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+1 yIts a multifaceted issue. First and foremost, most people are selfishly motivated and don’t think past how things affect others. Like masks aren’t so much about self-protection, they’re for communal protection, because of incubation periods, asymptomatic cases, etc. If it’s at all inconvenient, uncomfortable, any extra thought or effort required, people don’t want to do it, or can’t be consistent, or can’t carry it on a long while without fatiguing from this honestly very minor efffort. I think that’s probably the #1 reason. I don’t want to get too political, but one side seems to take this a little more seriously, but even the more compliant side probably has naysayers, and complying parties from the other. At some point I just think some people are selfish and/or don’t think it’ll happen to them, so they aren’t worried for themselves and thus aren’t worried about spreading it to others.
Then... to get totally political, lmao... Trump’s handling and attitude of COVID as it applies to Americans has been... we’ll say “debatable.” But he undeniably has had one of the most loyal followings I’ve ever seen in American politics, so whether you agree or you don’t, when Trump says it’s not as big of a deal as advertised and we should trudge through it, many people take those words as golden and enthusiastically follow that leadership.
That sort of segues into the next part of it... people have seemingly divided into two camps: public health and safety, or economy and preservation of usual way of life. And apparently they can’t co-exist as philosophies, haha. It’s an unfortunate situation, with no real safe and correct answer. Damned if we do, damned if we don’t. Economic concerns I have plenty of sympathy for, I totally get it. Way of life, I’m a little more “c’mon, get it together”, because that’s just asking people to make very possible sacrifices. I know it sucks. I live in a beach town within 5 minutes of like three beaches, I can even be at a beach on Cape Cod in 30 minutes and be home in time for supper anytime I want. I made it to the beach ONCE, like an hour before a summer storm with gale force winds started, because almost nobody was there because of the wind but it was still warm. I missed at least 5 concerts I had tickets for, bucket list shows, some of them. I live for the gym and I also started playing hockey this year... all derailed because of the virus. We’re all hurtin’ for entertainment, but it is what it is. But the better we are about it, the faster we can resume normal life, it’s just about being smart and treading water while the eggheads figure it out.
I actually started going to the gym and the rink again, on measured and assumed risk, but they already had to shut the rinks back down. They opened again yesterday, but cases are spiking like crazy this week and I bet will worsen after the entire country congregating to vote on Tuesday and then Biden supporters dancing in the streets yesterday, and Trump supporters protesting results, and I even watched the Notre Dame student section flood the field and mob the players after beating Clemson last night. People just aren’t taking this seriously, especially younger people. I haven’t been to the gym lately now either, because the kids there are hugging and handshaking, and just carrying on as usual. So I can’t take that risk since others aren’t being careful, unfortunately, because I have my 88 year old dad with me, I just can’t mess around. I tried it, but it’s not what it needs to be for me to feel comfortable right now. So, that’s just kind of indicative of the population’s level of concern for it all.
And lastly, I think there’s an element of people’s psyches just not being able to radically accept this as their current reality. They hate it, I think we naturally seek pleasure and avoid pain on a subconscious level, and their brains must just literally reject it unless they can consciously convince themselves of the reality.01 Reply- +1 y
Oh, forgot an important one... tough guy self-exceptionalist bravado. “I ain’t scared of no damn virus! I’m gonna live my life!” Just what they fail to realize is this isn’t akin to wearing a seatbelt or not and risking your own safety, this driving down the wrong side of the road just because you feel like it. But I think these people are the ones who are very skeptical of the severity of this whole thing, and some even buy into political conspiracy theories about it.
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+1 yBecause it has a 99.9% survival rate. I have a functioning immune system, and the Covid prevention rules are nothing more than security theater.
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Yeah that’s the thing about deaths. They’ll never stop rising. You can’t go negative on deaths. Every death is tragic. We have 440,000 deaths a year from medical mistakes.
Nothing you replied contradicts anything I said - +1 y
What’s easy, in your opinion? Losing your job? Falling into depression? Not being able to see an elderly relative in the nursing home? Seeing children’s education suffer?
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Masks are ineffective. You should be washing hands anyway.
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Really? Like here?
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You don’t click links, lol. That’s hilarious. 99% of medical staff and scientists do NOT say masks are effective. I guess when you don’t click links to read it’s easy to throw bullshit numbers out there.
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I’m not going to settle. Because those same “scientists” and “experts” were telling us to not wear masks back in the spring.
Masks are nothing more than a false sense of security so that impotent government officials can say they’re “doing something”. - +1 y
For that to be true, at the very least 235 million people would have had to have contracted it. Give me a break.
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@Ad_Quid_Orator No, dummy. People have immunity to covid 19 because of their immunity to other coronaviruses. They’re similar enough for many people’s immune systems to shrug it off.
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We've been through this: that study only shows that the virus is less likely to infect cells that have the appropriate antibodies. That doesn't mean that they're immune; in fact if you caught the European strain of COVID-19 you could still get sick with the Asian strain and vice versa.
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@Ad_Quid_Orator Yup. We have been through this. Aside from you being dead wrong It makes your magical vaccine useless.
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No it just means we need a different one for each strain.
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@Ad_Quid_Orator Which isn’t being developed. Oh, and...
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Once you developed the first one and again that doesn't mean that they're going to be immune dipshit.
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@Ad_Quid_Orator lmao. I actually feel bad for you. You’ve bought so far into this sham that you have to defend it despite all logic and common sense.
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And you've fallen so far into the denialist death cult that you just assert you're right when your argument gets debunked.
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@Ad_Quid_Orator You have yet to debunk one thing. Because you can’t handle a logical breakdown of your nonsense.
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Yeah, I did; having antibodies doesn't make you immune.
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@Ad_Quid_Orator It sure does. That’s what antibodies do, dingus.
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For the EXACT same virus dumbass.
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@Ad_Quid_Orator So explain how those who have no previous infection from covid-19 have immunity to it, fucktard.
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They aren't they are just less likely to contract it if exposed. Now you explain how people got infected twice.
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And if you plot the severity of infections from a given disease across a population, you'll see a Gaussian distribution:
With some people having very mild symptoms and others having very severe ones so some people only having mild symptoms doesn't mean that it isn't a dangerous disease. - +1 y
@Ad_Quid_Orator And WHY are they less likely to contract it? Oh yeah, because they have immunity to it.
As far as 2nd infections, they’re still not more than anecdotal. Could be a false positive either time. We know for a fact the PCR tests over-cycle and can detect other coronaviruses. And those reinfections are exceedingly rare (by the CDC’s own admission). - +1 y
And the MAJORITY have mild symptoms. You’re super scared of asymptomatic spreaders, remember? I have to keep reminding you of the statements you make. 81% who do get symptoms have mild to moderate symptoms.
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By mild that just means that they don't have to be hospitalized.
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@Ad_Quid_Orator that also means they have symptoms like a mild cold. More times than not.
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It can but the point is that it can hospitalize enough people to overwhelm our healthcare system if left to spread unchecked.
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@Ad_Quid_Orator no, We’ve not seen that at all.
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For the nth time, we haven't seen that up until now
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because we have curtailed the spread. Had we not locked down and used masks then the healthcare systems would have been overwhelmed a long time ago. How many times does this have to be explained to your dumb ass? - +1 y
@Ad_Quid_Orator lmao. Because you’re doing the equivalent of using a night light to keep monsters away. “see, every night the light is on, we don’t have monsters!!!” You’re speculating with no basis in science. So It can be dismissed outright.
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Except some are starting to become overwhelmed and we can model the spread of the virus based on the growth and recovery rate and find that it would indeed be overwhelming to the health care system:
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And before you say "it's just a model" or use some other BS cop out, we're already seeing hospitals being overwhelmed. - +1 y
I understand that you're not concerned about contracting COVID because you'll recover. What about all the people you unknowingly infect in the two week period before you have symptoms? You're ok with potentially causing someone else's death?
There is no immunity. The COVID antibodies don't last. You can be infected repeatedly by each strain. - +1 y
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Again, no you can make a vaccine for both strains and you wouldn't need to make the second one from scratch; you'd have to tweek the first one.
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Simply because the key is not that covid isn't serious, but that there is an agenda to enslave every human being POSSIBLE. At first, nobody AND I quote-on-quote, "nobody" knows anything about this virus. Whether anybody believes it's made in a lab or not, we know this isn't just about the virus. But the system that they are putting in place to restrict your freedom PERIOD. Here is how we know this isn't about the virus:
1. First they say that no mask wasn't needed at the beginning of this "situation"
2. Then they say we must need a mask.
3. Notice how they already had contactless temperature machines in place. These machines are not normal. It's placed in the middle of your forehead. Why only there? You could just have something to check the entire head. People don't think it's weird? Do you know what they also do with the security and payments now? Cashless system. And your right hand.
4. Multiple businesses, good ones at that are either foreclosed, bankrupt, closing down, and dying. Meaning places like Amazon, Walmart, etc are booming and thriving. Lord and Taylor are going. And bad enough they were already struggling. Friendly's may also shut down. Why only those places when anybody can just go online if possible to fulfill orders? And those people are Billionaires. Nobody is questioning that?
5. You have MILLIONS on unemployment, and 100s of 1000s still trying to get it. YET, you have stimulus checks handed to you. A 2nd one was supposed to come in, yet people are craving more aid and money from who? The Gov and State. Why? To take away your independence and rely on them. Easy control.
6. Most jobs are either unfulfilled because too many people are either sick, dying or nobody wants that job. People who they need to qualify for hire, don't qualify, while those who normally don't qualify may take the spot, and those who want to have those jobs, can't because it's full or overloaded. So they can't take any more people.
7. Many jobs are now offering limited benefits or removing 401K and even medical, dental, and vision. PTO's and vacation times. Those are necessities and yet many are forced into the system.
8. The same PEOPLE that swears up and down that you MUST social distance, you MUST wear a mask are NOT DOING SO themselves! These are hypocrites. Forget Trump. He's just being himself. I'm talking about the ones who told us this stuff. And here is where it gets even more hypocritical.
9. People are often taught to wash hands, and other stuff. Why NOW, does it take for people to take it SERIOUSLY?
10. Must I even talk about the people protesting outside and nobody is "social distancing" or a mask? How about people on TV shows? Mask anyone? Or do they get special privileges? ^^
11. Notice how they wanted to close down churches. Yet everything else stays open? According to psychology, faith-based methods, believes, etc is good for people's health, spiritual being, wellness, etc? While you don't want too many people over packed, these same people now want to police your homes. And you don't even have to have any more than 10 people anyway. Then they do the same online. If you want to fellowship online, they want to interrupt your internet services. Does anybody not notice internet services are suffering since 5G came along? And that's another issue. Some people are already complaining about the service. If the power grids God forbid gets messed up, then what?
12. Then there are the issues of the virus itself. This virus is not even really a virus. It's parasites. Italy confirmed it by breaking protocol. What virus goes into a man's semen? None. You know why? Because viruses don't do those people. Wake up and take some biology and medical classes! Get a book and educate yourselves. Speaking of that.
13. They NOW are saying this new strain may forgo the mask AND the handwashing. THEN they say that 6 feet may be useless because this thing can travel over 20 feet.02 Reply- +1 y
Does anybody want more evidence? Because there is plenty. Plenty. And nobody is putting these things together. It's not that they're 'rebelling' per se. We already know the ones who are denying there is one. That's their opinion. It's not that don't believe it doesn't exist and that people aren't dying. But that is is just a way to wipe out people for a new system far worse than anyone can imagine and one of Biblical proportions. And the worse part is, people WANTED this. And they got it and it's not yet over.
+1 yI’ve been wearing a mask since April (stuck at home in March), and the mask “mandate” didn’t go into effect until June here. Personally , I think I’ve only seen a few people NOT wearing them, yet our cases keep going up. I’m not a scientist, so I am not saying they do not work, but it doesn’t seem like they do right now. Why people “rebel”? Hard question, but maybe because many of the orders aren’t even legal under state laws, and people don’t want to obey?
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1.2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Well what I wish is people that say they don't care would give a good reason why I look at it like this I go in to a big big plumbing business everyday every other day as you walk into the front door there is a gurl there she takes your temperature as many as 500 to 800 people walk in those doors every day and by always ask her how many people have you had to turn away. Since day one of this not one person,,, ok well whst about all the deaths has anyone done home work on this ,, if u go back 10 years in your city you can look up how many people died every year and the reason behind there death there is a list of about 15 causes. So look thst up for the last past 10 years and you will see it's about the same give or take 20 to 100 per cause per year,, the take that same grsf and add covid to it send you will see something strange no one is dieing from any thing anymore or very little they are all dieing from covid
Ok so in saying thst now when all this came out our goverment told our doctors that they were not allowed to do autopsies on people who died. Because of there reasoning it would spread and bla bla doctors said F YOU And did them anyway in there report they list everything covid is doing to our body's and why we are dying ok so now we Have all the above ,,, and there is something killing older men and women ok so there has to be a truth in there dome where
Ok 3 weeks before all this came out. Or wait
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Ok I work and I work hard I make my body work it's ass off because I love it I can out work 2 and. Guys and. 2 it's before it's time to go home there done they want to go now I don't care what it is I'm doing I hsve no quit ok 3 weeks before all the happen ,, my body started changing something was wrong I was running out of breath the air was heavy it's as is I drank glue and it was holding me back I wanted to know whst was going on it was in the air research lead me to China they had just fired up 5 G what's thst research leads me to over 800 scientist from all over the world went to the United nations and to Washington to say HEY WE can't DO THIS 5 G WILL HURT EVEN KILL PEOPLE ,,, RESEARCH TELKS WHAT THE EFFECTS THAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE HUMAN BODY NO AT TGE SAME TIME COVID COMES OUT CHINIA SAYS WE HAVE A PROBLEM ITS COVID 19 SO NIW WE HEAR NOTHING SBOUT 5G AND MORE YOU KNOW WHERE IN GOJNG WITH THIS. FO RESEARCH YOU TELL ME OH BY THE WAY 5G IS ALSO USED FOR MASS DESTRUCTION ITS A MILITARY WEAPON RESEARCH WILL SLSO TELL YOU EHST IT IS DOING TO OUR WATER RIGHT NOW can't WAIT FOR THRM TO TELL ME CIVID 19 IS FOJNG IT TO OUR WATER00 Reply
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yIt's because the death toll is exaggerated. There are people dying of other causes who are being labelled is dying from Covid.
When we first got the virus the deaths were high, because it's a new virus. This always happens with a new virus. The people dying were mainly old people and people with health issues which made it harder to fight the virus.
What's more, the treatment methods were pretty bad at first because the doctors went through standard procedure for this type of virus, which isn't entirely their fault because with a new virus it's really all experiment action and seeing what works, but those treatment methods didn't work for Covid. A lot of people died on ventilation machines when they only made things worse.
Cases are rising now again, as the government are imposing more restrictions and are saying that it's about the failure of the people to follow the rules. Bullshit. It's seasonality. The common cold and the flu are coronaviruses just like Covid. People get more colds/flus in winter than they do in spring right? Same thing here. Side note: they're saying that covid has killed off the flu because 98% less people have the flu - that's because flu patients are labelled as having covid - only the most gullible of people would believe that statement.
But what happens with new viruses is that you get a high death rate at the start, then in subsequent "waves" which come every year at winter like I just said, less people die. Less people are dying now.
To justify the rules they're pointing at cases rising, but the death rate is much lower than it was in the beginning. They're purposely lying about the threat, because it's not all about fighting a disease. It's about control.
What they're doing now is exactly as was predicted before by many different people, and there have been studies done on this, computer simulations and everything (check out event 201). The easiest way to gain control of the people, to justify the erosion of human rights and freedoms, is to use some kind of catastrophe and to convince them that it's all being done for their safety. For the greater good.
In the past fighting terrorism was the excuse they used to invade your privacy, now almost nothing you do is private. This time it's fighting a new cold/flu.
They can always count on the large majority of people to be gullible enough and stupid enough in these situations to beg the government to take their freedoms away in the name of safety, to be thankful for it, and then to attack those who see what's going on.
The reason many people proudly break the rules is because that's the way we resist moving towards totalitarianism. When it comes to invasion of privacy for example people will say "well if you're doing nothing wrong you have nothing to hide". Who decides what's wrong and what's not? The government. What happens when the government is wrong and you have no ability to say or do anything about it because all of your freedoms have been taken away? Now you're a slave.
I guess it all comes down to trust in the government. I think it's terribly naive to think that politicians acts based on your best interests. They always act in their own interests, always. The one of thing they're all brilliant at is lying. They don't give a shit about you.10 Reply1.3K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. People are stupid... Like if it doesn't happen to them it doesn't exist. Which I think is just a stupid mentality to have.
The standards is ridiculously simple to follow. Stay around 6 ft apart and wear a mask. Like it's not that hard to follow this...
Why cause a ruckus by refusing to follow these rules?
And besides as we enter into winter when you step outside your face is going to be cold. So wearing a mask would actually help a lot.
I know it sure did for me when I had to get up early in the morning.00 ReplyI think a big part of it is a lot of people don't know a single person that has had it, so it just isn't real to them.
11 Reply2.5K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. One this is an idea that it's taking away our freedom of speech



Another reason, is people dont believe covid is that serious and they think people are overacting.
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+1 yThe procedures are fucking retarded and ineffectual against a virus.
It's like you're a science-denier if you don't play along with a bunch of unscientific claptrap designed by completely nincompoops specifically to appeal to Karens who want to become petty enforcers of these new rules.
SMOEBODY OUGHT TO START FUCKING SLAPPING PEOPLE.00 Reply- 562 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.
+1 yBecause when black people were shot it's oh let's suspend the cop or if there's cancer "sorry we can't push FDA guidelines for a cure" but when all the old boomers in charge are dying from a little cold when cancer is killing more people all of a sudden it's "Of course we can push FDA guidelines because were in charge" that' why.
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+1 yThink back on the teenage years , the time where you disobey your parents wishes. The government is the parent and we are the teens. There will always be rebels within any system we create. There will be nothing can can please everyone in the entire world.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yClearly you still need to wake up. You only have a little time left to do so. Watch the following video. If that does not wake you up, then it will be too late.
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+1 yThe % is falling NOT Rising.
Sure the TOTAL will Rise, but the Total Deaths only by Covid is under 10,000
Democrats and their nursing home policies, put many thousands of at Risk patients in vicinity of infected people. causing more deaths.00 Reply- 683 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.
+1 yI think people are like that because of the lock dams whenever you make people do something there going to rebel against it that's just the nature of meI think people are like that because of the lockdown whenever you make people do something there going to rebel against it that's just the nature of me
00 Reply 324 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. It has to do with anti-authoritarianism bred into American society. Honestly I think you'd get more widespread cooperation with the law if you told people they COULDN'T wear masks lol
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yOver here it's a case of most people thinking covid doesn't and won't affect them. It'll icky affect the elderly and already sick. So the economy is being squashed for something that could be controlled differently.. Your thoughts?
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Opinion Owner+1 yYup happens a lot
372 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Rebel is probably the wrong word most people aren't doing it to rise up they're just thinking "fuck it".
Personally when I've disregarded the rules it's because I've managed to find a day or two work.00 Reply
+1 yBecause it's about reducing the population. Less sex if you block off the events. Less kids. Import from other countries. It's coming soon.
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 ySelfishness, lack of education, science denial, spite, and childishness.
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+1 yThe death toll is a lie. The fact that you can't see it is prove of how affectively the media brainwashes people
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+1 yI don't understand it and I am a staunch conservative.
00 Reply Stupidity. Sheer unwavering and evergrowing stupidity.
00 ReplyThey want to be treated like cattle rounded up and sent of to some sort of camp where all the sick people go to disappear.
00 Reply8.1K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. They want their jobs and their ability to provide for their family back.
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+1 yMostly low IQ accompanied by zero knowledge about anything science related.
00 ReplyToo many people not caring about anyone but themselves
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yTrump politicized it and brainwashed his cult into thinking it's just the flu.
00 ReplyLet's agree to disagree. I don't want to argue.
10 Reply4.5K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Herd mentality
00 ReplyCombination of ignorance and entitlement.
00 Reply18.6K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. It’s not immediate danger like seat belts.
00 Reply1K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Commands inspire rebellion.
00 Replyidiocy
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+1 yOur Human Rights
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