Should the anti-vaxxer and COVID denier Florida Councilman Fred Lowry, who is hospitalized with COVID, have gotten the COVID vaccine?

[BlacklightShade]

"We did not have a pandemic, folks. We were lied to," Lowry said in the May 30 sermon.

Volusia County Councilman Fred Lowry has been sick for about two weeks and was admitted to the hospital on Monday night, Councilwoman Billie Wheeler told The Daytona Beach News-Journal.

“He’s pretty darned sick,” Wheeler said.

Lowry, a 66-year-old Republican serving his second term, received monoclonal antibody treatment last Friday, according to Wheeler.

https://www.news-journalonline.com/story/news/local/volusia/2021/09/07/volusia-county-councilman-fred-lowry-hospitalized-covid-19/5713876001/


https://nypost.com/2021/09/07/florida-councilman-a-covid-doubter-hospitalized-with-the-virus/

[Curmudgeon]

"COVID Denier"? As opposed to someone who took the calculated risk that the risks of the relatively new vaccines outweighed the benefits of a flu that, face it, most people recover from completely? It may have been a bad choice, but it WAS his choice.

Meanwhile, the same Leftists who spent the last four years propagandizing us all that nothing the Trump Administration did was right, are now pushing vaccines that were rapidly developed as part of "Operation Warp Speed", a Trump Administration program? Square that circling back, Ms. Psaki

[BlacklightShade]

I don't understand. Are you opposed to the vaccines because Biden pushed them or because Trump pushed them?

[Curmudgeon]

Uh, no, I in fact had the Johnson and Johnson one. But the same people who are now pushing them once denigrated them?

[Anonymous]

People conveniently forget that the media are liars, do not care about the truth, and always have an agenda. If you only see news about so called antivaxxers dying or being in hospitals with COVID, but never any news about the perfect vaccine despite it being an experiment, a light bulb should be starting to light up in your brain... if it isn't, then you are simply brainwashed. But here is the thing about the truth, regardless of what anyone says, it remains and will always remain unchanged.

If I saw reports from the media about both sides of every equation, then that's different...

[Daniela1982]

Ask him. Some lady who knew she was dying in the hospital still refused it. I guess a person has to do what they gotta do and face the consequences of their decisions just like any other decision we make in life.

[kyleelyn199723]

I think some of the things he said are pretty extreme but to be honest vaccinated people are also still being hospitalized

[kyleelyn199723]

He is in the age group where Covid affects them the most and he is a male so even with the vaccine there’s still a chance he would’ve been hospitalized anyways

[Inexpensivefurniture]

I'm wondering how many more times anti-vaxxers need to see this pattern of "I'm not getting the vaccine!" -> "Just found out I have covid" -> "He's in the hospital. It doesn't look good." -> "It's with great sadness our family announces the passing of..." before something finally clicks in their brain

[Anonymous]

Why are you dunking on covid victims that you don't agree with? Did you do this with the flu? What about people who you do agree with who are hospitalized for covid should we be making examples out of them? No. People will get sick some will recover without medical treatment, some will have to go to the hospital, and some will die. That is life. You shouldn't be making a federal case out of everyone who gets sick. People are allowed to make choices in their own lives; some choices are better than others. But we shouldn't sit around all day Monday morning quarterbacking or deriding them for choices that you don't agree with. If you have a little grace and compassion for them they are more likely to accept your advice for future choices.

[Ez-Bri-Z]

It isn't really a dunk as much as saying guys like this take risks with everyone else's life to push a political agenda most likely for his own gain because he knows what plays well within his party. Him getting sick shouldn't be celebrated but it should definitely serve as a warning to those who followed and listened to him that the virus doesn't care what your political leanings are.

[RolandCuthbert]

The American Taliban's batshit insane backwards fruitcake belief system is on full display.

[sawno]

No, if the virus hospitalized him the vaccine would likely have done worse. Same spike protein but in case of the vaccine it spreads everywhere.

[Still-alive]

are you a doctor?

[sawno]

Just a guy that listens to doctors.

[Still-alive]

cite your source

[Anonymous]

Yup, his pathetic pandemic comment was just to try and buy votes , I'm sure he's regretting that choice now though

[FunkyMonkee]

No, he just should've just taken HQC or one of the other cures.

[joeldalton]

No he shouldnt’ have. Fuck that shot, and fuck joe Biden.

[mrkdvsn]

No he should NOT have gotten this UNAPPROVED and potentially harmful drug injected into himself.

[BlacklightShade]

5.71 billion COVID shots given. Please point out the mass graves of the vaccinated.

[mrkdvsn]

They might be coming in the near future, especially with all the "booster shots" that many will get.
And I don't hope for death or incapacitation for ANYONE

[BlacklightShade]

How long do you want to wait while 660,000 Americans are dead already and more are dying every day? You know that Republican anti-vaxxers are dying at three-times the rate? What more evidence do you need? You also said "UNAPPROVED". By who does it need to be approved if not the CENTER FOR DISEASE CONTROL?

Could it be that you got something wrong? Or that you are following to some bad advice?

[mrkdvsn]

From what I've heard (on the best source for news... TruNews) a much greater incidence of deaths and medical problems are being had by the takers of this COVID substance. The FDA has not approved this stuff, but they HAVE approved another injectable substance which has not even been manufactured yet. There's many places you can get the uncomfortable truth, when you get away from the Mainstream garbage

[BlacklightShade]

You would be better served by sources other than TruNews

[mrkdvsn]

TruNews of course, is just ONE unbiased source. There are quite a few others that dare to warn of the truth

[BlacklightShade]

Find a different source of news.

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[mrkdvsn]

Thanks for all the misinformation, and time spent gathering it, but I'll just continue to get my news and information from sites like TruNews

[BlacklightShade]

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[Bklynbadboy12]

why do you keep asking the same question over and over with just different people

[Still-alive]

so anti-vaxxers get the message to GET the DAMN vaccine!

[Bklynbadboy12]

That's there choice to get or not get it I've found for this country so people have a right to choose

[Still-alive]

then these questions will keep popping up. deal with it

[Bklynbadboy12]

Nah its silly as fuck every body has a right to their own choice

[Still-alive]

And people around them have a right to life

[Bklynbadboy12]

True I agree but you can't force anything on any just protect yourself wearing your mask and use social distance to your advantage

[Still-alive]

Not good enough if we wanna truly beat this thing

[joeldalton]

Because she is mentally insane.

[Bklynbadboy12]

@joeldalton Well said

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

Yes, they should get the Vaccine

[Chthou95]

Does he have any under lying conditions that the media leaves out?

[humanearth]

No he should not have. His body His choice

[Sabretooth]

meh. dude knowingly pushed lies.

[anylolone]

Nope. it just doesn't work.

[_no_one_]

He asked for it.

[Anonymous]

fake news