER is to go ahead with your decision not to be vaccinated, if you die, there will be more oxygen for the rest of us who follow health and science, not politics.📛
And those who reject the jab say the same thing about those who do.
@Lliam anyone who can’t see the motives for this covid hysteria see political is an idiot. For me it’s not political it’s just common sense that economic and public policies have consequences. Politicians and media don’t get to create a whole new “normal” and force me to obey
@Maladroita. You're right. Did anyone ever do a cost benefit analysis, or consider psychological impacts or years of life lost? No. It's because they didn't care. They had an agenda and it's been working perfectly. Their motives never had one thing to do with protecting the public from illness.
I personally chose to get the vaccine, but I agree with this Take.
I got the biontech vaccine and even though I don't know German, I started speaking German, even giving the Nazi salute.
Go back to Israel!
@ToastyOats how?