My rant about anti anti vaxxers

[imsocool1806]

Please note whatever I say should not be taken offensively or used as genuine facts - im a 15 year old gal what do I know after all?

Scene: History class - baso every frickin day

My history teacher loves to relate what she teaches us to modern life and with COVID it's an overused reference as we are studying the history of health in Britain. Today she was talking about the small pox vaccine and good old ed jenner - who fyi created the first ever vaccine. She made a comment saying how she does not understand why people don't want to take it and that they are selfish not to due to herd immunity blah blah blah

That's so rude! Is she a medic? Doesn't she know I am entitled to my own opinion? Personally I think what she stated and has stated many times before is absurd as she hasn't anything to back up her point. People are ant-vaccine for reasons whether it be health problems or just fear ig.

First of all - people who do not get the COVID vaccine are not ARE NOT all anti vaccine - I've had my HPV/MMR/Meningitis and all that jing bang but I refuse this one in particular due to the lack of research and knowledge of future effects. No one can say what it will do to you 50 years down the line. Some may argue EXACTLY WE DON'T KNOW - but I say EXACTLY - good for you if there is no effect but the fact that no one knows is enough reason for taking it and not taking it.

Secondly, no one can say it is effective (at least i dont think they can) - people who've taken it have had COVID, was it milder? yes maybe but also no. Does it reduce transmission? Idfk I'm not an expert, you tell me? no one truly knows anything.

Therefore my friends, I have a right to do whatever tf I want in this case - it's my body - if we reach herd immunity with these vaccines - great - but you can do it without me :)

So Miss you can just cry about it

me whilst y'all are reading this

[Anonymous]

Most of this has been a psyop.

First things first, you were probably taught about vaccines earlier on, or you should have been. It’s basic shit, my 5 year old understands it.

You’re injected with a small dose of a virus or disease, your body fights it off, and then you stand a better chance of fighting it off the next time you come into contact with whatever it is you were vaccinated against because your immune system remembers how to create the right antibodies to fight it off quickly.

First thing they said which set off alarm bells was that they don’t know whether you’re immune after catching it, and they said that you still need to be vaccinated afterwards.

What is a vaccine? Small dose of the virus, you fight it off, you’re immune. If you just had the virus and you fought it off your body reacts in exactly the same way. Like I said basic knowledge.

The only difference between catching something and being vaccinated for something is that the initial exposure to the disease/virus should be milder than actually catching it, and therefore safer. Yet this is an illness with which most people have symptoms of the common cold, especially 15 year olds. In fact something like 80% are asymptomatic, which is the reasoning behind all of us wearing masks despite showing no symptoms.

So basically if you had it already and you were fine you’re as protected as anybody who had the vaccine.

Second thing is when they started saying that the vaccinated couldn’t possibly spread the virus. Yet we were told to wear masks because of asymptomic people spreading it.

What does it mean if you’re asymptomic? Well you have the virus, but your body is fighting it off very well. In all likelihood you had it before with mild cold symptoms and assumed that it was just a cold, and as a result you have the antibodies.

Alright, so you get the vaccine, and now you have a stronger ability to fight it off if you’re exposed to it again. How do you fight it off? Well in order to fight it off your body has to be infected with it, it has to be inside your body.

Now, the next time you’re exposed to it you’re basically an asymptomatic carrier of it. We’ve been told that asymptomatic people spread it, and that happens. They admitted it after saying before that the vaccinated definitely would not. Again, basic knowledge.

Since vaccinated people can still catch the virus, and still spread it, this means that the idea of heard immunity is complete nonsense. The idea behind that is that if we can stop the spread we can prevent new variants from mutating, but vaccines don’t stop the spread. The only reason to get a vaccine is to protect yourself if you think it will, whether or not others get it shouldn’t concern you at all.

Thirdly they speak about new killer variant all the time to convince people to take endless boosters, they act as if each new variant will be worse than the last. Yet, viruses tend to be most deadly when new, and then when they mutate they tend to become more infectious but less deadly. This is because it’s easier for a virus to spread if it kills less of it’s hosts. The Omicron variant is much more infectious than the original variant, and much less deadly.

[imsocool1806]

one thing these vaccines aren't like what you stated these tamper with your DNA - the Pfizer is injecting the mRNA of the spike protein of corona into you and the AstraZeneca is one step behind and is the instructions to make the spike protein hence they don't offer that to kids - it has risks of stuff like blood clotting etc. My parents being doctors told me me and my siblings shouldn't get it because you don't know how it could affect you in 50 years - mutations are as easy as anything - i don't wanna risk my gene codes getting messed up for something that may or may not even serve its purpose. But yeah agreed it's your choice completely - you choose what you put in your body - but I've made my choice.

[Opinion Owner]

They’re not like normal vaccines, but my arguments here are the arguments I’d make against the people who are all for mandatory vaccinations who make ridiculous arguments about “following the science” despite the fact that they don’t understand basic science.

All of this I believe will be over very soon anyway. The CDC have admitted that natural immunity is actually more effective than the vaccine. The WHO admitted that many people who died actually died “with” the virus not “of” the virus. The Israelis who are on their 4th doses are basically saying that Omicron is infecting the vaccinated also and that the vaccines are making zero difference. But also Omicron is much milder as I mentioned, it’s not worth vaccinating against. The entire narrative is crumbling.

[justaboredhuman]

Well said. I agree. I don't think anyone in a free country should be forced to do anything they don't want to do. It's has been my body my choice with so many other things in life why is this any different?
I did get the vaccine and I also got covid after getting the vaccine. My symptoms were mild. Bit I am in fairly good shape, was that because of the vaccine or because I took decent care of myself? I don't know. But I do know is that even with the vaccine you can still get covid and you can still give it to someone else. It is not truly a vaccine in the general sense. It is merely a way to suppress the symptoms. The so called experts have flip flopped on everything they have said from the beginning.
So like everything else we get exposed to it comes down to choice. Get it don't get it. I am not going to judge you either way. But being told we have to do it is just authoritarian and shows poor leadership.
I am also no scholar on the matter just someone with an opinion. You don't have to like mine either but don't come after me because I don't agree with you.

[imsocool1806]

100% facts right there - there was this guy in my lessons all day teasing me because i didn't get the vaccine in school today i kept getting called an anti vaxxers - he was obviously joking but amidst it telling me how i should get it because there are so many people in hospital with it and dying etc - i get that fully like my condolences but by taking the vaccine will this change - no one can say can they - how many millions have been vaccinated and yet still there are so many dying and in hospital

[DesiUwU]

The ones dying in hospitals are the ones without vaccines…

[Chthou95]

@DesiUwU Inflated numbers

[DesiUwU]

@Chthou95 wdym by that?

[Chthou95]

@DesiUwU meaning that numbers could be inflated meaning over exaggerated to make things looks worse than they actually are

[DesiUwU]

I give up.
If y’all die, y’all die. Good luck

[fjb2021]

@DesiUwU HA!

[fjb2021]

@DesiUwU Oh? I'm affecting you and your family, stay the fuck in your basement, aka "Sameul L. Jackson", fuck your self

[DesiUwU]

@fjb2021 r u being racist now?

[DesiUwU]

Dude I get you’re lonely but if your neck is long enough you can suck your own dick somehow. There might be a problem with the dick tho, since it’s hard to suck smth that doesn’t exist
Anyways y’all are pointless to argue with because you’re either ageist or racist. I could do the same thing to your fuckface but we’re arguing about vaccines you dumbass

[DesiUwU]

Also nobody inflates the numbers, the numbers you get are the numbers of people who are getting COVID everyday or are dying of COVID everyday. They wouldn’t lie about it, where did you get that bullshit?

[fjb2021]

@DesiUwU No, it's his quote. Abide by it. And then go f yourself.

[DesiUwU]

@fjb2021 you’ve told me to fuck myself twice now, that all you got? Y not give me some sound advice on how to do it since you must know how to. Men like you are lonely and jack off twice a day or more, so teach me how to fuck myself so I can be a dick like you

[dumbassmcgee]

@DesiUwU It's endemic time, it was before it started, when do you nuts get over it?

[DesiUwU]

@dumbassmcgee there are still people dying and hospitals are full, plus new variants are gonna come out if we don’t get places with bad COVID in small communities under control.

[dumbassmcgee]

@DesiUwU What the hell is wrong with you? I agree with @
fjb2021. Do what hollywood tells you to. And shut up.

[DesiUwU]

@dumbassmcgee I wasn’t gonna get aggressive but it appears your opinion and you match your name perfectly well

[DesiUwU]

Please don’t get into it with me, I’m not interested in this rn. I have bigger things to worry about today.

[dumbassmcgee]

@DesiUwU Inflated numbers, what's that survival rate again? CDC said what? Can't differentiate between flu and covid? Just puts the mask on and gets vaxxed and trippled boosted. Then like fjb said, get fucked.

[DesiUwU]

@dumbassmcgee you think they’re inflated numbers with your inflated head 🎶

[dumbassmcgee]

@DesiUwU What do you propose? Lockdowns? Masks? Coof mandates? Want to get Samuel on the horn again?

[dumbassmcgee]

Bigger things on your head? Like what? Not staying in your basement? Living? By golly gee.

[DesiUwU]

@dumbassmcgee you really wanna know?

[dumbassmcgee]

@DesiUwU Yes. I really want to know.

[DesiUwU]

@dumbassmcgee sending u a message then ig. This dont mean we’re buddy-buddy

[DesiUwU]

Nvm I can’t

[DesiUwU]

I’m not saying anything publicly

[dumbassmcgee]

@DesiUwU Whatevs.

[Anonymous]

You do know that the act of vaccinating someone via mRNA injection has been in development for longer than you've been alive right? That it simply hasn't been used in all but a handful of situations because the side effects were well known, so well known and so well documented that they were broadly considered unsafe per very specific, very well understood facts that hinged on again, simple facts. Facts that were deemed neigh insurmountable, the "side effects" deemed so common, so serious, often deadly, as to deem the pursuit of additional funding and research unjustifiable given it's potential applicable use (read that as the reverse of everything you're "comfortable" with, Polio/MMR/Tetanus/Diphtheria/Pertussis/fucking smallpox till we basically eradicated it from the face of the planet - you're welcome/HEP-A&B/Cholera... I'll stop there in case you think at some point 100 years ago someone didn't what you think only to die to Polio)

That's my rebuttal rant.

What is known as COVID-19, coronavirus and less often, novel coronavirus, is lastly called "Novel" because it in no way shape or form interacts with the human body as compared to everything else that any member of the global population has ever encountered before, realistically, potentially or hypothetically. This means your immune system has no clue whatsoever, in the slightest way fathomable, a means of fighting it prior to exposure. Once exposed the patient must rely on their health and hope that their immune system can figure it out the hard way before they die or suffer long term damage to effected parts of their body (TB survivors who only just survived)

If you catch Influenza-A this year (this is why flu shots get a bad rap) you have exposure to Inf-A, you are not immune like lead is to visual light, your body simply knows what to do now. It will forget about certain things over time or at least devalue defending against them and this varies from person to person. If next year you're exposed to Influenza-B and even if your body is fully prepared, still, for Inf-A, you still get sick because the "lock and key" system used to fight pathogens you learned from A do not FULLY apply to B, however you have a starting point and certain secondary issues may be more easily mitigated.

Viruses mutate and become effectually different while still maintaining ties to their lineage, or they don't and are overtly new. Lions and Tigers, Whales and Dolphin, only Viruses are faster about it but not always without one flaw. Polio/Smallpox we effectively solved and they never made changes past us doing so, also means of transmission plays a factor here.

Most vaccines are not live pathogens, they are grown in labs then killed and because they are dead and pose little threat boosters are often needed for one to gain a
sufficient anti-body count to prevent the onset of side-effects if exposed, if exposed to say 1 million particles of said virus and only 1000 are likely to make their way anywhere in your body to where they could cause harm but you have 100k antibodies per unit of blood... they won't get far before they die. You were still infected and hypothetically could also pass on some of the other 999000 jerks to someone else... who'd just kill them too and the chance of additional exposure based on transmission method simply causes that problem to stop before there's a problem.

[Opinion Owner]

Back to the problem of "new and untested," When you got HPV/HEP/MMR you were told there would likely be slight to mild redness and soreness at the injection sight for a brief time. This is common. It is common because of the delivery method, which is into muscle, causing inflammation. No different than if you had to hand mix cement all day having never worked a day in your life, only it is localized to a pin point and causes a reaction at the cellular level (anti-body making) and this is basically harmless because it's just a foreign body your system is reacting to. Not without risk, but far less than that of not by a factor of thousands if not millions given the booster schedule but nothing simply works for every single person in an identical fashion and your body still has to do the leg work itself. It must decipher the "lock and key" system needed to combat said virus.

[Opinion Owner]

mRNA vaccines are the literal blueprint required, the one your body would keep in reserve for making more antibodies, only you don't have it yet. The problem is they do not just sit idle and wait as a dead virus vaccine would for anti-bodies to come find them. No, they work in tandem with your body to enter the portion of the cell that deals with manufacture which is post-DNA, RNA comes from DNA and mRNA comes next. The process is IRREVERSABLE, no one is messing with your DNA here. Your body then takes the new orders and goes to town... in a local pin point area... having brand new blueprints shoved on it causing an inflammation cascade that commonly results in wide spread problems...

[Opinion Owner]

because everyone freaks out all at once when they see something new (literally that's not a jab) and then that cell does what it's told only to have the cell beside it see what it's doing and so on and so forth. despite limited numbers of actual instruction pages and a lack of immediate need. (I am dumbing this way down so bare with me) This problem was solved, such that the side effect profile is in line with previous methods of vaccination, by means of what are called nano-lipid shells. basically in certain formulations of the vaccine, the vaccine itself is in a shell that your body will ignore, until said shell gets to a single target at which point the target cell will degrade the shell and be exposed to the vaccine payload, and only that cell, who will calmly nod it's head and do what is asked, none the wiser because no one else saw what was flying by. Since your body had nothing to go on by the way, assuming you survive, your immune system could have basically snuck past learning in spite of managing and medicine/luck would leave you little more immune than before, as with influenza, yes you won but next time may merely be milder. Unlike say chickenpox which is commonly a one shot deal until it mutates inside your body since it embeds itself outside the range of your immune system and emerges as shingles. If you never get chickenpox, you cannot get shingles as it is non-transmittable as shingles, only as chickenpox.

[Opinion Owner]

It took COVID-19, something the likes we have never seen, a transmission rate, ability to survive outside a human host and risk to health such as it is, for us to pump the time and effort into the only potential solution that doesn't take the better part of a year. Growing pathogens in a lab is time consuming, grossly expensive by comparison and the framework for mRNA was there, it just lacked safe delivery. Doing it the hard way successfully was just as likely but someone figured the lipid shell out first and here we are. A normal flu shot for Influenza gave people their grounds for doubt simply because you can't get one or even two flu shots in one season such that they would give coverage for all. So flu shots are targeted at specific variants likely to be prominent in the coming months, they guess but it's better than nothing. Both the original and Delta are already fully sequenced but we were not prepared. No one cares about your right to choose, do whatever you want and face the consequences. If no hospital can care for you because of 100 other uninformed opinionated obstinate decision makers, don't say we didn't warn you or expect us not to look back in judgement 50 years from now like we did with all the other vaccines.

Lastly, you are right. You are 15, what do you know. Did you know that it is not a 100% mathematical, universal truth, that if you drop something it will fall? The theory of relativity is just that. A theory, unproven to be true beyond any doubt and yet not wholly disproven. Yet gravity is still there, we can't go back in time and light still amazes us. If you're high risk for a certain reason, nothing changes that, virus, vaccine or otherwise.

[MCheetah]

You seem to be even more growing proof that Zoomers are a far smarter and superior generation than Millennials could ever be. Imagine a 15 year old girl being wiser than her idiot teachers. Well done for this MyTake!

I should add in another reason why to not take it: Medical professionals from around the world have been speaking out against this vaccine and it's shady AF. Of course, they're being censored and deplatformed left and right. The S1 spike protein in the vaccine is said to be poison that'll permanently f*ck up your immune system for life, leaving you dependent on pharmaceuticals until you die. Or else, you will die early.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/gsDlHprql-ghttps://www.youtube.com/embed/E6nh6dKlhhw

And another reason why to not take it: Politicians and their corporate overlords are pushing for the vaccine for purely financial reasons. Or do the "vax or die" people lack the intelligence to realize that politicians can invest in the stock market, too? That's why Biden and almost every Democrat was pushing for these mandates, even breaking the law to do so: Purely for the $$$. Corporations win, politician investors win, everyone else lose, including the idiot far-left sheep who make themselves pawns for the elitists.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/iaEfxnxd-bE

Yeah, but good luck trying to convince retards that politicians and billion dollar pharmaceutical giants have their back, but everyday healthcare professionals and doctors are just "Trump supporting flat-earther conspiracy theorists."

Anyway, great MyTake. Do not lose your intelligence as you get older. It's becoming an even rarer commodity than it was before.

[Slartybartfast]

I work in a hospital, I'm often in the morgue. I also live across from a cemitary.

We lost more people in a one year period than in four years of WWII. The morgue, despite building an entirely new facility in ADDITION to the old one. Is full right now.

I don't believe in mandatory vaccination, however I do believe it's a stupid thing to not be vaccinated. It's your choice to be stupid, but I shouldn't have to pay your medical bills when you make that choice and it goes horribly wrong.
At this point these are among the most tested and distributed vaccines in history.
As a nurse said to me yesterday, "we only lose the unvaccinated now.. ".

She wasn't being "political" she was just tired of watching people die.

[imsocool1806]

as i said im just a 15 year old saying what im saying - yes it's tiring to see people dying - my dad has cancer he's high risk yet he told me not to take it - yes he is a doctor himself - he's read into the vaccines and same with my mum - im obeying my parents - you don't have to pay my medical bills i have the NHS (i live in the UK) - im not tryna convince anyone anything but using terms like stupid and selfish for someone who doesn't want to inject a substance into their body - now that's stupid

[Levin]

@TDDMS "And considering the vast majority of the deceased never cared about their health - never took care of themselves, it then begs the question: Why the fuck should any of us worry about their health?"

This is a very good way to frame it. People aren't dying because they are unvaccinated. They are dying for the most part, because they are obese, co-morbid and chronically ill. Many of these people indeed never looked after their own health.

[Slartybartfast]

@Levin I have bits of dead people on my hands and smell like the gross anatomy lab right now.

We lost 860,000+ more people in 2020 than in 2019.

[Slartybartfast]

Any as I look around I don't see a lot of obese bodies, just normal looking corpses. Sadly a few young ones. Those are the worst.

[MCheetah]

"I don't believe in mandatory vaccination, however I do believe it's a stupid thing to not be vaccinated."

So you work in a hospital, but don't believe in natural immunity?
A vaccine is like an internship for the real virus or disease. A "test trial."
People who have had COVID and developed natural immunity is like hands-on field experience.

Your analogy would be like saying it's stupid for everyone to not take an internship, even if they have years of actual experience for a job.

[Slartybartfast]

@MCheetah I showed your response to a doctor at work. He just shook his head and looked sad. I think he's tired of arguing with people who obviously have little understanding of basic biology, much less viral propagation, immune response etc.. but then again I've had people who can barely do long division debate engineering and programming with me so I understand the frustration he must feel.

Smallpox used to go through the population and kill or blind half of those infected. It went through waves and waves of death over a period of centuries. Yes , each time a few more percentage of people were less affected generation to generation untill only %30 were dead each wave..

Here's what we are finding out about those who survived covid.

Most have permanent damage to several organs, brain, heart, eyes and nervous tissue. The long-term effects will be lowering lifespans for decades.

[MCheetah]

So you're implying you know more than all the other medical professionals who are against forced vaccinations, then?

What of the long-term affections of the COVID vaccine? Specifically the Johnson and Johnson one the CDC disapproved of? Or the AstraZeneca one that also had issues? Are we supposed to be fools for not taking something that was rushed out onto the market through Trump's Operation Warp Speed plan, and then FORCED onto people by Biden? Even *if* you were 100% correct (and I don't believe you are), the handling of this pandemic and the vaccines, has been catastrophic. Most logical people aren't going to trust something politicians are forcing you to take, or lose your job over, that was rushed out in a matter of months, instead of the years vaccines normally take to produce (for a virus and disease far less lethal than the ones in the past). You can't rush people's health and safety, and it's ethically wrong to suggest otherwise.

I for one despise the politicization of this more than anyone, but you can't imply everyone is an idiot for not listening to the same liars and politicians who have f*cked up handling this whole pandemic for the last two years. Maybe if one or two world leaders outside of Scandinavia, were actually semi-competent and didn't try to force vaccines on people for threats of losing their jobs, all so they could clean up on Wall Street, then the "deaths" you claim to see daily, wouldn't be so high.

Don't blame people for not believing known liars and corruptors and risking their health and safety to trust over it.

[dumbassmcgee]

@MCheetah I'm stupid to not be vaxxed? That's entertaining. It's stupid to be vaxxed.

[MCheetah]

@dumbassmcgee
Unless you responded to the wrong person, I was quoting someone else. I'm the one AGAINST mandatory vaccinations.

[Slartybartfast]

@TDDMS
I'm looking at the CDC website, what are you looking at?

[Slartybartfast]

Wow, just wow..

Science isn't a belief system. It's a way to avoid our own tendencies to lie to ourselves. When you can prove all the q-anon conspiracies I'll change my mind. Publish a paper and have it reviewed publicly then defend it with reproducible prof or stop spreading misinformation that is killing people.

[dumbassmcgee]

@mcheetah Oh. My bad.

[MCheetah]

@Slartybartfast
Science also isn't rigid, unchanging, and impossible to scrutinize. Any actual scientist, or intelligent person. knows this. So yeah, science kind of IS a belief system. This should be especially evident with all the BS going on right now with Anthony Fauci and how much social media censors facts because it doesn't support THEIR so-called "science."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iegHHWzGNAs

[dumbassmcgee]

@slartybartfast You are a liar.

[string43]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this. This is to me the question of our times and not one with an easy answer. It can be frustrating how binary people seem to be on this. I have lost friends due to them feeling threatened by a nuanced approach to this.
What I find most unsettling about this is that it sets the stage to expect 100% compliance with the dictums of agencies under tremendous political pressures that make it difficult to establish any sort of trust even if they are well intentioned with road to being what it is.
And I say this as someone who did get vaccinated. Keep true to your convictions I’m glad there are still a few lights in this dark.

[Aerissa_Jade]

One thing people forget is the Polio vaccine took 20+ years or so to develop, plus there was trial runs where manufacturing issues actually gave Polio to people.

I fully expect by 2024 or 2025 there will not be too much opposition to the covid vaccine anymore, might take a little longer.

The US has legal protections to give the manufacturers blanket legal immunity from lawsuits for serious side effects. That alone tells everyone it can't be safe, if they have the need for that.

One of the few things Trump did that Biden has left in place.

[goaded]

The polio vaccine was developed halfway between now and the civil war. The covid vaccines have been given to billions of people, more than the 1950's population of the Earth. If they were anything like as dangerous as the covid virus, we'd have noticed long ago.

[goaded]

mRNA vaccines do not affect your DNA. You have been misinformed.

They are also effective. Otherwise the number of vaccinated people dying would match the proportion of unvaccinated people dying, and it doesn't, not by a long way. Simply put, your (admittedly low, at 15) chance of dying is reduced by 20x by vaccination and boosting.

If you don't know these things, you haven't been looking in the right places.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/mrna.html
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-surveillance-reports

[Massageman]

Thank you for a breath of fresh air.

(One of ) the big problems with the Wuhan virus is the fact that you can be infected, be contagious, yet still have very mild symptoms. Then BANG, it hits you like a ton of bricks on that 4th or 5th day! But a few days later when you still feel like a pile of poop, you are considered not longer "contagious". And that timeline is only approximate since each variant has its own idiosyncrasies.

The "vaccines" created and released for "emergency use", are really treatments and not preventative vaccines. We're waiting for Nova-max- more of a true vaccine- to be approved for use in the United States. Of course, the biggest stumbling blocks are likely to be the Big Pharma special interest people getting in the way.

[Anonymous]

If you look at the BIGGER picture. Of vaccine back then 80s/90s whatever. Then at government world leaders, how they are against each other. Republican vs Democrats, Asia vs Asia, Asia vs American. They are instilling fear on the people for vaccine mandates, while telling them it’s the other countries fault or party vs party.

To put it simple:

The title is: Covid/omicron/ vaccination

But the summary is: government world leaders telling the people to take vaccination because of the different countries/party.

[Paige90]

I agree with you 100%. I am not against a real vaccine (the current Covid shot does not prevent Covid so it isn't a vaccine). I am against being told I have to get it or I can't go or do certain things. I also don't believe a year is long enough to test any medicine.

[Levin]

You are the coolest 15 year old ever.

How do your mates feel about this and what proportion of them have taken the death jab?

I was watching this today, 'tis where I am on the matter.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/0LG7Xr-M46s

[imsocool1806]

thanks lol
basically all my friends have taken it through the school and had both jabs - i just don't talk about it because when i did i got called an anti vaxxer. oh well their loss ig - when i did tell one friend about how it works they got scared yet still had to get the vaccine later on

[EmyyWolf]

The “medicine” literally came out in less than a year from the “sickness” happening.

Y’all think about THAT!

Bet you that the “sickness” ISS inside the “medicine”!!! Bet you that the ZOMBIE VIRUS is inside of that! F*lken Sheeeeep!! BEHHHHH! F*lken BOTS !!!
BOTS!!!
Watch how y’all doom everyone for being little gullible p$$$izzz

[Waldoe]

Personal Freedom is supposed to be Guaranteed by the U. S. Constitution... I chose to take the vaccine, I am 71, that was MY choice... your have the RIGHT to make your own choices... I have fought and I will fight to defend that Right. Make your own decisions, based on whatever influences you want.. Stars, Holoscope, roll the dice... whatever... it is your choice

[Waldoe]

if... you choose to NOT get the vaccine, (and God forbid), you get COVID, I am still protected, I hope, by my choice to get the vaccine... so it's still "NONE OF MY BUSINESS"

[dumbassmcgee]

71 kind of might make sense. That don't mean killing babies is ok, long as the baby Daddy can always deny child support. Do libtards ever make any kind of sense?

[AviatorTom]

You have a good mind for a 15 year old. Well thought out essay.

[abc3643]

Read and learn.
https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/

[dumbassmcgee]

How about the adverse reactions website?

[dumbassmcgee]

What kind of sadistic avatar is that?

[abc3643]

@dumbassmcgee There are ALWAYS adverse reactions to somethings. With billions of people on this planet, each of us is going to have an adverse reaction to something. For instance, I was never allergic to anything. Then, when I was 55, I got prostatitis and had to take an antibiotic. They gave me ciprofloxacin. It worked great but, after a day, my left side of my face swelled up making it difficult to talk clearly. I was off cipro and given something else.

Should ciprofloxacin be banned or not used? Of course not! It helps millions every day. It even helped me, but __I__ shouldn't take it again because __I__ had an allergic reaction For others, they won't and ciprofloxacin wiill save their life.

[dumbassmcgee]

So why should I be vaxxed? And quadrupled boosted?

[dumbassmcgee]

Just a 98% chance I won't die, 99.7777% in my age group, if you think I'm 100 you believe Biden got 81 quadrillion votes.

[dumbassmcgee]

Then what do you dumbasses do? You vaxx babies and 5-11 yr olds. You should be lined up and executed.

[abc3643]

@dumbassmcgee OK, obviously, you are an idiot. You've been vaccinated since you were an infant and is required to attend public school. It has been this way for generations.

Anyway, being such an idiot, you are wasting my time.

[joeldalton]

We will never achieve herd immunity with this shots because they have such a high failure rate.

Best bet is to get omicron if you can. Natural immunity is best.

[dumbassmcgee]

Sheeeitt, I've probably had covid 8 times and don't even know it. It's so deadly.

[TheBigGuy9]

Most teachers in schools are leftists. They have an agenda to run. They want to brainwash young kids.

[dumbassmcgee]

I live in a dem ran crap hole of state, the metro area, and two big cities, otherwise it's all red, and we are all sane, makes sense right?

[TheBigGuy9]

Same here

[dumbassmcgee]

Of course. The whole country, you live outside a populated area it's red. Most counties won ever vs the least, yet 81 quadrillion votes happened without shenanigans?

[TheBigGuy9]

Oh yeah, I know it was a total fraud. Stopping counting twice. In my opinion, they will cheat again in the primaries, but will do it in battleground states.

[DevinAM]

I'm not opposed to vaccines as a concept but I don't do needles, besides I have various anti-germ habits that have kept me healthy.

[Mister_Hangry]

Your public school has turned you into a socialist.

[Anonymous]

They can do it without you. All that virtue signiling is too much for me

[EffaMan]

They can do it without you