Oh, forgot an important one... tough guy self-exceptionalist bravado. “I ain’t scared of no damn virus! I’m gonna live my life!” Just what they fail to realize is this isn’t akin to wearing a seatbelt or not and risking your own safety, this driving down the wrong side of the road just because you feel like it. But I think these people are the ones who are very skeptical of the severity of this whole thing, and some even buy into political conspiracy theories about it.
We're almost at 240,000 deaths in the us and its rising
Yeah that’s the thing about deaths. They’ll never stop rising. You can’t go negative on deaths. Every death is tragic. We have 440,000 deaths a year from medical mistakes.Nothing you replied contradicts anything I said
Well I dont understand why people aren't taking easy steps to reduce the spread
What’s easy, in your opinion? Losing your job? Falling into depression? Not being able to see an elderly relative in the nursing home? Seeing children’s education suffer?
Wearing a mask, washing your hands and socially distancing
Masks are ineffective. You should be washing hands anyway.
They've been proven to work
Really? Like here?fee.org/.../
I dont click links but I personally side with 99% percent of medical staff and scientists who say they work to whichever degree
You don’t click links, lol. That’s hilarious. 99% of medical staff and scientists do NOT say masks are effective. I guess when you don’t click links to read it’s easy to throw bullshit numbers out there.
I don't click links because people have sent sites filled with popups lolAnd let's settle at 95% then
I’m not going to settle. Because those same “scientists” and “experts” were telling us to not wear masks back in the spring. Masks are nothing more than a false sense of security so that impotent government officials can say they’re “doing something”.
For that to be true, at the very least 235 million people would have had to have contracted it. Give me a break.
@Ad_Quid_Orator No, dummy. People have immunity to covid 19 because of their immunity to other coronaviruses. They’re similar enough for many people’s immune systems to shrug it off.
We've been through this: that study only shows that the virus is less likely to infect cells that have the appropriate antibodies. That doesn't mean that they're immune; in fact if you caught the European strain of COVID-19 you could still get sick with the Asian strain and vice versa.
@Ad_Quid_Orator Yup. We have been through this. Aside from you being dead wrong It makes your magical vaccine useless.
No it just means we need a different one for each strain.
@Ad_Quid_Orator Which isn’t being developed. Oh, and...nationalpost.com/.../study-suggests-novel-reason-for-wide-range-in-covid-illness-people-never-exposed-to-virus-have-some-antibodies
Once you developed the first one and again that doesn't mean that they're going to be immune dipshit.
@Ad_Quid_Orator lmao. I actually feel bad for you. You’ve bought so far into this sham that you have to defend it despite all logic and common sense.
And you've fallen so far into the denialist death cult that you just assert you're right when your argument gets debunked.
@Ad_Quid_Orator You have yet to debunk one thing. Because you can’t handle a logical breakdown of your nonsense.
Yeah, I did; having antibodies doesn't make you immune.
@Ad_Quid_Orator It sure does. That’s what antibodies do, dingus.
For the EXACT same virus dumbass.
@Ad_Quid_Orator So explain how those who have no previous infection from covid-19 have immunity to it, fucktard.
They aren't they are just less likely to contract it if exposed. Now you explain how people got infected twice.
And if you plot the severity of infections from a given disease across a population, you'll see a Gaussian distribution:With some people having very mild symptoms and others having very severe ones so some people only having mild symptoms doesn't mean that it isn't a dangerous disease.
@Ad_Quid_Orator And WHY are they less likely to contract it? Oh yeah, because they have immunity to it.As far as 2nd infections, they’re still not more than anecdotal. Could be a false positive either time. We know for a fact the PCR tests over-cycle and can detect other coronaviruses. And those reinfections are exceedingly rare (by the CDC’s own admission).
And the MAJORITY have mild symptoms. You’re super scared of asymptomatic spreaders, remember? I have to keep reminding you of the statements you make. 81% who do get symptoms have mild to moderate symptoms.
By mild that just means that they don't have to be hospitalized.
@Ad_Quid_Orator that also means they have symptoms like a mild cold. More times than not.
It can but the point is that it can hospitalize enough people to overwhelm our healthcare system if left to spread unchecked.
@Ad_Quid_Orator no, We’ve not seen that at all.
For the nth time, we haven't seen that up until now kutv.com/.../utahs-packed-icus-could-mean-trouble-for-covid-and-non-covid-patientsbecause we have curtailed the spread. Had we not locked down and used masks then the healthcare systems would have been overwhelmed a long time ago. How many times does this have to be explained to your dumb ass?
@Ad_Quid_Orator lmao. Because you’re doing the equivalent of using a night light to keep monsters away. “see, every night the light is on, we don’t have monsters!!!” You’re speculating with no basis in science. So It can be dismissed outright.
Except some are starting to become overwhelmed and we can model the spread of the virus based on the growth and recovery rate and find that it would indeed be overwhelming to the health care system:miro.medium.com/.../1*zyY7iwh16H0wCR1g0nAssw.jpegAnd before you say "it's just a model" or use some other BS cop out, we're already seeing hospitals being overwhelmed.
I understand that you're not concerned about contracting COVID because you'll recover. What about all the people you unknowingly infect in the two week period before you have symptoms? You're ok with potentially causing someone else's death? There is no immunity. The COVID antibodies don't last. You can be infected repeatedly by each strain.
@Yanifah If there’s no immunity then a vaccine is useless. It’s as simple as that.
Again, no you can make a vaccine for both strains and you wouldn't need to make the second one from scratch; you'd have to tweek the first one.
No natural immunity. Antibodies are no longer present after a few months.This vaccine will not be permanent, at least not early versions. It will be like an annual flu shot.
@Yanifah You’re categorically wrong. People have natural immunity to covid-19. Antibodies leave after about 6 months, as they do with EVERY disease, then your T-Cells take over.
Does anybody want more evidence? Because there is plenty. Plenty. And nobody is putting these things together. It's not that they're 'rebelling' per se. We already know the ones who are denying there is one. That's their opinion. It's not that don't believe it doesn't exist and that people aren't dying. But that is is just a way to wipe out people for a new system far worse than anyone can imagine and one of Biblical proportions. And the worse part is, people WANTED this. And they got it and it's not yet over.
Like I said, plenty of evidence to create an extensive list. And unless anybody desires for me to list them all. I'll leave it at 13 for now.
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Its low risk people thinking it won't effect them and giving it to high risk people and it being fatal
Yup happens a lot
Seems to be a common phrase
Good idea actually haha
Something like that