*also the pic isn’t mine, i just thought it was cute and went with the question
What are your unfiltered opinions/thoughts on black women?
*also the pic isn’t mine, i just thought it was cute and went with the question
For context, I'm a Black man, so I do care about the community. What is my unflitered opinion of Black women?
See, I believe they should do better. I believe they can better, but I'm disappointed in what's going on today. Black women have befriended White feminists and left the Black man stranded. All the talk about a patriarchy that doesn't exist, since more than 50% of households in the Black community are that of single mothers, but they still blame the patriarchy. What patriarchy? Anytime a Black man wants to give words of constructive criticism, he's seen as "bashing" Black women. Anytime he says don't sleep around, he's a sexist misogynistic asshole. Why? Anytime he asks them to prioritize relationships and not work, he's seen as controlling. However, god forbid he decides to not marry a Black woman, he would be called a colorist, self-hating coon and all of these words.
Why do I say what I say? Believe it or not sisters, Black men want what's best for you, you just don't see it. You get your dating advice from your single friends. Why don't you marry those friends of yours instead? It doesn't make any sense why you think attracting a Black man means you shouldn't give a shit what he thinks. When we talk about attitude, we are talking about the combative and argumentative nature of a lot of sisters, which is not cute at all. When we don't tolerate it, all you say is "you can't handle a strong woman". I don't know about you, but "handling" a woman to me sounds like domestic violence, which isn't something I plan to take part in. A lot of sisters are out of control, and they don't want to submit in relationships, because they "got their own" whatever that means. They're afraid of submitting to the wrong man, even though instead of living in fear, they should learn the signs that someone is a good person or a bad person. I can actually give you some: has a job, marriage-minded, religious with a good moral compass. How hard can that be Black women? A lot of them think those men are boring, so they finesse them for the guys that are players.
Then, let's talk about the out-of-wedlock birth rate. 55% of Black men are single and childless and 32% are married. That leaves 13% of Black men who are single with children. That could be from a previous marriage, or out-of-wedlock. For the sake of argument, let's say 13% out-of-wedlock. 75% of children in the Black community are born out-of-wedlock. So, you want to tell me that 13% of Black men are inpregnating all of those Black women? C'mon, something doesn't sound right at all. You know a guy has 3 baby mothers, yet you still become his 4th one. Those 55% single and childless guys are watching closely and paying attention.
I for one would want to be married to a Black woman at the end of the day, but you need to listen to what we have to say. You can't have it your way all the time if you want to be married. Don't listen to feminist Becky, she's sad Brad left her for Stacy, and most definitely not boss chick Laquisha that thinks she doesn't need a man, and says "Black men ain't shit", because Black men make an average of 42k, 64% of which are middle-class earners, so they definitely are prodctive. Words of advice? You are still young. Don't sleep around, chose quality friends, work on self-improvement, learn what to look for in a man and let go of the destructive "Black men hate us" mentality when we are only telling you what we want from you. Black men deal with enough already, we don't need more chaos.
Black men seem to hate black women way more than Asian men hate Asian women?
I’m dating anyone who treats me right, idc about the race. But you have no idea how it’s like to have to grow up hearing people make jokes about you having “ugly nappy hair” and always wanting to bleach my skin and be a different race because of the hatred I get just for existing as a black women?
Black women aren’t friends to white feminists, you would know that if you actually paid attention to us. Black woken are more like to statistically be abused by our partners than other women, we deal with SA and rape more often than other women statistically yet black men think we’re just complaining for nothing. It’s so hypocritical and don’t ever say shit about how we’ve abandoned black men
We’ve always been there. Black women are still the least likely to date outside their race yet black men are the ones that have abandoned us for white women/Asian women/Etc. Do you know how many black men I’ve seen that would rather date an ugly ass white girl than a pretty black girl? Too many, and they almost always lie and say black women have an attitude problem yet their white wife tries to act like a bw half the time looking like woahvicky or something: black men need to do better and address their mistreatment of black women, we’ve been fighting for you when it comes to black men’s experience with racism but when are you guys fighting for us when it comes to sexism?
1) The Asian community and Black community are culturally different. Black people are more vocal and confrontational, and if you call that "hating", that's your issue. Asian women if anything are the one's who hate on Asian men, not vice versa.
2) Date whoever, nobody cares. Just don't complain when others do it.
3) Growing up with "Ugly Nappy Hair" as you call it? Like dark skin brothers don't get bullied by Black girls? Dusty this, ugly that. I have friends who went through it, so I saw it first hand. I'm a brownskin brother, so I'm in the middle. Light skin dudes don't have it easy. They're called "weak" or "pussy" or "soft". And don't get me started on the dudes that didn't play basketball, or listen to hip hop or speak with AAVE. Those dudes were referred to as "acting white" by those "queens". You have a victimhood mindset, but the world is a cold place, and if you don't adjust, that's your problem.
4) Yes they are. It's everywhere. Black women can care less about the Black struggle, they instead chose to embrace feminism, and what has that done for them? White women complain about quote-on-quote "system issues" like the gender wage gap (spoiler alert: it doesn't exist), hiring more women and so on. Black women cannot blame that on Black men, because we don't run the country. We're just as much in the shit, if not worse, but we ARE NOT COMPLAINING. Black men are making 42k despite having less degrees than Black women, who on average make 28k a year. More of us are incarcerated, and an average expectancy of 69 years, the lowest of all race and gender groups. We are not complaining half as nearly as y'all do. Also, Black men face DV at a rate of 40%, the highest of all men. Who is it mostly perpetrated by? Black women, but of course we're not gonna talk about that. And that's the cases that are included, some suffer in silence. Also, let's not forget that Black men are amongst the highest group for being incarcerated while innocent, at 43% according to the national registry of exonerations. Mostly for serious crimes like sexual assualt, murder and drug crimes. So you're gonna tell me that Black women don't put innocent Black men in jail? Brian Banks and Tupac Shakur are high-profile examples, but it happens a lot to to the average Joe.
5) "Abandoned by Black men". Your body, your choice, right? 32 different forms of birth control, abortion and adoption on the table, and then we're to blame? If Black women have the choice of giving birth, they shouldn't complain about being abandoned if the guy didn't agree to becoming a father. Too many guys out there have a one-nigh-stand with a girl, give her money for an abortion, only for her to keep the money AND the baby, and put him on child support. Then, don't get me started on toxic baby mothers. If a Black man who planned to have a baby and it doesn't work out with a girl breaks up with her, she can prevent him from seeing his child. Are we not gonna talk about that? How many cases where Black fathers have had to fight for custody in court to get joint custody from a bitter baby momma? Too many to count. Just because he does want to be with you, doesn't mean he doesn't want the kid. A lot of these women lie to their children about their father so they can resent them. Are we not gonna talk about that?
6) Context matters: "least likely to date outside of our race" isn't the trophy. If you are not being competitive and trying to adhere to the market, you will be left out. Period. Black men tell y'all to not be loud, tattoos, weave, nails, attitude, argumentative, and to be feminine and listen. You don't want to LISTEN. Wtf are we supposed to do then? You and I come from 2 different worlds, and my values are very different from yours. I was raised to wait for marriage, and that's something I believe should be in our community. Black women have pushed for sexual liberation, so they can get used by whoever, and then 3 kids later they want to marry a man. No honey, that's not how it works. I look for very specific values, and so do a lot of Black men, but of course that's something you don't want to talk about. I gave you words of advice, it wasn't just criticism. What did you do? Complain and moan. Where have Black men abandoned y'all for White women? Lmfao, Black/White marriages are like 9%, with the highest divorce rate of all. White women are either a leftist feminist, or a right wing racist. No in between. The grass isn't greener on the other side. Asian women? Blasian marriage is less than 1%. Asian women usually go for White men, as they don't find Black men attractive and Black men don't find them attractive either. The truth is that if you were really high quality women like you claim, you wouldn't have a shortage in marriages. You are least likely to marry outside of your race, because non-Black men don't like you that much. Just read the comments!
7) How many have you seen? I can flip this around, you know? Black women usually go for a "Wigga" or a Bum when they date outside. If he's not a bum, she probably out-earns him. Look at Serena Williams and Loni Love.
8) Black men don't need to fix shit. We're tired as can ever be. "Fighting for y'all with racism" you say it like it's a favor. When Breonna Taylor was murdered by cops, Black men stood up and demonstrated on the streets for her to get justice. Similar with Ma'khia Bryant. Truth of the matter is, you didn't do it for Black men, but because you share the same skin color. There was all the noise about "Black women aren't protected", even though most police murder victims are BLACK MEN. If you truly gave a shit, you wouldn't wait until someone dies, you would solve the problem from the jump by working on fixing out-of-wedlock pregnancies, because kids that are raised by single mothers are more likely to die. Black women think they have the problem if both race and gender, but we can apply it to Black men. MEN are seen as more dangerous, and are more likely to be incarcerated or killed. BLACK MEN are seen as more dangerous than White men, and are thus 2.5× likely to be killed by Police than White men. Black men are more likely to be killed than Black women by Police, so miss me with the bullshit. This IS a gender issue, but you want us to "help you with sexism" when you are less likely to serve a full sentence. Right.
You have chosen your path, so embrace it. I react with common sense, you react with emotions "everyone hates us" crap. You are responsible for your own actions. If you don't fit the stereotype, cool, but from you replies to everyone, you most definitely do. You ask for "unflitered thoughts" and then here you are bitching and moaning. I was being diplomatic in the first answer, but you never learn. You answered some other guy with the classic "I'm a teenager" bs. If you are easily offended, don't ask for brutally honest input.
Before I answer, let me preface this by saying I have dated several amazing black women who had good heads on their shoulders. That being said, MOST of the women I've encountered who are loud, annoying, rude, entitled and downright mean are black women as well. They are also more likely than other women to start a fight over something stupid. There is no need to shout all the damn time or make threats to try to get your way. Stupid ghetto behavior as I just described is why black women get all the hate they get.
Even if the girl herself is pleasant, there seems to always be someone close to her in her family who acts in the manner described above. Who wants to date a girl when they have to put up with unnecessary drama from her family? Again, this is just the general sentiment. I believe there are amazing black girls and families. There is good and bad in every race. However, blacks seem to be especially expressive, which is fine. It is HOW they choose to be expressive that hurts them.
I don’t have an opinion about the whole race of black woman, that’s just kinda stupid imho. There are millions of black woman and obviously they are all unique and diffrent, just like every other human out there.
I am aware that being a person of color comes with it’s own struggles and offensive stereotypes despite being a white woman. I can’t %100 empathize with the judgement you get because I never faced it myself but it is really important for me to speak about it and at least try to put myself in your shoes. While in college, I was in a highly international school and for the first time in my life, I had black friends (because almost no black people live in my hometown). It was shocking to me to see how ignorant some people were to them. They thought it was okay to ask them questions randomly like “how many cms is your p*nis” then laugh about it like it’s a totally normal question to ask a person you just met.
So based on what I see, in countries where black people are a minority, they get stereotyped based on what a bunch of immature white teens see on porn. Some people also think black people are all super strong and agressive. So they would randomly call them to fights.
I am sorry that you have to put up with all that. You are strong.
Tbh i feel bad for them. In my experience black women who date/marry men of other race are seen as traitors by their own men although their own men prefere non black women. I also notice that some or many black men are kinda racist to their own women and dont want to date black women but they call me racist when i refuse them. The logic. Black women are also kinda obsessed with dating/marrying their own race although their own black men treat them like shit, make them pregnant and leave them. But this is my experience with black people from america. i also can't generalize them and so i may be wrong.
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Context- am white man dating a woman of color.
I honestly learned a lot about black culture in general just from meeting this girl and her family. It's eye opening and I love it. I think there are a lot of unfair stereotypes out there. Just one of those *bad apples* type scenarios. I was really clueless to the struggle of having to deal with a completely different hair type that requires completely different care. and completely different skin tones that most make up companies don't produce good matches for. and beauty expectations that are quite frankly unrealistic to do every single day. I grew up in the middle of nowhere and this girl and her family and maybe one other black family are the only black people i've gotten really close and familiar with. It fascinates me how much they discuss race. not in a bad way. one thing i noticed is that her and her sister would play this game where they would try to guess the ethnicities of people. or try to guess were they half of this or half of that. which is a game i would never have considered playing until then.
That's an extremely broad group of people to try and give a generalized opinion, but for the most part, the exact same things that (men) find annoying or unattractive in white women will also apply to black women: bad or obnoxious attitudes, overweight, victim mindset, trashy tastes, more time spent on social media than the real world, etc. With maybe one exception, the black women I know who are happily married and surrounded by friends don't fall into any of those categories, and the exception is one who's a bit chubby.
I think it's because of the way they are portrayed. Like loud, obnoxious, high spirited. You see them on tv shoes and the news. And unfortunately that's what people see the most of and white, Latino and Asian women are starting to be portrayed like that also. I'm from the upper Midwest, rural agriculture region, do my experience is limited to my military experience and the few that live up here. I have never met someone like they portray on tv, the news or Cops. But I read people pretty well and if there's something about anyone that seems like it's gonna cause future trouble, I keep my distance, I don't need trouble or drama, it's a hassle for me that I don't need. I love all women from the get go but distance myself as I get to know what their actually like, that goes for men too.
I'm not saying this applies to every single black woman but I'm talking about the BRAND/IMAGE that black women in general have created & promote.
They have the highest rate of unplanned pregnancies & single moms:
*Best known for not being able to keep a man.
*Best known for being whores.
*Best known for not caring that they're whores & can't keep a man
*Focused on themselves above all else.
From a feminists pov these are model women because they're too selfish to care about anything but pleasuring themselves. That's the ultimate "sexual freedom". It also makes them completely unsuited for serious relationships.
Hey at least you were honest. They did ask for an unfiltered opinion.
Our opinions are biased on observable facts. Compared to white, on average, Blacks have lower IQs and are more athletic. However, some Blacks are very intelligent and some Blacks are not athletic. In any event, the variations within the set of Black women exceeds the average difference between the races whether Blacks and Caucasian or Black and Asians.
As for my personal taste, within my desirable age range, I'm attracted to almost 40% of Asians, 20% to 25% of Caucasians, and approximately 10% of Blacks. However, I believe if a Black women is pretty enough to appeal to me, she is in an elite group that would reject me.
As I like Slavic girls, black girls aren't in my taste. However, I have seen many black girls I am sure many many men would consider perfect embodiments of beauty.
Why black girls may not be popular: behavior. Many of the girls acted in a more crass way. I remember one black girl in my school who was an excellent student; she acted very respectably and definitely had a few guys who liked her. On the other hand, we had some other black girls who were loud, acted crazy, spoke with vulgarity. These girls attracted very little interest, other than from guys with questionable standards when it comes to who they pursue.
Black women differ from where they come, so my answer is very limited to my area.
Outwardly, I don’t care if the girl is white or well tanned!
I guess my inward feelings stem from some black guys that I have worked with. If they didn’t get everything that they thought they should have. They are were crying racism and running to the ACLU to file a complaint.
Then an investigation would make everyone walk on eggshells and to be extremely careful what you said or did.
One black woman told me that she didn’t believe in playing the race card. But she lied about things and almost got people fired over her lie!
On the other hand, I used to eat lunch with a black man and we could talk about anything and some jobs we would trust our lives to each other.
In my opinion. Color doesn’t make someone good or bad! It is the person, but someone needs to give the other one a chance.
Many of them have awful attitudes and are terrible people.
They expect everything given to them, they are violent and rude.
I'd say that's about 60% of them. Angry, mean, people.
Though I've dated one who was really nice. I have a few black female friends too that are not like that. Maybe it's just half of them. Also most of their families are all super racist against white people. Probably could never marry a black woman because of that.
That’s literally what all of society assumes about black women. You aren’t special
How would you feel if people always assumed you were rude and mean all because of the color of your skin? Some of y’all are sad with yourself and that’s why you be putting others down instead of worrying about yourself.
I don't mean to be rude, nor am I agreeing with his opinion, but you openly asked for opinions and literally proved his point
@Sirenboobzilla she didn't prove any point tho. She wasn't angry or mean.
@Sirenboobzilla exactly.
They are women just like any other woman. Some are attractive... some not.
I'll be honest... I prefer long, straight, silky hair that you can run your fingers through over kinky, afro type hair.
Other than that one difference... they are just like all other women on the globe.
There are some black women with natural straight/wavy hair
My grandma had that kind of hair
True.
I'm black and I must tell you that you're brave. G@G is full of racists and trolls who enjoy attacking minorities, especially black women.
I think we should give ourselves more appreciation. We're constantly criticized and mocked by society, but we are strong, intelligent, beautiful and awesome!
I have no opinion until I meet a person, on how I feel about anyone tbh. I kinda know if I vibe with someone by their aura, not appearance. It’s like an intuition you have when selecting your crowd. You don’t know why you gravitate to certain personalities, but they are usually a good fit to yours. Have a great day
Like with all races of women. Some are hot, some are not. The two at the bottom are really hit and the one hiding behind bottom right also is. Idgaf about other people's opinions I like them from all races and I happen to love caramel and brown most of all. Dunno why. All current exes were white but I've always been most attracted to girls from Latin America, North Africa, Middle East and India. Maybe weird? 😅
I feel like this question is tailored for americans while there are people of color all over the world.
I can't generalize as it would be highly unfair. My only opinion really is that I find some highly attractive and sadly many times I find it at least in my country and city nearly impossible to date one. There's still a divide in dating and ethnicity which is a shame. Hopefully it will change and it's more accepted in general to date whomever you wish to date.
They are just like all girls. There are some that are really nice and some who are not and all different kinds in between. I have known a few but have never dated any. There was one girl I liked but she would not go out with me. I suspect it was because I was white but I don't really know for sure. I don't believe in stereotypes. I guess i will just say each to her own strengths.
That’s nice to hear. Most black girls don’t care about race, we’re mostly just scared cause there are too many stories of black women being murdered by their spouse or having people fetishize them
I don't know. A few years ago I attended a conference and met this very nice woman who happened to be black. She was from Haiti. I am married and was not interested in dating her but we became friends and it turns out she did not know how to ride a bike. She never had the opportunity to learn in Haiti.
I went to her house one Saturday and brought my wife's bike with me and I taught her how to ride. It was actually sort of fun
Im also Haitian. I think the issue is that most Haitian families want you to be marrying a Haitian man, that might be why
I'm from the UK in an area with a lot of black people (I'm black myself), and the black girls in my area just seem rowdy and loud, whereas I'm into quiet women who are just great to spend time with. It's a shame I never got to find any counterexamples, but even the thought of a chill black woman that I'd like seems impossible
They are mostly like you.
Struggling with this idea that they are somehow hated or belittled by the world so they start doing all kinds of extra stuff to compensate.
Hence the fake plastic nails. The fake eyelashes. The extentions and wigs.
The eating disorders.
Basically the only black women I ever found charming are the few who understand their own self worth and don't try to too hard to please a crowd and only end up becoming repulsive
Last time I checked those all aren’t exclusive to black girls but sure, stay in your delusion
And ofc I’m going to feel some type of way. How tf would you feel if a bunch of people just made assumptions about you based off your skin color and the fact you’re a woman
Well I have arabic roots and rock a solid beard. Most people assume I'm a terrorist. But I never let it get to me.
No matter how much I bitch about it people will have their prejudice. They will see me in a certain way and I will see them in certain way this is just how humans are.
What I do instead is work on who I am. My presentation, my personality, my intellect.
And so when I'm faced with talking to someone new it takes me all but two seconds to convince that person that this one bearded arab guy is not a terrorist and he's actually a decent person
So stop wasting your time complaining no one is gonna heed you and change their minds about you. You need to work on yourself.
First of all I’m a teenager so you can’t just say get over it. It’s normal for teenagers to be sensitive about shit, and when you keep having idiots calling you names like monkey, ape, etc and saying ignorant shit you will get tired and will want to talk about it.
I’m tired of being gas lit, my feelings are perfectly normal and valid. It’s not complaining, you’re just being rude
Like just cause something doesn’t effect you doesn’t mean it doesn’t effect other people?
Why do you think I'm being rude?
I'm literally giving you the genuine advice no one ever has.
It's normal for a teen to be sensitive and I was like that as well but it doesn't mean it's a good thing.
If you're gonna base your self worth around "oh this virgin dweeb in school once thought he was so alpha and to compensate for his micro penis called me an ape"
You're gonna have a very hard life.
The lesson you will eventually learn (hopefully) is that people's opinion are worthless currency.
You need to do what you see as good, dress how you feel comfortable, have your own mannerism. And most importantly don't drive yourself crazy compensating for something you never lacked in the first place
To be honest. Black women have been thrust into a difficult place with the current BLM things going on.
They have the same issues as other women in equality, security etc. But its always that's bit more difficult when you're Black.
Thank you for understanding 😊 a lot of people just think we’re angry and so vocal on social justice for no reason but there’s definitely a reason
I have never met in real life so can't say all I have seen is from movies American African probably so I am not really sure.
But on here I have interacted with desii daisy
She's weird funny crazy unfiltered abit shameless 😁🤣 but brutally honest and has the swag
I basically never met an actual black girl. They are very rare where i live. And i guess they are just in completely outside of my social sphere.
I guess all i can say is, i think they look nice from afar xDI did have a black coworker though back in my side Hussle when i went to university. And he literally checked all the boxes for negative stereotypes for black people you can think of.
Was a male coworker tho.
Lol my advice is to not ask these questions on this site. A lot of the people here don't like black people, especially women.
Honestly !!! Like what did we do to y’all
That’s true. Some of the comments on this post expose that
That's not true you just have a complex and think you're the most important people on this Earth and you're not
@InvaderSims it is true and you don't know shit about me. But here's a VIP pass to the block party. Have fun!!!