What % of Vaccination holdouts will finally comply when faced with unemployment, inability to use public transportation or gather in public places? (Page 2)
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Troooooolllllllolololol the amount of people who are faceless on the internet who do this says a bit about the intestinal fortitude of a lot of them. Like none
really bugs you MAGA types when someone posts anon so you can't harass them all over this site and others. People like you are why the ability to post Anon exists. You really have no place in decent society which is why you are so rejected IRL
I don’t Harass people don’t have time for it. In fact if some says something stupid to me I tell them once what’s on my mind. If they start name calling and harassing me I simply ignore it. The surest way to prove you an idiot is to argue with one. Two people watching some one argue with an idiot , soon begins to have trouble telling them apart. I simply meant what I said. Also you assumption that I’m a MAGA is wrong. I’m not a liberal or democrat or republican I dislike the government j will say the republicans aren’t trying to destroy the country like the left , but in my mind the are a different side of the same coin. I just feel that people who discourse anonymously may lack courage. I will never hide my face. I put my face with my words. Just seems more appropriate to me.
and yet here you are... arguing with me... I OWN you!
I will not comply. My medical decisions are mine an mine alone. When did forced medical procedures become acceptable? I thought we all agreed that was considered crimes against humanity and a form of torture?
No forced procedure. All the establishments will be doing is exercising their right to refuse you service. If that makes life inconvenient for you, that's the price of your own decision.
Not by choice of the businesses. They are being forced to adhere to that by the government.
Nope-Businesses make that decision because the vast majority do not want to be around your stupid angry infectious asses and they outnumber you vastly!
You seem to be more angry than me. Plus I have a bachelor's degree in biology and was the only person in my microbiology course to not accidentally infect myself. It has been two years and I haven't gotten any respiratory illnesses. Despite being in close prolonged contact with Covid positive patients. Why because I know how to keep from getting an infection. In addition those who have the vaccine are just as likely to get covid and spread it as the unvaccinated. Not surprisingly since they were rushed into production. Nevermind that my employer has never made health decisions for me or any of their other employees. No business has ever tried to do that until this pandemic. Because we all agreed beforehand that it was your own personal choice.
A bachelors degree is a joke-the equivelent of a HS Diploma 40 years ago. I hold a doctorate in jurisprudence. I am also hold a masters in History. This qualifies me to speak on matters of public policy and law. A Bachelor's degree in anything qualifies you for nothing really.
Did you also make it to Boy Scout Second Class rank? Its makes you just as qualified to speak as your "bachelors degree". That's not going to get you far dude. Get a Masters at a minimum
And they keep getting offended when we draw comparisons between Nazi Germany and other apartheid failed states.
If I had a good enough reason not to get vaccinated and my employer wanted to fire me I would find employment elsewhere. That is better than myocarditis or blood clots.
Agreed. And you should also be kept out of enclosed public spaces and excluded from common carriers. No argument here!
Fascist pig!
@Juxtapose Typhoid Mary!
Go ahead and try and put me in some camp, you will never take me alive.
By the way the vaccines are leaky and do not prevent you from spreading covid lol.
@Juxtapose You watch too many movies. No one is interested in "taking you" to any camo. . We just don't want your infectious ass around us and will forbid you entry there. You are free to go wherever you want, but they do NOT have to let you in. "Unvaxed" is not a protected category so you can be excluded entry on that basis.
I guess you haven't seen the latest polls have you?
@Juxtapose Polls have no effect on the legal right of property/business owners to exclude you for not wearing masks or showing proof of vaccination (intelligence). Being MAGA is NOT a protected category. You know nothing of law.
I think most of the people willing to squish on their beliefs have already done so. I'm sure a couple percent more can be hustled into compliance, but not more than that.
You can't force people to take an ineffective medicine just as a sign of compliance. It is ethically wrong. You should be helping to fight this nonsense.
no one is forcing them-life is just going to get inconvenient for them-increasingly-unless they decide to rejoin sane society and get the jab. No one is being forced here-they decide to take it or not with all the consequences of their own decision.
Yes, that would be force.
You are referring to 'man's law' not 'common law' or 'natural law'.
Man's law, such as in a Stalinist regime, is when people are scared of the government. Yes, the communists did like to declare anyone who criticized society as 'insane'. Good little communist foot soldiers were sane. Any critic was 'mentally unwell'.
Common law is law pre agreed upon by the people in question.
Natural law is your rights you were born with.
That is NOT the definition of "common law". It is NOT Damn you rubes are stupid! Common law refers to rulings made by courts interpreting statutory language, not law pre agreed upon by the people in question". Nor has any alleged "right" to travel on common carriers in violation of law ever been considered "natural law". Don't just throw out terms when you have zero idea of what those terms mean.
A very large percentage of the black population has not and will not get the vaccine, So I don't know how your post is accurate. Personal I think it's my body my choice. Wasn't that the left motto for the 50 years.
Don't let a population work and the crime rate will just increase. A government trying to force a population on mass to go against their values will not work. Do you think everyone is just going to become homeless and starve willingly?
When it becomes sufficiently inconvenient 98% of the refusers will comply. Only the real Kool-Aide drinkers, those ideological idiots of the Right will still refuse. A LOT of MAGA types talk a good game but almost all arch right conservatives are nothing but talk
It is sad to see lost people who use politics as their identity on either side.
Wow You're soooo deep! (snark)
Well i own my own business, my own house, my own vehicle. Not sure how any of what you said will matter. I also live someplace where people aren't into this stuff, almost nobody wears masks where i live. I think you're in dream land or something.
great-STAY in your own house, harbor the infectecd in your own business and use your own vehicle for conveyance-no common carrriers for the unvaxed infectious. Stay in your bubble-I understand Trump is still President there and Jesus is his VP.
Wow- actual BRAGGING about how weak-willed and susceptible to bullying you are. That's a new one on me.
When they try to force people to get vaccinated it's time to take up arms.
How can this be done? A majority of people won't do this, even those who own arms right now.
@KlinkyCoder
Depends on how hard people get pushed. This country was founded on that principle. Same with a lot of other countries. It has happened many times in the past and can happen again.
@KlinkyCoder He's full of shit. All these right wing types swear they are going to grab their guns and overthrow the "gubbamint" whenever they don't like the news. They're all talk-just blowhards scared by changing demographics and insecure because they are uneducated and cannot compete in a modern economy
Less than 5% of eligible people are unvaccinated/refuse to. A non issue really.
wow are YOU misinformed!!
Nope... 95% of the eligible population in my country have had at least 1 dose. About 25% of children aged 5-11 have also now had one dose.
Oh-New Zealand. A non-issue there because it was handled smartly. We are stuck here in the US with the MAGAdiots and Trump ran the response, hence Covid rages in the US. Conservative Fascism is as bad a disease as Covid, hell, its as bad as Ebola.
With the way we are going currently under the new so called restrictions we are predicted to be looking at thousands of omicron cases by next weekend
Hopefully, no one will compromise their beliefs. Hopefully, the nation will stop being so unreasonable and let people live their lives for themselves.
What percentage of people like you should eat shit and die? 💯
You will be eating your own shit when you cannot enter a grocery store because you won't comply.
Not sure if you're a troll, but regardless it is pretty pathetic how people like the OP think it's alright to restrict people's rights.
But you do not HAVE a right to ride a public conveyance in violation of law.
And just because you make a government makes it a law, doesn't make it right.
and just because you do not like a properly enacted law doesn't mean you have a "right" to disobey it
More like a duty to disobey unjust laws.
You're ridiculous.
You're too kind.
The problem is the vaccinated are still getting sick so their argument is falling flat
What percentage of vaccination cave ins will will realize the shots are doing absolutely nothing?
Some reason I think they really will secede rather than get on stupid shot.
they tried that before and got the shit kicked out of them. They talk really big but they will piss their pants when faced with consequences. Look how many of the traitors who stormed the capitol cried and recanted when brought to court!
When ever you guys start rounding the people up to send them to the concentration camps.
Concentration Camps were invented by Conservatives.
Proof or this is a bald face lie
The British Empire invented detention of civilian populations to prevent insurgency during the Boer War in what is today South Africa. (Its hard to get more conservative than the Victorian British Empire). The Nazis made wide use of it first for political prisoners and eventually establishing death camps. Nazis and Fascism are on the Right Wing/Conservative side of the political divide constituting farthest right a western nation has lurched (so far).
Nazi you mean the National socialist party?
I understand "nazi" was considered a slur by Hitler and Co.-they preferred the term National Socialist". However the term there has nothing to do with socialism. They were white supremacists, just like yourself and the GOP.
Just like yourself and the GOP? Lol you know nothing about me and sound brainwashed into hating your family and neighbors who think different. But enjoy comrade Stalin I mean Bidens Gulags.
Your reply is disjointed and all over the place-it's just babbling, throwing out phrases
What phrases? I literally just did what you have been doing all along. You never were forced to reply so if you can't handle it I think you should seek counseling for mental help.
Those that can't live without getting an income. Some can.