America VS Native Tribes: Justifiable Conquest, Ruthless Genocide, Typical War, Other? (Page 3)

[Waffles731]

Pretty ruthless genocide.

[Anonymous]

It was a genocide, no doubt about it.

[Pineapple_Boy]

Normal Conquest back in those days

[Aynsof]

All of the above?

[SketchForger]

Horrible genocide.

[grega239]

war. no need to overcomplicate it

[name_is_eric]

Justifiable conquest.

[QueenOfWesteros]

How so?

[name_is_eric]

"The right of conquest is the right of a conqueror to territory taken by force of arms. ... Proponents state that this right acknowledges the status quo, and that denial of the right is meaningless unless one is able and willing to use military force to deny it."

In other words, both sides knew the stakes. The natives, in stead of bonding together, decided to stay in their own tribes.

[Ellie-V]

That’s false. The natives brought the foreigners in and gave them food and water and shelter.
The Europeans didn’t agree to their way of life or their belief systems. They took advantage of the natives and turned them into slaves and rape cows.
But of course, the natives ended up dying because of the foreign disease.

[name_is_eric]

"Rape cow" sounds like such a fantasy.

The natives weren't sophisticated or hospitable. Offering the strangers shelter was from caution, fear.
The diseases were unfortunate, but that is part of the cycle of life. If you can't adapt, you perish.
The first Europeans, who landed on the coast, wanted to turn the natives into Christianity. That is not unheard of, it happened in Europe too. So why is it suddenly such a big problem?

[WhitePanther88]

@Ellie-V not true entirely. The original British settlers speak of huge swaths of land once occupied before being empty. Basically between 1616-1619 something called the great dying wiped out millions of native Americans settlers like the puritan thought it was the hand of God but first contact with white men brought epidemics of smallpox, bubonic plague, chickenpox, cholera, the common cold, influenza, diphtheria, malaria, measles, scarlet fever, sexually transmitted diseases, typhoid, typhus, tuberculosis, leptospirosis, yellow fever and pertussis. Pilgrim and Puritan colonists arrived on the New England coast to find empty villages waiting for them to occupy. Anyone of those deadly epidemics had killed many in the old world on their own but imagine the arriving in thd new world all together for the first time.

[Ellie-V]

So what if they weren’t technologically advanced? That doesn’t give someone the right to take over their shit 😂
I may not like a messy room I enter, but that doesn’t mean it’s my place to clean it up for them.

Also, forcing religious beliefs is wrong in every single way. Period.
Maybe the Europeans were on some revenge fantasy plot trying to terrorize the next group of vulnerable people just as it was done to them. It’s wrong.
And the natives never forced their religious beliefs on the Euros. They taught them how to survive and they wanted them to leave the Buffalo alone but that’s as far as it went.

[woooooooo]

It depends on how you look at it

[jacquesvol]

Ruthless Genocide

[AoiKaito]

Genocide

[LuWe22]

colonization

[WhitePanther88]

Yeah its always those pesky Germans

[Anonymous]

Genocide