Why Russia is Invading Ukraine

[OddBeMe]

Umm…I just found out Putin writes articles on the web. Maybe I wasn’t looking for it until now. But this article seems to articulate Putin’s reasons for invading Ukraine.

On the Historical Unity of Russians and Ukrainians

From the author who brought you Trump’s presidency. Just joking. Sort of.

But the title loses me on the first word. “On”. That means what follows exists. It doesn’t. I could write “On the Historical Unity of Canada and the US.” Doesn’t mean we should invade Canada.

The article goes on to teach the history of the Russian language and how that means all who speak it should be some ethno-national state. No, no no. No, no.

That was Hitler’s reason for invading the Sudetenland. I know…Godwin’s Law. But this Ukraine war has horrible ancestors. Believing fellow speakers of your language should be ruled by you…is nuts.

Almost as nuts as wanting to buy Greenland.

http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/66181

[Anonymous]

Nonsense. All ukranians supporters who didn't give a shit about all the innocent people who have been dying for YEARS by urkanian hands, now suddenly see a bunch of dead people on the news which tells them this is who did it and this is why he did it, and you run to point the finger and agree to all the bs propaganda usa feeds the world.

Had ukranians not started killing off innocent people IN ukranian land for so many years, had putin not been ignored all these years for it to stop, all this would have been avoided.

sitting there saying this is hitler and just wants to regain ussr just because the western propaganda feeds you that, is just absurd. How many innocent people had to die in silence for years! for this to happen, and yet still ukranian supporters do not give a shit about all those who died and continue to die by ukranian hands. The saddest thing is, ukrine now yells for help and the world sends more weapons to only further continue their genocide and using this situation at hand as an opportunity to continue to kill innocent civilians who speak russian in ukraine and blame it on the Russians because why not they are already there and the world will believe it. It's disgusting but hard sad reality and all fails to see because anywhere you look there is another bent truth, if you try to research anything you only get stoped by another article that only verifies that the previous lie you just read is a "truth". Usa has so much power that is why they are able to control most of the media that goes out to the public.

nobody stops to think why none of the other deaths were ever shown to us, any of the bombings going on for years! nobody even cared because they didn't know, and as the truth starts to come out they easily just dismiss it at 'oh well, the russians must have done it, and so the audience will just accept that and go on about their lives with the deaths instilled into their brains as Russias doing. it's so sick.

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

You can use a little tool where you can filter publications based on their publication date and you'll find that when the war in the Donbass was raging (2014-2016) there were plenty of MAINTSTREAM WESTERN news outlets talking about it. Yes there has been sporadic clashes since 2016 BUT the majority of violations were committed by the separatists up until 24 Feb 2022.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsskeEeMRmM

[Opinion Owner]

Dude when you see death even when you try to shop for something or simply listening to the radio, blaming our ears our eyes and minds with all these deaths you cannot just say search this place and you will see someone was talking about these other deaths... 🤦‍♀️
Ukranians were bombing the shit out of these innocent people, there is footage of it, and you simply repeating what the media has reported as "this is what happened" ridiculous. Just because the media says so does not make it true, just because it repeats it over and over until people like you go on repeating it as well does not make it true, You can go to Donbas and speak with the people who lived through that hell, the little that are left however if any because most were killed off and now apparently ukraine is still happily killing them and blaming russia for it. it's sick, but all the people brainwashed with our media applaud for the real killers.

[Opinion Owner]

Blasting*!

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

It's not just the media claiming that there were abuses on both sides, it's the UN human rights watch:

www.ohchr.org/.../UAReport17th_EN.pdf

So now you're just playing on the "selectively outraged western media" trope.

[Anonymous]

cuz ukraine suckssssssssss

[OddBeMe]

Are you being forced to post this? Is a Kalashnikov aimed at your head right now?

[Aerissa_Jade]

@OddBeMe It is true, it sucks to be in Ukraine right now, mass murders of civilians, god forbid your a woman for drunk Russian soldiers (or the Wagner group) to come have their fun with... I agree with her, Ukraine sucks to be in right now.

She might have one pointed at her head though.

[Opinion Owner]

@Aerissa_Jade @oddbeme truth hurts

[Aerissa_Jade]

I did agree with you that it does suck to be there.

[Opinion Owner]

hail mother russia

[Aerissa_Jade]

Sure, lets hail rapists and murderers... must be proud to give your man permission to rape Ukrainian women so long as they wear a condom.

[Opinion Owner]

@Aerissa_Jade --tf
thousands of people die everyday
it was already planned by god they have. to die

[Aerissa_Jade]

Russian soldiers have been recorded on phone calls asking their wife if they can rape Ukrainian women and in one case the wife said yes, just wear a condom.

This is well documented and undisputed.

Personally I'd rather NATO just get involved, and if Russia decides to use nukes so be it, nuke them back. Let them make the first move though in launching them.

Better we all die than allow what is going on to continue, human kind does not deserve to exist, when they allow genocide and gang rapes of people. At least the suffering would end, once we are all dead... and as you said, it was planned by god, we all die in the end.

[Opinion Owner]

@Aerissa_Jade are you crazy? it's all fake

[Aerissa_Jade]

I see your getting your news from state run media. Try some independent non government news sources rather than what Moscow is feeding you.

[Anonymous]

Why am I not surprised you couldn’t not mention Trump? It’s sad man. Truly. When you go to Starbucks do you order your vanilla latte with extra Trump?

[OddBeMe]

Sorry that I care about actual corruption. And BS like CRT.

[goaded]

Wasn't Russia part of the Ukrainian Empire? Shouldn't Putin be surrendering his country to Ukraine?

[OddBeMe]

they are actually all Khanate states.

[OldWorldOrder]

Anybody who knows anything about Eastern Europe knows why this conflict is taking place.

NATO wants to stage first-strike nuclear infrastructure as close to Southwestern Russia as they can get. They want to be able to wipe out ~75% of Russia's strategic targets with nuclear-armed hypersonic cruise missiles within 5 minutes.

[CaptainSmartass]

Putin is basically Hitler 2.0 if you think about it.

Simples...

[Snsl153]

Once you feel the need to bring Hitler into an argument, you've already lost it.

[CaptainSmartass]

@snsl153 I'm simply making a comparison, not trying to win an argument.

[Snsl153]

Your comparison is ridiculous. People compared Trump to Hitler as well when he was in office. It's childish and stupid.

[Aerissa_Jade]

Not 2.0 but something entirely worse altogether. Even Hitler let the trapped soldiers at Dunkirk retreat, Putin is attempted to massacre them all.

[OddBeMe]

@Aerissa_Jade No, Hitler sent his air force in to finish off at Dunkirk while the army rested after being high on meth for a week. But Goering failed.

[Anonymous]

Same reason Hitler invaded Poland. Russia wants to reclaim lost territory after the Cold War, just as Hitler wanted to reclaim lost territory after WWI. Hitler and Putin are nationalists who want their nation to be as big and powerful as possible.

[anylolone]

For the same reason why russia invaded ex soviet states twice under clinton and bush father.

[NewtoTheSouth]

Just out of curiosity, what states were those?

[anylolone]

@NewtoTheSouth Georgia, moldova, chechnya, chechnya.

[msc545]

The Russians invaded Ukraine after the US threatened to make Ukraine a member of NATO.

[OddBeMe]

true, but so are most eastern euro countries.

[msc545]

Most eastern European countries are also not sitting on the Russian border

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

Ukraine wanted to join NATO because Russia violated the security guarantee they gave them in 1993 (in exchange for nuclear disarmament) with their annexation of Crimea.

[msc545]

@Ad_Quid_Orator Why would invading Crimea concern Ukraine?

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

Is that a serious question?

[msc545]

@Ad_Quid_Orator yes

[EffaMan]

God Damn wars

[OddBeMe]

Rich men wage, poor men die.

[Sevenpointfive]

there's no reason why he shouldn't

[goaded]

Well, there's all the dead people... Most people would consider that a reason not to do something.

[Sevenpointfive]

@goaded that's not a good reason. that's like saying the civil war wasn't justified

[goaded]

The US civil war, for slavery? It wasn't!

[Sevenpointfive]

@goaded well people died to make a nation whole again

[OddBeMe]

are you guys saying the Civil War was unjustified from the Confederate point of view?

off topic, but it was ultimately about slavery.

[goaded]

The confederate states were part of a union with democratic (for the time, at least) mechanisms for change. They didn't like the result of that process and started a war. It was not justified.

Britain bought out their slave owners, which meant a peaceful transition although the debt was finally repaid just a few years ago.

[Sevenpointfive]

@goaded any war is justified in someone's point of view

[goaded]

So, if someone punches you in the face because they think you're "looking at them funny", that's OK because it's justified from their point of view?

[Sevenpointfive]

@goaded absolutely. it doesn't mean it's what others would do. it might not be right.. but i could see his pov

[goaded]

You do realise that Putin grew up as a gangster and applied to join the KGB (the biggest gang in the USSR) when he was a teenager? What you're saying is that there's no reason why gangs shouldn't take over peaceful areas and terrorise the population.

[Sevenpointfive]

@goaded that's exactly right. i wouldn't suggest it, but you people weigh the consequences of their actions before putting them into practice. that's exactly what putin has done. he is not stupid