Encourage men to express their emotions. Stop telling them that it's weak to show emotion. Have more organizations that help men specifically. Encourage men to help other men.
It's treated as a joke because people are assholes who don't care about men's health.
I don't think it is treated as a joke but I agree on help being geared toward women and not men. I have looked for help for anxiety. For awhile, everything I found talked to the reader as if they were a female. I remember thinking maybe guys need help too
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Better health system and people who have a better understanding of how to help those suffering from mental health illnesses I remember when I was feeling suicidal I reached out for help and received no help at all so when people say there is help out there sometimes it annoys me because not all the time when you ask for help you get help
The trouble with the mental health system is they put dysfunctional people with other dysfunctional people, so they have little to no contact with normally functioning adult people. Sometimes these folks don't even know what normal is. People need community and we're getting less and less of it in our society.
I always say there's virtually no problem in a man's life that can't be improved by getting strong. I know that sounds like a gym-rat trope, but it's the truth. Other men look at you differently. Women definitely look at you differently. And perhaps most importantly, you look at yourself differently.
I can definitely understand this. In addition to your points, exercise might just be the best way to reduce overall stress levels. Consistently high stress levels are exactly what allow people to fall into a suicidal frame of mind.
Stress is the killer. Stress management is the cure.
There's really nothing about it that doesn't help. Immediate sense of accomplishment? Check. Chemical processes diverted to something useful? Check. Goal oriented planning and action? Check. Sense of short-term accomplishment for being able to do something you couldn't last week? Check. Becoming more attractive to women? Check. (70% of a man's attractiveness is strength, even among women who won't admit they like strong men). Becoming more respected by men? Check. Confidence for being more capable? Check.
Life is easier when you're strong. In almost every way. You learn to see being uncomfortable as a means of progress. The things that are hard to do just become a challenge you'll eventually overcome. Pain and setbacks become a matter of resilience.
When I was skinny and weak, I got no respect and no attention from women. At 5'11", 200lbs and not much fat on me, that's all changed. Getting strong isn't just about getting strong. It changes everything
Normalization is really the only way and structural improvements will follow. As individuals it's important to check on your guy friends, male partner, brothers, etc. Don't wait until an issue is apparent. If you care about anyone, you should be periodically checking on them anyway. Way too many people exclude men in this practice. It's something I've actively tried to be better about through the years.
Focus more on the nuclear family where kids are raised in the house with a mom and dad who respect each other and are positive role models in the child’s life. With consistent discipline and a focus on education that child can grow up with true self esteem and not fall to the pressures society places on them.
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This seems like one of those things that needs to be more on the radar of friends and families than on the radar of "society." I don't think society can intervene in these cases anywhere NEARLY as well as friends and families, so probably best to look for solutions there.
I had a crush in UK once. He never replied. Wonder what happened to him.
About the question, yes truly — men are human too. Do not let any sorta media or society brainwash you into behaving inhumanely.
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Feminism is a cancer and control the media, and society with bullying and silencing... so any and all issues that are real and affect males are silenced and or mocked, ridiculed, etc. Just like your questions and any one else who dare speak about actual issues instead of fabricated feminist bullshit.
Men are disposable in society. No one cares about the issues men face , and the whole "Male Privilege trope", completely shuts down all conversations/thought about the problem , because that very statement removes the notion that men have issues too.
Well its not really our problem , right? Their life and it's their decision. If they think they would be much happier at "other world" you shouldn't say anything. Suicide is not right and you know it, you shouldn't do it. But to judge someone who decide to suicide is not right.
Getting laid by a beautiful woman every day he has a woman to come back to this guy sex he’s got food And those deep soul piercing eyes on somebody to talk to that’s my solution
Oh i agree.. On that same token for some reason getting help is seen as unmanly.. We are supposed to solve everything by our selves.. I of course dont care about that, i started seeing a counselor two years ago.. Not for suicide, for other reasons.. but it was needed.
We are more likely to end up broke, homeless, and alone. After so long struggling for a better life, some days you wake up and wonder if anyone would honestly miss you. If the suffering is worth it, just to stay in a world you hate.
Not really. It's a daily struggle. I feel like I don't have anything to live for, nor would I care if I randomly died tomorrow. In fact I'd be happier not even existing at all.
Fair enough 🤷♀️ it’s your life, your choice. If even you don’t think it’s worth fighting for, make it hard to except other to fight for it right. My life is mine to do what I choose with, I choose to live it for the good of others that keeps me going.
This is the only solution. People who know those people and love those people she talked to those people and get them to go to counseling. No if ands or buts. That it is that person's responsibility to take themselves to counseling and fix themselves. You can lead the horse to the water but you can't make it drink. It truly is sad that people get so wound up with what's in their head and they have no idea how to deal with it and it ends in suicide.
Last time I checked, women can do almost anything men can inlcuding make money and die in wars because we cab join the military to. It's just for jundreds of years, men wouldn;t allow women to do it and we're catching up. That's why there are less and less women having kids and getting married, because they're working. So quit with the victimized bs because you can be victims in a world created by man. I mean, y'all have your men's rights movement and MGTOW. As for suicides, every person is responsible for their own lives.
Nobody cares because its something that won't cause individuals the problem. Ie i dont feel depressed or suicidal so i know its not something id need to worry about. Its like yeah statistically people shoot themselves with guns all the time but im super careful and trained so its very unlikely it would happen to me so what do i care about idiots and their problems?
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Encourage men to express their emotions. Stop telling them that it's weak to show emotion. Have more organizations that help men specifically. Encourage men to help other men.
It's treated as a joke because people are assholes who don't care about men's health.
"Encourage men to express their emotions"
and every time we do, we're disrespected/lose instant respect. Fkkk Outta here.
I don't think it is treated as a joke but I agree on help being geared toward women and not men. I have looked for help for anxiety. For awhile, everything I found talked to the reader as if they were a female. I remember thinking maybe guys need help too
Better health system and people who have a better understanding of how to help those suffering from mental health illnesses I remember when I was feeling suicidal I reached out for help and received no help at all so when people say there is help out there sometimes it annoys me because not all the time when you ask for help you get help
The trouble with the mental health system is they put dysfunctional people with other dysfunctional people, so they have little to no contact with normally functioning adult people. Sometimes these folks don't even know what normal is. People need community and we're getting less and less of it in our society.
I always say there's virtually no problem in a man's life that can't be improved by getting strong. I know that sounds like a gym-rat trope, but it's the truth. Other men look at you differently. Women definitely look at you differently. And perhaps most importantly, you look at yourself differently.
Everything is different when you're stronger.
I can definitely understand this. In addition to your points, exercise might just be the best way to reduce overall stress levels. Consistently high stress levels are exactly what allow people to fall into a suicidal frame of mind.
Stress is the killer. Stress management is the cure.
There's really nothing about it that doesn't help. Immediate sense of accomplishment? Check. Chemical processes diverted to something useful? Check. Goal oriented planning and action? Check. Sense of short-term accomplishment for being able to do something you couldn't last week? Check. Becoming more attractive to women? Check. (70% of a man's attractiveness is strength, even among women who won't admit they like strong men). Becoming more respected by men? Check. Confidence for being more capable? Check.
Life is easier when you're strong. In almost every way. You learn to see being uncomfortable as a means of progress. The things that are hard to do just become a challenge you'll eventually overcome. Pain and setbacks become a matter of resilience.
When I was skinny and weak, I got no respect and no attention from women. At 5'11", 200lbs and not much fat on me, that's all changed. Getting strong isn't just about getting strong. It changes everything
Normalization is really the only way and structural improvements will follow. As individuals it's important to check on your guy friends, male partner, brothers, etc. Don't wait until an issue is apparent. If you care about anyone, you should be periodically checking on them anyway. Way too many people exclude men in this practice. It's something I've actively tried to be better about through the years.
Focus more on the nuclear family where kids are raised in the house with a mom and dad who respect each other and are positive role models in the child’s life. With consistent discipline and a focus on education that child can grow up with true self esteem and not fall to the pressures society places on them.
This seems like one of those things that needs to be more on the radar of friends and families than on the radar of "society." I don't think society can intervene in these cases anywhere NEARLY as well as friends and families, so probably best to look for solutions there.
I had a crush in UK once. He never replied. Wonder what happened to him.
About the question, yes truly — men are human too. Do not let any sorta media or society brainwash you into behaving inhumanely.
Feminism is a cancer and control the media, and society with bullying and silencing... so any and all issues that are real and affect males are silenced and or mocked, ridiculed, etc.
Just like your questions and any one else who dare speak about actual issues instead of fabricated feminist bullshit.
The only thing you can do is taking care of the people around you
I know who gave you down vote 😂
Huh.
Men are disposable in society. No one cares about the issues men face , and the whole "Male Privilege trope", completely shuts down all conversations/thought about the problem , because that very statement removes the notion that men have issues too.
I'd say "Sorry, but the concept of inherent 'privilege' is a mythical construct."
Well its not really our problem , right?
Their life and it's their decision. If they think they would be much happier at "other world" you shouldn't say anything. Suicide is not right and you know it, you shouldn't do it. But to judge someone who decide to suicide is not right.
Getting laid by a beautiful woman every day he has a woman to come back to this guy sex he’s got food And those deep soul piercing eyes on somebody to talk to that’s my solution
Mentally ill men are just as free to go to a psychologist as women, but they don't, because of toxic masculinity that you don't believe in.
They need to go to therapy men don't seek treatment like females
Oh i agree.. On that same token for some reason getting help is seen as unmanly.. We are supposed to solve everything by our selves.. I of course dont care about that, i started seeing a counselor two years ago.. Not for suicide, for other reasons.. but it was needed.
I don’t know why men are more likely to quit. But if the men I’ve known who have done it, it has stemmed from being unable to control others.
We are more likely to end up broke, homeless, and alone. After so long struggling for a better life, some days you wake up and wonder if anyone would honestly miss you. If the suffering is worth it, just to stay in a world you hate.
Yup, women realise that’s a likely hood probably a lot early than men, do tend to be able to come to terms with it easier?
Not really. It's a daily struggle. I feel like I don't have anything to live for, nor would I care if I randomly died tomorrow. In fact I'd be happier not even existing at all.
Fair enough 🤷♀️ it’s your life, your choice. If even you don’t think it’s worth fighting for, make it hard to except other to fight for it right. My life is mine to do what I choose with, I choose to live it for the good of others that keeps me going.
This is the only solution. People who know those people and love those people she talked to those people and get them to go to counseling. No if ands or buts. That it is that person's responsibility to take themselves to counseling and fix themselves. You can lead the horse to the water but you can't make it drink. It truly is sad that people get so wound up with what's in their head and they have no idea how to deal with it and it ends in suicide.
Nobody gives a shit about men, unless we are earning money for women, or dying in wars to protect them.
Last time I checked, women can do almost anything men can inlcuding make money and die in wars because we cab join the military to. It's just for jundreds of years, men wouldn;t allow women to do it and we're catching up. That's why there are less and less women having kids and getting married, because they're working. So quit with the victimized bs because you can be victims in a world created by man. I mean, y'all have your men's rights movement and MGTOW. As for suicides, every person is responsible for their own lives.
@Wheresthebooze Fine. You go die in a useless war.
A war men start.
@Wheresthebooze Yes.
Wow I didn't know that. That really sucks. Mental health is a really huge problem that noone seems to be racing to fix
Nobody cares because its something that won't cause individuals the problem. Ie i dont feel depressed or suicidal so i know its not something id need to worry about. Its like yeah statistically people shoot themselves with guns all the time but im super careful and trained so its very unlikely it would happen to me so what do i care about idiots and their problems?