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Why don't guys want to get married and have kids or even be in serious relationships anymore 😡😢😩? (Page 2)
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It's hard to find women worth settling for
They're all early 20s.
Not really. I know tons of men in their late 30s that still don't want to get married.
@AhGojira do they have lots of debt / money issues?
Nope, they generally work in software development/IT. Most of them are home owners and have pretty stable income...
@AhGojira Doesn't mean there's no debt, people even get debt on their cellphones now.
They aren't in debt. They're friends of mine or of my brothers. For example one of them works at Amazon. He got hired at $140K a year with a $100K signing bonus. He gets tons of benefits and is saving tons of money. He has a lot of disposable income. He has a girlfriend, but he never wants to get married. Sorry, you're barking up the wrong tree. They are successful men with their life in order and have no problem getting girls. The men aren't the problem, it's the women.
im 30 good job and what not. i won't entertain the idea of marriage with modern women.
@AhGojira he's very lucky then. Where I live no one makes 100k, even engineers. But I have people in my family who had high incomes and they loved the idea of marriage lol So it depends... Apparently, these days it's more common for women to be making higher wages anyway.
Lucky? Eh, he does alright. Amazon is very competitive at grabbing top talent, but they work you like a slave and rarely invest in creature comforts or new computers... Bezos is a shrewd businessman and will spend money on talent, but not much else... :D Money isn't everything in the deal... Anyway mechanical and electrical and engineers here tend to start out around 70-80K, chemical and biomedical engineers get around 90K to start. Software developers can sign on around 90K if they are talented at a larger company. After you're a senior software developer (3-5 years depending on the company) you're looking at 120-130K. If you have an interdisciplinary skill set and a graduate degree for example in statistics/economics and write trading algorithms or in molecular biology/pharmacology and write algorithms for drug discovery pipelines then you get get up to about 250K with about 5 years proven experience. It all depends on how much responsibility you want and how much of your life you
want to trade for money...
@AhGojira I'm not an engineer or software developer, but where I live I've heard of them having to do temp/part time jobs, and not making even half of what your friends do.
Well, smart people move to metropolitan areas where their skills are in demand. There are a hand full of locations around the country with high populations of STEM related companies that compete for talent.
@AhGojira even in san fransico stem people are working temp jobs. its not how it used to be man Obama fucked up the economy.
@dudeman It's fine for me and the people I know... Most of them are in south Florida or Seattle at the moment. I've read that there is a decline in California overall and an upswing in the triangle in NC. So it really comes down to location... So adapt and move if you need to. If you're not tied down with a wife and kids it's not hard to pick up and move to better opportunities. I know a mechanical engineer that had to move to Alabama, but he's still on par with the salaries I'm talking about.
@AhGojira I'm doing fine at the moment simply because my work is location and time dependent as well as having strict DOT standards
@AhGojira I don't know man I feel that you're simplifying it. these kids coming out of college lack the funds to do anything let alone move with no job lined up.
@dudeman My little brother and a number of his friends landed jobs either directly out of college or withing a few months of direct application to large companies in the past year or so. They are all computer scientists, computer engineers, and mechanical engineers though. The difference between them and most college kids is that they actually know what they are talking about... :D They can talk the talk, pass the coding interviews, and walk the walk on the job. There are a lot of people that float through school and take no initiative to learn outside of school so they fail miserably on technical interviews even with a masters degree... At the end of the day you have to know what you're talking about, not just get a degree.
@AhGojira again like you said its the area. California is shit for work. I got lucky but if I'm going to settle down its going to be in texas.
@dudeman Yep. The local economy and location of specific companies does have an impact. But it tends to work out with the very talented people coming on with high pay, and then tons of other positions being filled by H1B tech slaves from India or China that are scared to do or say anything that will rock the boat or they will be deported.
@AhGojira I think a big part of success is luck. just from my observation. of course you have to put the effort in but that's not always recognized. especially today where human resources is filled with women who have too much power in the company.
@dudeman Well software development is mostly dominated by men. You're usually interviewed in a number of ways by various team members and sure, there is some luck involved in the interview process. People on your perspective team can dislike you for the dumbest reasons at times. Human resources rarely has the say on if you get hired in those positions, but they do negotiate your salary and benefits. It ultimately depends on how much your perspective boss wants you though. If he wants you he'll tell HR to make sure they get you on board. If they could take you or leave you, they'll negotiate more aggressively.
Can you guys message each other about this pls? @dudeman too
Cause US is socially backward country.
Maybe you're not work the headache?
I want a relationship, and to settle down...
What's in it for men?
What is in it for men?
A 50 per cent probability of destruction by a divorce court; becoming the woman's impoverished slave for life, via child and spousal support orders; and the rest of his life in the modern version of debtor's prison, if he is unable to pay.
A man would have to be certifably insane to want to form a relationship with a woman.
What's in it for me?
Not all guys