Here is a question to everyone who believe not wearing face-diapers is irresponsible?

[cunnilinguist]

If you are one of the people that believe not wearing face-diapers is irresponsible, I would be curious to hear your opinion on the following:

Were you doing the responsible thing by wearing a face-mask in 2018 when 80,000 people died in the US alone and hundreds of thousands more worldwide in influenza, or were you spreading viruses and more than likely causing the death of God knows how many people that you came into contact with who then got infected by you, spreading your germs on to countless others?

How about all the other years before 2018? Were you wearing a mask during the bird-flu pandemic? During the swine flu? SARS? MERS? How many lives have been lost because of your negligence? And will you be doing the "responsible" thing and continue your virtue-signalling in your face mask for the rest of your life?

Finally, what is your opinion on the expert opinion of top pathologist Dr. Roger Hodkinson who told government officials in Alberta that the current coronavirus crisis is “the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on an unsuspecting public"?

To quote from the news article that can be found on https://summit.news/2020/11/18/top-pathologist-claims-coronavirus-is-the-greatest-hoax-ever-perpetrated-on-an-unsuspecting-public/

Noting that he was also an expert in virology, Hodkinson pointed out that his role as CEO of a biotech company that manufactures COVID tests means, “I might know a little bit about all this.”

Hodkinson remarked that “social distancing is useless because COVID is spread by aerosols which travel 30 meters or so before landing,” as he called for society to be re-opened immediately to prevent the debilitating damage being caused by lockdowns.

“Masks are utterly useless. There is no evidence base for their effectiveness whatsoever,” he said.

The doctor also slammed the unreliability of PCR tests: “positive test results do not mean a clinical infection,” and that all testing should stop because the false numbers are “driving public hysteria.”

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Let's see what science says:

"No significance difference in the incidence of postoperative wound infection was observed between masks group and groups operated with no masks" ( https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20524498/ )

"Facemasks do have a clear role in maintaining the social cleanliness of surgical staff, but evidence is lacking to suggest that they confer protection from infection either to patients or to the surgeons that wear them." ( www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4480558/

[jakerson181]

The only people who think masks are face diapers are people who know what comes out of their own mouths is just a big load of shit.

[jakerson181]

By the way, you may want to read up on your "expert top pathologist". It's not very pretty.

www.snopes.com/.../

newsroom.royalcollege.ca/.../

apnews.com/article/fact-checking-9765563716

factcheck.afp.com/canadian-doctor-falsely-claims-pandemic-hoax

www.boomlive.in/.../dr-roger-hodkinson-makes-false-claims-to-state-covid-19-is-a-hoax-10962

[cunnilinguist]

Let's see now, shall we? Quote directly from the news article:

"Hodkinson’s credentials are beyond question, with the MedMalDoctors website affirming his credibility. He received his general medical degrees from Cambridge University in the UK (M. A., M. B., B. Chir.) where he was a scholar at Corpus Christi College. Following a residency at the University of British Columbia he became a Royal College certified general pathologist (FRCPC) and also a Fellow of the College of American Pathologists (FCAP)."

summit.news/.../

So to get back to the original question:

Were you wearing your life-saving face-nappy in 2018 or were you out spreading your germs killing people? Simple question, it requires a simple answer.

[jakerson181]

Are you fucking for real? Are you still clutching to that bullshit summit news "article" when I gave you five different sources including the royal college itself saying the guy's full of shit, has no idea what he's talking about and completely tearing apart his argument point by point.

This is the problem low skilled propagandists like you have. You find some ridiculous far right wing biased article claiming some guy has expert qualifications and lying, uh, I mean unintentionally misrepresenting his background and the roles he's held and then the article treats every ridiculous unsubstantiated conclusion out of his mouth as if it is written in the Bible. Do you not think anyone else knows how to use Google? Do you not understand it took me about 2 minutes to find 5 articles all saying how full of shit this guy is and how he's misrepresented his qualifications. Did you take the time to actually read anyone of those 5 articles before linking that same bullshit summit article again.

And here's what media bias fact check thinks of Summit News:

"Overall, we rate Summit News Questionable based on Extreme Right-wing bias, promotion of conspiracies, misleading and unproven stories, and a complete lack of transparency."

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/summit-news/

Dude, get the fuck outta here with this bullshit. You're just a joke.

[cunnilinguist]

I don't think there is a single person that is going to read your wall of words. But thanks for spending the time to type it all up. :D :D :D

[jakerson181]

You got caught redhanded, chump. No comeback other than "ohhh, too many words. My head hurts. I'm too stupid to read it all." That's really the best you got?

You're just a poorly skilled bullshit artist. Nothing more. Hopefully, that's not too much for you to read, jerkoff.

[kimbim]

vaccines Should still work!! This is the important thing. Look like most people are gonna take the vaccine and that would pretty much eradicate the virus because they don't spread it.

I personally haven't got vaccinated yet, I'm waiting my turn. Hopefully it'll be soon.

All viruses mutate, meaning they acquire changes in their genome.

Mutations usually don't change the viruses "machinery " much so it doesn't really matter that much

There was a British mutation too

If a virus is inside a host for a prolonged period it can mutate more. The more people infected and the longer they are sick, the more the mutation.

Even the little spikes on the virus are the same. Scientists are currently working on a way to teach our immune system to recognize the spikes itself, so we will be immune to all Corona viruses in the future.

Personally I can't wait to see the conspiracy theories that will come out in the months leading up to this.

[michael1469]

So if masks are useless, why do doctors and nurses wear them when preforming surgery?

[michael1469]

How is it that this hoax has spread around the world? All the peeps who dead, were paid actors? All the dcotors and nurse are also paid actors, all the excess dead people in morgues are just a hoax, the vaccine is fake because they had nothing else better to do...

Do you even think before you write this bullshit?

[cunnilinguist]

You can't be THAT stupid, surely. I hope you're just trolling. Viruses and 100s of times smaller than bacteria. Surgeons wear masks to protect the patients from BACTERIA, not viruses. Do you know how small a virus is? Like Covid? It goes through the fabric of the best surgical mask like sand through a fishing net. Even my kids know this, and they don't even go to school yet. How old are you, like 3?

[michael1469]

CDC says otherwise.

[michael1469]

Masks cover the nose and mouth and are intended to help prevent people who have the virus from transmitting it to others, even if they do not have symptoms. CDC recommends wearing cloth masks in public settings where social distancing measures are difficult to maintain. Masks are recommended as a simple barrier to help prevent respiratory droplets from traveling into the air and onto other people when the person wearing the mask coughs, sneezes, talks, or raises their voice. This is called source control. If everyone wears a mask in congregate settings, the risk of exposure to SARS-CoV-2 can be reduced.

[cunnilinguist]

What you are talking about is called "aerosol transmission". Masks play zero part in that. In fact, the ability of a face mask to prevent the infectious sprays reaching the wearer's mouth and nose is questionable since, before the advent of mask use, dentists were no more likely to die of infectious diseases than the general population.

Not only that, literature reviews have confirmed that wearing a mask during surgery has no impact whatsoever on wound infection rates during clean surgery.

References:

Bahli ZM. Does Evidence Based Medicine Support The Effectiveness Of Surgical Facemasks In Preventing Postoperative Wound Infections In Elective Surgery. J Ayub Med Coll Abbottabad 2009; 21(2)166-169.

Lipp A, Edwards P. Disposable surgical face masks for preventing surgical wound infection in clean surgery. Cochrane Database Syst Rev 2002(1) CD002929.

Lipp A, Edwards P. Disposable surgical face masks: a systematic review. Can Oper Room Nurs J 2005; 23(#):20-38.

Zhou Cd, Sivathondan P, Handa A. Unmasking the surgeons: the evidence base behind the use of facemasks in surgery. JR Soc Med 2015; 108(6):223-228.

Brosseau L, Jones R. Commentary: Protecting health workers from airborne MERS-CoV- learning from SARS. Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy May 2014.

[michael1469]

So dentists dieing... was that before or after covid... bet ya a buck that was pre covid.

How many peeps got it and said... damn i sure glad i didn't wear a mask or played more cautious? Why would doctors and nurses, scientists WORLDWIDE say wear it, when its not needed? Even asshat trump got it asame that piece of shit got cured.

[michael1469]

The republiclowns who refused to wear mask on Jan 6... started testing positive... democrats... not so much... hmmmm what are the odds of that...

[michael1469]

What next you gonna tell me kiwi fruit test positive? oh wait... you can't use a human test on something other then human or you will get bullshit results.

[cunnilinguist]

Shot yourself in the foot there buddy. You are wrong, and wrong, and wrong again. Animals and plants HAVE been tested for covid. Guess what. They tested positive. Do you live in a cave?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6cL-RbY7No

[michael1469]

You can't use a human test on non human subjects and expect accurate results. You tube is not a legitimate source of news.

... the test used to detect the presence of the virus in the fruit has been made only and exclusively to analyze human test material, not food.

Got it? covid test are ONLY designed for HUMANS.

[cunnilinguist]

No, you are wrong. It was INTENDED as such but that does not mean that it is not able to show the presence of viruses in ANY genetic material. You really don't know what the PCR test is, what it does or how it works, do you? Please explain what EXACTLY would need to be different in the test if you wanted to show the presence of a virus in the genetic material of, say, a dog. I can't wait to see what you say to that. You'll probably dodge the question because you are clueless AF lol.

[michael1469]

Yup, i have no clue. Since, my source actually comes from arrgone national labs, yours comes from youtube. Great reaseach on your part... eyeroll. Might as well have had it Qanon, oh wait thats all bullshit too.

[kimbim]

It's true yo. It's a hoax. I heard it today from this guy I met who saw it on YouTube. The virus is a part of agenda 20x0 and the illuminati has corporate secrets with 64 degrees freemasons and lizards people who fly the pyramids around the flat earth spreading the virus. This is why all government work together for the first time in a trillion years and a million doctors are in one it while keeping the mouth shut and I personally think that wearing mask is dumb. I wear a tinfoil hat.

[michael1469]

@kimblm i think you are more right then these other clowns.

[cunnilinguist]

@kimbim My research comes from a president. Your research comes from a guy in a white coat who says "look at me, I know stuff". Good job, don't forget to pat yourself on the shoulder.

[kimbim]

vaccines Should still work!! This is the important thing. Look like most people are gonna take the vaccine and that would pretty much eradicate the virus because they don't spread it.

I personally haven't got vaccinated yet, I'm waiting my turn. Hopefully it'll be soon.

All viruses mutate, meaning they acquire changes in their genome.

Mutations usually don't change the viruses "machinery " much so it doesn't really matter that much

There was a British mutation too

If a virus is inside a host for a prolonged period it can mutate more. The more people infected and the longer they are sick, the more the mutation.

Even the little spikes on the virus are the same. Scientists are currently working on a way to teach our immune system to recognize the spikes itself, so we will be immune to all Corona viruses in the future.

Personally I can't wait to see the conspiracy theories that will come out in the months leading up to this.

[kimbim]

vaccines Should still work!! This is the important thing. Look like most people are gonna take the vaccine and that would pretty much eradicate the virus because they don't spread it.

I personally haven't got vaccinated yet, I'm waiting my turn. Hopefully it'll be soon.

All viruses mutate, meaning they acquire changes in their genome.

Mutations usually don't change the viruses "machinery " much so it doesn't really matter that much

There was a British mutation too

If a virus is inside a host for a prolonged period it can mutate more. The more people infected and the longer they are sick, the more the mutation.

Even the little spikes on the virus are the same. Scientists are currently working on a way to teach our immune system to recognize the spikes itself, so we will be immune to all Corona viruses in the future.

Personally I can't wait to see the conspiracy theories that will come out in the months leading up to this.

[Anonymous]

I see your argument. If we made a mistake in the past, and didn't wear masks. Or, if we didn't find it necessary to wear masks to save 20,000 people, then it makes no sense to wear masks to save 300,000 people. The other part of your argument is, we will ignore the best minds and the best experts, and listen to the few outliers who disagree with these experts. If that how you invest your money? You listen to the few financial "experts" who want you to invest in toxic waste dumps and coal mines? Of course not, but you will listen to the few people who disagree with the great majority of medical experts. You are not spreading clarity. You are spreading manure.

[Anonymous]

More importantly, many. many americans will die from being fat, not facemasks... Yet they will make zero effort to get in shape.

[kimbim]

And fatasses die more often from covid so all is good

[joeldalton]

And lockdowns are ineffective also. The whole ball of lies is unraveling.

[kimbim]

It's true yo. It's a hoax. I heard it today from this guy I met who saw it on YouTube. The virus is a part of agenda 20x0 and the illuminati has corporate secrets with 64 degrees freemasons and lizards people who fly the pyramids around the flat earth spreading the virus. This is why all government work together for the first time in a trillion years and a million doctors are in one it while keeping the mouth shut and I personally think that wearing mask is dumb. I wear a tinfoil hat.

[joeldalton]

@kimbim stupid ass.

[cunnilinguist]

@kimbim https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIKWhp2_eyM

Who's crazy now, huh?

[kimbim]

vaccines Should still work!! This is the important thing. Look like most people are gonna take the vaccine and that would pretty much eradicate the virus because they don't spread it.

I personally haven't got vaccinated yet, I'm waiting my turn. Hopefully it'll be soon.

All viruses mutate, meaning they acquire changes in their genome.

Mutations usually don't change the viruses "machinery " much so it doesn't really matter that much

There was a British mutation too

If a virus is inside a host for a prolonged period it can mutate more. The more people infected and the longer they are sick, the more the mutation.

Even the little spikes on the virus are the same. Scientists are currently working on a way to teach our immune system to recognize the spikes itself, so we will be immune to all Corona viruses in the future.

Personally I can't wait to see the conspiracy theories that will come out in the months leading up to this.

[joeldalton]

@kimbim lol, they're always a conspiracy theory until they're facts. It's intellectually lazy to dismiss dissenting views as "conspiracies". We've seen since Biden's been elected that the democrat governors and mayors are scrambling to open their states up, that reinfection is not likely, and now Biden is pushing the "herd immunity" narrative. Which the "conspiracy theorists" were told was a myth. The World Health Organization has lowered the standards for PCR test cycles because the current level creates too many false positives (another conspiracy months ago). Lower pcr test cycles will mean fewer cases. There's talk now of a vaccine passport that you'll be required to have in order to travel (yet another theory dismissed as a conspiracy).

[kimbim]

novel coronavirus involved in the current outbreak has been named SARS-CoV-2 by the World Health Organization

Similar to other respiratory illnesses, the symptoms of COVID-19 may include fever, cough, and shortness of breath

You should keep distance to other people, wash hands, wear a facemask that prevents the spittle from entering the air, possibly carrying virus, but does of course not prevent the virus particles themselves, which are too tiny, as most high school students know.

[joeldalton]

@kimbim Spoken like a good NPC.

[kimbim]

So as we all know, between 1348 and 1350 graveyards were full of corpses. From Italy to Ireland 20,000,000 died. Europe collapsed and most believed it was the end of the world.

The plague (bubonic plague) caused by the bacterium yersinia pestis

Back then, hundreds of years ago, people who didn't even know the microscope (let alone electron microscope) figured out the key to battle this.

They stayed as far apart as possible, locked up sick people, and tradesmen received coins in a jar of acidic water, so as to kill the germs.

Luckily they defeated the plague in the end.

Since then we have had lots of diseases, recently SARS and mers, which were Corona viruses.

Now we have sars 2.0 . How low IQ do you think people who have all kinds of weird beliefs about this have?

There is nothing new about this. We tried it all before. We have vaccines for 130 years. Even before that, doctors would experiment with putting small doses of infection on healthy people to make them immune.

Of course, back then, people didn't spend all day on the internet

[joeldalton]

@kimbim

[kimbim]

Coronaviruses are a large family of viruses that may cause respiratory illnesses in humans ranging from common colds to more severe conditions such as Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) and Middle Eastern Respiratory Syndrome (MERS).

The novel coronavirus involved in the current outbreak has been named SARS-CoV-2 by the World Health Organization

Similar to other respiratory illnesses, the symptoms of COVID-19 may include fever, cough, and shortness of breath

You should keep distance to other people, wash hands, wear a facemask that prevents the spittle from entering the air, possibly carrying virus, but does of course not prevent the virus particles themselves, which are too tiny, as most high school students know.

Take care.

[joeldalton]

@kimbim Masks are for fools.

[kimbim]

it's claimed that a miracle molecule that has been around for years has the ability to be sprayed anywhere and it kills covid.

Predictably this is hidden by the government ( notice how with these people everything is "the government " and not even giving a single thought to how many there are around the world)

So this molecule business is... well... true.. but also (as you guessed) NOT -- at least not yet!!

Scientists are working on it. The independent scientists, that all work autonomously, not controlled by the many different governments around the world who can never agree on anything as we all know

[joeldalton]

@kimbim ok, loser

[kimbim]

it's claimed that a miracle molecule that has been around for years has the ability to be sprayed anywhere and it kills covid.

Predictably this is hidden by the government ( notice how with these people everything is "the government " and not even giving a single thought to how many there are around the world)

So this molecule business is... well... true.. but also (as you guessed) NOT -- at least not yet!!

Scientists are working on it. The independent scientists, that all work autonomously, not controlled by the many different governments around the world who can never agree on anything as we know currently

[joeldalton]

@kimbim wear two masks or kill grandmas

[kimbim]

It's been questioned weather wearing double mask is a good thing. Currently we're not sure though.

[joeldalton]

@kimbim Lord Fauci commands it. Wear your goggles, too.

[kimbim]

Dr. Fauchi recommends wearing a mask

[joeldalton]

@kimbim two masks. You are denying science. And goggles.
nypost.com/.../
www.webmd.com/.../fauci-suggests-wearing-goggles-for-full-protection

You are a grandma killer, spreading your filth to innocent people. Your diseased breath is going everywhere.

[kimbim]

Wearing a mask prevents the virus from being sprayed in the air

[joeldalton]

@kimbim You have to wear two. Which means 1 is ineffective. If 1 was effective you wouldn't need two. You are a fool.

[kimbim]

As long as the mask is approved for the current pandemic it's perfectly safe. Following CDc guidelines is key.

It's enough to look at the other people who wear mask and see what they're doing

Ofc not looking at the 2% approximate who are not able to understand

[joeldalton]

@kimbim CDC guidelines say two masks. You are killing grandmas by wearing one. You are a bad Chinese propagandist if you're not up on the latest.

[kimbim]

CDC guidelines can be found on the website. It's recommended to were n95 mask but currently the biggest problem is getting the 3% who won't currently comply to do so

[joeldalton]

@kimbim No one is buying your Chinese propaganda anymore. The jig is up, son.

[kimbim]

Calling it the Chinese virus is technically not correct. It could have come from china but its its currently not sure

[joeldalton]

@kimbim It's the kung flu, and pushed by Chinese propaganda. Like this:



Xi Jinping is an asshole and he can rot in Hell.

[kimbim]

Calling it kungflu is technically incorrect. Intelligent educated person would say covid-19 or corona virus

[joeldalton]

@kimbim I'll call it what I want. Xi Jinping can suck my star-spangled dick.

[kimbim]

You have freedom of speech of course. I'm just advising you how to sound educated and serious

[joeldalton]

@kimbim You aren't advising shit. You're a propagandist, so I owe you nothing.

[kimbim]

I'm currently trying to help you with u understanding basic things like commonsense and common knowledge and ofc u don't owe me anything that's a given

[joeldalton]

@kimbim You aren't doing any such thing. You're spouting propaganda that isn't backed up by science. Nothing more.

[kimbim]

No I'm trying to help the less fortunate people... thus trying to help you... nothing more

[joeldalton]

@kimbim Don't you pull that horse shit. I'm more fortunate than you. You're a tool. You have no knowledge other than the propaganda shoveled down your throat.

[kimbim]

Well, common knowledge will sometimes be thought about in that way by the less educated thus easy to fool people who don't have the knowledge to sort information

[joeldalton]

@kimbim I agree, you proved you're incredibly easy to fool. China propaganda is playing you like a useful idiot.

[kimbim]

While I don't get much Chinese propaganda I do know a lot of different things about viruses and stuff. Mostly because I'm educated and intelligent. I devote myself to passing it onto others. Ie people like you darling

[joeldalton]

@kimbim I'm not your darling. You've not demonstrated any intelligence. Just rote regurgitation of Chinese propaganda.

[kimbim]

All poor people sitting on the internet at 9 in the morning are my darling. Just like homeless men and drug addicts and drunks

[joeldalton]

@kimbim keep dreaming, cupcake. You're a shill.

[kimbim]

Totally. Peace out

[cunnilinguist]

I can see you have been having fun on my thread with an AI bot. Did you enjoy it?

[joeldalton]

Yup. I liked LeftistCommie 2.0 a little better.

[kimbim]

Error error... answer to this does not compute.. system overload... google answer for responding to completely absolutely braindead people... respond: "fuck you, you dumbass" .. beep