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Totally agree, many use it as an excuse and something to blame.
rather than dealing with it.
The difference is... When a guy start buying you lunch and dinner and showering you with gifts... Probably time to know what's up and be frontal about it dont you think?
No. If she didn't ask for all those things, you're just being blind and trying to win her love with money
I suppose then buying gifts for your friends and family is also "winning their love with money" then.
You speak as it it's emotional prostitution when the fact is they are trying to be NICE to someone , make that someone they love be happy.
When you recieve a gift from your parents say you're not just recieving the gift , but also the message that they love you. If you take that gift from someone who is showing clear signs that they love you more than friends but as lovers , you are acknowledging their love and reaffirming their assumption that.
"Hey , maybe she loves me back to. The message got through"
What makes a guy mad is not being "friendzoned" but being "deceived" into thinking they are pursuing a romantic interest when in the end the goal was not achieved. To pursue a love interest and make her happy as a lover.
If a girl just go out of the way and say
"Hey , I like you but only as a friend"
There will be MUCH less angst from men I think.
Soooo friends and family are in the same category as a girl you're pursuing? Do you plan on french kissing your friends and family? You have sex with them? Obviously the two aren't the same. Buying gifts for a girl because you like her, is not the same as buying gifts for close friends and families. Obviously if you know someone doesn't care about you the way you care about them you don't waste your money on them wtf that's basic knowledge. It's your own fault if you spend like $1000 on a girl because you think she'll owe you a relationship after those gifts. You're too grown to be using this argument, try again with a better one.
You're basically grasping at straws there.
The key concept I was trying to convey was.
If you accept a gift , you are also accepting the message BEHIND the gift.
So if you accept a gift from someone who loves you , you acknowledge and RECEIVES his love along with the gift.
Would you take a gift from someone you hate? I hope not , cos that speaks a bit about your moral character.
Look... if that simple message can't be understood then it's a waste of time for me , it's a waste of time for you to go on.
If I get a gift, I'll accept it. Of course if someone gives me 500 dollars I'll take it but that doesn't mean I owe them a relationship (if they like me). I'm just gonna assume they're giving me gifts to be nice if they don't tell me why they're really doing it. And if it's a problem that I accepted the gifts without any romantic feelings for them, I'll gladly return whatever gifts I received.
Sigh... ...
Tysm for a short reply, i'd rather forget this mytake for now
I agree with this, I don't want a friend that's a girl. I want something romantic I won't trick her into being my friend. It's not fair. But you can't hate on a guy for not wanting to be just friends, just like you can't hate the girl for not wanting to be more.
The friend zone is not different than traffic, it happens to everyone and they like to complain about it. The complaining just makes people feel better about this thing that was inevitable.
I think it's the fact that you think it is going to romantically work out and in the end every is fine and perfect except the file is not showing some romantic feeling back and that hurts that you invested some resources and made a loss.
Don't know where you get the idea that the purpose of the term friend-zoned is to demonize girls. Could you elaborate?
I didn't say it's to demonize just girls specifically. I wrote this article referring to guys so I said guys who talk about being friendzoned use it to demonize girls. If I wrote this article about girls who say they've been friendzoned, I would have said they use it to demonize guys.
Why would a, maybe satirical, but mostly descriptive term demonize anything?
What are you trying to get at?
I have an issue with a pretty neutral term demonizing anything.
The term probably came up as a humerous way of dealing with rejection.
You're right. But that's not how it is for a lot of bitter guys out there
These men just haven't realized that there's nothing bad about being friends with women. It doesn't have so much to do with men feeling entitled as it does with offering a convenient way to deflect the issue away from himself.
What about girls who believe in the friendzone?
www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a8465-why-i-friend-zoned-you
I think I said my thoughts on it a million times earlier. But anyway, go on google images and search friendzone. Who do you think made those memes, guys or girls? My point is that it's mostly guys that make this a relevant thing. I was speaking about the majority, which happens to be guys. As for girls who whine about the friendzone, they're just as bad, even though I've never seen or heard of a girl whining about the friendzone as much as guys.
frankly, i dont see whats wrong with calling it the friendzone. It doesn't mean that you feel like you are obligated to get the girl as a gf. It just means that she has put you in her list of friends she wouldn't "do", as what happens in most cases. It's just a word
Except not everyone sees it like that. Like that guy Elliot Rodger; that's an extreme case but it shows that people like that exist. It's fine if you just say "oh haha I got friendzoned but you're a good friend so whatever." But there are guys out there that actually take it seriously and become bitter and feel like the girl owes them something.
Elliot wasn't friendzoned. He had no friends.
Totally agree with your opinion. Like omg guys need to shut up about the friend zone. It's not a thing!
As the Lord of the Friendzone,
There is nothing wrong with being a girls friend, friends are hard to come by. When a girl you obviously like is saying your a friend and then leads you on to think there maybe something more that is wrong. If a girl your friends with just wants to be friends accept it an move on as best as you can. The friendzone rejection is one of the most hard rejections to move on from but you can do it.
"sexist" or not, women will lead men on when it is pretty blatant that man wants more than a "friendly" relationship.
You would have to be socially retarded to think that a guy who constantly does favors for you and tells you other guys are jerks to think he isn't interested.
It is painful to be in a situation where you are a naive guy and think that being the nice guy is going to work.
Leave them alone or let them know that you aren't attracted to them.
Anything else is just cruel.
If a woman rejects a man, the man can't be friends with the woman anymore, in my opinion, because he already knows she doesn't like him, and that feels bad. Maybe there are expections, but i think it's rare.
Cool, i think the friendzone is real, BUT i don't see a girl in any negative light for friend zoning a guy
When a guy decides to live in the friendzone, after being rejected, i just feel this is a damn shame smh 😒
You mean you personally don't look at those girls in a negative light or you don't see "friendzoned" guys looking at girls in a negative light?
I personally don't,
Girls don't just like you, oh well
But idky tf u would be so stuck on her after she said no, if u actually wanted to stay friends... ok, otherwise leave her
Yeah it's kinda pathetic
what Lisa did wrong was lead this guy on while using him for personal gain. she may not be interested in him, but she's definitely interested in a free lunch on his dime. it's not even a real friendship. If Lisa hasn't made it clear that she's not interested in that sort of relationship because she likes that he's buying her stuff, she's basically being a gold digging (insert sex trade related expletive). using people is NOT friendship.
I CLEARLY stated that the guy buys her things to win her over. If you're dumb enough to try to buy someone's love, you deserve what's coming to you. If you don't clearly state your interest in her and you're buying her gifts, it could just look like you're eager to spend money on a friend. You're 22 and thinking like this. That's amazing.
The guy is the one offering lunch, i don't think she is asking for it.
You are correct. She was using him for her gain, he was foolish enough to keep buying her stuff. Clearly if he keeps buying her stuff then he is (weak) trying to buy her affection, and she knows this, so she uses him so she can get free stuff. Gold digger.
Okay, so this is really weird, but I've developed a crush on the blonde girl in the photo for this take. And I can't even see her face. I just really like her shoulders.
Sometimes you just gotta rub some shoulders.
A lot of women flirt with their male friends making them confused. They shouldn't flirt with their male friends if they view them as just a friend.
Amen.
Hell yes. So true.
guys and girls both get friendzoned. It is just a term
Okay? Did I say girls don't get friendzoned?
Most men don't see it that way, as in that women owe them relationships for being nice. We aren't retards, we know that it's not about her and that she's done nothing wrong. "Friend zone" is just a simpler term for unrequited feelings, you're just parroting what thick cunt feminists parrot over and over again, making exaggerations and making it out to be something it isn't. I can't believe people comment on these writings over and over again as if you've written anything original.
You're just adding to the comments lmaooooo
I meant the comments telling you what a great article it is.
You still went out of your way to click on this to read and write a paragraph though. And differing opinions are a fact of life, you should know that by now.
Yeah, thinking that maybe you had your own opinion on the matter rather than regurgitating the same crap we've already heard over and over. I am disappoint.
Apparently I'm wrong to be attracted to a friend (usually girls I don't even become attracted to until a while after getting to know them) and even more wrong for getting upset about getting rejected.
What a baby. That's not at all what I said but there's no point in explaining it to someone who took it like that anyway. Have a good day.
Fortunately for me, I don't have any females friends because I'm aware of the friend zone and I take my ball and go home