You know, been scrolling both guys' and girls' comments, both sides hold some validity generally speaking. But I think there's a more endemic issue rooted within a lot of the shitty sides to the behaviors of both genders. The men broadly speaking moan about the effects of feminism and modern cultural standards generally, how women play immature games and expect men to read their minds... And so on and so forth. As a man myself, I can attest at both a practical and intellectual level that their is definitely truth in this.
From what I've seen on here as well as experienced in real life, what the women seem to see/feel (and hate) the most, is that men are generally speaking, quite emotionally shutoff and/or simultaneously too overbearing; too insecure in their own sense of masculinity (cultural emasculation of men: whole 'nother topic) - they get easily threatened by other guys and question, unnecessarily the integrity of the otherwise ernest chick (generally, we also can't deny the cheaters on both sides). That they also act like the bees knees in bed when they're "flops". And so on and so forth...
I personally try to understand both genders as much as is possible for me to do so, I do hear what both sides are saying, both hold some truth. But what I see as more underlying, is that neither gender in this day and age, deserves the title of man or woman, again generally speaking. Both sides suffer both sides' vulgar egos given the fact that women are brought up in a society that pedestals them, men are brought up to be emasculated cuckolds. When both of these ills pair up, we see the equation (discontent, as outlined in the comments) come to fruition.
I'll stress yet again, that I can only speak generally, I don't know all 7 billion of us haha, I could succumb to the old cliche of "good and bad" but I won't.
Some of my own views are that women are:
Often narcissistic.
Lacking in logical control of impulse-driving emotions.
Do indeed sometimes use emotional manipulation to get what they want - under the guise/misunderstanding that its "cute" flirtation - when its just seen mostly as childlike
Complain of lack of emotional intimacy from men, but often times reject/belittle the significance of his feelings - they can barely deal with their own let alone take on someone elses - again childlike in its impotence.
And so on... I do believe men need to lead, women never will be as rational as us, but women need to improve themselves too, as do men.
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I have an easier time pin-pointing things I like about women then finding things that are irritating..
I'm sure the things I find irritating are the same thing a woman finds irritating with me.
So here are mutual things that couples have done to each other,,
1. Not paying attention to what the other is saying,
2. Not understanding the circumstances to why we made a decision.
3. Jumping to conclusions
4 Not always having the same priorities.
5. Different parenting techniques, when they should be the same.
Well I'm a female! The 5 things I don't like about guys is that they...
1. They think they are superior to females because they are a guy and they are more stronger than us!
2. They put females in the "I wanna screw you and not get to know you zone" but they get offended when females throw them in the friendzone!!! Those bastards demand respect, although they give very little respect.
3. They spend so much time bitching about gender equality because they are jealous of females. Women rights are more important than guy rights because girls are more delicate than boys... We get all the sympathy, all the attention, and all the praise!!!
4. They don't seem to care what women have to go through! They trivialize our problems and make fun of it but as soon as we cut down their issues; they wanna throw fits like a little spoiled brat.
5. They call themselves a man and they want to he treated like a man but they are weak and sensitive like females. When things go wrong or when things don't go their way; they tend to throw tantrums and blow up...
1) When they complain about bras, makeup, and stuff like that, but then complain that women are ugly without it or say they "aren't put together enough." Make up your mind. Pick one.
2) Thinking that because something isn't important to them, means it shouldn't be important to us. This isn't all men but how many men do you know who trivialize your anniversary or the stupid shit you like to do just because they don't think it's important? Lol.
3) Never planning ANYTHING. Maybe it's just the men I've been with but literally every guy I've been with just expects me to plan everything or just does everything on an insecure whim.
4) Bitching that we're insecure then they turn around and get insecure as fuck about stupid things, like that you're in the same room with a guy for some mundane situation and he loses his mind. Luckily my man doesn't do this but I've seen it.
5) Complaining that they want more sex but in bed they're a sex flop. Again, doesn't happen to me but happens to TOO MANY women I know.
1. Puts to much importance on sex and not enough importance on love or understanding a woman
2. Assuming you're a feminist if you don't agree with them on certain topic: Ex. Who should pay for dates.
3. Settling cause they think they can't get the super attractive Stephanie girl upstairs so they go for the below average Becky girl a few doors down the hallway. Meh is better than nothing.
4. Stop getting into relationships if you're now serious for a committed relationship, there's nothing bad about just staying single.
5. It's a "preference" when they reject a woman, but a woman preferences are invalid thus she's a shallow bitch.
1.) I feel like men are mostly just thinking about sex in a relationship unless they're sooo deeply in love but for girls it's way more than that
2.) rudeness and being mean
3.) most but not all are egotistic and assume they are a great catch
4.) they either care tooo much about the way they look or not give a shit altogether
5.) they think girls will fall in love with just one stare or a lie like there is this guy I know that literally said " I'm gonna stare into her eyes with my green eyes and tell her I'm sorry for fucking up and flowers and that should do it" NO just NO we aren't that stupid you know?
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These observations apply to many but not all women:
1. They are consistently behind schedule for getting ready to go to an event.
2. In bed, they don't communicate what they want and they don't vocalize to let us know when what we are doing is turning them on.
3. We are supposed to read their mind and know what they want. They can't simply tell us.
4. They will ALWAYS make their adult children or their grandchildren a higher priority than their partner.
5. They refuse to acknowledge that having sex is a wonderful way to resolve an argument! :) :) :) I know this doesn't apply to every woman. So this is a list of turn offs.
1.) Misandrist
2.) self entitled
3.) Not visual when it comes to physical attraction
4.) Rude
5.) Cares more about offspring than her boyfriend/husbandOnly applies to those it applies to, but in my experience (in no particular order)...
1) Holy fuck, texting is bad enough, but APPLYING MAKEUP WHILE DRIVING? Kindly GTFOH😒😒😒
2) Basing behavior and decisions on emotions rather than the proper basic, raw logic and rational thought. How we "feel" about things is irrelevant to natural reality. Not saying it doesn't have its effect, but those effects are at a personal level, and no personal issue supersedes the order of nature.
3) Many women seem very concerned with what other people are doing. If there's one thing I have a problem with in life, it's people judging or commenting or feeling any type of way about anything I do or say. You do you, I'll do me, and above all else, MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.
4) While I'm on board fully with gender equality, you CANNOT pick and choose which things you want changed while simultaneously asking for traditional "special" treatment where it suits you and makes your life comfortable. I'm not a woman, I don't care which things you want changed or not changed, that you gals' call. But to be taken seriously, you have to be reasonable.
5) This is maybe my #1 if I had to call one... So I'm in the "you don't hit women under anything but life-threatening circumstances. You just don't do it." camp. I'll never move off that position. HOWEVER... Ladies... work with us. When I'm arguing with another guy, we each have a line we're not going to allow the other to cross, we both know it, and we know that we're going to give/receive at least a punch in the face if that line is crossed, so we watch what we say or accept/deliver physical consequences. I believe fully in that, I make no apologies for getting violent, because it wasn't for nothing. The problem is, with women, many of them don't respect that line. They will cross it time and again and laugh in your face while doing it. The greatest rages I've ever been driven to, and there's been a lot of other contenders, have been instances like this, a woman basically taunting you because she knows she can do pretty much anything and remain unharmed. That's so unbelievably fucked up I'm at a loss for what else to say about it. I have literally knocked myself unconscious head butting a door jamb in that situation, because I need to hit SOMETHING, and even in blind blackout rage, I apparently don't have it in me to hit a woman, although that is not at all a conscious decision, my lucidity is no longer there at that point.It feels weird to put every girl in the same basket, but I will say what I think concern both sex in different ways.
1. Emotions
Mens have a tendency to shut down emotions, and I think it leads to a lot of lies that are often seen as "dishonest", when it is a defense mechanism for someone suffering from a lack of self-understanding. When mens show emotions, it tends to be seen as not mature, but again it is because they lack self-understanding.
Womens can feel more open to expressing emotions, but sometimes abuse that unconsciously. Expressing every emotions is showing that there is understanding of the emotion, but that shouldn't give the right to not try and calm thoses emotions. I think mens control too much by lack of understanding. And womens control not enough because some think understanding is enough.
Again, this doesn't apply to everyone, but I think emotions are not well understood between mens and womens. Most mens actually are scared to open themselves, and womens too, but they hide all that in different ways.1.) Often lack of logic, rationality and/or judgement in their actions and/or words, which justifiably gave birth to a term "women logic".
2.) Double-standards and self-entitlement -- depends on how much a woman has been exposed to a brain cancer called "feminism". Typically exhibits itself in situations where a woman is all about "equality" and shit (such as being present in a nice office), but as soon as this "equality" provides disadvantages (such as conscription), additional work (overtime, doing things that aren't covered by contract, but need to be done anyway), hard labor (construction, cleaning sewers etc.) and other unpleasant things (fair competition), a woman turns into an extremely self-entitled hypocrite.
3.) Can't tell directly just what the fuck is wrong: every man has heard an answer "nothing" to a simple question "what's wrong", where conversation quickly escalates into a game of a minesweeper.
4.) Occasional desire to create drama for no reason.
5.) Overthinking and overanalyzing.This doesn't apply to all females. My wife, for example, is only guilty of #1. Enjoy!
#1 Too. Many. Damn. Feelings. Crying over things and choosing to feel every event from little to large as if it's YOUR problem. Stop it! The world is hard and full of sucky people. Learn to control your emotional response, rather than letting your emotions control you. This is the difference between an adult and a child, not a man and woman.
#2 Whining about the toilet seat. You have hands and eyes. Look where you're dropping your big butt, and use your hands to correct the situation BEFORE you sit down.
#3 "Anything you can do, I can do better!" See #2, and then arm wrestle me for the last beer.
#4 Claiming sexism in everything. I heard a young lady claim that calling women "hot" is sexist. The irony was that she was reading a teen fem magazine that featured the "10 Hottest Guys in Music" on the cover. Jesus...
#5 Patriarchy. It is not holding you down. It is holding MEN down. Take a look at actual facts before joining the third wave.
I like men in general. I can only say what I don't like in my ex and a few my friends partners. Defo can't say that this is about every men.
Want to be in a relationship but they don't want to make effort or commitment.
Want stay at home and play video games but they don't want you to go out, then complaining we spend too much time together.
Not looking for a partnership looking for a new mum that will wash, cook, clean and serve.
Expect from you to look like model but they not shaving for weeks and wearing the same t-shirt all week.1. Acting all macho around their friends.
2. Can't think of losing against a woman in any way - "U hit like a girl"
3. Too proud to have emotions, or admit loving someone - "She's the one stalking me, I'm just being friendly, to not make a woman sad"
4. feelings... ughh disgusting, "I don't like her, why hasn't she texted me?"
5. "I can fix that for u" - no, I can take care of myself thank u!
I've literally heard everything in the quatation marks from my brother, guy friend, ex boyfriends... I just hate the fucking pride, the "I am better than you"-pride.1) Women think men are mind readers. The whole "he should know why I am acting like a complete bitch" thing. Sorry ladies, we have no clue most of the time.
2) women blame being super cunts on their periods like that is a real excuse
3) Not saying what the issue is. I guess you could lump this in with 1 but saying "Nothing" is wrong when it clearly is.
Honestly almost all my issues are that women don't communicate properly. Yes, there are exceptions to every rule.
4) women are scared of commitment when most guys want it. But somehow society blames men for that issue... complete bullshit
5) that sex is so easy for women. You have zero stress. You can have it anytime you want, as long as you want, as many times as you want, at the drop of a hat. All the stress is on the guy, and sometimes we physically cannot do it, esp when we get older.1. Why can't you just say the true feelings? Like wth you think I will hate you? Just say how you feel! Doh be playing this I am a man. I don't have feelings but
2. Why play games bruh?😤
3. Why not just say the truth? When I ask for it I want it. No matter how harsh like geez😑
4. Guys, just like you can't read girls mind, we can't neither so just say what is wrong at times!
5. Why say you want one girl but entertain others? Like bruh we know there is plenty fishes in the sea buh you can't get one like meI'm not sure about 5, but here's 1:
The inability to answer a direct question. I used to think it was just my wife, but no. My daughter is exactly the same. Example:
Me: What time do we need to leave?
Her: Dinner is at 6:30.
Me: What time do we need to leave?
Her: Well it takes 20 minutes to get there, but I need to stop by the store on the way.
Me: What time do we need to leave?
Her: Oh, I forgot. They're doing road construction on the bridge so we need to leave earlier.
Me: What time do we need to leave?
Her: Well I need to get a birthday card and gift. And remind me toget cat food.
Me: WHAT TIME DO WE NEED TO LEAVE?
Her (now angry): You never wanted to go anyway! Just stay here and I'll go by myself!1. Never putting clothes in the hamper. They are always in random places or even on the floor next to the hamper. How hard is it to put it in the freaking dirty clothes hamper?
2. Getting water outside of the shower and NOT cleaning it up.
3. Doing everything the LAZY way.
4. Wanting to play video games all day
5. burping
6. uncontrollable farting.
6.1Farting for fun.
6.2Farting to show dominance... I don't know how that shows dominance but my husband makes that excuse daily.
6.3 farting wars amongst other male specimens.
7. eating everything like a monster
8. Half-assing everything that is not gaming
9. disgusting jokes
yes... I'm referring to my husband.
Surprisingly he doesn't leave the seat up because out of all of these incredibly annoying things... he sits to pee.
I could write a list that goes forever but I also love him to death so we compromise and I deal with a lot of it.1. Complaining about not being able to find a good man while also looking for tattooed bad boys. Not a whole lot of overlap there. AKA choosing beggers.
2. "Sassy" behavior. Arrogance and entitlement, especially from overweight women.
3. Complaining about politics or general 3rd wave feminist nonsense.
4. Obsession with food. Posting shit on Facebook with fried chicken pizza or whatever else heart attack Tasty is pushing.
5. Acting like sex shouldn't matter to a relationship or that sex is a gift from women to men.1) not understanding simple clues or situations and making things awkward
2) taking rejection way too hard and calling women a bitch etc.
3) ignoring me for ages, then wonder why I'm ignoring them back 🤔
4) treating all women based of their worth. Their worth being how attractive they are
5) thinking they can put their hands on you when they're not invited.1. They feel threatened or awkward at the drop of a hat & are afraid to talk about that wirh you if you're the subject of that insecurity.
2. They are timid in public speaking & had to be mostly coaxed into talking during college classes that required classrom socratic participation
3. They use cosmetic surgery to 'fix' what often is not broken
4. They use makeup as a crutch sometimes
5. Many of them find female on male domestic violence hilarious or justified. There was a segmemt on this womens show called the talk where they discussed a woman cutting off and shredding her husbands penis in a garbage disposal, & Sharon Osbourne said it was 'just wonderful' to the laughter of the crowdLies
Manipulation
Defiance to accept that she is wrong and most of the time causing problems by making a fuss over nothing.
Thinking women are giving simple hints but they're not e. g. apparently if you text a blue heart to a girl it means your friend zoning them? How are we supposed to know that maybe I just like the colour blue?
The fact women get treated like queens in our species compared to others and take it for granted. Fact is we own the house and have the salary and share it yet were supposed to ask them to share that? And even so we get treated like their the ones doing us a favour and were even paying for their dinner date. I don't think so.
If you look at how other girls are treated in other species they get raped pretty much left pregnant to survive being hunted left to get her own food raise her own kids etc. Do we do that? Nope we give them dinner before sex we stay and get them food when pregnant and cook it we even give them our habitat.Complaints about what each sex has to go through. Or entitlement about what each sex should get. It has caused riffs in the sexes and a sense of spoiled behavior that now our children are growing up to accept. Fuck start being human and quit pouting because something is different because our sexes are different. I think if there was more talk, understanding and praise for our differences, and less complaints and/or belly aching about them, we would have better solutions and mutual care for one another's problems.
My biggest thing is 1.) Hygiene. (I have a weak stomach and when a man isn't hygienic, the smell is enough to make me run.)
2.) Wandering eyes (I know this is just part of being a man but sometimes us women get really insecure when our men are looking at big booty Judy, even if it's just for 10 seconds.)
3.) Bragging about sexual
experience.
4.) Assuming all women are radical feminists.
5.) Expecting us to be maids, cooks, pornstars and nurses all at once. (One at a time please.)1) Some men don't speak up about their feelings
2) Why do fuckbois exist? I don't even want any near me
3) To men who're obssessed about finding girls who're good cooks/bakers: Shouldn't you be more concerned about a girl's personality, interets, etc? I personally hate cooking. Does that make me unqualified to be a woman?
4) Can't think of any more...
5) I guess that's a good thing. 😅From my experiences:
1. When they laugh at you because you have your period. I know we, women, can be quite mean and offensive but if it really hurts, it's very hard to stay "happy".
2. Ignoring me, then coming back to whine about their gfs.
3. Expecting me to be so nice to them as they think they are nice to me. By that I mean when a guy I barely know, tells me "I miss you" and expects me to say the same. Like wtf
But nobody's perfect and we should cope with that.
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