False. IF a woman falsely accuses a man of rape, she should be punished with the same punishment the man would have recieved if he were guilty. In the Bible, the false accuser owes the defendant four times the penalty the defendant would have owed had he been guilty, and false accusation of a capital crim eis punished by death, which is why the Book of Revelation says "All Liars have their part in the lake of fire."
So God punishes Purjury with eternity in Hell. So rape is supposed to be punished by death and false accusation of rape is supposed to be punished by death.
I assure you that attitude is not shared by all women. The ones that do speak only for themselves. Don’t get me wrong, there are *some* men that I absolutely loathe, but as a Christian woman I’ll be damned if I send those men to jail by false accusations.
I’m all for women sending their rapists to jail IF THEY WERE ACTUALLY RAPED, but if a woman makes a false rape accusation against a man for say rejecting her advances, she deserves to go to jail. The man has a right to fight back
@FatherJack No, she should a life-sentence, since a convicted sex-offender faces serious dangers in prison. Also there are "color-of-law issues" under 18 USC 242, since she is recruiting the government in her crime, thus making her a state actor under Lugar v. Edmundson Oil Co. So she should get a life sentence, if not the death penalty.
Not saying it is, only that its highly likely a real account as plenty of feminist hold these views (as has been evident with the #MeToo movement and other false rape cases like the Depaul lacross team and the Rolling stone magazines covering of the UV rape case and feminists response to it (or actual feminist writings that claim all sex is rape etc. etc.).
It’s not a real account. “Emilly Swaven” doesn’t exist beyond the tweets. The photo she is using can be traced back to an adult milf modeling page from 2015. It’s actually the 2nd photo and account she’s used since the first also reported as stolen, which can be found at @emilyswaven with one L). The newest twitter account links to a Canadian entertainment and meme page on Instagram. I don’t understand why people don’t do the research.
I don't do research on twitter, If I do research I research statistics and scientific papers. It wasn't even relevant as my point was those views are held by MANY other women. If you did research you would understand that.
I wasn’t arguing that it could be a view held by other feminists. That is besides my point that it’s a fake account people are being outraged over, like many others like it.
So your argument is that because a person has repeated the sentiments of other feminists (some of which are mainstream, either prominant feminist writers or journalists) is using a fake account or using the phrase to incite anger, that we should all pretend like the sentiment doesn't exist in a large number of feminists? Seems like an odd hill to die on.
No. You speculated that it’s “highly likely a real account” and I was confirming my original notion that it isn’t a real account, then adding that people should do better research on who is putting these kinds of messages out there on the internet and why.
Sure, okay. Its not a real account fine. Is the anger others have legitimate? Yep. Is my statement that this is a fairly common belief still accurate? Yep. So are we still dealing with a society that tolerates these ideas? Yep. So what precisely has changed? Well you seem to have fixated on this one not being real and thus seem to believe that we can all just move on and pretend its not a thing.
Wherever there is a person who really does believe in the sentiment presented in the tweet, it certainly is deserving of criticism. Men falsely accused of rape definitely shouldn’t just shut up and take the charges. I can’t think of any particular names who actually thinks this way. Not saying there aren’t any, but I don’t know if any. I also think that if this fake tweet exists and is outraging tens of thousands people who believe it was a genuine sentiment, I wonder how many others like it also exist. We aren’t sure.
I actually had a co-worker whom just got off the boat and he was staying at a motel for the night and the police arrested Him because the police believed He watched the description of a man whom raped a woman in the general area. He was released a day or two later when the woman said He wasn't the man so that right there proves a MAN IS ALWAYS GUILTY OF RAPE in the eyes of the law until the woman says no which means if She lies HE is automatically guilty no matter what evidence is brought forth unless it proves beyond a shadow of a doubt to be untrue.
That’s different. They had the wrong guy in custody who matched the description believed by the police. That happens a lot with criminal investigations. He wasn’t charged by the woman given what you said. Nor was he wrongfully convicted.
I personally feel if a woman claims rape and if its latter found out to be untrue then She should serve the exact same prison sentence as a man and when She gets out She should be put on the pedo/rapist list just like a man would. Now as far as I'm concerned their is actually no way to prove it when it happened 5 years previously and I don't give a fuck if a hundred women come forward just like Bill Cosby because they had they all had financial incentive to lie so just say so isn't proof enough for Me.
This tweet is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever seen.
The newer generations today weren't the ones oppressing women back then so why do we all have to be punished? This woman needs to wake up. I hope she's trolling. She's victimizing women and ruining guy's lives with this mentality.
Oh you're a male but you never raped anyone and would never do anything like that in your entire life and you actually care for and respect women like you respect everyone else? DOESN'T MATTER, SHUT UP, TAKE THE CHARGES, AND LET YOUR LIFE GET RUINED, ITS YOUR FAULT.
Guilty by association is retarded, bullshit, and unfair.
I suppose there's something refreshing about a person being willing to stand up and demonstrate a complete lack of self-awareness, historical knowledge, understanding of the basic principles of law, grasp of the evils of bigotry, and simple empathy.
Flies buzz, crickets chirp, feminists whine about nonexistent problems; it's just what they do. It's safer- and saner- to ignore them and move on.
No. He should stand for what he believes. If it's not true he has every right to stand up for himself. He is NOT responsible for the people before him who did something wrong. This woman upsets me. How about she goes to jail for something her grandma did.
That's a weak-ass woman there. I would never respect women who do this sort of thing, it gives a bad name for us. No, the man should sue for defamation. But I do think public pressure is more powerful, like if more women were on the defendant's side and shunning the woman for doing this false accusation. I don't think this is common anyways, like we all have brothers, fathers, husbands, boyfriends, etc. and it would be heartbreaking if one of them was falsely accused.
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Uh false. If someone is accusing you of something you literally didn’t do, then you fight tooth and nail for the truth to come out.
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agreed, i believe the original poster is a troll tbh.. But i have seen this kind of mentality come from mostly young women in the #believeallwomen group and the #metoo group.
I hate seeing this sort of sexist nonsense. I don’t care who you are, nobody deserves to have their lives ruined because someone else lied. It ruins that persons life and adds discredit to actual victims of crimes the one is being accused of. It’s disgusting
Just a heads up, if you see ANYONE claiming to be feminist and saying this, first off they aren’t one and second, tell them I said to shut the fuck up.
It's obviously not true at all. She's an obscure nobody with 2000 followers posting crazy shit. Newsflash, there are a lot of them running around on Twitter saying stupid stuff. Why would you even publicize her and give her air time. People post stuff like this to get a reaction. Don't give them one.
It's not just giving up a few years if freedom. It's being in the sex offender registry. It's making it harder for you to find a job. It's having a criminal record. It's always being suspected for ant sex crime. Accepting the punishment for a false rape allegation is far worse than any oppression a woman has ever experienced in the US.
Wtf no I love my men and I’ll support them through thick and thin. These are the types of crazy women we should protect our fathers, brothers, sons and husbands from ladies. Absolutely ridiculous...
@WilliamY I’ll support him through everything but I’ll also support all men who are subjected to any type of injustice, whether I’m related to them or not.
@WilliamY thank you. I guess they are in that they gave me good values and taught me morals which is why my conscience would never allow me to let injustice happen to anyone and that I would knowingly not raise my voice against it or take action against it. I’d never be able to look at my reflection again if I allowed an innocent life to be ruined.
That is exactly how it should be and rare to find someone with those kind of morals these days. We should protect others and stand up for them like you said. If more people felt the same way this would be a better world 100%.
Wow... whoever wrote that... is a waste of space and food and oxygen and seriously disturbed "new wave " feminist... whatever the fuck they are. Serious issues there!
Of course not. You are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law and if she is filing a false report she should go to jail.
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Oh i agree, but the courts, and lots of women feel like it should be guilty until proven innocent.. Put simply a false accusation can follow you for the rest of your life, cost you jobs, family, home, and freedom.
There is a question of how much assertion is allowed (or necessary) to have sex with a woman.
I would like to think zero, I'd ban it entirely - but there are social settings in which it seems to be expected, and you end up wimp if you are not the least bit coercive. Still trying to figure that out (I wish women would shoot down anyone coercive and arm themselves with tasers at least, so the rest of is non-assholes could treat them well)
Here is a perfect example (this time, from feminists) of the kind of insane babblings that should, instead of being given the dignity of being broadcast, land you in a straitjacket, if not behind prison bars.
No, but if she is half naked wearing thongs and stuff, she is asking for male aggression. If I were a juror , I would punish a guy for sexual assault , but I would not treat it the same as someone that broke into her house and sexually assaulted her. You can bring things on yourself with the way you act or dress. Sorry but it is the truth. If you were a porn star and got raped , I would still punish the rapist , but he would get a lessor sentence than if he raped a nun. That is just how my cookie crumbles.
And oh yah if you're wondering about what you posted, obviously its 1000% wrong to falsely accuse someone of rape, so obviously the man shouldn't just take it
@888thegreat Your very stupid aren’t you. I love when men justify rape by the type of clothes woman wear. Wearing a short skirt doesn’t mean your asking for it, being a porn star doesn’t mean your asking for it. Your part of the problem of stupid men who don’t know how to keep it in their pants
@jelly77 Nope I am right on the money. Women can't have it both ways. You can't say look at all this ass and then not expect guys to come on to you. When you want attention , you might just get more then you can handle. If you want same or more pay, you got to lift the heavy boxes like the guys.
You need a very urgent lesson on consent and boundries. You're literally speaking like a stupid spoiled kid right now, you should be ashamed of yourself.
Your literally just saying “we men are stupid, we can’t keep it in our pants and we don’t know how to control ourselves when we see a hot girl”. Your really making men look bad right now aren’t you
@scarlett774 I keep it in my pants little girl. You nothing about me , other than I am a Conservative , which you hate. Quit being so biased. I know you are the one crying to ADM here about my questions. You must be striking out with men , a little frustrated I see.
I don’t give a shit about your political affiliations. The fact that your justifying rape based on what a woman is wearing is severely fucked up. You need a lesson on respect and self control. Read this carefully. A. Woman. Is. Not. Asking. To. Get. Raped. Because. Of. Her. Clothing. You really need to keep in your pants
@scarlett774 Why do women wear close to nothing? To get a guy's attention, knowing that gets a reaction out of him. Some guys might think you were specifically doing it for him. There is an reaction to every action. Plus you are woman not a man , so you would not understand how guys think.
Reality check woman don’t wear things to please men, they do it for themselves. It’s really sad that some men think woman exits just to please them, I prey for those poor souls. And let me tell you something a real man would NEVER justify rape so I guess you don’t fit that category either
FINALLY YOU SAY SOMETHING WITH COMMON SENSE ... your getting it now dude, yes woman don’t wear thongs and makeup for men, the world doesn’t revolve around men believe it or not
If she's good looking they will. My girlfriend got all her boyfriends without dressing provocatively or wearing makeup. The only thing that was possibly provocative was that she had black bras and panties. Of course you actually had to have her take her clothes off to get that far, and she didn't do that before me.
You said "go out in a long dress and no one will talk to you", kids, men, plenty of women, get raped despite not showing any skin at all, how do you explain that with your logic?
with no make up on @jelly77 if you make yourself plain , no I don't believe so. When interview for a job, do you dress up? Why? If what you are wearing makes no difference.
You didn't, you said shit about dressing for job interviews. And if you're trying to say that this doesn't happen (then clothed women, men, and kids get raped), well, you're a lost cause. There's no point of saying anything any further
In terms of what she is saying women can't claim that the suffering of women in the past is their own. We men are descended from women, and women are descended from men as much as the other way around. Not that descent makes a person more or less culpable.
I was falsely accused by an ex-girlfriend, who was angry that I dumped her for cheating on my. So I provided PROOF that she was lying; but nothing happened to her. Women have been falsely accusing men for just as long; so by that standard, if they get graped, they should just just shut up and take it too, not complain.
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