Probably more of a set up of takeover than anything good to come out of it. But rather just let it happen, sit and watch as maybe nothing happens and we can stop bitching back and forth over stupidity
If they constantly violate our rights as American citizens clearly written in our constitution then they deserve to be removed.
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In black areas, we should defund the police completely. We should also abolish the prisons and let the poor victims of white supremacy back out so that they can help rebuild their communities
Because leftists don’t use logic. Do you have some sort of youth police corps in your town? Why don’t you ride along with an officer for a day and see what their day is like. Or better yet, go open a store in a place like San Francisco. There retailers are robbed blind daily because the town made stealing items under $900 a non-criminal offense. Take out a small business loan and have $900 worth of merchandise stolen from you 5 times a day for a week. See how long your can stay in business.
If someone assaults you, you’ll be screeching for police to help you. Not social workers.
I could say the same thing for the right. It’s clear you didn’t bother to read my argument. Than again you’re getting up there in age so I don’t expect much from you in the Intellect department
Anytime a department's budget gets cut (defunded) it results in a loss of manpower either by layoffs, attrition or the reduction of overtime. They can spin this anyway they want but the result in all of these cities is a big spike in crime.
studies have found that the best tools to establish peaceful societies are equity in education and infrastructure. lack of education and illiteracy are some of the most significant predictors of future prison populations.
As for the supposed increase in crime after the police being defunded in certain areas - homicide rates are also increasing in cities that didn’t cut spending.
Economic losses and personal stress brought on by the pandemic are one suggestion. COVID-19 also disrupted in-person education and many community programs designed to quell violence. It put a strain on police departments, hospitals, courts and other institutions tasked with dealing with the impact of crime could be a valid reason for the growing violent crime.
violence fluctuations are usually part of long-standing problems.
Then they should rebrand to reform the police because thats not the same thing. In my eyes you need to get rid of corrupt police officers who allow these things to happen. Defund the police seems to advocate for replacing the police altogether with another organisation.
We never advocated for replacing or taking away policing: defund means to withdraw funding from. We want to withdraw funding into more beneficial projects for local communities.
Which is the replacing part of it, removing the funding to have police and putting it into social workers. Thats defunding, not reforming. Reforming is what i am suggesting where you replace the corrupt police staff so the good ones can then weed out the issues.
@sawno if you read my post, I explained we need to remove funding from police so that we stop militarizing them.
Crime has been going down around the US, so there’s no reason for us to be spending so much. Especially since most is doing more harm than good in certain communities
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Probably more of a set up of takeover than anything good to come out of it. But rather just let it happen, sit and watch as maybe nothing happens and we can stop bitching back and forth over stupidity
Defunding the arbiters of the law will just lead to laws not being followed.
Aka, do you like to get raped and murdered? Then that's a great idea! Otherwise.. Not so much.
Nope, but when they kill someone of a different race they should be brought to justice and sent to jail
Why are you anonymous
I don't care for the police and I'm far right. But since leftists are pushing for it, it's amusing. "12" is the only reason their kind still exist.
We can defund police if we are allowed to open carry weapons and use deadly force in protection of property
The better way to go about it.
If they constantly violate our rights as American citizens clearly written in our constitution then they deserve to be removed.
In black areas, we should defund the police completely. We should also abolish the prisons and let the poor victims of white supremacy back out so that they can help rebuild their communities
I am not a lover of cops But we do need something in there place? to what
Nope, just the Crown Court, CPS and HMP.
Simples...
We should re-organize the police into more social services rather than murder squads.
Look if you defund the police you have lawlness keep this going and civil war will breake out
I quite literally already explained what defunding the police means..
Defunding the police is one of the stupidest ideas the left came up with. And that’s saying something.
The only thing that’s stupid is you swear your not a sheep yet you refuse to engage in any type or argument with leftists
Because leftists don’t use logic. Do you have some sort of youth police corps in your town? Why don’t you ride along with an officer for a day and see what their day is like. Or better yet, go open a store in a place like San Francisco. There retailers are robbed blind daily because the town made stealing items under $900 a non-criminal offense. Take out a small business loan and have $900 worth of merchandise stolen from you 5 times a day for a week. See how long your can stay in business.
If someone assaults you, you’ll be screeching for police to help you. Not social workers.
I could say the same thing for the right. It’s clear you didn’t bother to read my argument. Than again you’re getting up there in age so I don’t expect much from you in the Intellect department
your argument is based on a child’s reasoning.
Yeah defund them and replace them with Blm/antifa to sort out everything.
It’s always the pussies that are anonymous
Who are you going to call when they break into your house? batman?
It's called a gun.
@Ryfyle not everyone has a gun…Einstein
@Ryfyle I’m talking about me, I’m talking about people in general … ass donkey
*im not talking about me
Your point?
@Ryfyle forget it
No way! They want to defund the police, and take away the guns from the law abiding people. Criminals will always find ways to get guns.
What country are you from.
I need to know so when you defund them , i can come rob you blind
You’re purposefully doing this to get a reaction. I suggest you do something better with your time
Im doing it to show you how stupid it is to defund the cops
I believe in defunding the police if there is a better alternative
No , we should hire more of them.
Thats literally not what defunding means
Anytime a department's budget gets cut (defunded) it results in a loss of manpower either by layoffs, attrition or the reduction of overtime. They can spin this anyway they want but the result in all of these cities is a big spike in crime.
studies have found that the best tools to establish peaceful societies are equity in education and infrastructure. lack of education and illiteracy are some of the most significant predictors of future prison populations.
www.brookings.edu/.../
As for the supposed increase in crime after the police being defunded in certain areas - homicide rates are also increasing in cities that didn’t cut spending.
Economic losses and personal stress brought on by the pandemic are one suggestion. COVID-19 also disrupted in-person education and many community programs designed to quell violence. It put a strain on police departments, hospitals, courts and other institutions tasked with dealing with the impact of crime could be a valid reason for the growing violent crime.
violence fluctuations are usually part of long-standing problems.
@doopayo You do most of that by removing Qualified Immunity.
Not a defund, reform.
That’s literally what defunding the police advocates for
Then they should rebrand to reform the police because thats not the same thing. In my eyes you need to get rid of corrupt police officers who allow these things to happen. Defund the police seems to advocate for replacing the police altogether with another organisation.
We never advocated for replacing or taking away policing: defund means to withdraw funding from. We want to withdraw funding into more beneficial projects for local communities.
Which is the replacing part of it, removing the funding to have police and putting it into social workers. Thats defunding, not reforming. Reforming is what i am suggesting where you replace the corrupt police staff so the good ones can then weed out the issues.
@Slingblade1126 please keep your retard opinions to yourself
@sawno if you read my post, I explained we need to remove funding from police so that we stop militarizing them.
Crime has been going down around the US, so there’s no reason for us to be spending so much. Especially since most is doing more harm than good in certain communities
Crime has actually gone up since they began reallocating funds.
I don't break the law, or be where I shouldn't be.