It was mostly purchased. Sometimes on bad deals. Yes, Jackson was a psychopath. But he didn't so much initiate the Trail of Tears out of hatred of Indians, as he did it as a form of vote bribery. Men would vote for him in exchange for land. He wasn't fueled by bigotry, so much as pure greed. Mexico was hardly a land of saints either. Even before the Spaniards arrived, there was brutal mistreatment and cruelty. As well as barbaric human sacrifices.
Probably the most shameful moment in American history? The day the militias listened to Q, and didn't act, in the midst of a violent coup. "Trump has a plan! Do nothing!" yelled the psy-ops. And America fell for it.
In a matter of mere months, four years of rescue from Hillary were for nothing. Over 20 years in Afghanistan were for nothing. Millie Weaver and Katherine Henry were tortured in jail for nothing. Hundreds of kidnapped civilians not even involved in January 6th were jailed and tortured to maintain a psy-op, and otherwise were denied their rights for nothing. Dozens of brutalized poll watchers in Detroit were denied justice... for nothing. The Vatican got to rewrite votes in Georgia via AT&T, illegally hooking up the state to WiFi with the help of a diabolical organization that already had a history of destroying nations, chiefly Venezuela. And nothing was done to the criminals responsible.
Schaeffer Cox went to jail for nothing. Rev. Garner's kids were denied their rights by FDA thugs... and there was no recourse.
Kenosha was maliciously destroyed in parts by pedophiles and other pure evil miscreants, with the full blessing of a demonic governor who should have already received lethal injection by now. And the sorry-ass excuses for prosecutors in the state decided that the absolute best they could do, was harass a teenage boy for refusing to lie down and die at the hands of a death penalty-deserving convict released by the governor on grounds of a Chinese mold spore-induced exosome not much worse than the average flu.
And thousands of Tide Pod eaters started cheering for the prosecution, because they lust for the kid to get hurt! They don't even rise to the level of being called animals!
THAT, makes me ashamed to be American. Not some bullshit conspiracy theory about my skin color wanting to suppress the world under Social Darwinism at Plymouth Rock, 200 years before Darwin was a thing! Not Andrew Jackson's being an asshole. Now. The impotence of today, brings me endless disgrace.
No, for several reasons
1. Every country in the entire world has been guilty of some major human rights violation at some point or another. You could make any country sound like hell on earth by putting them all together. I'm not saying this to excuse the atrocities. I'm just saying that when people say "America sucks!" I say "compared to what?"
2. Right to conquest was a very acceptable practice through most of history. The Native Americans are no different. In Latin America there was a ton of that. The Aztecs were just as much subjugators of other peoples as any Europeans were. In fact, the Tlaxcalans were a tribe that fought with the Spanish against the Aztecs that subjugated them. Moreover, there's heavy evidence of intense war going on in the American southwest by natives long before the Europeans showed up. They found numerous skeletons with projectile points embedded in them and other marks of violence that well may be connected to the whole "right of conquest" thing.
I'm not saying that right of conquest is right because it's not. However, we do have to recognize the of right of conquest being as universally condemned as it is today is very modern. Secondly, we also have to reject this image that the Natives were all living in peace and harmony and no human rights violations (as we would perceive them today) were committed before Europeans came. That was not the case.
2. Again, judging a country (or anything/anyone else for that matter) by its worst moments while ignoring its best moments is an extremely unfair and uncharitable way to judge anything or anyone. There are a lot of great things America has done as well. The "American Revolution" is called a "revolution" in large part because to a great extent we created the first true modern democracy (again, not saying we invented it, but we did lay the modern foundation for it that is largely accepted today). America is very unique in how strongly our first amendment rights are protected here (much more so then even first world countries). America was a massive reason why the allies won WWII (and especially how they won as soon and well as they did). Going along with that, America has treated the Jews extremely well (in contrast to the rest of the world) and been a place where Jews have been able to flourish and be very successful. That's not to mention all the huge contributions America has made in areas such as entertainment, technology, medicine, industry, education (we have the highest ranking universities in the world), and many, many more areas.
I'm not saying that we should ignore America's faults, but it's equally as unfair to ignore America's great successes and contributions to the world.
I am not American but I allow myself to answer anyway. I want to say in advance that I am not an americaineophile.
While the United States has had dark pages in its history, so has my country, and most of the nations of this world.
You seem to make too simple an analysis and divide the world into two parts between the good guys and the bad guys I guess for you the bad guys are generally the westerners because of slavery, colonization etc, and the eternal victim would be Africans, Asian countries and also South America. But you forgot some fundamental things, it is that practically all the civilizations practiced slavery, colonization, looting, spoliation, wars etc. The countries of Africa, Asia and the Indians of America among themselves are praticed in horrible practices, you might judge that it would be shameful to belong to such civilizations. On the other hand, each of its civilizations have brought great advances to humanity through their sciences, cultures, arts etc. Everything is not white or black, but shades of gray. If you must condemn the USA then condemn humanity in its entirety
Humans have always been capable of the worst deeds, and you cannot accuse a country of all the sins in the world. We must accept that men are made that way.
If you look closely there would be plenty to be proud of as America, the United States has brought a lot of good things to the world.
thanks for the compliment🙂
I think you need to do more historical research.
Let’s start with the first colony in America. Jamestown. Established in 1607. John Smith ends being adopted by Powhatan as a son and made a subordinate chief of the tribe. Powhatan’s daughter Pocahontas married John Rolfe and died and was buried in England. So much for stollen land there. In Massachusetts Squanto helps rescue the pilgrims from starvation by teaching them to plant crops that will grow.
In NY, Ft. niagara was built by permission of the Seneca Indians by the French. Hmmm…no land stealing there. Manhattan was purchased by the Dutch from local Indians. During the French and Indian war may tribes ceded land in N. America to then England as a result of loosing the war by treaty.
During the Revolutionary war the Iroquois agreed to be on the American side only to betray the Americans and attack them without warning. Enter here the famous statement by Washington which is abused by leftists where Washington said to burn them out and starve them. The Iroquois committed and act of war and we’re dealt with accordingly. As a result of that war many tribes had to cede land by treaty as a spoil of war, the same thing happened at the end of the War of 1812.
As for the Louisiana Purchase the word Purchase would imply buying rather than stealing and accordingly all of that land was acquired by America from France.
In regards to the majority of western Indian tribes they were Spanish subjects, as Spain had made treaties for that land which was then acquired by Mexico, then the U. S. at the end of the Mexican war.
The U. S. did not provoke Mexico.
Frankly I could write a novel refuting your claims but don’t feel like it so this is the short short version. Yes, some land was taken from Indians by force. The majority was not.
The only think that makes me ashamed to be American is people with ideologies like yours.
How about this. If you think land was stollen, get off yours and return it to its rightful owners NOW. How dare you be so arrogant as to keep stollen property you believe was gained illegitimately? You are a benefactor of war crimes according to your beliefs and yet so no attempt to right the wrong you believe occurred. It takes more than words. Put your money where your mouth is and get off that stollen land now.
Thank you brother. Actually I could have given far more information and pieced it together better but I just was to lazy lol.
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u You have been thoroughly indoctrinated to hate your country. This is why politics should not be allowed to influence public education.
@t-8900 If you don't like what has happened to the US, then fight to make it better.
Sometimes. But here's a lesson from a 1st-generation dual-citizen Filipino-American.
Remember how everyone has stuff in their own personal-history that are sources of shame, embarrassment, and self-hatred? Guess what, nations are like that, too!
Philippine History was a subject I thoroughly hated back in the PH (which is now on its 5th Constitution/Republic). Why‽ We were constantly invaded and always losing. Can you imagine 500 of Spain's conquistadores conquering and ruling over 2mil natives? YES! Millions were subjugated by not even 1k Spaniards from just 1vessel just via divide & conquer. We were conquered by Spaniards, then the British for a few months, then the returning Spaniards again, then the Americans, then the Japanese.
The American Revolution succeeded, though with French help. The Philippine Revolution ("Ⅰ") was petty much doomed to failure from the very beginning. (At least the American Benedict Arnold betrayed when the Continental Army was setup & ready. Our betrayer revealed us to the Guardia Civil 1YEAR BEFORE the Revolutionary Army was ready! NOTE: And the acronym of our Revolutionary Army directly from Tagalog? K. K. K., like they never learned that U. S. Klan existed!) The Army's founder had no idea what he was doing, resulted in a chain of defeats, was replaced by actual general… formed his own faction, and attacked his own apparently-ungrateful supposed-to-be-allies! The trained replacement-general fell for Washington's doubly-lying ambassador, asked for their help, and invited our future invaders to his side! Brilliant!
What happened next? If you have Netflix, watch the award-winning Heneral Luna and see! The general (now-President of the PH's 1st Republic) posted a ruthlessly-effective α—hole general to turn the tides, then ordered the α—hole general into his own death-trap when he got f—ing obnoxious enough to the majority of the 1st Republic's government… even if it meant signing away the precious Republica Filipina's death-certificate their peers, friends, and colleagues died for. So much for the 1st Republic in All Asian History! (Oh, wait. This title I was taught in PH History class is actually also claimed by the 1st republic the global-community actually acknowledged at the time of declaration, the Republic of China, & the earlier-declared but now-defunct Republic of Ezo, which is now Okinawa prefecture, Japan. So, was the PH's 1st Republic also Asia's 1st Ever Republic, or is that PH nationalist propaganda? Which is more important earlier declaration or international-acknowledgement, even if retroactive?)
But what was the PH like BEFORE Spain invaded in the 1500's? Not much is taught us in class. With more research as an adult, I've discovered the PH could have been Spain's stepping-stone for invading Japan, which was seriously being considered in the 1500's. (And if they succeed, holy Hell!) Or if the exiled Chinese pirate-fleets with their Japanese mercenaries (who were also looking to invade at around the same time) defeated Spanish invaders, the PH would be a wholly different place! And how would the southern Muslim PH sultanates (who lasted the longest in resisting foreign-invasion) have reacted to that?
History is a mix of things, pleasant & not. The important thing is to learn from it, to not expect a perfectly-glorious re-telling with sinless saints/angels as heroes, and to try to do better, based on the lessons of your own people (& even of others!).
Just remember: History is actually plural. The histories of mankind vary, agree, and contradict. Why? Like personal-history, history is subjective, based on experiences, which vary from person to person. Likewise is national-history. Objective facts exist (ex. names, dates, locations, etc.), but the interpretation thereof ("revolution"/"revolt" or "hero"/"traitor") is subjective. For example, Filipinos & Americans fought in the late 1800's/early 1900's, but was the Washington's PH-campaign the Philippine-American War, the Philippine Revolutionary War Ⅱ, just another campaign in Washington's Spanish-American War, or the War of Philippine Insurrection? Were the the PH-militants revolutionary-heroes striving to establish Asia's 1st Republic, just a few failed Asian-nationalist dreamers common to their era, or illegitimate rebels hindering a the completion of a legitimate purchase from the internationally-recognized owner (Madrid) to it new owner (Washington) in accordance with international-law? And, definitively, what is Asia's 1st ever republic?
Whatever of the many histories you study, you will learn the behavioral- & thought-patterns, tendencies, favorite mistakes, strengths, etc. of a people. Learn from it. That's all we can do. If we can't do that, then what value is remembering the past at all?
Okay, let's break this down: the US was NOT built on stolen land; it was built on EMPTIED land. You can't steal from people who've already been wiped out by disease. Expansion came from stolen land; that's true. It's also true of every other country in the history of the world. Pretending that it's somehow worse when Americans do it is simply ludicrous, especially in light of the lesser and smaller-scale brutalities that took place to acquire it. That doesn't justify squat, of course, but exiling a couple thousand people isn't as bad as enslaving and murdering millions (though it is still awful).
"Ethnic cleansing" would've been (in Jackson's case) rounding up the Creeks and bathing them. Genocide is genocide; you needn't concern yourself with the feelings of mass murderers. Nor was it a matter of the Evil White Man simply storming up and demanding land, killing all who refused; the Black Hawk War was ENTIRELY mutual, the Fort Dearborn massacre was so far from being a legitimate battle that even the revisionists have a hard time keeping a straight face while calling it that, and King Phillip's war was, relative to total population size, more deadly than World War 2 was for the Soviets. Again- animalistic barbarity in disputes over land: show me a place this DIDN'T happen.
And I am very, VERY curious which American President apparently got elected to the government of MEXICO and sent Santa Anna up to invade Texas- that was entirely on them. Yes, the Texans refused to honor their agreement and learn Spanish while converting to Catholicism and giving up their slaves; the Mexican response was justified, but claiming that the US somehow "provoked" it is simply ludicrous.
The US is a country whose foundational hands are cleaner than most- but not by much. We pretend it was better than it was, but so does everyone else. I don't feel ashamed that my country didn't get perfectly right from the get-go; baby steps are still moving forward. The only form of shame I feel in my country is in its failure to improve further- and its current worship of self-effacing guilt.
No. Humans in every country in the world have done horrible sh*t, and I'm not an idiot being brainwashed by Communists to hate my own country because my mind is too intellectually immature to realize the first point I made. There's a reason every major country in the West eventually modeled their government after the US Constitution and why thousands of Mexicans every year, along with countless other legal immigrants, try to cross the border, and it's not because the US is "a land built by racists" like EXTREMELY stupid people like to believe.
I'd sooner be more ashamed to be a human being than I would to be an American. Although *some* people make it easier to dislike being an American due to their lack of intelligence and common sense. But again, like I said, that's a human thing, not an "American" thing. I love my country, but I don't love it blindly, and will admit it is flawed. But that mostly has to do with politicians and greedy corporate interests than it has to do with the foundations, principles, and people of the United States of America itself.
Your premise is like hating your parents because they used to be naughty or juvenile when they were teenagers. But given your age range, I'm not surprised. You've been taught to hate your country by Communists, and lack the introspective or intelligence to realize that, or that no other successful country in the world also doesn't have blood on its hands.
But regardless of all of that, you can leave if you hate the US so much. I'm not even living in the US right now and I love the core values of my country. I'm sure you'll like China much better though, young Zoomer.
@MhmdYasr0
You're an idiot, aren't you?
I think this is a difference in belief systems. No one today should be carrying around guilt over the past. If you are carrying guilt for things you do not believe in or for things you never did or said. . . maybe that is just plain crazy.
I don't participate in that belief system. My people, if so called, killed American Indians on the great plains for "White" settlers. American Indians held African slaves, even after the Emancipation Proclamation. Remembering history is not about taking upon guilt. It is about not repeating mistakes of the past. We have an issue where if we remember the Trail of Tears or the Massacre of Tulsa, some group have to have guilt. It is nonsensical.
We can remember WWII without blaming all Germans. But we can't remember the Japanese Interment without guilt? Again, that is just plain insanity.
Maybe it is time to adopt one standard about the past.
Personally, I have to not let history be a factor. This country in the past has done a whole bunch of messed up shit, but I can't change it. I love history and consider myself to be a student of it. But I can't do anything about it. However, with plenty of messed up shit still going on, I have to focus on that because there is a chance, however small, that I can have a positive impact on that. That being said, there are times I'm proud to be American and there are times I'm absolutely mortified to be American. On balance, I spend more time being proud than being ashamed, but to just be a flag-waving "patriot" is just as bad as being a hater. To be critical of something doesn't mean you don't love it; just the opposite in fact. It means you see room for improvement and actually want it to improve because you have the belief that it's capable of reaching a higher plane of being. Wise words I heard a long time ago that stuck with me: the opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference. Love and hate are cut from very similar cloth, they both involve passion and deep caring about the subject. To be indifferent is to not care one way or the other.
Who's we?
Listen, there's not an innocent nation on the Earth.
Evil has been done everywhere in every generation.
Why?
Because we're all human.
I love my country, I detest the government.
I'm not better than anyone else just because of where I live but I'm still glad I was born here.
I was never a slave owner.
But I know some now. They're called pimps.
Human traffickers come in all colors.
I'm native American and of European descent.
I didn't make and break over 400 treaties with the native tribes. I'm not responsible for that.
This government... is fucked.
I'm not ashamed of being an American but I detest the government.
The same government that conducted the Tuskegee syphilis study, the same study that was experimenting with drugs on students on the Standing Rock reservation in North Dakota 20 years ago.
It's the government that is the problem. Not my neighbors and not yours.
I'm not the problem and neither are you.
It's a corrupt government that only cares about power so they amp up the rhetoric to keep you and me fighting and they keep taking our shyt that we work for in the form of taxes and giving it to their buddies under the guise of infrastructure programs.
America is an awesome country.
I won't say "best" but we've got a lot to offer but our government is responsible for some messed up shyt and if you and I are fighting over petty bs we'll never fix it.
I’m not an American. I’m from Canada! Although I hate Canada and I’m shameful to be one.
Regardless America it is where it is today because of its past.
Everyone criticizes U. S heavily while their own countries are burning to their ground.
I love American people.
I’ve lived all over Asia and Canada and traveled America has the best culture / people in the world.
I’ve been in Asia for over 5 years you know how many friends I made? Zero!
I was in New Hampshire for 1 year you know how many friends I made?
Was limitless.
Maybe 40/60? I don’t remember.
Remember what Eminem said if you’re not being hated you’re doing something wrong.
What they show on TV is nothing like the experience while living in the country.
I would give up my Canadian passport anytime for American passport or even a green card in a hearth near!
Canada is so shit that I rather live in South Asia with extremely incompetent people.
No because I didn't do those things. I am my own person. I was born here. I don't feel ashamed because people who have things in common with me do bad things lol. That's the issue not the American thing. Stop generalizing the whole world. No one can be 1 of 1 if you generalize everything. It always has to be because you are this you must also be all of this... And we know this isn't true. I am not prideful of America but I am thankful to be here instead of many other places. I am thankful I have many opportunities to live a fulfilling life. Stop looking to the bad and stop wanting to be prideful and be grateful for at least the good you do have.
Nope. What people who are unrelated to me did hundreds of years ago is completely irrelevant. Even if they were related to me, it's still irrelevant.
If you want to get into the whole "sins of thy father" thing, then there is not a person anywhere in the world who is guilt free.
I don't feel guilty for what someone else did. What kind of connection supposedly makes someone guilty? They happen to live in the same country? They happen to be the same race, or gender, or nationality? Isn't that what we call racism? That simply because of a person's race, nationality, religion or gender, that we attach some kind of stigma to them?
If we start attaching guilt to people simply because they share some common trait, then we are opening one hell of a can of worms.
I'm guilty of a lot of things. But I'm not guilty of what someone else did.
Honestly i think we started really strong for the time with plans to get better. Problem is we ultimately sat on our laurels and become stuck 30 years ago at any given time and failed to plan for the future.
We have a strong foundation in our constitution but ultimately dragging our ass with conservative values. That's what conservative policy does. The founding father's was breaking away from the crown and pushing the limits of democracy for the time. At the same time the conservative policy during the revolutionary war was loyalists to the crown.
I see that the Communist teachers and curriculum setters of the US education system have done a thorough job on you.
Any American who is not proud to be an American should GTFO and move to Cuba, North Korea, of Venezuela, where they can experience the sort of Socialism that their Communist teachers and other Democrats want to impose upon the population of the USA.
FYI: I am not an American, but I am a qualified history teacher and I have been a student of history my whole life. You would do well to get some books not recommended by the Communists who have hijacked the education system and find out WHY prior generations did what they did.
Sort of. I was ashamed that another American was acting like an a-hole. I've never been ashamed myself to be an American.
Here's the a-hole story: I was at the Tower of London souvenir shop in London England. A guy wearing cowboy boots and cowboy hat in front of me was buying a souvenir. The cashier told him the cost was 5 pounds, to which he replied in a Southern drawl, "What is that in real money, honey?" She was embarrassed, didn't know what to say, so I tapped him on the shoulder, and said, one American to another, "That's about 8 bucks, cowboy." He glared at me and gave her a 5-pound note. She smiled at me.
u No, because I have no reason to be.
Sure, our nation has some serious sins in its past, and some which it currently commits. No nation or people on this planet is without sins; some are worse than others. However, I will not allow those sins to fill me with anxiety for my own existence and contempt for the land which I gladly call my home.
I might be ashamed of the behavior of some of my fellow citizens and some of our leaders, but they are not me. I will answer for my own sins and scandalous behavior, not theirs.
With respect, you need to grow up.
That's a trick question and short answer is yes I have. I mean back when we stood for good responsible moral Christian values and when we had some respect and pride about us and a somewhat positive reputation I was proud to be an American but in recent years I've started doing my own independent research into the history of this country and our government and what's really going on behind the puppet show of the world stage and we are all being lied to more than you would ever know as American citizens and our government has become a straight tyrannical power-hungry corrupt entity which no longer cares about the people and is so busy versus signal into the world about lgbtq and trying to legalizer abortion and just do so many things that are ignorant and borderline evil that I'm proud of the people of America but I'm not proud of what's been done to the world in America's name
No. I disagree with some of your logic here on several points 1. Stolen land is a false concept what did natives (I am part native also) do to the people that were here? They stole the land from those that were there before them. Everybody stole land back in the day! 2. What country hasn't had moments it is not proud of? 3. We've bailed the world our a few times, we may not be perfect but we've learned from the past and have the balls to stand up to injustice both abroad and on our own shores. If your ashamed to be American you are more than welcome to take your ungrateful ass elsewhere!
No idea what it even means to be an American and I've been here my whole life... not a good sign of our society and culture. You look at divorce rates, look at the length if the average relationship, look at the bickering between Dems and pubs, you look at the narrow mindedness and refusal to change, you see the mixture of religion and politics, you see the asinine leadership, the rates of depression, the stupid work hours, and he amount of people homeless, dependent on big pharma, the amount of junkies, the mental health Crisis, the lack of boarder security, the way we pulled out of Afghanistan, the Iran nuclear deal, yeah it's becoming humiliating to be affiliated with this clown town
You are in a cult. Grow up. You don't know diddly squat about history except some conjecture from some woke-ass moron who is butt-hurt about past events nobody can do a damn thing about. And you have only a thousandth of a piece of information. People in the past weren't stupid and didn't do things for no reason and they weren't trying to be overtly evil. You are trying to imprint woke-cult ideology on to a microsecond of past history. And all this history allows you to bitch about it, in a climate control room, in a computer that's largely made of petroleum and silicon and whine about something you don't know.
And Andrew Jackson was not a genocidal maniac. He wasn't a nice guy, but he didn't just go around killing indians for the hell of it.
The world was built on blood and treasure. And it will be maintained by blood and treasure. Get out of your cult, it will make you stupid.
You of course realise it was pretty inevitable that was going to happen.
if luck had of favoured the Armada, chances are that North America would have fed the gold mines in the South with bodies.
Similar with Seven Year war, you would have been speaking French.
in both cases not a great move for the locals.
They would have the honor of speaking the most beautiful language in the world, mister English
"Have you ever been ashamed to be an American?" asks the *anonymous* poster. LoL
Native Americans were not eradicated from the south. They are still in the south and never left. They go to the same schools and grow up with everyone else.
The Mexican president was committing genocide of White Texans since they were successfully colonizing Texas after being invited by Mexico in previous years. They were also teaching the locals to Read and Write. He was afraid once they could read and Write they would be able to clearly see how corrupt their government and he was... Turns out he was right. They could clearly could see how corrupt his ass was and wanted to leave Mexico.
No. I’m proud actually! Proud of li I g in a nation where many cultures live in. Variety! Proud to live in a nation where we are free to do as we please (as long as we are not hurting anyone). Proud to live in a nation where we are go getters! We get what we want, because we are not the type to not work for it, we understand the value of work ethic. Here in America, we work to live well. We may complain, but we live well.
Your right
The Japanese should be ashamed of themselves. They invaded China
The Germans should be ashamed of themselves. They invaded almost all of Europe
The Chinese should be ashamed of themselves.
They invaded Korea and Vietnam
The British should be ashamed of themselves.
They invaded some of Africa and Europe
The Russians should be ashamed of themselves.
They invaded Bulgaria, Iran, etc.
The Spanish should be ashamed of themselves
They invaded Central and Southern Americas
... yeah we should be ashamed. I'm so ashamed of something I never did 200 years ago. Just like a current day German, Japanese, Chinese, Russian, or Spaniard should be ashamed...
I have Scottish and Irish heritage. I should be ashamed of my Irish side for invading my Scottish side...
My point:
No I'm not ashamed. Nor should anyone else be. Don't let modern education make you feel guilty for actions you never took a part of.
Just saying all nations were "built on stolen land and blood" even if you go way back there was still tribes killing each other to gain control of another area owned by a different tribe. So by that logic everyone should be ashamed.
Just don't celebrate it obviously.
It's a myth that Americans went around killing indians. While its true many were killed in a few battles with the army only a tiny minority were killed by civilians. Americans took over the land by breeding like rabbits not by violence.
I respectfully suggest you read up on your history.
@purplepoppy
I'm surprised you of all people, said this, considering how far-left and anti-American you are.
I'm centre left and it's only the nut job Americans I dislike
@bean2k21 you're the only savage I see here, 47 and you can't even spell your questions in proper grammar! 😂🤣
Look. Some people don't understand the difference between shame and hate. They usually have no shame and plenty of hate, so they don't think there's a difference. They've never known shame.
Most educated people feel ashamed of their nation or species especially at certain moments or when looking back. Of course we can feel pride too. Don't let the truly ignorant get away with calling your emotion 'hate' and assuming it is all consuming and untempered by anything else.
Those people are pathetic.
So? The Sioux pushed the Crow off their land before white folk arrived. One reason Cortez was able to bring down the Aztecs with his small force was that they were hated by other native groups that they enslaved and butchered and so he was able to make allies. Most Black Africans who were captured into slavery weren't caught by white men, they were sold to them by... other Black Africans.
America was always about an ideal, not the very messy reality. The terrible things done in becoming what America is should not be ignored, but the fact is that kind of shit was not unique to it. Education should include these blemishes, BUT in the context of what has been happening in the world for eons. The original Native Americans didn't all just hang around in peaceful harmony.
I'm not ashamed of stuff I had no control over. Everybody is responsible for their own actions. You also have to remember the people that the Americans fought were no saints either and they had their faults. Some of them were even worse. I think people seem to forget that. Overall, I'm proud to be an American (even though at times I've not been proud). One thing I'll also add is that land has been won during war throughout history. Just research how many times land changed hands during World War 2. The world can be a Messy Place and just about everybody has a Sinful Past.
Maybe not full-on shame, but I've been very embarrassed with a few fellow American's behavior at times while overseas during my time in the Navy. Mostly due to Sailors and Alcohol... Definitely had to apologize for drunken rude kids on more than one occasion.
"We aren’t as great as we make ourselves out to be." -- You're like the child of a billionaire, living in a 20 room mansion with maids & olympic swimming pool, saying, "we aren't that great." If you really believe that, then move to the poorest 2nd world country you can find and enjoy. Don't complain when you see people from their moving to the U. S. tho.
Any country in the top 40+ spots has some bad stuff in their past.
This nation was built like any other nation. You’re talking like Native Americans are one group of people who were peace loving hippies who loved green energy and were so in touch with nature. The Native American tribes were never at peace, they used up the land (they didn’t believe they could actually own the land) and moved onto the next land. They constantly fought other tribes, were barbaric in their treatment of other tribes, constantly broke peace treaties with the colonies. So I’m not saying that I’m proud of how we also broke treaties with the American Indians later on and I don’t think they deserved the treatment they got from us up until now and I will not apologize for the freedoms I have now, which is also available to all Native Americans today.
I’m definitely ashamed of it’s history and how it’s racist past is glorified. This land was stolen from natives and it’s wrong to just turn the other way and pretend that never happened.
There really isn’t anything the US can do to change it’s history and undo what it has done wrong. That’s what makes history, history. What I can do is help myself become knowledgeable and aware of it’s past, support minorities in the country, and call out racial inequality when I see it.
Absolutely, the last 4 years when our national embarrassment was President. Here is a traitor to our nation doing what he can to kill as many Americans as possible. Also, ripping families apart, and killing several children. Yet how many Americans backed that piece of trash? very sad.
here is a hint... if your party is actively trying to keep people from voting, you have the wrong party.
No I am not ashamed. Every single nation has a 'national shame' ours is of course and should be slavery.
These people mostly Southern secessionist like Jackson are responsible despite of course many other Northerners like Lincoln, George Washington owning slaves.
I have no doubt that the people elected today will not have the same values as the people in the past, but no country in the past had the same values as today. If you are ashamed to be an American you should not be one and move to a place that is more suited for you. Just because you were potentially born from sinful people does not make you sinful ( I was born from foreign parents in 1999) .
There is no country in the world that is as colorful, as inclusive, and that gives an opportunity as big in America to be successful. We are the only country to where you will not be able to expect a certain race and gender at an Olympics game.
Sorry I meant that I agree * Instead of no doubt
Agreed, that we're no 'saints' but understand the problem lies within our specie's nature not with any one ethnicity or nationality.
Look at how the Mayans and Aztecs warred upon and slaughtered one another, so when the rapacious Spanish Conquistadors virtually exterminated them, who was there WORTHY to root on behalf of? NADA! The marching orders of "Rape, Pillage then Burn" has LONG been the most vicious-of-humanity's anthem.
God, stop being such a fucking fruitcake.
Newsflash, the natives slaughtered each other all the time. There are plenty of mass graves filled with women and children from conflicts before Europeans ever came. Humans kill each other all the time, and they still do. It's not a uniquely American problem. Grow the fuck up.
I'm ashamed to be an American because there's too many shitheads like you disgracing the country.
I kinda was for a while, but then I realized just how much propaganda was pumped into me due to the public school system and I broke out of it.
Now, despite a stolen election later, I'm more patriotic than ever.
2385472385628356 accusations of racism later
From 2016 to 2020 I felt shame for the first time. Watching that ignorant orange moron on the world stage making us look like idiots was hard to take. I can’t imagine that other nations weren’t laughing at us for turning the country over to a guy who couldn’t string together 2 coherent sentences if his life depended on it.
But everything is so much better though with Biden now, right? A man who can't even remember what day of the week it is, and leaves thousands of Americans behind in Afghanistan while pushing racist curriculums onto public schools... I'm glad most Zoomers aren't as short-sighted and foolish as you and OP.
You're right to have that reaction, sadly. I'm from New Zealand and friendly with many people from other nations... all shared the same thought that America had to be a bit fucked to elect him... now USA is very fucked. I prefer Biden but do see that he isn't exactly doing the best either but he took over an absolute shitshow from that orange turd.
Trump got me interested in politics and actually drove me further left. I read Bob Woodward's book about Trump's presidency and that dude is crazy! He's as bad and operates in similar ways to leaders that Americans would usually defy: Putin, Rocketman, Bolsonaro.
The conservatives think Trump made America stronger but it did indeed become the laughing stock of the world.
how many times i must i tell you children. foreign affairs is not a popularity contest. nations don't have reputations. if north korea gets invaded tomorrow by china you bet your ass all our leaders will start going "oh north korea is so good i admire their freedom loving spirit" and everyone will smile and nod
there is no reputation. only interests
@Zafrica Biden is obviously senile and not 100% capable of leading this country but it’s a clear statement on the last President that the country saw him as a better alternative. Both political parties are absolute shit shows. We need new leadership, new parties, and a new vision over here.
is it? or is it a sign the establishment manipulated the election results by hiding information from commoners?
I know the US had an ugly past but I'm not ashamed to be an American
every country has an ugly past. and an ugly future. its human nature
How much traveling have you done and how much have you really studied history?
The history of conquest, subjugation, oppression and slavery has been going on through all human history across all cultures, ethnicities and races. It is not a “white thing” despite what your liberal professor has brainwashed you into believing.
America has built one of the most tolerant and free societies in the world and yet people want to destroy it. Exactly what the fuck are looking for?
To the QA. You need to give more context to your question of WHY you feel embarrassed.
It was the land of free speech until all these tech companies started banning everyone. Now it's just as lame as everywhere else pretty much. The yokels, esp some of the ones on this site are so provincial and uncurious it's not even funny. At least we produced Hunter S Thompson
https://www.youtube.com/embed/updoM-EuHrQ
Could you tell me a country with a better history, suppose Canada had less of the same because of population. But other then that most have had longer bloodier pasts. If you feel shame, feel ashamed of the world. Me, I say as long as we can work together to move forward and make sure our species completes it's biological imperative to survive. Learn from the past then leave it behind.
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I am not American but most of western nations are build on slaves and colonisation and I am not ashamed of that. That is a history I was never personally a part of.
I am more ashamed of bad decisions my government has made in modern times, and would for example be ashamed to have had Trump as a president xD
Never, even during the last ten months I will always be a proud American.
"ethic cleansing"
That about sums up the level of intelligence present in your argument.
America is great because of it's principles, because of it's constitution, not because of the actions of any single individual.
America is great, it would be better if we could drive out the haters.
Considering this country disgusting past of real injustice while trying to cover up all crime our country done, yes I sometimes do feel a little shame of being an American. Plus all of the annoying right people and left people are doing more of a disservice to our country than honestly helping it progress.
The reason I am ashamed is that we are all so damn divided.
Republicans and Democrats, not being able to agree on a single subject cause they all want to kill each other. The thing that makes me ashamed, is that we won't die from an enemy, but ourselves.
You’re not wrong but I’m not ashamed either. There are good things about America too.
Yes, but not for reasons you probably think. I am ashamed of the liberals and everything they have done, especially in the last 20 years. I am ashamed that American schools and universities teach American children and youth to hate their country. I am ashamed that liberal politicians are constantly dividing the nation, pushing for policies of identity and special treatment of certain groups of the population. I am ashamed that the American media is actually anti-American garbage that hates this country. I am ashamed of gay marriage, I am ashamed that gender in this country is no longer a matter of biology or objective reality, but of who feels how. I am ashamed that the whole social system encourages young people to pursue false goals, such as making a career or making money, instead of starting families, to have children. I am ashamed that in this country the feelings of the eternally offended snowflakes are more important than freedom of speech.
Not an American, but I do think America needs a new leader and a new party. Both sides are just fucked up tbh
Considering how the united states is the biggest backwater joke of the word with their grimy mitts in manipulation of the far east making a self created war that screws over thousands of innocent live because the usa sees mor profit in military weapon deals than in peace... yeah, i am kinda ashamed to be of a country that covers itself in the illusion of being a country of acceptance, freedom, and prosperity
Nope i love the fact im American history is history but you can't let it hold you hostage. How does the past were not born into make us ashamed? You read & you learn to not repeat by the past.
I'm not American, so I can't say that I'm ashamed. But I'm shocked to see an American stating these facts. You guys are usually proud of your country and history.
No. I’m proud to be an American. I am very ashamed of how some citizens treat other tax paying citizens though.
Yeah of course... mainly when that fuck face Orange-Turd travelled abroad! (Especially when all the other leaders were over-heard in a huddle, talking shit about Prez. Pussy-Grabber!)
So I guess it’s okay to sniff and kiss 12 year old girls on camera and in front of God if your name is Joe Biden. Also let’s “believe all women” except Tara Reid. Yeah let’s that one fall to the way side. The mass media on only brought that out during the primaries when they thought Biden was going to lose. Funny how that all got muted out quick after he won the primaries.
But again let’s fixate on Trump’s “grab em” comment he made back in 2006 when he was a private citizen who doesn’t know he was being recorded. After all Republican locker room talk is so much worse than democratic candidates being accused of REAL sexual assault. I guess that’s how Trump Derangement Syndrome makes people’s minds operate.
Seriously lady get your head out of your ass. Your 36 years old for Christ’s sake. Hearing grown ass women like you say this drives me nuts.
@globetrotter22 First, I'm not going down 'whataboutism' road with you regarding Biden, because we're not talking about him -- And whatever hair-sniffing kink he may or may not have had, I could care less. It pales in comparison to OrangeTurd's sexual misdeeds.
For the record, I'm not fixated on his "grab 'em" comment. You're reading too much into that. - Prez. Pussy-Grabber is one of the many many colorful names I enjoy using, interchangeably & routinely. And I don't appreciate your lame attempt at dismissing it. I don't give a shit if he was a private citizen, or whatever -- I'm not singling it out by any means, but rather look at it as just one of many, many, many examples of DarthDotard's appalling behavior, & a mere drop in a seething sea of actions which highlight what a piece of shit he is, & has always been. He was a disgusting slick-willy corrupt, sleezy asshole grifter before becoming president, & still is to this day.
You bet your ass I have TDS, a fucking stage 4 malignant case of it -- and rightfully so. Anyone that doesn't have a touch of it, is either blind, retarded, or not paying attention -- and it's relevant to my response to the OP's question, as it directly correlates to when I was ashamed to be an American.
Hearing "grown ass men" try to marginalize or normalize TrumpTard drives me nuts!
“ And whatever hair-sniffing kink he may or may not have had, I could care less. It pales in comparison to OrangeTurd's sexual misdeeds.”
Alright nice talking to you. I guess it’s better to have mass inflation, a border crisis, a severely damaged international reputation in Afghanistan and a struggling economy vs. having the so called “orange Hitler” who actually had the USA in the best shape economically in decades. Yes it’s all about empathy. It’s more about how people behave vs. what they actually get done.
It’s just so weird that Biden’s approval ratings have fallen of a cliff. Weird. So weird.
@Tamera952 also you being 36 years old and saying all that above. Just excellent. Im so proud of where our country is heading.
@globetrotter22 Well for me personally, yes... I'd take all of the above rather than suffer through any more word salad from "Orange-Hitler's" Pie-hole, yes.
Again, this is not an 'either/or" question -- these are not mutually exclusive -- Me having TDS & being ashamed of Pussy Grabber doesn't mean I'm all of a sudden 'choosing' all those other things instead.
So yes let’s choose destroying out economy, destroying our international security, huge inflation, exponentially fucking up the border crisis, etc.
If have a clog in my drain I’ll hire a plumber to fix. His job is to fix the problem and I do not give a shit about his personality. If he’s a nice guy then great. But I’ll take an asshole who gets the job done vs. a senile, dottering weak ass old fuck who often forgets what state he is in. He’s pushing all this “build back better” insanity just because he wants a legacy like FDR. So essentially he’s putting us all into trillions of dollars into more debt to spend money on what the majority of Americans don’t need or want.
Again you are 36 years old. For the love of God you should have a better understanding of what really matters in society and the economy cuts through everything. Maybe you are unemployed freeloader who expects the government to pay for everything. Well I got news for you 1) the government will eventually run out or money (people who do work will leave because of onerous taxation 2) nobody will ever have any real respect for you.
Now if you really do work than you should be furious at Biden’s legislation. There is a reason his poll numbers have fallen of a cliff. Most Americans are seeing that “talk is cheap”. If the 2020 presidential election was held right now Trump would win. I can almost guarantee you that the Republicans are going to win again in 2024.
It was pretty embarrassing back with Sadaam and the WMDs and 9/11 and George Bush and Obama and Biden. Not ashamed but definitely embarrassed.
Only ashamed that liberals are here that constantly lie.
Oh, the poor natives that frequently warred with each other and killed each other for resources and took other tribes women as prizes. Oh boo hoo.
Lmao, are you fucking serious? Oh no, we've gotten violent in name of national interest. That's not something every single nation on the face of the planet has done or anything.
America is a third world country with a gucci belt. I am from a middleeastern country and i see not much difference between the uncivilized people from my home country and and from america. the only difference is the religion lol. This is so weird to me.
With the exception of every third inhabitant in America being obese and inhumanly medical bills you folks in America live like the best on this planet uncontested.
I've been in America twice now.
countries like Russia and China and whatever-stan are like gulags.
January 6th made it extremely difficult. thats for sure. Trumps whole presidency too.
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