Is the #metoo movement out of control? what happened to innocent until proven guilty? (Page 2)

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I'm not going to re explain the entire movement but basically there has been a surge in reporting of sexual harassment / sexual assault related incidents in the last few months and most of it relates to the #metoo movement  but before this movement took off , there were already company policies in place relating to sexual harassment and violence in the workplace or on campus. and if anyone felt they had been victimised there was a legal process to take these claims to.  but now whats often happening is someone makes an allegation online or on social media and the person they accuse is often instantly removed from there current position and put on leave until an investigation is conducted but some are even fired almost as soon as word breaks of an accusation , there business or company just doesn't want to be associated with anything that's bad for business  we seem to be losing one of our fundamental rights , which was anyone is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. for someone to legally be convicted of sexual assault there has to be a legal process , they have a right to an attorney and get a fair trial. its not fair to essentially convict someone of sexual assault through the court of public opinion and ruin there live and career in the process even if they are guilty  everyone has heard of how horrible a person Harvey Weinstein is and maybe he is guilty of things but he has yet to even be charged with a crime and hasn't been convicted in court but in the court of public opinion he is already guilty at this point

samhradh_leannan · Answer

I think in certain ways it is going a little far. That said, an accusation alone doesn’t put someone in jail. Of course false accusations are wrong and damaging, but people are still innocent until proven guilty. That hasn’t changed.

ObliviousJester · Answer

I think harsher penalties need to be put in place for those who make false allegations. Maybe then some innocent people won't have their lives destroyed, and legitimate victims will be validated

PrinceNeo · Answer

I would say considering how much it's talked about they constantly brought up yeah I would say it's getting a bit out of control and I think there should always be an innocent until proven guilty and if that person is guilty they get whatever is coming to them but if that person is innocent I think that those who lied and made Fabrications should suffer for trying to ruin someone

Guanfei · Answer

It's not out of control because it's exactly what it was meant to be. It was launched as a new way to point fingers at men and say they're all perverts and sexist pigs.
From the first day you already had women calling everything sexual assault, from a door held to a simple look.
So, no, it's not out of control. It's just that people misunderstood what it was.

Tushnim · Answer

I know what you mean and agree. Anything that can be misused will be misused. That should have been one of the provisions. As it stands, the whole deal is pretty biased and broken. But that's just my opinion though.

FrostyAce · Answer

I understand what your saying but not all the people doing the metoo movement name who may or may not have done something. In fact some people. dont even explain what happened.

cookiedough303 · Answer

It is way out of control I bet some of the women who are coming out saying this dude fucked me or touched me when I didn't consent to it they probably threw themselves at them and I just feel its just stupid

Peopleschamp · Answer

I don't think some women care whatsoever if a guy is falsely accused, and that's what bothers me. Some, key word SOME women seriously believe that women never lie... also a problem. When it comes to this type of allegations especially, big problem.

QCpress · Answer

I didn't even know what this was until now. If you feel that guys are being targeted when they are innocent then treat those people the same way they treat you.

jacquesvol · Answer

Women out of control, telling about abuse? Patriarchy CAN NOT tolerate that. They must take action at once.

savalisk · Answer

Innocent until proven guilty seems to be well and truly enforced in the justice system. No worries about that.
In public though, I guess the loudest are the ones who dictate how messed up your reputation becomes after the fact.

TheCookieDealer · Answer

It's alright, gives an incentive to transparency. And besides, if someone accuses someone who's innocent, they can get sued back for slander, which would ruin their career. So even for people that call out 'harassers' falsely there's a punishment.

etaerc · Answer

Y dis happens to a woman only. Because they don't stand for other woman.

Some woman don't even have guts to share their pain.

The society in which we are living today is made by men for the sake of men.

Why not woman comes forward and take over the same.

You cannot do this right without a fight.

ScarletAngelic · Answer

Yeah, I think it's unfair... though how does someone prove sexual assault?

Anonymous · Answer

It's out of control but I mean men can get raped too, women can rape women, women can rape men (if the woman is physically stronger/or grabs his dick without permission). <-- Obviously

Yet they should stop yelling out many men are rapists and think more. It's good trying to stop the rape culture but not by accusing innocent men and taking it too far.

Anonymous · Answer

It isn't out of control as long as the law stays objective, the rest is gossip and it can ruin a person's life but it can't be helped, humans are usually quick on judgement, that is why we have laws.

Butthole1234 · Answer

I agree that everyone is innocent until proven guilty and it sucks that some people are stripping that away/hurting the real victims of sexual abuse.

thinkaloudtolive · Answer

There's a difference between sexual assault, and a man flirting with/hitting on a woman.  The #metoo movement doesn't seem to distinguish between the two.

Adam_INTJ · Answer

This would have been better suited as a MyTake. But after asiz ansari, the movement lost almost all its credibility. It won't be long before it dies out completely. Innocent until proven guilty was broken by truth reached by majority opinion.

geislert · Answer

When something that's unfair to happen for a longer. Of time there's a backlash once it finally starts to resolve itself. It's not fair and should be made so, but neither was what the group that was being wronged.

Leafpool2 · Answer

What happened to thinking women knew what had happened to them?

orangecherry · Answer

Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. and you have to prove it. Thats our system and the only way innocent people don't get their lives ruined.

reixun · Answer

It’s a sociocultural exposé, not necessarily a legal one. We all know about the infamous casting couch.

DodgersGM · Answer

The court of public opinion has ALWAYS been quick to convict. Nothing new here.

silly_pie · Answer

Now girls are exposing rapist hence you think it is getting out of control.

Anonymous · Answer

Yeah report what you want but be positive in what you want because your in reality destroying a man's life when he's reported not only does he equire the name Xbox in prison and get beat up every day of his sentence just about but they useually don't find many partners and end up dying in prison or killing themselves in some sort of way I personally say report all ofem but at the same time be sure you can live with doing that to someone.

ladsin · Answer

MeToo is not supposed to be taken as a legal movement. IT's a social movement so that people can relate to other's who've been assaulted.

britpop · Answer

I think it's getting ridiculous and making people who have really suffered be taken less seriously

hahahmm · Answer

Guys who abuse women are getting frantic and scared it will affect them.

Bear41 · Answer

Yes even flirting can be called sexual harassment. I won't even tell a girl she has beautiful eyes or she is a beautiful woman anymore.

Sorphii · Answer

Innocent until guilty no longer matters, the me too movement is idiotic women lying about rape and wanting to jail men without any proof

Maxemeister · Answer

Mmm actually instead the people who were accused before the movement weren't even investigated at all, companies just ignored the problem. Now they ARE investigating.

Anonymous · Answer

Unless a victim immediately goes to police or hospital right after the incident, unfortunately there isn't much evidence that could be given.

Anonymous · Answer

Women who supports this are mostly weak women. That's why they join it to make themselves feel strong. Strong does not mean you have money or career. Strong women means you can stand up for what is really and naturally right. If the women are weak, this hashtag is just proving just that. The hashtag means nothing more than weakness, just like the weak feminists. So my stand is, yes it will get out of control if there are too many weak women

Hal2002 · Answer

The me too movement is so out of control, that women have started to question this movement.

art84 · Answer

I don't think it''s out of control but I believe that there are some people who are just looking to spread lies about other people who have power and see if they can get away with it.

sucklingambitions · Answer

#metoo is an opinion of an experience. The victim of that experience saw it in a bad light, so bad they declared metoo. If the other person meant it or it was legal or illegal has no relevance to #metoo

iamshan · Answer

Remember #metoo is not just for women, its for anyone who's ever been sexually harassed male or female.

freerman · Answer

I don't have an idea because I've tried to tread as a gentleman' towards women. but even saying that I may have acted improper in conduct. everone should deserve a fair shake.

genericname85 · Answer

my answer to #metoo is "get over it, we all are"...

DamienOutwater · Answer

Should put the woman on a lie detector test first unless the guy is from Hollywood cause he most definitely did probably rape a lot of underage girls

zagor · Answer

It's not just sexual harassment. Two members of the Tonight Show staff were recently fired for RECEIVING unsolicited racist emails.

imredheaded · Answer

Is it out of control? No. Are there people trying to take advantage of it? Yes. And shame on those people

Anonymous · Answer

You’re right, they are aleady convicted by public opinion and the media yet hasn’t even been convicted or tried in the courts , as far as I know you’re innocent until proven guilty or did they change that recently?

sc15022 · Answer

No such thing anymore. It's always believe women or you're just as bad as a rapist

JinnRose · Answer

Tough situation. To me it does seem like a witch hunt sometimes, but women need to be defended and supported. I wish we could all treat each other better.

VV3ZZY · Answer

I know. I dont even need to read it. Reality is fluid.

WhoDatGuy · Answer

The problem with humans is we ruin everything that involves money. Which is everything.

Galaxia · Answer

Innocent until proven guilty hasn't existed in the media for a long time.

lalit9 · Answer

i dont think so... at least topic is been addressed... it will spread awareness

Markfish · Answer

We need to start a counter movement, all the men who have had false sexual misconduct allegations against them must speak out with the hashtag #metoo.

Zion666 · Answer

Guys: wouldn't ir be great if every single guy stayed at home on a Saturday night just to see how they would feel with no guys around?

DNB1994 · Answer

I’m happy women are speaking out but NOT all men are sexist and abusive. I’m not.

JesseTheMan · Answer

Yes. Innocent until proven guilty, it just seems like a total witch hunt at this point.

Hippear24 · Answer

If you rather go to the social media rather than the police you have a problem

CT_CD · Answer

Yeah it is. Pretty stupid that a guys whole career can be ruined all because of an accusation

Dremax21 · Answer

Def, out of control. Women should def speak up, but we can't start going back 10+ years with limited or no evidence convicting people.

Anonymous · Answer

In the eyes of feminism, a male is guilty until proven guilty. Feelings = Facts and a woman's word is more important than truth.

Anonymous · Answer

If you are a man accused of doing something to a woman, you are guilty until proven innocent, been that way for a long time.

Anonymous · Answer

I can see the accused being put on leave, but probably shouldn't be fired until being proven guilty.

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