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It's coz men see them as a sexual object.. I mean they're really for a baby to feed on
Exactly my point. !!
It's something divine. Why is it so sexualised. Would you actually be happy it was equalised was considered no more a taboo?
Yes I would
A guys hands on my waist is more sensual to me than on my chest
I mean, would you be happy or comfortable to actually go out braless or topless and feel free like the men.
And yes I know. i beleive a lot of women feel that way regarding the waist and the chest. My country is more weirder when it comes to the hips and bellybutton.. so I think Ur point is very much valid.
Which country you from?
by the way I can never never go without a bra.. Id die! It's feels so uneasy
Whaaat!!
You are probably the first women who actually voted for a bra! This is interesting. Finally I can get the second perspective too!
100% man
Why do you say that? What have you such a bad experience that you opted to jail your pups?
If they're soft and not firm you would want to feel support
Hah! Correct me if am wrong. Women with smaller ones like to go free and wouldn't make much of a difference and the ones with larger ones though they hate it need to wear just to keep them in place , but yet it suffocates them.
It depends really lol
And now with your soft and firm thing. You just opened up a whole new dimension. I would love to know how it fits into my collected data.
I gota go so sorry.. Later
Sure.
They are also sexual. Just because they serve another purpose, does not negate that fact and it never will.
Then we should see men's nipples as a sexual object too π
@cleopetra
That's the one thing we have you wanna take that way from us. Lol.
Hehehe
Men do not have vaginal contractions and stimulation from nipple stimulation the way women do. False equivalent.
In fact it's part of the reason mothers are recommended to breastfeed, because it helps re-tighten the vagina after giving birth... Even when it's just a baby nursing there is vaginal stimulation happening. We are just wired that way, dear. Learn about your body.
Thank god you are just the cleopetra for the namesake. If you were a ruler, I dare say the tables would have been turned lol !
Yes so I feel sorry for the mothers who choose to not breastfeed from day 1
No more comments from me thank uuuu
@more2life Somebody give this young woman a doctor's degree already!
Sorry if you were put in a bad corner to a question I had invited you to. Apologies on behalf of other people. :)
Because womenβs bodies have been sexualized for ages
And would u be ok if it changed? Would be comfy with being topless in a society that accepts it.
Sure. I have.
You have.. as in.. you have already been to such a society and been topless? How did it feel when you did the first time?
Just topless sunbathing in Miami and on a cruise ship.
UHwow!
That's a huge step forward. And that was your first time?
I wish woman were allowed to go topless it would be so much easier!!!
Hah wonderful
I wish you had showed up a little earlier. It would have been easier to show proof to the ohter women who said this was a joke.
Sorry... But I seriously like your point of view on the topic!
Thank you. But you aren't even legal age. Why do you think my view is a better one?
Because even if Iβm not of legal age it would still be great if the law changed because outside itβs super freaking hot in the summer, DECENT bras are expensive, breasts arenβt supposed to be sexual theyβre literally for feeding children and theyβre not a sex organ, and it would really be such a step forward in society and I think a lot of people could benefit. The only downside is that some men are perverts and itβs really scary and creepy but if society really would change it wouldnβt be that bad then...
The guys being creeps are just bcoz the sole reason that the breasts are made a taboo or. some kind of restricted stuff. The curiosity makes it worse in their minds. Once let free. It's gonna subtle down.
I think that if and hopefully when the curiosity is not... verbalised (I think thatβs how it should be said like catcalls and that crap) then toplessness and chest equality for men and woman can happen or start to happen.
The cat calls aren't gonna stop that's for sure. No matter how dresses you are how naked you are. The perverts who want a girl to bang are def not gonna stop that. unless they are castrated or educated properly
Unfortunately true...
So like it or not , whatever clothes you wear or go bare that's def gonna happen. But the harassment would def reduce. People aren't gonna stare at the cleavages or boobs anymore or how they shake and jiggle when you walk. or run.
Cuz itβs socially unacceptable and society would say itβs slutty
Would you be ok baring it if it was allowed
One of the rare occasions where society is actually right about something.
@more2life lol you sound pretty aggressive in this topic.
@cosanostrakosa no i wouldn't be fine flashing my boobs/chest out in the public even if it was socially acceptable
@more2life i know, its really gross and just would make girls look bad if they do it
If u don't mind.. can I know you where you are from :)
Just out of sheer curiousity
im from Canada. why?
We don't show our chests because it will make random men happy, why would we do that?
Because society deemed it inappropriate for us to run about with our boobs bouncing in the wind unrestricted by a tight bra.
The way you put it. I have a strong feeling that you hate the restriction to the core and you are waiting for freedom?
I do which is why sometimes I don't wear a bra.
Wow. This is great to know , and have you ever tried being topless or go out that way?
I tend to hear a lot of complaints from the women folk about how irritating bras are and how much of a back ache they can give in to.
Never went out topless, I would always wear baggy t shirts with no bra but yeah.
Bras in general are like prison for your boobies, it's uncomfortable sometimes and restrictive of something that is natural and would be better without. The only plus I can think of is the support bras give, without that our breasts would just sag lower, unless you are blessed with perfect perky breasts.
Baggy Tshirts make sense when you decide to go top commando.
Are all bras that way and why is it that women who are well beyond parental guidance fail to be free when they can. I mean yes I agree that it can be painfuluk irritating and distribing to wear one while sleeping and other things. But why would continue to wear it when you don't like it and what do you mean by sag? Are you serious on that?
Not all bras, no. I'm just one of those people who doesn't like bras for my own reasons, mainly I get hot and sweaty wearing them.
Sagging yes, I'm entirely serious about that. Imagine a spring holding two basketballs slightly above the air from the ground, the basketballs will 'hang' to that spring but will never fully drop entirely because the spring is supporting the basketballs weight. Same with breasts, bras make the looseness of natural breasts practically non-existent, therefore they are suppended in mid air by the bra itself.
That's the best way I can explain it
Totally understandable !! I think I can totally relate too!
Never heard a woman come up with such a dry explaination :)
Well I tried
Because men turn animals then... now the situation is such that women can't even trust women 😂😂😂😂
ROFL ROFL rofl.. women can't trust women.. dude you are lit af! Three strikes already π
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I don't wear bra in winter I wear underwear vest. In the summer it sports bra. I don't wear sports bra to bed. Men think is sexualities but it for feeding the baby is the Brest.
Feminists want to prevent rape but they want to free the nipple. And I hate to say it, but for some awful men, seeing womenβs bare chests constantly in public would cause more rape.
As i said earlier this curiousity invited in a man by making breasts a taboo Is what makes the guys want more see more and understand more and play more. The moment the cat is out of the box. Nobody would care much. It's gonna be there to watch just like normal legs and hands. its not gonna be Much if anything. Just my view.
Breasts have been sexualized, along with the whole female body.
Sexualised yes, but created as a taboo is a big mistake. Once its set free, the curiosity in the men would reduce and a few months or years down the line, they are simply gonna lose the sexual interest in them. That way rapes would reduce, am pretty sure about that. It is the curious mind that makes people do wrong things
but as a woman I wouldn't want my boyfriend or husband to lose sexual interest in me
You really think a man's sexual interest in a woman is only bcoz of breasts? You are completely wrong. If that is the case, many women would def lose their husbands to better-boobed women. Marital sex is completely different. And trust me, a man gets turned on in the weirdest and unexpected ways, and breasts are just one of them ;)
No, Im not only talking about walking around shirtless, if women would start out walking around shirtless someday theyd be completely naked
What makes you say that? And yes that is where the taboo should continue. The male and the female genitals are completely different and that is something that makes the species unique, that is what the sexualisation should be all about, not breasts
But why should we even walk around (half) naked? isn't that just sending us back a couple of thousand years?
Not really, Thousands of years were the year of illiterate men and women, more of superstitious and uncultured savages. We are still savages, but we have many more things to look for too!