Not all feminists are toxic. And men know this. But they are simply choosing to ignore this fact because they simply don’t want women having more equality. It threatens the patriarchy that these men desire
@nelly83 Sorry, I'm against Feminism not because I do NOT want women to be equal, but because what they stand for and HOW they are trying to achieve it is why I'm against it...
To be frank most feminist adore men in reality they want to be men actually because they are not feeling secured with their own skin, instead of finding their own individual talents and blooming them they just wanna do whatever a man does its childish and nothing else
Men and women are still not equal in our society especially in terms of workplace and societal expectations from the media. It’s still more difficult to be a woman than a man
It's not easy for as men also but they come over past somethings and accept and move on they don't waste much time in moving on cribbing about what went wrong, well also depends on people
@Aakash_Hangargi I think it’s wrong to assume that all women just want to stay home, beg a man for the things they want. I may want to care for my kids but I also have a sense of adventurousness and ambition and the love of being challenged , which would make me very unhappy spending my stuck at home all day.
@nelly83 i have never thought wrong of women working outside of home it's there right I am not some one to deny it or pressurise someone to stay at home, I would encourage that I would be more happy that you would be doing what you like but women who call themselves feminist some mostly they tend to feed minds of young girls at age of 16, and not having the whole knowledge of what feminism in real terms was they just start hating, also many times women disgrace other women who choose to be housewives it is wrong is just what I am saying, and there should be some gender differences that is why there are two genders and not one everything has a purpose in life. And also women should bring individuality in there talents not just imitate men, if I ask someone why do wanna bd like men they don't have an answer because that's just they know because they wanna prove they are capable of things that men can do what does that prove exactly? Where is your indivudiality to contribute something new rather than to imitate what's already present? Why be like men when you can be way better as women?
@Aakash_Hangargi I am a feminist and I wasn’t raised to be one either. And not all feminists hate men or are sexist. I am for gender equality and I’m in no way in favor of putting women’s interests ahead of men.
I am very nurturing and feminine and caring and with no doubt I know I would be a great mother, but understand that becoming a mom is just ONE OF MY GOALS in life. I have the rest of my other goals that I want to fulfill too.
And why should making a living for one self be considered a mans job? It is basic self survival mechanism that both males and females should have. Are you implying that a woman wouldn’t have any way to survive unless she marries a man , similar to back to the 1800s?
And plus most families cannot survive on one income. Housewiving is a thing of the past that is no longer realistic. Think about all the financial consequences it would have on the children’s life styles if the average family lived in a single income. Housewives are for rich men, not the average joe
@Aakash_Hangargi earning a living should be a basic right and ability that everyone should have regardless male or female. Doing housework is NOT a feminine role. I would not respect or marry a man who doesn’t know how cool, clean or wash dishes. Such a man is handicapped and doesn’t know how to take care of himself.
I wouldn’t want a husband who never wants to help me with housework either. I am not a maid.
@nelly83 why is your clock stuck at thinking I am saying women should be only housewives you just changed the chat thread now makes me wonder of motives anyways i only meant that you don't have to play with idea of that men are holding you back you are free individuals you can do what you want but donot compare because there is no need to just work hard and gain status is just what I am saying, I am gonna give example of some women who don't do much work but wanna get more paid but they will take credit for others work, buy I understand it'd same with men in corporate world but I seen with my own eyes how my teammate used to flirt with guys and made her work easier bossing around not doing shit, but I have lot of respect to thosrd women who do work senciere as ever and most women play the weaker sex card when the issue arises or they screwed up something and try and escape or won't take responsibility and put blame on others now this is a red flag issue with women, they just change sides as they suite, and name a feminist who has acknowledged few men have supported there agenda and helped them to acheive considerable success
@Aakash_Hangargi many men say they hate gold diggers but yet the type of woman who never wants to pay for a man, never wants to work , never had to earn a living for herself is a GOLD DIGGER.
A woman who is fair , raised decently , has a good heat would not marry a man just to survive.
@nelly83 this what feminists do I just stated facts that I saw around me what was happening wrong and you blame me complaining I was just keeping facts how people don't play fair when they have certain advantage. Coming to your point gold diggers are different and monetorially dependent girls are different because some raise family, but gold diggers just go for luxury and behind money of you loose it they find someone else but real women with values won't do that and it has nothing to do with earning. If you want to pay for your date, if you invited is fine with me, but you could always split checks, considering if my partner whose earning would love to pay for my meal I would be proud of her
@Aakash_Hangargi I think you’re just the typical woman hater, anti feminist who thinks that all women are terrible problems except for housewives. You’re just a shitty sexist complainer. Only sexist assholes would say that working a job is mans role or that doing your own laundry is a female role. Why don’t you wake up? Both men and women realistically need to work to pay rent and cook and clean in their own homes. There are NO male or female roles!
I don’t trust assholes who only blame women and not men
@Aakash_Hangargi and the reason why I said that if only gold diggers would marry you if you have absolutely no standards other than looking for her to cook and clean for you is this:
A woman who has never worked hard for her own money is IRRESPONSIBLE and relies on people to pay for her.
A poor woman is much more likely to date a man for money than a woman with decent income. A man with a lot of money should be extra cautious about dating broke women who cannot pay their rent because there is a much bigger chance that she is only chasing you for your wealth.
Most men nowadays are poor and they can not afford housewives. Housewives are for rich guys, not the average joe
@Aakash_Hangargi as a woman with a great career and education, I don’t need to marry a rich man because I have enough money myself. I can pick any guy I want to marry regardless of his income level. Broke women also tend to be less intelligent and less educated.
@nelly83 I am sorry but you just want to say what you have preconceived notions you don't want to answer logically, and you accuse of me being women hater if you could see I have been saying from long time i support working women, never did I say I won't help with household things. And why you compare housewives with gold diggers that's just dumb gold diggers don't do house hold works you know they just enjoy life with money they get however there is no point in discussing with you since you are not open minded person you are just repeating yourself again and again with out anything keeping in mind what I am saying so pls come when you are ready to understand the other person's views so it could be a smart conversation to learn something from
@nelly83 why I need to give up that's most dumb thing you said now 😂😂😂 because I am not arguing I am just keeping my views that's what I am saying you think that we are fighting to suppress you it's not the case I can vouch for myself but not for others and stop degrading women who chose to be house wives you in reality are degrading them why can't you accept if somebody wants to be working home without being forced by someone and it was so disrespect that being a women you called housewives gold diggers I couldn't say anything more but anyways you ate entitled to your opinions have a good life
@Aakash_Hangargi I think that if you want a less inflamed response , you shouldn’t have worried such inflammatory comments. If you’re gonna say nasty things about women, you’re gonna get a bad response.
It's only toxic if you make it that way. Women need a voice you fighting that is where the toxic comes. It's like going to top of a mountain and breathing the fresh air. And you then light up a day. It kills the moment...
Feminism was to be a way for women to be treated better, it has turned into a power struggle. Why should we compete, when both genders have wonder and terrible things about them? KKK was never a good thing. I want a man to treat me like a lady, but one who is capable of doing and saying things for herself.
And then what? We go back to being expected house-wives, no career of our own, and be obedient to our husbands? Should we no longer be allowed to vote? If we work, should we give our income to our husbands, or their brothers should the husband die? There are some good things that came from the movement once upon a time.
Yikes, that sounds like a terrible place to be. haha. No male should have a say in anything a woman does. Perhaps some input in a relationship, but no, we are no one's property. :)
feminism is good, but there is no use for it in wester culture where we have equal rights. Afrika, India, Saudi Arabia etc. those are places where we need it
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Not all feminists are toxic. And men know this. But they are simply choosing to ignore this fact because they simply don’t want women having more equality. It threatens the patriarchy that these men desire
@nelly83 Sorry, I'm against Feminism not because I do NOT want women to be equal, but because what they stand for and HOW they are trying to achieve it is why I'm against it...
To be frank most feminist adore men in reality they want to be men actually because they are not feeling secured with their own skin, instead of finding their own individual talents and blooming them they just wanna do whatever a man does its childish and nothing else
Men and women are still not equal in our society especially in terms of workplace and societal expectations from the media. It’s still more difficult to be a woman than a man
It's not easy for as men also but they come over past somethings and accept and move on they don't waste much time in moving on cribbing about what went wrong, well also depends on people
@Aakash_Hangargi I think it’s wrong to assume that all women just want to stay home, beg a man for the things they want. I may want to care for my kids but I also have a sense of adventurousness and ambition and the love of being challenged , which would make me very unhappy spending my stuck at home all day.
Hope you understand
@nelly83 i have never thought wrong of women working outside of home it's there right I am not some one to deny it or pressurise someone to stay at home, I would encourage that I would be more happy that you would be doing what you like but women who call themselves feminist some mostly they tend to feed minds of young girls at age of 16, and not having the whole knowledge of what feminism in real terms was they just start hating, also many times women disgrace other women who choose to be housewives it is wrong is just what I am saying, and there should be some gender differences that is why there are two genders and not one everything has a purpose in life.
And also women should bring individuality in there talents not just imitate men, if I ask someone why do wanna bd like men they don't have an answer because that's just they know because they wanna prove they are capable of things that men can do what does that prove exactly? Where is your indivudiality to contribute something new rather than to imitate what's already present?
Why be like men when you can be way better as women?
@Aakash_Hangargi I am a feminist and I wasn’t raised to be one either. And not all feminists hate men or are sexist. I am for gender equality and I’m in no way in favor of putting women’s interests ahead of men.
I am very nurturing and feminine and caring and with no doubt I know I would be a great mother, but understand that becoming a mom is just ONE OF MY GOALS in life. I have the rest of my other goals that I want to fulfill too.
And why should making a living for one self be considered a mans job? It is basic self survival mechanism that both males and females should have. Are you implying that a woman wouldn’t have any way to survive unless she marries a man , similar to back to the 1800s?
And plus most families cannot survive on one income. Housewiving is a thing of the past that is no longer realistic. Think about all the financial consequences it would have on the children’s life styles if the average family lived in a single income. Housewives are for rich men, not the average joe
@Aakash_Hangargi earning a living should be a basic right and ability that everyone should have regardless male or female. Doing housework is NOT a feminine role. I would not respect or marry a man who doesn’t know how cool, clean or wash dishes. Such a man is handicapped and doesn’t know how to take care of himself.
I wouldn’t want a husband who never wants to help me with housework either. I am not a maid.
@nelly83 why is your clock stuck at thinking I am saying women should be only housewives you just changed the chat thread now makes me wonder of motives anyways i only meant that you don't have to play with idea of that men are holding you back you are free individuals you can do what you want but donot compare because there is no need to just work hard and gain status is just what I am saying, I am gonna give example of some women who don't do much work but wanna get more paid but they will take credit for others work, buy I understand it'd same with men in corporate world but I seen with my own eyes how my teammate used to flirt with guys and made her work easier bossing around not doing shit, but I have lot of respect to thosrd women who do work senciere as ever and most women play the weaker sex card when the issue arises or they screwed up something and try and escape or won't take responsibility and put blame on others now this is a red flag issue with women, they just change sides as they suite, and name a feminist who has acknowledged few men have supported there agenda and helped them to acheive considerable success
@Aakash_Hangargi many men say they hate gold diggers but yet the type of woman who never wants to pay for a man, never wants to work , never had to earn a living for herself is a GOLD DIGGER.
A woman who is fair , raised decently , has a good heat would not marry a man just to survive.
@Aakash_Hangargi and it seems like you just enjoy complaining about women. I have a lot of things to complain about men too
@nelly83 this what feminists do I just stated facts that I saw around me what was happening wrong and you blame me complaining I was just keeping facts how people don't play fair when they have certain advantage.
Coming to your point gold diggers are different and monetorially dependent girls are different because some raise family, but gold diggers just go for luxury and behind money of you loose it they find someone else but real women with values won't do that and it has nothing to do with earning.
If you want to pay for your date, if you invited is fine with me, but you could always split checks, considering if my partner whose earning would love to pay for my meal I would be proud of her
@Aakash_Hangargi I think you’re just the typical woman hater, anti feminist who thinks that all women are terrible problems except for housewives. You’re just a shitty sexist complainer. Only sexist assholes would say that working a job is mans role or that doing your own laundry is a female role. Why don’t you wake up? Both men and women realistically need to work to pay rent and cook and clean in their own homes. There are NO male or female roles!
I don’t trust assholes who only blame women and not men
@Aakash_Hangargi and the reason why I said that if only gold diggers would marry you if you have absolutely no standards other than looking for her to cook and clean for you is this:
A woman who has never worked hard for her own money is IRRESPONSIBLE and relies on people to pay for her.
A poor woman is much more likely to date a man for money than a woman with decent income. A man with a lot of money should be extra cautious about dating broke women who cannot pay their rent because there is a much bigger chance that she is only chasing you for your wealth.
Most men nowadays are poor and they can not afford housewives. Housewives are for rich guys, not the average joe
@Aakash_Hangargi as a woman with a great career and education, I don’t need to marry a rich man because I have enough money myself. I can pick any guy I want to marry regardless of his income level. Broke women also tend to be less intelligent and less educated.
@nelly83 I am sorry but you just want to say what you have preconceived notions you don't want to answer logically, and you accuse of me being women hater if you could see I have been saying from long time i support working women, never did I say I won't help with household things.
And why you compare housewives with gold diggers that's just dumb gold diggers don't do house hold works you know they just enjoy life with money they get however there is no point in discussing with you since you are not open minded person you are just repeating yourself again and again with out anything keeping in mind what I am saying so pls come when you are ready to understand the other person's views so it could be a smart conversation to learn something from
@Aakash_Hangargi Most women Nowadays do not want to be housewives. Most men can not afford them either. Why don’t you just give up?
@nelly83 why I need to give up that's most dumb thing you said now 😂😂😂 because I am not arguing I am just keeping my views that's what I am saying you think that we are fighting to suppress you it's not the case I can vouch for myself but not for others and stop degrading women who chose to be house wives you in reality are degrading them why can't you accept if somebody wants to be working home without being forced by someone and it was so disrespect that being a women you called housewives gold diggers I couldn't say anything more but anyways you ate entitled to your opinions have a good life
@Aakash_Hangargi I think that if you want a less inflamed response , you shouldn’t have worried such inflammatory comments. If you’re gonna say nasty things about women, you’re gonna get a bad response.
I think just radical Feminism, but I think anything that's radical isn't good for anyone
It's only toxic if you make it that way. Women need a voice you fighting that is where the toxic comes.
It's like going to top of a mountain and breathing the fresh air. And you then light up a day. It kills the moment...
Third and forth wave feminism is about hating men. Period. It is beyond disgusting.
Yes, at least in the modern-day West. Anyone who’s still such an activist in countries with gender equality are only asking for more than they deserve
Feminism is to gender what the KKK is to race.
Feminism = Hate.
Feminism was to be a way for women to be treated better, it has turned into a power struggle. Why should we compete, when both genders have wonder and terrible things about them? KKK was never a good thing. I want a man to treat me like a lady, but one who is capable of doing and saying things for herself.
Feminist was invented by extraterrestrials to cause the human race not to procreate before they come to take on the world.
Do we need women rights in some countries in the world? Yes
Does feminism has a monopoly on womens rights? No
It has grown way past what it once was. Now it's about hating men and special treatment.
Uh, yes. If I had the choice, I would erase all societal changes that feminism had brought forth.
And then what? We go back to being expected house-wives, no career of our own, and be obedient to our husbands? Should we no longer be allowed to vote? If we work, should we give our income to our husbands, or their brothers should the husband die? There are some good things that came from the movement once upon a time.
@CandyCaneZoe Well, yes. We should go back to that.
You can keep the money you earn though, but I agree with everything else 100%.
Yikes, that sounds like a terrible place to be. haha. No male should have a say in anything a woman does. Perhaps some input in a relationship, but no, we are no one's property. :)
@CandyCaneZoe Silence woman. You are no longer allowed to speak or have an opinion of your own.
Ha ha. That only works with ropes or cuffs. ;P
@CandyCaneZoe Bad girl. Now go to my room.
@Ihatesociety00 maybe if it wasn't blocked, Duke... haha
Are you guys seriously sexually flirting in this question? I didn't expect to see that. 😂😂😂
@Jay13496 haha. Kinda wanted to see what the troll was all about. Lol.
@CandyCaneZoe I'm not a troll, I'm genuinely a terrible person.
@Ihatesociety00 You're definitely a troll, I mean your username gives you away.
Feminism is not about equal rights (that's the guise). It's really about fucking men over.
It has convinced me to never get married or even date, that is for sure. Solid soon to be 34 year MGTOW Monk for life.
No, femi-nazism is toxic, feminism is ideal, but unfortunately, lots of people in here are ignorant and can't tell the difference.
Modern feminism, I think is destructive and not helping our society.
feminism is good, but there is no use for it in wester culture where we have equal rights. Afrika, India, Saudi Arabia etc. those are places where we need it
According to Pat Robertson feminism causes hurricanes and 9/11.
Ask this question again when the coronavirus pandemic does what humans with all their stupidity could not.
Equality is needed, not feminism. Those are often in opposition.
There's plenty of Feminists who are toxic, but Feminism itself isn't toxic.
The answer is in the name. It's FEMINism. It's not called equalism is it?