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I rarely ever resort to that "friendzone" nonsense. The girl has to either
A) Be really ugly or
B) have an STD or
C) be already taken.
Otherwise, what's the point? I won't date a hag, I don't want to get sick, and I don't like stealing. Plain and simple. If she irritates me too much to date, I'll let her know that. But to shun her for "no damn reason at all"? That's silliness, no matter who does it.
I don't blame women for putting us in the friend zone. It isn't their fault. I hate it because I'll never have anything more. I am depressed because I was rejected but at least I might still have her appreciation. And friendship. But I respect her enough that I want her to be with who she wants. And if she is happy I'm all good. She is not a demon because she doesn't think of me the same. And just by the way I'm sorry but I kept reading after you said not to.
I hate the friendzone. I was interested in this girl once and this other one perused me no end. when I stopped being with that other girl, the one who wanted to be with me was like "oh I just wanna be friends" I left that other girl, for the one who was perusing me, and I get that? wow!
*sigh* What a waste of time
oh it gets worse.. she's like "I think of you as a brother"...
This is kind of unavoidable. People always ask "Is it possible for men and women to just be friends?"
The answer is: probably, but it's unlikely and a great risk that someone's feelings will be hurt in the future. Unless you feel you just can't live without friendship with such a person my advice would just be to never have any female friends. It will save you heartache, and despite the benefits of friendship with this person, the potential cons far outweigh the pros for both of you. This is something everyone should know post-High School...
It might be different if you're both married, or both in a relationship, but then the possibility of cheating becomes a factor--or so I've been told. Fortunately I've never been in such a situation, that would be too much drama for me.
Thank you!!!
I hate it when guys are like "but i was so nice to her i listened to her problems we have fun hanging out" - yeah, that's what friends do!
Then they'll say "she was using me" No, she was accepting your friendship. I will ask my friends for advice and tell them my problems, and they know that they can always come to me for advice and I'll listen to their problems. That's how friendship works. If you can't recognize that, then you don't know what friendship is.
Thank you! The victim mentality on "friendzoned" guys is the worst.
well its not a friendzone until the other person knows that the other person likes them and doesn't make it clear that they dont like them back
@RoastedCat not all guys use the term in that way... and even if you ask me out and I say I only see you as a friend, you have 2 choices: stop talking to me, or be my friend. If you choose to be my friend, don't complain that I treat you like I treat the rest of my friends. And please don't pretend to be my friend in the hopes that if "you're nice enough I'll finally have sex with you."
Friendzonning how nice guys become assholes and how women become confirmed bitches. Some guys (such as myself) have put girls into the friendzone and you know what I didn't feel good about nor did I blame her. Some one likes you are you're going woe is me. Friendzone happens one two people (male and/or female) fail to communicate in which neither party is totally to blame.
It all starts from that sense of entitlement that a guy feels a girl is obligated to show him a certain response just because he showed interest. "Normal" guys understand that not everyone is going to be into you like that and if they don't reciprocate, move on.
This is something lost on the "other" guys though, as well as them getting far too attached or hopeful for a certain outcome before they even do anything about the situation.
So it's part confusion for them, and partly a way to heal their hurt pride and disappointment (by blaming the girl for not being interested... imagine that).
Good article
Thank you for being part of the normal group and recognizing that these "other" guys exist!
I do what I can... so, want to see my dick?
nah i don't wanna see a pedophile's penis
Joke lol
I didn't laugh
Your problem
I never thought about this much before, as I have never minded being 'friend zoned'; personally I have no problem being just friends with someone that I find attractive. Totally agreed; if she's not interested, man up and move on, but don't be an asshole to the girl at the same time.
We're not entitled to sex, you're not entitled to relationships. So remember that the next time a guy pumps and dumps.
I know situations where a girl with a boyfriend is friends with another guy just to have him as a backup just in case things go wrong with the boyfriend. I'm not saying every girl does it but it does happen. People use each other all the time. Guys use girls for sex. Girls use guys for emotional support.
I agree but I'm also sick of girls complaining about being friends with benefits zoned. Just like a guy isn't entitled to sex just because he's nice to you. Girls aren't entitled to a relationship just because you're having sex with him.
I think it's a problem if it's not established in the beginning that that's all it is. If you guys start out and you tell her sex is all you want then of course she shouldn't be mad when it's all that happens. Just like a friendship, so that the guy isn't whining about being "friendzoned".
It's a problem if the guy doesn't want more than a relationship and doesn't tell her that's all he wants, and it's the guy's fault that he wants to complain about a woman not wanting him. Are you sexist? Honestly, are you sexist? Do you hate men? Do you have a good relationship with any male figures? Because if I blame those things on women, you'll probably think of me as sexist.
I don't see what sounds sexist about what I said. I thought we were on the same page tbh. I said if they BOTH established that it's just sex it's fine but if either party leads the other one it's a problem. And no I'm not sexist and I have great relationships with the male figures in my life. If you blame a girl for rejecting you after she says she's just your friend you're an asshole, not sexist.
Oops sorry, I thought the replier was the original opinion owner.
What is potentially (and note I'm saying potentially here!) sexist, take owner, is that in the friends with benefits case, you seem to feel it's the man's responsibility to tell her before hand that it's just sex.
And in the friend zone case, you seem to feel it's the... guys' fault if he doesn't check beforehand to see if it's just friendship.
I can see why you'd see them differently, but it's probably worth seeing why they're also sort of similar.
In both cases, tbh, I think the problem is naivete, inexperience, lack of real teaching from older people about how dating actually works, and a false assumption that men and women are the same. Since most boys (it's boys not men) being friendzoned are behaving in a way that TO THEM is obviously not just friends, they assume she feels the same. Since most girls who sleep with a guy without discussing it and assume it means he 'likes' her only would sleep with a guy she 'likes' she assumes he feels the same.
There is no "friend zone" really. It's just entitled men whining and having a hissy fit because a girl didn't give them sex. Tch, it's just pathetic.
Good post by the way.
That's a good summation. Thank you.
The "friend-zoned" guys need to get over it. If you were being nice to someone just because you wanted to get with them, than it wasn't really being nice or being a good friend now was it?
Agreed.
Good points. Oftentimes a man hurt because of being friendzoned never had the guts to ask the girl to be his in the first place.
Damn the last sentence made me laugh. lOl. The girl doesn't own you a shit. What a scumbag these guys are. ^^
Take was good but
what's the point of writing "Don't continue reading if you're one of those guys."? How are you supposed to send your message to the guys who believe in friendzone? Rest knows that already.
I never really cared about the friend zone title too much. If I get rejected by a friend, so be it. But at least I got it off of my chest and I can stop wasting my time. But I will say though is, I don't necessarily believe that you can only date women when you first meet because after that you'll never have the opportunity again. I always find it fascinating when you're friends with someone and you get to know them better, and while you do, you start to realize that you both are a match
I think being friends can help
I agree. I have never dated a woman or "stranger" that I just met. I befriend them first and then get to know them. So Being friends can help in my opinion. Obviously you agree as well. But there will always be those guys who differ and go on rants about it
No you're right. Of course you gotta be friends first to have a relationship. I meant becoming friends and then being bitter when it doesn't move past that.
Oh I see. I can't explain much about the bitterness. I had a friend that believed in the ffriendzone theory. He took it waaaay too serious when he was rejected
The friendzone is not about entitlement or obligation, it's about women misleading men and sending mixed signals that cause them to hang in there with the hope of sex. Stop trying to make every man out to be a misogynist with this feminazi crap.
Can you please explain how my vagina can read minds? Maybe if you guys SPEAK UP, you wouldn't be 'led on'.
Also, unless she's only looking for fuck buddies, that's extremely shallow to only be around her for sex.
Basically, if they aren't attracted to you, THEY AREN'T ATTRACTED. That's all there is to it.
@sandyyy_ ''Lisa is NOT obligated to want to be your girlfriend.''.. Agreed.
Just remember that Chad Thundercock is NOT obligated to tell you beforehand that he just wanted to bang you an that's it, as well~!
#Kthxbai
Miscer detected lmfao