Okay all you pampered, soft, upper middle class, First World, Millennial/Zoomer snowflakes, listen up!

[MCheetah]

Okay, so I had a certain triggered user here on GAG write a MyTake basically looking their nose down on everyone, preaching to everyone, and then telling them "If you don't like respecting each other, then you can't leave."

I left a response saying "I disagree with all of this, but will respect your right to say it." The user then insisted why I disagree with her points. This is my response to this, and it can apply to any triggered snowflake out there. I won't be using 100% of what they wrote, keep in mind, but I will be trying to quote them as succinctly as I can.

The "Feminism is only about equality" Argument:

"I have had just about enough of people using the derogatory term feminazi or witch, and do I even have to explain why these are wrong to call people? Feminists aren’t anti-men. True feminists believe in equality. "Fake feminists" are sexist. If you think feminism is a cult or if you downplay the opposite gender’s problems, unfollow me. If you promote sexism, rape, or domestic violence then unfollow me."

My Counterargument:

Feminists are sh*tty, angry, horrible, pathetic, miserable people. It doesn't take much research to find out the movement is quite *LITERALLY* about hating men and extreme jealousy over them, and claiming "no they don't" is irrelevant to 174 years of actions that say otherwise. It's pure misandry, regardless or what people on the internet think.

The "Did you know racism is bad?!" Argument:

"Stop generalizing and enough with the slurs. Don’t sexualize women OR men just because they’re from another ethnicity. Also, don’t be prejudiced against people from other countries."

My Counterargument:

Liking someone from a specific race or nationality isn't "problematic." Or the term you use, "sexualizing" them. How TF can *liking* someone be bigotry and racism? Regardless if it's love or lust. Also, the shorter and easier counterargument to this: CHINA. Or NORTH KOREA. Or hell, try telling this BS to Ukraine right now. Yeah, saying "don't hate other countries," or even their government, isn't so black and white. Especially when you take a pampered upper-middle class white girl out of North America and show them how much South Korea hates Japan, or how much China hates everyone.

The "Homophobes and Transphobes" Argument:

"This is getting so ridiculous. You don’t have to actively support the way some members of these communities behave, but you do have to treat them like people!"

My Counterargument:

No. No, you don't. Respect and politeness is not automatically given to you. If someone is an asshole and always accusing me of being "homophobic" or "transphobic" because I merely disagree with them, they can kiss my black ass. Respect is a two-way street and I only respect people worthy of it, not because they're gay, trans, or etc. The implied argument is, if someone is gay or trans or asexual or disable, you have to kiss their ass! Because of what they are, and not who they are, as a person. My response? Nah! I treat everyone based on how they treat me. I'm not going to kowtow to them because they're LGBT or in a wheelchair. Assholes are assholes regardless of their position on the "Progressive Stack."

The "You must respect all religions!" Argument:

"You don’t have to agree with my personal beliefs to get along with me. It doesn’t matter what someone believes, as long as they’re not making ritual human sacrifices."

My Counterargument:

I don't have to agree with someone's personal beliefs to get along with them. But on that same note, I don't have to do anything someone wants me to do purely based on their religious beliefs, either. One word: Islam. I don't respect it and I don't think it's helpful to anyone or compatible with the Western world. I am not automatically rude to Muslims, but I do tell them honestly and politely I loathe their violent, barbaric ideology and don't respect it. That's the thing: Atheists and agnostics don't have to kiss the asses or deeply religious people, and religious people don't have to fake it for atheists and agnostics.

The "Political" argument

Why should you feel the need to attack me for my political views? It is so easy to be respectful of other people. I deserve just as much respect for my personal opinions as everyone else does.

My Counterargument:

I don't have a problem with this on the surface, as much as I have a problem with this:
"I DESERVE just as much respect for my personal opinions as everyone else does!" That's the problem right there. People thinking they're entitled to respect. Even contradicting their own arguments in that 'ists and phobes' aren't worthy of respect. Oh the irony!

The "Anything a man says to a woman that she doesn't agree with is 'harassment' " argument

"If you do speak to [girls and women] on the internet this way, you are promoting rape culture. Don’t ask me inappropriate questions. Another thing someone did was challenge me to a fight if I “had the ovaries,” then she blocked me. Seriously, this is so immature."

My Counterargument:

Says the girl who blocked me for respectfully disagreeing with her. Oh the irony again! Then again, hypocrites thrives on the internet. Also, "if you say something I deem to be inappropriate, YOU ARE PROMOTING RAPE CULTURE!" BS like this is why I don't respect people who think in this way.

Rape culture isn't a real thing (in the West) and claiming it is, speaks of someone who's never been to the Middle East or outside of the Western world before. Even reading that makes me cringe. Also what women consider "harassment" nowadays is such a joke, I don't take it seriously anymore. Nobody is entitled to kiss your ass and harassment can ONLY ever be intentional from someone. Just because you don't like what someone said, or how unattractive the person saying it is, doesn't constitute "harassment." And this is actually offensive to actual women who have actually been harassed. Not just the "Ugly guy said Hi to me; how dare he!" BS of young upper middle class Western women nowadays. This is First World Entitlement and Divaisms to the extreme.

My Closing Argument:

People should spend more time working on THEMSELVES than whining about others being -ists and -phobes. But that requires actual effort, while complaining about "how wrong everyone else is" doesn't. You want to change the world? Work on yourself first and lead by example.

And of course, after that, she blocked me. How pathetic. But I'm not mad or anything; I simply made a MyTake out of it. :)

[Heartache0405]

I agree with you 110%
Seems to me like you won this discussion. Wish I were as well versed instead of coming across as a complete dumbass when I attempt to have a debate and end up looking like an idiot. Giving these misandristic women points while I just end up angry at both then and myself which just give them what they want. I keep telling myself to just leave the debating to the ones who know what they’re doing but i happen to come across misandristic bs and just feel the need to say something that in my head sounds smart but instead makes me sound like I have no idea what I’m talking about and can’t back it up when I’ve seen and heard it with my own eyes and ears. But that’s not enough. All I’ve been doing is gaining more and more hate toward women this way. To the point where earring feminine voices on the radio pisses me off. Hell, even hearing about women’s history month this whole god forsaken month has been absolute torture. Makes me feel like the bitch who falsely accused me and all my exes who cheated on me get empowerment instead of karma. That just doesn’t sit well with me at all. It festers in the pit of my stomach and I end up telling myself the only way to get back at women is by not giving them me. So I have no female friends. I haven’t had a relationship in 7 years. That’s really the best I can do.

[MCheetah]

Thanks.

And while I understand why you would feel angry about women, I'd suggest not falling into the trap of Inceldom. You just have to seek out more good women, or at least, recognize WHY some of these pathetic women are the way they are. I've talked to and tried honestly debating and understanding so many feminists over the years, only to reach the same conclusion: They're just hateful miserable people. There's nothing you can do about that.

I know it sounds hollow in 2022 but Not All Women Are Like That. (NAWALT) Granted, I believe MOST humans are very predictable and you can assess them and their personality to a T if you have enough pre-requisite knowledge about them. But people can still surprise you everyday.

One user on here (Let's just call her "VioletMommy") I used to think was just a standard, man-hating feminist with a stick up her ass who hated all men. Turns out, she's actually just British and posts a LOT of phallic questions to suggest she doesn't hate men like a modern feminist does.

So yeah, don't become a full Misanthrope or Incel yet. I know about your false accusation story too, and I had something similar happen to me in university, so I know how you feel.

[Heartache0405]

I still refuse to give myself over to a woman after all the cheating. After being single for so long I’ve found that I’m not relationship material. And so I learned to use that to my benefit. I don’t like intimacy. I don’t like sexual intercourse. I don’t like the idea of marriage. And seeing how misandristic women today have become and how selfish their interests are, even the ones who come across as nice and understanding, they’re still selfish underneath all of that. I have no trust to give anyway either. Just reject everyone and be alone. Unfortunately there are men out there who care so very little about themselves. These women can have them.

[MCheetah]

Well, you don't have to be with a woman, but dying alone isn't fun for anyone. At the very least, get a dog or cat, if you can.

[Heartache0405]

I might get a pet someday. Better than a woman. I’ve grown up with dogs but I work a lot and wouldn’t be around enough to take care of a dog. Maybe I’d get a cat cuz they’re easier to take care of but my dad wouldn’t stay long if he came over because he claims to be allergic. Maybe I’ll get a bird or something but I think my apartment only allows either cats or dogs.

[KlinkyCoder]

You don't get to have sex or have a feeling of sexual attraction and human-like intimacy with a pet though, unless you have a bizarre zoophilia kink.

[MCheetah]

@KlinkyCoder
In my experience, sex is overrated anyway and does nothing but hold men back from being better versions of themselves. Sex is only worth it if it's with a decent caring woman you love. Good luck finding an unattached decent caring woman in 2022.

I've said it before on GAG, but I wish I could just be asexual. I'd be so much more productive if I never thought about relationships with women.

[Mangospacho]

Well, for what it’s worth, and I could be proven wrong but I think feminism is on the decline especially now that MGTOW is catching on and resonating more with people who see the flaws of feminism. What’s ironic is how feminism is systemic and any criticism of feminism is seen as being part of the system. “Smashing the patriarchy” is a rally cry but it’s already been smashed and feminism offers no solutions for problems today. Feminism is the system and it’s still blaming other people for the problems it created. We’ll see over time but I think feminism is about to destroy itself.

[MCheetah]

Third Wave feminism has been a thing since 1992 (the "Patriarchy, Wage Gap, Rape Culture, anti-male" version) and Fourth Wave feminism (the "intersectional, Bell Hooks, women of color, transwomen, all straight CIS white males are bad") has been a thing since 2012. As far as I know, these things go in cycles. Feminism and woke culture will probably be dead by 2027-2030, but will come back again in another 15-20 years. Who knows how bad Fifth Wave feminism will be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7LTzEmnyms

[KlinkyCoder]

Yes, but they are indoctrinated to think this way. It's outrageous and I will never respect those who are intentionally doing this stuff to youth.

[Fuentes]

That woman lives under a rock lol