If MGTOW and the Incel community issues do not exist, then why is their membership base growing?

[KlinkyCoder]

The groups who identify as MGTOW or Incel online, if all the problems they are complaining about and say needing corrected doesn't exist like a lot of people say, then why is it that they seem to be growing more in terms of popularity or membership.

If a whole society doesn't believe a subculture is legitimate yet the subculture is growing in popularity or members, does this not say more about the society as a whole instead of just the subculture?

[slatyb]

Subcultures aren't "legitimate", they either exist or they don't. There some men calling themselves Incels. But they are the cause of their own problems, and when they stop blaming others and take some responsibility, their lives will improve. AFAICT what most need is some psychological counseling and maybe a dating coach.

[MCheetah]

I support MGTOW, but I don't support the (aggressive) incel community. Please don't lump them into the same category. MGTOW take control of their own fate, while incels blame everyone but themselves for not getting laid (and apparently "don't count" escorts or paying for sex).

[Anonymous]

incels are mentally ill people who need psychological counselling. They are voluntarily making themselves celibate through insane behavior. I don't know what those letters mean.

[MCheetah]

MGTOW ('migtowel') = Men Going Their Own Way. Men who choose not to date or marry anymore because statistically, most women are likely to hurt them then benefit them. MGTOW's and incels are not the same group of men, however, and incels tend to be far more bitter and depressing.

[Soteris]

For the same reason as the community issues of the Nazi party is fucking wrong and stupid yet their popularity sure skyrocketed and their membership numbers increased. Does not make the Nazis any more reasonable or just flat out wrong.

[joeldalton]

The internet isn’t real life.