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There was a case of a black man rapping a Asian girl and killing her. They didn’t show his face on the reports. They are basically trying to somehow blame white people again even though there’s a large amount of attacks coming from black people. Specially black guys. I only saw one video of one black girl in there saying stuff about Asians.
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What's Your Opinion? Sign Up Now!But the victims are white so it's not important because muh oppression and white privilege
That’s horrible but I’m not sure it’s the appropriate thread to talk about this on since this is referring to Asian American issues and not white women issues
@doopayo so white children raped by asisns should shut their mouth for the good of diversity is what you are saying?
No, I’m saying since this is about Asian American issues it doesn’t make sense to change the topic to white women/children. It’s a good topic but what it’s unintentionally referring to is that Asian Americans shouldn’t be cared for because they r*pe white women” so that’s good to educate people if it’s in a more related context.
I never said it didn’t matter, I said it isn’t appropriate to bring up their suffering under this topic specifically only asking about Asian American struggles because it’s kind of missing the point. Why respond to a certain groups pain with saying, well this group r*pes white women after. It’s as if you’re subconsciously trying to Intel that what their going threw doesn’t matter cause some Asians happen to r*pe white women. That’s horrible but it’s also inappropriate and highly insensitive to comment that on a post regarding on how poorly Asian Americans have been treated leading the spark of COVID 19
They’re not Asians, they’re Pakistanis, specifically Pakistanis, Afghans and Bangladeshis. But they aren’t Asians, so please don’t count other Asians in it
I mean they are Asians but only Pakistanis and a few other islamic countries, almost all other Asians from other countries aren’t like them except for china perhaps
@slay_girl hey you recognized it too! 👏 But yea the fucking newd media would rather die than ever report correct information about grooming gangs and terrorists. They always use extremely vague words like Asians instead of just saying it how it is and say they are muslims lmfao
@Hanoi_Jane00 White guilt is the worst thing that ever happened to the West. If any other race commits crimes, people sympathize with the perpetrator whereas if white guys or girls are found guilty, people wanna lash onto them.
@Hanoi_Jane00 Islam is a religion and an ideology, its not race or nationality silly 😊
@vald9inches and yet 85% of these grooming gangs fall into the ethnic grouping of Pakistani Muslims. That is immigrants or descendants of Pakistanis in Britain who are also Muslim, a massive figure considering they are a tiny minority in Britain. They also account for the majority of incestuous marriages and children born with congenital birth defects.
The perfect muslim is Mohammed and he married and had sex with a 9 year old girl that is why muslims around the world do this.
You are right
the far majority of these attacks have been from black dudes
but once again the blame goes towards white people.. or trump.. etc
im sure anti-asian sentiment was increased with the "china virus" statement by Trump
but THESE same attacks are coming from demographics that are NOT Trump supporters
@EmperorRetribution Yeah unfortunately that's what the media will usually do.. Blame the "White" Supremacist boogie-man or Trump Supporters.. As for the rise in crime being due to Trunps comments.. I don't know, if we could really blame it for that.. We would have to see when exactly the crimes started rising.. Could be when the BLM riots started..
That’s so true, and some Americans still treat Muslims like trash because of prejudice till this day, it’s just sad how hateful people can be still.
@jshm2 agreed. Wouldn't take America seriously. Back in 80s when Pakistan helped USA against Soviet forces in Afghanistan, Ronald glorified the 'jihad' and 'mujahideens'. And when 9/11 occurred.. all that Islamophobia came along.
@ItsTheNephilim Actually the United States helped Pakistan and the Mujhadeen (largely based in Afghanistan/Pakistan.. but also had many Arab elements) against the Soviet Union and the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan (the Soviet supported government of the nation).
The United States helped supply the movement through Operation Cyclone
the Pakistani ISI largely organized the forced on the ground.
@EmperorRetribution 'helped Pakistan', yeah right. It was the same old rivalry of the Soviets and USA that was destroying Afghanistan and when Pakistan created Taliban under the nose of USA, USA didn't react directly to it and didn't do anything against them while Afghanistan still suffered under hardcore radical Islamists.
@ItsTheNephilim
Of course it was for political reasons
the reasons for any relationship was for the value of the nation itself
The United States wouldn't support a nation that didn't serve its purposes
and furthermore
the Taliban were created in 1994.
5 years after the end of the Soviet involvement in Afghanistan
the Afghan Government collapsed in 1992
Operation Cyclone ended in 1989
@ItsTheNephilim ^ further more the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991
forgot to add that detail
so your argument is a mute point.
@EmperorRetribution that's what I'm talking about, USA, for its own purpose and interests made conflicts in other countries. I didn't know about when was Taliban founded but it certainly controlled Soviet influence after the main conflicts. It was mainly Al Qaeda before them. Unsurprisingly, USA didn't mind them then.
And the only 'terrorism' done in that area was put on Islamic radicals (of course according to America).
So USA didn't help in any way, other than just adding fuel to the fire and burning the country for its own interests and ego.
@ItsTheNephilim
And why is that big deal?
every nation on the planet only looks out for its own interest.
Nations don't do deals with others, unless it has value
Nations dont create alliances.. unless it has value
Nations dont supply resources unless it has value
that is the reality of all groups.
Al Qaeda was created in 88 in Pakistan
and was not an American ally (quite the opposite, they would launch a string of attacks on Americans throughout the 1990s)
Simply because the USA supported the Mujhadeen (which was a large group of people... many of them didn't agree)
doesn't mean the USA actually agreed with them
the USA was more interested in harming the Soviet Union.. than creating lasting alliances
they wanted the Soviet Union to have its own "Vietnam" (Basically a quagmire.. that creates struggles at home.. and drains resources... the Soviet Union in Afghanistan.. like the USA in Vietnam.. won the majority of the battles.. but ultimately issues at home forced a change of policy.. in the case of the Soviet Union it was the Gorbachev reforms...)
The conflict in Afghanistan also started due to a Soviet coup in the late 1970s
They installed a Pro-Soviet government (which is why the Afghan public in large didn't agree with them.. and why most of the mujhadeen were Afghan)
You can argue about the pros or cons of it
or rather the USA was a "Good Guy"
but that is a very simplistic way to look a conflict
Sure the USA did its a fair share of bad things
same with most every other nation on the planet
This comes from your own biases
than any basis in reality.
@EmperorRetribution talking of biases, it's the hypocrisy of USA I'm pointing out. The Taliban and Al Qaeda didn't do any good with to civilians of Afghanistan nor did USA or The Soviet. And anyone who acts against the interests of USA is a terrorist while USA doesn't take any such lable for creating nuisances in other countries and literally destroying them.
@ItsTheNephilim That is likely due to the fact that the Taliban Regime was overthrown by the Northern Alliance (who were viewed as the official government of Afghanistan by the United Nations)
Yes, the USA was involved
but it was largely Afghans on the ground
that Government was then created through a Loya Jirga (a Pashtun tradition of elders making decisions) and through the 2002 Bonn Agreement
While the United States supported the government, and continued to support it to this day
since 2014, its largely been the Afghan Government handling its own security..
NOT TO MENTION UNAMA often reports most civilian losses are due to insurgents
from 2009 to 2011 (the peak of USA involvement) around 80% of all civilian deaths were attributed to the Insurgents...
and now the war is MORE BLOODY.. without heavy American involvement.
blame the USA all you want
but facts do matter here
@ItsTheNephilim ^ I will further add that the Taliban Regime in the 1990s lost much of its international respect due to its brutality... and numerous massacres (borderline genocide) it carried out.
This is why even TODAY.. most Afghans view the Taliban as outsiders (and due to their Pakistani backing. many view them as Pakistani proxies)
^ not to mention Pakistan was usually the Safe Haven for Taliban after every defeat in the battlefield throughout the conflict
made it easy for them to recoup their losses.. retrain... recruit... regroup.. and launch more raids.
there losses were so high throughout the conflict
that even Antonio Guistozzi consulted them in the "Al Somud" obituaries..
from 2001 to 2014 there were around 70,000 names in those lists (much higher than most mainstream media claims)
even NOW
RIV Monitoring (an Afghan based news source... based out of Orbandi News)
reports that since
Feb 2020 (the RIV period.. for the peace agreement)
at least
3,500 ANDSF... 16,000 Taliban.. and 2,000 Civilians have died
and the Taliban are quite litearlly the only group
not taking the peace agreement seriously.
@EmperorRetribution never not blamed others. Now it's a fuck up, I admit and the country is going through shit without much of USA's involvement. But the starting point of all is this was USA and The Soviet, a little before the involvement of Islamist radicals.
Now, the shit has escalated to a lot of things and the Afghanistanis are fighting among themselves.
I never said Taliban stood for any good. Nothing more than radicals they were brutalizing the people of the country. Look above, I blame them too. I don't wanna repeat what I said about USA too.
@ItsTheNephilim Yes
and what I am saying is
its not particularly UNIQUE
and to be honest
the United States has led the world in an era that has been VERY peaceful compared to most others
during an era of massive economic growth (for all) and technological/social/political progression
where certain standards are being held that were NEVER considered before
were laws are in place that simply didn't exist in the past..
Sure the USA is NOT perfect.. and has done its fair share of bad things
but trust me when I say its fairly good compared to most
@ItsTheNephilim ^ and in regards to Afghan history
they have spent most of their history being CONQUERED.. by others
be it the Persians.. Indians.. Greeks.. etc
they are very diverse
and have always suffered from internal struggles
the issues TODAY.. are not unique to Afghan History
they are fairly normal :P
@EmperorRetribution USA's ideologies and laws of liberties and all are all admirable. But the way they were and are still being abused by the leaders and how they work of collective good goes against how their ideals would wanna work in other 'unorderly' places. Clearly driven by self interests and not so much for good of others. Best example, it's influence in middle east.
I agree on the history of Afghanistan, the ones who exploited are all the same. Just didn't like the way how USA could dodge the blame and put it on others.
@ItsTheNephilim How is the USA dodging any sort of blame
considering the USA seems to be blamed for EVERYTHING
from most internal conflicts in nearly every nation
for how the the market works
for racism... or sexism.. ETC
the list goes on
I dont see the USA avoiding blame on anything
if anything I see the USA as the prime target for blame for most things (even if it isn't really the party that is particularly influential on the topic at hand)
@EmperorRetribution for the starters, Islamophobia. It would be highly localized to Afghanistan and the area nearby unless it gained too much momentum (like in Syria afterwards). The way USA acknowledged Islamophobia after 9/11 (in many ways being itself responsible for it) cost a lot of Muslims their image worldwide and all the focus was on how Muslims terrorize the world. Of course many innocents died that day but people started to value loss of some lives as more valuable than others. USA interferes in many ways in other nations, some for good, some for bad but mostly, for self interests and it costs greatly to many others.
@ItsTheNephilim As we both said, all nations serve their own self interests
no nation in history had done otherwise
No doubt the USA aided in the increase in Islamophobia
and I am unsure anyone has denied that?
I dont see politicians going out of their way to claim the opposite
or the news media going out of its way to claim the opposite
So I dont see where you are coming from that the USA is avoiding blame
@EmperorRetribution I'm going to put it in a simpler way and try the most recent happening as an example.
Someone from ISIS kills several innocents, that's an act of terrorism (and appalling indeed).
Biden bombed Syria, that's not terrorism.
I'm sure you can figure this out yourself what I'm implying.
@ItsTheNephilim Naturally after 9/11 .. the United States used terms like "Islamic Terrorism" (which is was)
but didn't recognize the negative consequences of using such terms..
this is why it was quickly changed.. and for over 10 years.. the term hasn't been used by the government in such a way
If anything the government made attempts to explain that
MOST Muslims were good... and MOST were doing the fighting against Radicals
But of course now we have movements against White people that use the same generalizations?
the idea that all whites are unconsciously racist... that they need to be less white (according to coke employer training)... etc etc
WHICH ARE CLEAR examples that are ignored today by the mainstream
But what you are speaking about is a very specific period of the past 20+ years
@ItsTheNephilim And Bidens strike was a retaliation against strikes on a Iraqi/USA base (where a Iraqi Civilian was killed... along with a foreigner contractor)
If we hold your standard
ANY WAR
is Terrorism
there is something completely different from launching a strike that kills 22 Iranian backed militia (according too SOHR)
and carrying out a Genocide against the Yazidis.
@EmperorRetribution didn't Trump promote Islamophobia too? And that's pretty recent to me.
Despite all the colonialism and exploiting *those* whites did worldwide, I still condemn how they're generalized today.
How liberals in USA promote BLM and stay silent on violence they cause, I see the hypocrisy. The situation is worsened when likes of Trump promote white supremacy. Many acknowledge that whites who stayed in America defended the native blacks from the other colonizers but that was all over the world and one side was clearly at entire fault.
But then again, what were the USA troops doing in that area? What if Iraq had a base in USA and it'd retaliate by sending bombers over USA if any harm was done to its troops?
@ItsTheNephilim
Not that I know of? Perhaps?
But many of his statements were taken out of context for political clout
TAKE THAT FROM A BERNIE SUPPORTER
for example the "Very Fine People" (where he supported KKK/Neo Nazis/White Supremacists)
in the actual interview (the full thing) he clearly denounces them multiple times.. and merely states that the Left and Right Wing has "very fine people" on both sides.. but also radical elements that were bad
^ he's routinely denounced them
But the media often portrayed him as unwilling to denounce those groups
even during the 2020 debates one of the questions involved denouncing them (which he immediately did)
So I have my doubt about how "BAD" or "RACIST" Trump really was
he said some stupid stuff
but much of it was taken out of context
2. those "whites" didn't really do anything particularly unique to world history.. but of course biases tend to highlight "white crimes" and ignore others
3. YOU ARE RIGHT... the crimes of the BLM were ignored
4. The USA has a defense agreement with the Iraqi Government... thats the main reason for the base.. and the continued support to fight against ISIS elements. (at this moment there are 2,500 troops in Iraq... and also 2,500 in Afghanistan... under similar purposes)
@ItsTheNephilim ^ Iraq also supported the United States when the base was attacked (Because its people were harmed)
and has launched raids to dismantle various militant groups within its own country
the USA and Iraq are allies
just as the USA and Afghanistan are allies
there are disagreements no doubt
but they work together.
@EmperorRetribution good to see a Bernie supporter acknowledging hypocrisies of BLM. Even though I'm not from the USA, Bernie's policies sounded good to me.
Now, Trump had Muslim ban in USA. I think that speaks a lot. Secondly, why did he kill Qasem Solemanni of Iran (who was known to have insurgencies against the ISIS)? All this adds to his agenda of having its vote bank. White supremacists, Christian radicals, Islamophobia. I admit he got rid of Baghdadi but why kill someone who is helping you in some way by killing the ISIS members? No ISIS, no Islamophobia, no vote bank for Trump.
Look dude, I'm from India and I know almost everything the colonizers did to the country and how left some things on us (like border disputes) about which idiots here still fight with each other. That aside, the colonizers here were all whites but I don't generalize against them in today's world. In fact even in my few encounters with the whites, none of them seemed to be a white supremacist so I'm gonna hold on to my experience and consider everything and not generalize.
I wasn't aware of recent developments between Iraq and America. The only thing that makes up the news is their disagreements.
But didn't USA destroy Syria before by bombing it to get rid of ISIS (which was directly or indirectly aided by USA)?
@ItsTheNephilim
Ehhh with Syria
long story short (and feel free to look up this.. so you know im telling the truth)
in 2011 there was this thing known as the "Arab Spring"
basically protests/revolutions throughout the Muslim world.. calling for reform.. or change of regime... etc... much of it based on human rights...
some governments buckled and made changes
others did not
FOR EXAMPLE.. Libya did not..
and the Assad Regime in Syria was open to it
until it started attacking its own civilians
this led to much of the Syrian Army breaking away and forms the "Free Syrian Army"
this created a Civil War in the country
and led to a breeding ground of Radical organizations (like ISIS)
The United States played a very minor role in the early years
Obama had no interest in being aggressively involved... and viewed it as one of his worst decisions (because ultimately a lack of decisive action by the United States.. led to chaos)
by 2014 ISIS has risen in the chaos.. and spread throughout the region
the United States didn't intervene militarily until it started to lead to a NEAR collapse of the Iraqi Government.. and the massacre of Kurds in the region
THEN the USA intervened
and by 2017.. 80,000 ISIS militants were killed in the US operations
soo once again NO
the United States didn't cause the Syrian war...
nor did it fire the first shots (nor has it really been heavily involved)
it was a complex war
with... Assads military.. Anti-Government forces (some moderate.. some radical)
Russia intervention.. Turkish Intervention.. American intervention.. ETC
ultimately the USA concentrated mostly on ISIS (though it would have been happy if Assad was overthrown)
the intervention of Russia prevented any chances of that
and the USA didn't really push heavily for it in any significantly military way
@ItsTheNephilim In regards to the Muslim Ban
that was actually outlawed by the United States Supreme Court
^ yet other nations do the same
take Japan for example which has policies that Americans would consider EXTREMELY Racist
but no one talks about that
and Solemanni was very influential in the Iraqi Civil War... the IRGC led by Solemanni supported various Shia Militias that fought against the Coalition and Iraqi Forces... FOR EXAMPLE.. the Mahdi Army... which during teh mid 2000s was one of the BIGGEST Anti-Government forces... ultimately they surrendered to the Iraqi Government
Also, he was at fault for the deaths of at least 700+ American forces (be it through his support of Shia militias.. or arms shipments to those groups... there were even claims of IRGC soldiers fighting in the field).
He also was influential in pushing Irans agenda throughout the region... aiding in revolutions in Yemen for example (which clearly neither... the USA.. or Iran.. or Saudi Arabia.. have been the good guys in)
Solemmani was leaving the Baghdad Airport with Muhandis (a leader of the Shia militias in Iraq)
CLEARLY it was a very aggressive strike
but it was necessity I believe
Iran was also able to launch a strike against a USA base (no one died).. but it helped them save face in the issue at least I suppose
in teh end I think both sides got what they wanted
USA killed one of its biggest opponents and a MASSIVE instigator of Civil War in Iraq
and Iran was able to save face.. and make it look like they responded.
@ItsTheNephilim
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^ to be more specific with the idiots in the comments
1. Most of the cases reported of attacks on Asians have been caused by the Black community, FOR EXAMPLE Yahya Muslim, Antoine Watson.. who together make up 4 of the high profile attacks (among many others, who clearly in the videos are black men). YES!! There have been attacks by others.. but clearly this is largely being carried out by the Black community
2. Though Trump clearly stated stupid things about the "China Virus" as he put it, the Black community is the most disproportionately against Trump (roughly 80%+ voted for Biden).. How can we blame Trump (who would be ignored by the Black community for being racist).. for the actions of the Black community?
3. Statistically, the Black community is far more likely to commit hate crimes. . and has had a history of it. According to both the FBI Uniformed Crime Report, and the Justice Bureau National Victimization Survey... the Black community commits an EXTREME disproportionate amount of crimes... even just between Whites and Blacks... over 85%+ of Hate crimes are committed by Blacks themselves on a yearly basis... This extends into other communities (including the Asian and Hispanic community). It should also be mentioned that many of these issues like... Robberies and Homicide are very distinct to the black community as well (over 50%+ of those committed each year are from the Black community) <-- That is a depressing statistic for a community that only makes up 13% of the population
The Fact is, if you remove the Black community from USA Statistics... The USA Crime rates (be it murder.. racially charged violence.. etc).. decreases by a lot.
^ IMAGINE... a community that is pandered to on a daily basis... but makes up over 85%+ of Interracial crime between the White/Black communities...
Not to mention the Police shootings... which according to the Washington Post.. the Black community only makes up 26% (if you listened to the media tooo muchh.. youd assume it was all of them)..
Its nonsense
and somehow this is a White mans problem
Lets accept other communities NEED SERIOUS WORK
and that pandering to them on a constant basis does nothing but cause more problems
the Black community is one that now has around 80%+ fatherless homes
in an era where supposedly the Civil Rights movement has made such strives
PLEASE
Lets stick with the facts friends!
get away from this stupid BLAME THE WHITE MAN game.
Sorry folks! But these are facts!! :)
Evidence has been provided...
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We all know truth matters
but the issue is most people can't get beyond political biases and narratives
and many want to preach hatred through the guise of equality
those people are not worth your time
the are lost.
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Yeah a lot of guys love Asian girls. But then again, what kind of man excludes a race of women? Beautiful women exist in every group.
Anon... So what are you saying? You are a beauty queen? If you had a decent personality and treated your boyfriend well he wouldn't be jacking off to Asian porn.
Seriously? How protective of Trump do you have to be to ignore people in need of help? Take his dick out your mouth
@Hypnos0929 No intention to stick up for Trump. The media is hyper fixating with a new angle, and people are too dense to see it.
You are right
most of these attacks are coming from the black community
I have no doubt that Trumps statements on the "china virus" helped spur anti-asian sentiment
but much of the hostility is coming from a community that disproportionately voted AGAINST him.
wouldn't make sense they would take his statements seriously?
Asian/Black hostilities are nothing new in the United States.
there have always been issues in those communities
BUT ONCE AGAIN
the blame has to be on the White man.. or Trump (who I dont care for)
much of this is just silly.
@doopayo You guys in USA are crazy, thous for me ar unreal story for this sentuary.
I think is a huge movie or something.
@doopayo He is asking where this hate is coming from
clearly the Black community is the source of many of these attacks (or at least a very disproportionate amount of them)
so he is asking WHY this is happening?
The Irony is that much of the blame is going towards Trump... who is no longer President
Without a doubt he said some questionable things.. and I don't deny the "China Virus" statement created Anti-Asian sentiment
HOWEVER
considering most of these attacks are coming from the Black Community
the same Community that voted 90% or more AGAINST Trump
it makes little sense they would take Trumps statements seriously
Just another way for the Black community to lay blame on the White man for its own actions.
all too common these days
sadly its often sanctioned by the media...
I mean
Yahya Muslim was charged with 3 attacks against Asians
including a 91 year old man, 55 year old man, and 60 year old woman..
84 year killed by Antoine Watson
a 27 year old Asian veteran was attacked
and he reported by attackers as Hispanic
ETC
but we will pretend its all White supremacy.
NOT TO MENTION a further detail ignored in the United States
because its all about POLITICAL NARRATIVE
from the Bureau of Justice National Crime Victimization Survey
of the 593,598 reported Interracial Crimes (not including Homicide.. which the Black community makes up over 50%+ of Murderers and Murder Victims each year)... BETWEEN BLACKS AND WHITES
Blacks committed 537,204
Whites committed 56,394
even data shows Hate crimes committed by Blacks are overrepresented by over 50%
while Whites are underrepresented by 24%
according FBI Uniformed Crime Report
The Fact is
We blame white people... white supremacy... white white white
while the majority of the nation is suffering under racial tension created by minority groups
while whites are generally more open and accepting.. and less likely to commit these crimes
WHY dont we hear this?
POLITICS
its really good to get people riled up over nothing
just like with Police Shootings
if you watched the news...
youd assume most people shot by Cops were BLACK... and it was allll racism.. and unarmed black men
the fact is
according to the Washington Post (a liberal news organization)
from 2015 to this day
only 26% of shooting victims were black
MOST ARE WHITE
and most victims of police shootings are ARMED... not unarmed
YET EVEN THEN
the black community
which makes up only 13% of the USA
makes up over 50% of murders
over 90% of interracial crimes between blacks and whites
over 50% of robberies.. over 30%+ of crimes such as auto theft.. manslaughter...
they make up the majority of Asian related hate crimes
@EmperorRetribution talkin about white supremacy, how can i trust thous statistic who incriminate the black comunity?
And why do they make so many crimes if they have the same right like all the other americans?
@EmperorRetribution If i come in USA as a white person from a country that whas olso faceing persecution time how i should feel and akt about black comunity?
@EmperorRetribution first, please don’t associate violence with race. I know you’re smart enough to know that race in and of itself isn’t a good enough reason for why certain things happen. I’m also going to ask where you get your statistics from because I’m unable to find anything on black-Asian violence.
However I did find one article on it, it’s pretty long so I’ll sum it up. It basically states that some including Asian movie stars and celebrities, have called for greater recognition of the racism that targets Asian Americans. Some demanding quick police action and others pointing it at another minority group.
Some of the suspects in these attacks where black men, and some Asian Americans responded to this by blaming supposed anti Asian sentiment from the black community for the crimes. However this narrative has not been supported by evidence
Organizers in the Asian and Black communities have been quick to denounce this rhetoric and call for solidarity. Last weekend, hundreds gathered in the Bay Area to call for solidarity and pay homage to the victims, wearing shirts emblazoned with “Black and Asian unity”.
This is basically what it was talking about , but I understand maybe partially your side because my moms Asian and my dads black and I remember hearing that my dads side of the family where just pretty prejudice about my dad being with my mom.
Saying stuff like, does she even speak English despite her being Asian American, she probably smells like Chinese food, and just so much more.
so I can’t speak for the entire black community but I can speak for at least my family a little bit.
For the black community
I believe the biggest issue is several fold
1. Culture... the fact is the culture has become ANTI-establishment... and extremely prejudiced against other groups for perceived violations
2. Much of Black manhood is based upon TRUE toxic masculinity... where anything is viewed as an attack... this can create conflict.. (you see it in other groups... but blacks in particular suffer from it)
3. Gang violence... which is self explanatory
4. much of the foundational building blocks of black community are nonexistent... for example.. fatherless homes which make up over 80% of the black families.. meaning many black children simply lack a decent family foundation... this makes it easier for gangs to pick them up
@doopayo I already stated these statistics are from the
FBI Uniform Crime Report (which is a yearly report)
and the Justice Bureau National Victimization Survey (which is also a yearly report)
and I never claimed race had anything to do with it :)
simply stating the facts supplied by the government
@EmperorRetribution how i should akt around black comunity as a white person from a country that had sufer yares of persecution and in this time discrimination in Europ?
I think most Black people are pretty chill!
I have worked off and on within the Black community
and specifically for a Black dominate school district
Like most groups
MOST OF THEM are good people :)
But there are clear racial prejudices you will run into with any other group
its simply more common in those communities
and black communities tend to be dragged down heavily with high crime rates
that you dont often see in poor white (or Asian) neighborhoods.
id say dont worry about it! :)
just dont be too aggressive in approaching people
some people will be okay with talking
others won't :)
I dealt with some racism with coworkers.. and decided to just ignore them.
other black coworkers were great people though
@EmperorRetribution "dont be too aggressive in approaching people" < what do you mean whit this one?
OH and I will also mention that some of the Anti-white movement comes specifically form White people hahaha
I consider myself a Liberal (I love Bernie Sanders)
but some of my fellow White liberals are complete idiots
its why people like Robyn Diangelo can get a lot of air time.. pushing concepts that are inherently racist
its why companies like Coca Cola can try to push orientations towards it works that teach them to be "Less White"
Or why we can hold double standards like
Jodie Turner being Anne Boelyn (Who was a White queen... but a Black actress) as progressive
but the idea of Gal Gadot being Cleopatra is racist (though Cleopatra was Greek... not Black.. like many claim)
What I am saying is
in any community
its not too good of an idea
to try to go around and create conversations with EVERYONE
some people simply dont wanna talk
the same thing is applied to the White community as well
if you are a foreigner... going around some White bar
trying to start conversations with people
it might get to teh point that some people would view it as harassment or view you are strange
Just let it be casual
let the conversation be organic
dont try to force it :)
@EmperorRetribution i heard about "be less white" personal if i will ever hear that S i think i will really become reacist.
Personal i feel ofended to hear that.
Is just a turn around racism agains white people
@EmperorRetribution In Romania we force all the conversation, have some very agresive verbal fight but at the end we finish the night by drinking and call each other whit a smile "bad words"
Exactly
the problem is
as a White person you have to "Ignore" it
people act as if its not a big deal
on top of this concepts like White Fragility are a double sword
they not only expect Whites to accept unconscious bias (which is racist in itself)
but then tell them if they dont they are racist
no matter what
theya re racist
@EmperorRetribution The forgot what racism and slavery whas?
What if a diferent nation come and bring on them other bias that maby they are not guilty of?
Like prohibition, WW2 actions, Cold War and who know other?
In that moment how will they akt if somebody else come and play the victim?
They only want to avoid accountability and spread prejudice themselves.
and under the guise of "equality" is the best way.
@EmperorRetribution Yes, but why don't other minorities do the same?
The US is full of immigrants.
If a man of a different color accused me of racism for no reason, I could accuse him of discrimination.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ojsgq5hcq7o
I think that is influenced by culture.. and the fact the black community suffers from a lot of pandering.
whereas the Asian community rarely calls out racism unless its justified
and the Latin community (which outnumbers the black community now) does the same..
the Black community has developed a culture around pushing racism rhetoric into everything
I think its mix of Black culture
but also the pandering from the White community (especially the political left)
that has made it easy for the Black community to avoid accepting accountability for most things..
and ultimately blame all issues on "Racism". OR simply use the term to get what it desires
@EmperorRetribution this is the moust recent case of discrimination against romanian people and is the first acusation of racism from a black person.
Whitch whas all a stupit situation started by the black guy.
The referee identificate a player by saying "that black guy" romanian translation "ala negru"
Negru = Black
But "negru" is very close to Spanish word "negro" whitch is a real racist word
@EmperorRetribution Ther is a Latin community in USA?
Latin = Portugal, Spanish, France, Italy, Romania
LatinO = Soud America continent countrys
Yes, I meant Latino.
and ya I've seen this BS
there was a White Youtuber who knocked out a Black Athlete..
I forget the names
but a lot of people were say "RACISM!!!".. because the White guy won.. and knocked him out in a BOXING MATCH
it will get to the point that a White man can't make money
or win anything.. without being accused of being racist
100% correct!!
the majority of attackers have been black
nearly all high profile attack.. BLACKS
even statistics according to the Justice Bureau National Victimization Survey state as much
people can ignore facts as much as they want
@modelUN242 Well yeah.. it had always been like that, at least most of the time. If this world witnessed 10 viruses since it existed, like at least 8 of them spreaded from China lol. These guys just don't know how to eat and live, I wish Alexander The Great invaded their country and bringt civilization lol.
No. The white chicks will post a hashtag and seek validation for their own lives. Asian guys will still be jerking off to hentai.
Yeah but Asians really have it bad in some European countries, it’s good to spread awareness of this.
All races get treated unfair, but all races don’t get equally as unfair treatment statistically.
You are correct
most of these attacks are coming from Black communities
but indeed
the blame goes on the Whites
Obviously is it bc they are targeting Asians and it has significant rose since the pandemic
@Thatoneasian I know I’m responding to the other person cause they’re saying that the movement in and of itself is racist, most likely cause they’re butt hurt that they themself aren’t being oppressed/included😭
Be careful with that
the idea that the Black community should be accountable is RACIST :O
or so it seems these days.
I literally watched a news report
they were talking about young black men attacking elderly Asians
it immediately turned to (and I kid you not)
"These rich Asians haven't been giving the blacks jobs"
"maybe the Asian community should be more open to the black community"
then
"Well its all white supremacy.. thats what is causing most of this.."
its getting old.
I bet somewhere on Uranus... there is someone from Mars pushing species based prejudice and its the white mans fault
there's probably a wolf eating a rabbit right now... and the rabbit union is thinking about.. a group of white hunters that probably caused the problem
not to mention a bird that has pooped on a car.. and now the transformers are angry because its the white mans fault.. afterall.. bird shit is white.
@EmperorRetribution The ghetto can include anyone, but the rapists in that news article were black so it’s anecdotal. But usually black people are violent in the ghetto, I mean look at the BLM “protests”.
You are absolutely right...
but of course we can't say that
cause Blacks can't be racist or wrong
or so it seems
@EmperorRetribution Blacks are the most oppressed so it’s probably anger and resentment. Plus, they have higher testosterone.
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