Why do people ignore the criminal actions of the people who Kyle Rittenhouse killed in self defense, and claim it was racist and that they were black?

[blazesteered]

Two were white, one was black. One was a pedophile, the other one killed someone and the other one threatened to kill Kyle.

Kyle was there to save people, not to look for a fight.

[lightbulb27]

I think I figured this out as I was tripped over the same issue. There's some videos by AA activists you can watch to understand the thinking. Realize... people see things differently based upon their experience and perspective.

I agree with you, but here's how I think they think.

* Racist because: if it was a group of black men with guns guarding a place, treatment would be totally different and world opinion. [They might be right, although I see it as an issue of character and purpose not color].
* Racist because a black man shooting anyone like that would be convicted (assumption). I don't agree.
* Their perspective is one of "self defense" opposite of yours. e. g. trayvon was defending and killed wrongfully, Aubrey was defending and killed, rodney king was abused, as was G. F. The person who is "down" is considered the one that is offended, that be at least the 2nd guy kyle shot. They see him more as a hero to stop a shooter/killer.
* It was a blm "protest" that turned riot again and by orientation, these guys were on the other side.

maybe there's other angles to it I've missed.

[blazesteered]

Yeah well you see this stuff is designed to look a certain way so we argue about them, thats why the truth of these cases is not fully known till later

[lightbulb27]

the media definitely spins as they want, but there's also people coagulate to their existing viewpoints.

As Ithink about nearly every case of black person conflict in the news, their behavior/rection is discounted. I think that is becuase of the history of slavery where they were abused for so long and their response is considered "ok". It's mis communication/overreactions causing much of the mayhem. most of society is fine, we just get to see the worst scenarios amplified.

[OpenClose]

I'd say the main problem I have is that a teenager showed up to a tense situation with a gun he was ready to use. It doesn't matter if you are fly a MAGA flag or a Black Panther flag, bringing a gun you intend to use invites escalation pretty quickly. And then it was followed by people rooting for him as a patriot.

Otherwise, I do actually think the verdict was just. He was shown acting in self-defense rather than attack, as I understand. And the escalation is still the fault of the escalators. In the same way it doesn't matter what the spouse said before a DV case, only who committed the violence itself. So I can't sit behind the narrative that he did it because he was just some racist kid who wanted to knock some black heads.

As for the actions of the attackers themselves, it could be considered, but I don't consider it 100% relevant. If it was deemed murder by Kyle, who they were before that doesn't change the charge.

But yeah, this wasn't nearly as contentious as something like George Zimmerman's case not even going to trial. Especially given the actions of Zimmerman AFTER, as opposed to before.

[888theGreat]

Because they are liberals. Lets look at their hysterical reactions

Anyone that is a white male is racist , homo hater , and rapes his wife. They really believe this

Global Warming Hoax because they don't believe in God and that he will determine when the age of man ends not the weather. Al Gore , their poster boy, said we would all be dead from climate change 10 years ago. Yet I am writing this now in 2022

Covid was going to kill 10 billion people. Right it was a strong cold that killed half dead people that would have died within two years anyway.

Vaccinations , now they are hysterical about people that don't have them when they don;t help you. People with shots are still dying , what has changed. The only reason death rate is lower is because all the weakest among us have already died.

Guns , they are scared of guns just jumping up and shooting on their own. Guns never killed anyone , people are the ones that kill other people. So , we have 1000's of gun laws and a 1000 more won't change a thing. Evil people are evil people.

Women movement for more than equal rights. Wanting gov't to find them a job and get them raises instead of getting it themselves.

Education , teaching kids to hate America and any authority figure

Riots , Democrats encourage riots when they are not in majority. They use a crisis to gain power.

So , Kyle was white and had a gun. He used a gun in self defense. They don't want guns used at any time. No hunting , no target shooting , and no self defense.

[Soteris]

The criminal actions of the victims of Kyle Rittenhouse is literally irrelevant to him killing them. Someone being a bad person does not give you the right to murder them or provide justification for self defense. We live in a society of law and order and that applies to us equally.

[blazesteered]

They tried to kill Kyle just for being there you f*cking idiot

[Soteris]

First of all we have no evidence that they were actually going to kill him, case in point no one else died during the days before or after to my knowledge. Secondly, what do them being bad guys have to do with them supposedly wanting to kill him? If an idiot was pointing a gun at me I would want to kill them too. Self defense works both ways you know.

[blazesteered]

If thats the case thn why was he found not guilty

[blazesteered]

Kyle didn't pull out his gun until they cornered him, threateened his life or pointed there gun at him. He didn't go there looking for a fight. You just believe the mainstream media. Are you one of those "criticize the mainstream media and goverment and institutions and then kiss there a$$ " kind of people

[Soteris]

He was found not guilty on technicalities, its not a very persuasive argument for why he is innocent in my opinion when you have to rely on the people writing the laws to not screw up the wording.

As for pulling out a gun? He was carrying a rifle. You dont pull them out of your back pocket. It was already "pulled out". This is especially true for the 2nd encounter where he had already killed someone and was clearly a public danger making him fair game to attack.

Its also very weak arguments to claim he was not looking for a fight. He literally obtained an illegal firearm, traveled across states and intentionally put himself in danger. He was definitely looking for confrontation.

[blazesteered]

He didn't hurt anybody until they threatened his life

[blazesteered]

Liberals victim blame when someone is going against there fake woke narrative, and stick up for victims or "victims" if there going along with there narrative

[Soteris]

And they did not kill anyone until some idiot brought a gun and became a danger to them. In fact they still did not kill anyone yet Kyle did. Who is the true danger in this equation?

[blazesteered]

If 3 guys threaten me and pull there guns out just for trying to save people I would be pissed to and pull out my gun and shoot only if I had to. From what I know, he shot them in the leg or arm. He was just trying to get away, not kill. Who is the real aggressor here?

Its always the person whose not a left wing fanatical c*nt or goin along with the agenda thats a bad guy isn't it? You guys can't handle a noble person who goes against your orthodoxies.

[Soteris]

Who is the real aggressor? How about the person who should never have been there and never have been armed regardless.

[Sabretooth]

because it's irrelevant. he went to (what he thought) was a BLM protest with an assault weapon and began terrorizing people with it. a case of self-defense would apply to them, as well. if this was a black kid running from a white mob... certain people's support would be reversed.

[FunkyMonkee]

Brainwashing! Only the idiots think that way because they were TOLD to think that way since, they are just too stupid to think for themselves or reason with the facts!

[spartan55]

Uh... he was found not guilty... so what are you bitching about?

[blazesteered]

Ima sking about the people who judge kyle and ignore the criminal actions of those 3 guys

what are you b*tching about

not understand my question

[spartan55]

Yeah I understand it just fine dude...

[KostasKouvalis]

Because they say he was running around with a gun deliberately looking for an excuse to kill someone, and they want to use any excuse to make Conservatives look bad

[exitseven]

Kyle was found innocent and will probably get a big settlement from the fake news. It does not matter about the dirtbags he shot.

[OddBeMe]

i think you completely confused our position. We called Kyle racist for flashing "ok" handsigns while meeting with proud boys.

[shadowvi]

I don't think racism exists anymore Kyle was right to stop them

[blazesteered]

Racism will always exist. The New Age Racism is here, people my age like my brother in the new age racism movement, The KKK is trying to rise again because they feel provoked by BLM and current racial politics and controversies. The Black Panthers, and anti white prejudice, has come up due to anger or trauma from historical racism, the edgy struggle, and just plain old prejudice for superifical reasons.

[blazesteered]

But if were smart and creative and dont call everything racist thn maybe it will go away

[shadowvi]

I think BLM is more racist than the KKK these days

[blazesteered]

Look at how corrupt New York has become, this has lead to a lot of racist attacks from cab drivers who feel provoked by current racial politics.

New Age Racist try to use "Science" and"Evolution" to justify there prejudice.

The illuminati is trying to divude us, th always have

[blazesteered]

I dont think so the KKK is always ready to rise again if for example BLM turns up. And how can you say racism doesn't exist and then go and say racism doesn't exist? Im not mad im juss pointing that out there

[shadowvi]

But KKK isn't racist anymore did you see the interview

[blazesteered]

Yea I know what they say but I have a racist brother so I Know how racist people think and nowaday they try to have good optics. Not all are radicals, some just want segregation, but the many KKK insurgents are getting ready to get radical again.

[shadowvi]

Did you see they had a black girl interviewing them not racist.

[blazesteered]

Not all KKK os New Age Racist is made the same

[RationalMale]

Because those people hate White people. Simple as that.

[Reijen]

Wait, who was the black one? And which one killed someone?

[ManHater]

They were black? Huh? Who was black?

[Waldoe]

because the Leftist need an Enemy...