I find that men speak up and negotiate and females tend to just accept whatever is given. Social work isn't low paying though if you know what branch to get into I’m sorry but I demand higher pay at interviews like the worst you can do is say no and I just keep looking. One of my past coworkers found out that my salary was higher and we were both straight out of grad school. Speak up!!!
I’m sorry you think you have it the worst and that nobody else every sees any prejudice or racism. Maybe that’s why you aren’t fit to wear the pants like men actually used to.
Looks like an article that’s written by someone who has no idea what they are talking about. The link you posted is wrote by a nobody and never lists any sources for their claims.
@QA after doing a little background research of the author, Jim Goad, I’ve found that he’s a criminal and a nut job. Interesting how you’d listen to everything this loser says and taking his word for it.
@captain_voidwalker the very first word in your new link says “opinion” I honestly could careless about opinion pieces. Learn how to find a source of facts. Dumbass 😆
It generally does. It's been explained more and more times, but you can't make feminazis think. They are not capable of that. Just as BLM, they only exist to try and get the upper hand on society.
Am I the only one that personally doesn’t give a shit what others around me make? Like I have a goal for myself. I don’t care if a man makes more than me 🤷🏻♀️
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The only wage gap that exists is women being paid more then men for the EXACT SAME WORK when you control for ALL VARIABLES. MEN are the ones that are being discriminated against, and we should all be angry and resentful of this and take any opportunity we get to strike back.
Everywhere I have worked women made same amount as men. Most jobs are those jobs. Answer : Bull Shit. Like voting, they can vote , they just want their vote to count twice. They don't want equal rights , they want more rights.
Yes there is. It’s better though. Please see my example. My company is in the middle of a lawsuit over it. Everyone in charge knew it was happening too.
@t-8900 well they keep doing it though. They lost a few years back too. So obviously legal or not it’s still happening. You can’t keep denying that nobody except people who look like you have a hard time. The most you do, the more privilege you have because you don’t have to face the truth. God help all of us.
@Cheechee4me I've got no idea what you are talking about. where I worked women got positions over men to meet quotas. I had been in the company for 7 years and girls got bumped up ahead of me even though I was proven to be the faster and more productive member of the team. And might i add I was also the most request employee in the store and thats a damn FACT! Your mileage may vary but in my area affirmative action is a VERY real thing.
Thats why the last 2 years on the job i half assed it because I was putting in overtime, working all the holidays, unloading the trucks while the girls dicked around on their phones texting and laughing and teasing each other. It was insufferable and I ended up leaving the company with a hefty $8,000 severance pay because they wanted to avoid a lawsuit over a dispute. I even got to keep my health coverage for 2 years after leaving. So yeah they were totally in the wrong and they lost a guy who busted his ass and kept regulars coming back.
Shortly after I left apparently a lot of customers did too since the prices were higher at the store I worked at anyways. I remember when I was on register on Christmas eve one year i had a line of people probably 9 or 10 deep. Other registers were opened but people refused to use them because they wanted to talk to me as I checked them out at the register.
@t-8900 no sorry. I no longer believe you at this point. If you don’t even recall what I’m talking about. I know for a fact some businesses around here will not hire women, they told me they didn’t. I know some won’t hire blacks or Mexicans too. I admit bad things can happen to white men. How dare you become blinded that only men get discriminated against. Shame on you for suggesting blacks are not discriminated against, how dare you suggest that native Americans aren’t. Shame on you for suggesting any group of people do not suffer discrimination and as long as there are people like you, people will continue to be discriminated against in large numbers. You are the downfall of humanity and everyone is paying for it.
@Cheechee4me haha I wasn't you were acting like it was only women that get discriminated against. What you believe is irrelevant. Sounds to me like you just want victimhood points and dont care about anyone else.
"Shame on you for suggesting blacks are not discriminated against, how dare you suggest that native Americans aren’t."
i didn't you racist clown. I never said anything about race. We never once talked about race. The context of affirmative action was about gender. Now you're just bouncing around to dodge the subject.
" Shame on you for suggesting any group of people do not suffer discrimination and as long as there are people like you, people will continue to be discriminated against in large numbers."
You're seriously this crazy at 26 jumping from one subject to another? Dear Lord you are really in the hive mind. I grew up in a literal hood lol. I didn't notice white privilege while living a life of poverty in a broken home with drive bys a hookers in the streets. OH YOU dont believe it BECAUSE I'm white. So who's generalizing? I never did but you have tons ya racist nutjob!
@FinalFantasyBro ya man racists risk their lives in the deep inner cities to make sure people are fed. They sign death warrants in case their asses get shot. They risk going into drug infested areas to be father and brother figures to children of other races. Klansmen and Nazis are totally lining up in droves to do that!
True, I always like your way of thinking. I also never understand why some people want to murder others and claim it justice that is more the opposite of justice.
@Cheechee4me wtf are you talking about? You really are a lunatic aren't you? Tell me where I brought up race before your looney rambling about race came up? Everyone here was talking about gender and wages. No one said a damn thing about race but you. You can't quote me, I rest my case.
@t-8900 see exactly you don’t read and you don’t comprehend. Go ahead and rest your case. You weren’t doing anything positive to change things for the better anyways.
@t-8900 you’re the same is what I said, if you actually would have read what I said. I still mean it too. You’re the exact same as one. You call me a lunatic because you know I’m right.
@Cheechee4me still waiting for an example. You've got nothing. One example will due. If you can't give one you've got no argument. You called me a racist so the burden of proof is on you to prove it. Also claiming that i said that no one but me struggles? I want proof of that one too. Exact quotes and if you can't support the claim (which you can't) you're just a bumbling clown and you know it. Do you dye your armpit hair purple, red, or blue?
@t-8900 I did give you an answer. Now go hang out with victims who point their finger and pretend nobody else gets discriminated against. Oh you bet I have an argument and it’s about time people start listening. Up until I called you out- you made out like men only get discriminated against. Just like slave traders thought they were discriminated against when their noses got rubbed in it. You’re no better if you continue to be blind. What a sick cold time we live in.
@Cheechee4me "I did give you an answer" I didn't ask for an opinion piece I asked for you to quote me. Still waiting by the way.
"Up until I called you out- you made out like men only get discriminated against." No I didn't I pointed out discrimination happens to everyone. You just internalized it as you did because you have an agenda and your eyes are closed.
"Just like slave traders thought they were discriminated against when their noses got rubbed in it." My conscience is clean. My family migrated over to the USA in 1952 after beating the sh*t out of nazis and Commies.
"You’re no better if you continue to be blind."
No one turned a blind eye, not once. I gave examples based on lived experience and suddenly you got all defensive as if it was a personal attack, which it wasn't.
^All examples of how to quote people in their own words
@t-8900 for someone with such little privilege you sure aren’t very understanding of anyone else. You don’t even want to know what my childhood was like. I’m sorry you had a hard time. So have I. That made me even more caring to others while it makes others selfish.
How can you even say I'm selfish? Do you realize the whole issue is you jumping to conclusions. The whole thing was me staying on topic. I read about your lost, about being raped but your comment fixated so much on gender and race. And you have these need apparently to dominate a man too. Likely as a cope to regain some control and I get it! But it's not a healthy mindset. A woman of color raped me. But do I attack minorities over it? Hell no! People are people and idgaf ab race one bit. I'm talking to a woman of color right now! I'm completely infatuated by her! I see her as a peer, not above or below me! You read my story so if anyone would be toxic it should be me. But I don't hate women! I need a woman in my life! I need her so I can be vulnerable! I need her love and I need her touch! Don't assume things about me l. I grew up around a highly mixed community. I lived in a shabby town house. Both my neighbors were black. One was a Muslim family and I he other Christian. I spent time among newly arrived immigrants. One was a Shia family from Tehran. I spent so much time with them helping teach them English, helping them pass their tests and helping them study. They basically adopted me! I get along with pe from every background and most of my friends were Hispanic and black! Jesse, Danny, Nunzio, Alphonso, Ahmad, Javier, Victor, DeAndre, Hector, these were the names of my main group of friends! Don't act like I wasn't slumming it right along side them! Recognize an Ally when you see one and stop attacking everyone with a different perspective and lived experience. The story about my job was 💯 true! My time doing volunteer in Riverside in downtown Wilmington was real! I'm not a liar! So turn it down about 3 notches And if you'll excuse me I'm talking to a very special lady ATM so g2g bye
@t-8900 sorry didn’t even give you the respect of reading your tirade anymore. I gave you enough respect of listening and actually reading what you said with the assumption you actually stopped and thought before you typed. You didn’t though. So screw you. I mean every word I said. Just because your mistreated doesn’t mean you can just assume everyone besides you has a perfect life. That’s why the world is falling apart. No understand, no compassion for anyone but yourself.
Hmm whatever. Next time don't open up with insults and maybe people will be more likely than hear you out. Oh and also actually explain your position and why you have time since you did not of that it just looks... I'll be nice and say unprofessional
@t-8900 keep telling yourself everyone victimizes you and that nobody else has it any worse. It’s a common things anymore. That’s why our world is crumbling. I me mine. Me and myself and I.
@t-8900 sorry still didn’t read your response. I have a feeling subarugirl is going to get tired of your silliness and selfishness though notifying her at all odd hours of the night. You’re spiraling out for a reason- because I was right. Now work on being a better person.
@t-8900 you proved my point for sticking up for a guy who very clearly is a prime example of who I’m talking about too. Yep nobody has it worse than you. Lol weak minded
Aren’t you working in the home primarily? I believe you said your husband is a doctor. Yeah until you get out into the workforce full time and long enough, you’ll see desparages at times- depends on the company too though.
@Cheechee4me honey I have been working at a car dealership full time for the past 6 years. (Apart from maternity leave) on average, the woman working at the dealership make more than the men. Before that I worked as a lifeguard, since women were more likely to be swim instructors and stick around longer, they made more than their male counter parts.
Like I said- depend on the company- companies are just like people. Some discriminate, some don’t. But to deny discrimination happens is pretty naive and thoughtless. Just saying.
Okay you’ve been at one company. That means you aren’t qualified to make such blanket statements about all companies. Especially considering there are many studies specifically about same job same duty wage disparages. now grow up and stop silencing people are discriminated against by saying it doesn’t happen.
All the smart feminists that harp on it already know. However, they don't care because they are appealing to women that are too stupid to know and that is most women.
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Stop wasting your time trying to convince people to quit victimizing themselves. Their egos won't let them see the truth. Just carry on with your life and let them fall by the wayside
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I find that men speak up and negotiate and females tend to just accept whatever is given. Social work isn't low paying though if you know what branch to get into I’m sorry but I demand higher pay at interviews like the worst you can do is say no and I just keep looking. One of my past coworkers found out that my salary was higher and we were both straight out of grad school. Speak up!!!
Easy fella, you go around showing facts like that and you'll be called a woman hater.
Yeah we all know why there's a "wage gap" it's cause different jobs pay different, feminist just hate that there photography degree is usless.
I’m sorry you think you have it the worst and that nobody else every sees any prejudice or racism. Maybe that’s why you aren’t fit to wear the pants like men actually used to.
@Cheechee4me what you you want?
What?
Looks like an article that’s written by someone who has no idea what they are talking about. The link you posted is wrote by a nobody and never lists any sources for their claims.
@QA after doing a little background research of the author, Jim Goad, I’ve found that he’s a criminal and a nut job. Interesting how you’d listen to everything this loser says and taking his word for it.
@captain_voidwalker
@captain_voidwalker the very first word in your new link says “opinion” I honestly could careless about opinion pieces. Learn how to find a source of facts. Dumbass 😆
It generally does. It's been explained more and more times, but you can't make feminazis think. They are not capable of that. Just as BLM, they only exist to try and get the upper hand on society.
Am I the only one that personally doesn’t give a shit what others around me make? Like I have a goal for myself. I don’t care if a man makes more than me 🤷🏻♀️
The only wage gap that exists is women being paid more then men for the EXACT SAME WORK when you control for ALL VARIABLES. MEN are the ones that are being discriminated against, and we should all be angry and resentful of this and take any opportunity we get to strike back.
I'd also add this source:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748704415104576250672504707048
Everywhere I have worked women made same amount as men. Most jobs are those jobs. Answer : Bull Shit. Like voting, they can vote , they just want their vote to count twice. They don't want equal rights , they want more rights.
I did my entire thesis in college explaining why feminism is bullsh*t. This was in 2016, too.
There isn't a wage gap in the US any more... but there was for a long time.
Yes there is. It’s better though. Please see my example. My company is in the middle of a lawsuit over it. Everyone in charge knew it was happening too.
@Cheechee4me right a lawsuit which means it wasn't legal and thus isn't the norm.
@t-8900 well they keep doing it though. They lost a few years back too. So obviously legal or not it’s still happening. You can’t keep denying that nobody except people who look like you have a hard time. The most you do, the more privilege you have because you don’t have to face the truth. God help all of us.
@Cheechee4me I've got no idea what you are talking about. where I worked women got positions over men to meet quotas. I had been in the company for 7 years and girls got bumped up ahead of me even though I was proven to be the faster and more productive member of the team. And might i add I was also the most request employee in the store and thats a damn FACT! Your mileage may vary but in my area affirmative action is a VERY real thing.
Thats why the last 2 years on the job i half assed it because I was putting in overtime, working all the holidays, unloading the trucks while the girls dicked around on their phones texting and laughing and teasing each other. It was insufferable and I ended up leaving the company with a hefty $8,000 severance pay because they wanted to avoid a lawsuit over a dispute. I even got to keep my health coverage for 2 years after leaving. So yeah they were totally in the wrong and they lost a guy who busted his ass and kept regulars coming back.
Shortly after I left apparently a lot of customers did too since the prices were higher at the store I worked at anyways. I remember when I was on register on Christmas eve one year i had a line of people probably 9 or 10 deep. Other registers were opened but people refused to use them because they wanted to talk to me as I checked them out at the register.
@t-8900 no sorry. I no longer believe you at this point. If you don’t even recall what I’m talking about. I know for a fact some businesses around here will not hire women, they told me they didn’t. I know some won’t hire blacks or Mexicans too. I admit bad things can happen to white men. How dare you become blinded that only men get discriminated against. Shame on you for suggesting blacks are not discriminated against, how dare you suggest that native Americans aren’t. Shame on you for suggesting any group of people do not suffer discrimination and as long as there are people like you, people will continue to be discriminated against in large numbers. You are the downfall of humanity and everyone is paying for it.
@Cheechee4me haha I wasn't you were acting like it was only women that get discriminated against. What you believe is irrelevant. Sounds to me like you just want victimhood points and dont care about anyone else.
"Shame on you for suggesting blacks are not discriminated against, how dare you suggest that native Americans aren’t."
i didn't you racist clown. I never said anything about race. We never once talked about race. The context of affirmative action was about gender. Now you're just bouncing around to dodge the subject.
" Shame on you for suggesting any group of people do not suffer discrimination and as long as there are people like you, people will continue to be discriminated against in large numbers."
You're seriously this crazy at 26 jumping from one subject to another? Dear Lord you are really in the hive mind. I grew up in a literal hood lol. I didn't notice white privilege while living a life of poverty in a broken home with drive bys a hookers in the streets. OH YOU dont believe it BECAUSE I'm white. So who's generalizing? I never did but you have tons ya racist nutjob!
@DizzyDesii @FinalFantasyBro I'm apparently a racist now.
t-8900 That is definitely hilarious, because you are definitely cool to be a racist.
@FinalFantasyBro ya man racists risk their lives in the deep inner cities to make sure people are fed. They sign death warrants in case their asses get shot. They risk going into drug infested areas to be father and brother figures to children of other races. Klansmen and Nazis are totally lining up in droves to do that!
True, I always like your way of thinking. I also never understand why some people want to murder others and claim it justice that is more the opposite of justice.
@Cheechee4me quote one racist thing I said. I'll wait
@Cheechee4me fact: I've done more for PoC than you ever have. Sit down girl you're clueless.
@Cheechee4me wtf are you talking about? You really are a lunatic aren't you? Tell me where I brought up race before your looney rambling about race came up? Everyone here was talking about gender and wages. No one said a damn thing about race but you. You can't quote me, I rest my case.
@t-8900 see exactly you don’t read and you don’t comprehend. Go ahead and rest your case. You weren’t doing anything positive to change things for the better anyways.
@t-8900 whenever someone calls someone a lunatic like that, just shows that person is likely right. Shame on you. Think before you type.
@Cheechee4me you called me a racist to open up with. So yeah you're a lunatic, cya.
@t-8900 you’re the same is what I said, if you actually would have read what I said. I still mean it too. You’re the exact same as one. You call me a lunatic because you know I’m right.
@Cheechee4me still waiting for an example. You've got nothing. One example will due. If you can't give one you've got no argument. You called me a racist so the burden of proof is on you to prove it. Also claiming that i said that no one but me struggles? I want proof of that one too. Exact quotes and if you can't support the claim (which you can't) you're just a bumbling clown and you know it. Do you dye your armpit hair purple, red, or blue?
@t-8900 I did give you an answer. Now go hang out with victims who point their finger and pretend nobody else gets discriminated against. Oh you bet I have an argument and it’s about time people start listening. Up until I called you out- you made out like men only get discriminated against. Just like slave traders thought they were discriminated against when their noses got rubbed in it. You’re no better if you continue to be blind. What a sick cold time we live in.
@Cheechee4me "I did give you an answer" I didn't ask for an opinion piece I asked for you to quote me. Still waiting by the way.
"Up until I called you out- you made out like men only get discriminated against."
No I didn't I pointed out discrimination happens to everyone. You just internalized it as you did because you have an agenda and your eyes are closed.
"Just like slave traders thought they were discriminated against when their noses got rubbed in it."
My conscience is clean. My family migrated over to the USA in 1952 after beating the sh*t out of nazis and Commies.
"You’re no better if you continue to be blind."
No one turned a blind eye, not once. I gave examples based on lived experience and suddenly you got all defensive as if it was a personal attack, which it wasn't.
^All examples of how to quote people in their own words
My receipts:
This was to a black single mother: How to deal with a single mother as a man ↗
This was my grandfather's lesson to me: My Late Grandfather's Message Towards Racism and Interracial/Interfaith Relationships ↗
This was my childhood: A Look Into My Childhood (Long Read and not for the feint of heart) ↗
please give me a refund for my privilege please. It appears I've never gotten to cash in on it.
@t-8900 for someone with such little privilege you sure aren’t very understanding of anyone else. You don’t even want to know what my childhood was like. I’m sorry you had a hard time. So have I. That made me even more caring to others while it makes others selfish.
How can you even say I'm selfish? Do you realize the whole issue is you jumping to conclusions. The whole thing was me staying on topic. I read about your lost, about being raped but your comment fixated so much on gender and race. And you have these need apparently to dominate a man too. Likely as a cope to regain some control and I get it! But it's not a healthy mindset. A woman of color raped me. But do I attack minorities over it? Hell no! People are people and idgaf ab race one bit. I'm talking to a woman of color right now! I'm completely infatuated by her! I see her as a peer, not above or below me! You read my story so if anyone would be toxic it should be me. But I don't hate women! I need a woman in my life! I need her so I can be vulnerable! I need her love and I need her touch! Don't assume things about me l. I grew up around a highly mixed community. I lived in a shabby town house. Both my neighbors were black. One was a Muslim family and I he other Christian. I spent time among newly arrived immigrants. One was a Shia family from Tehran. I spent so much time with them helping teach them English, helping them pass their tests and helping them study. They basically adopted me! I get along with pe from every background and most of my friends were Hispanic and black! Jesse, Danny, Nunzio, Alphonso, Ahmad, Javier, Victor, DeAndre, Hector, these were the names of my main group of friends! Don't act like I wasn't slumming it right along side them! Recognize an Ally when you see one and stop attacking everyone with a different perspective and lived experience. The story about my job was 💯 true! My time doing volunteer in Riverside in downtown Wilmington was real! I'm not a liar! So turn it down about 3 notches
And if you'll excuse me I'm talking to a very special lady ATM so g2g bye
@t-8900 sorry didn’t even give you the respect of reading your tirade anymore. I gave you enough respect of listening and actually reading what you said with the assumption you actually stopped and thought before you typed. You didn’t though. So screw you. I mean every word I said. Just because your mistreated doesn’t mean you can just assume everyone besides you has a perfect life. That’s why the world is falling apart. No understand, no compassion for anyone but yourself.
Hmm whatever. Next time don't open up with insults and maybe people will be more likely than hear you out. Oh and also actually explain your position and why you have time since you did not of that it just looks... I'll be nice and say unprofessional
@t-8900 keep telling yourself everyone victimizes you and that nobody else has it any worse. It’s a common things anymore. That’s why our world is crumbling. I me mine. Me and myself and I.
No one said any of that
Seek professional help, dear Lord!
@t-8900 sorry still didn’t read your response. I have a feeling subarugirl is going to get tired of your silliness and selfishness though notifying her at all odd hours of the night. You’re spiraling out for a reason- because I was right. Now work on being a better person.
@t-8900 you proved my point for sticking up for a guy who very clearly is a prime example of who I’m talking about too. Yep nobody has it worse than you. Lol weak minded
@t-8900 hahahahaha I love being proven right. Hahahaha oh god.
What are you still messaging me? When I said get a shrink I didn't mean I was volunteering you absolute nut! 🤣
@t-8900 hahahaha encore encore!!! Do it again so everyone will know hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
At this point I'm just reporting ☺️
You're breaking terms of service with harassment and trolling. Both are not allowed on the site. Know the rules.
@t-8900 @cheechee4me okay you’re both done. If you still want to argue take it to your DMs
Aren’t you working in the home primarily? I believe you said your husband is a doctor. Yeah until you get out into the workforce full time and long enough, you’ll see desparages at times- depends on the company too though.
@Cheechee4me honey I have been working at a car dealership full time for the past 6 years. (Apart from maternity leave) on average, the woman working at the dealership make more than the men. Before that I worked as a lifeguard, since women were more likely to be swim instructors and stick around longer, they made more than their male counter parts.
Like I said- depend on the company- companies are just like people. Some discriminate, some don’t. But to deny discrimination happens is pretty naive and thoughtless. Just saying.
Okay you’ve been at one company. That means you aren’t qualified to make such blanket statements about all companies. Especially considering there are many studies specifically about same job same duty wage disparages. now grow up and stop silencing people are discriminated against by saying it doesn’t happen.
@Cheechee4me I’m not saying that it doesn’t happen, I’m saying that it isn’t the norm, like it was 50 years ago…
Stop trying to convince these White women that they aren't victims, they would never listen...
Seems your source is biased against paying women equally, so...
All the smart feminists that harp on it already know. However, they don't care because they are appealing to women that are too stupid to know and that is most women.
Stop wasting your time trying to convince people to quit victimizing themselves. Their egos won't let them see the truth. Just carry on with your life and let them fall by the wayside
Well yeah, it isn't sexism, and when it is they're usually sued because that's illegal so on the basis on what is legal and isn't, then yes.
With all due respect, this a biased way of seeing the gender wage gap. It's not telling the whole story.
Of course it is you're just am uninformed idiot.
@Hallo626262 Who the hell you calling an idiot?
Its all about the votes and the money. Even the ones who know it's dalse going along if they think they can gain something
plus women’s ability to make money has no effect on their ability to get laid, why would they work as hard as us if they don’t have to?
All this has nothing to do with the racist, sexist wage gap.
It's exactly right.