If women expect men to support their abortion rights, shouldn't we also expect women to support men's right to a paper abortion?

[Anonymous]

When this question is posed, the majority of women who support abortion rights will respond with something like "men already have a choice... they can choose not to have sex". Well the obvious fact is that women have that exact same choice, but when they make a mistake and get pregnant they can choose abortion to opt out of being a parent. And that is exactly why the vast majority of abortions happen.

https://www. verywellhealth. com/reasons-for-abortion-906589

The whole "it's my body, my choice" thing seems more like an excuse to allow women to control everything related to reproduction when you consider why women actually choose to have abortions. They are choosing not to be a parent for exactly the same reasons why men would like to choose not to be a parent when they made exactly the same mistake.

There would of course have to be some strict requirements if we made "paper abortions" legal. A man would have to let the pregnant woman know of his choice early enough in the pregnancy that she can make an informed choice about whether she wants to abort or continue with the pregnancy knowing she will be a single mother without financial support from the father. The woman would need to notify the man of the pregnancy early enough to make that choice in time to meet the requirement. If she doesn't, she forfeits her right to child support. The man would have to give up the right to be a part of the child's life.

So, if women can choose to have an abortion simply because they made a mistake and are not ready or willing to become a parent, shouldn't men have a similar option? It seems hypocritical to argue otherwise.

Yes, men should have the legal right to a "paper abortion" (explain your answer)

No, only women should have choices (explain your answer)

Results, please

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Thanks to everyone who responded. Too bad the one female who voted no didn't have the courage to justify her position.

[NamerOfStars]

Hermesmann v Seyer set the precedent; choosing to not have sex doesn't matter. And the rash of laws that followed, setting the same standardbin other states, reinforced it. Women can choose to opt of parenthood, and are legally protected from genital mutilation, battle slavery, discrimination in employment and housing, and exclusion from clubs and organizations based on sex. In exchange, they lose... the right to public toplessness. In some places.

Many would have you believe that this means that women are oppressed in this country.

That's the level of intellectual integrity you should expect from the national dialogue on the subject.

[Asker]

Well said, your answer is at the top of the list for MHO so far. Thanks for your response.

[msc545]

Men should have the right to decline to be fathers, including the right to not be financially responsible for a child they didn't agree to have and don't want.

[Asker]

Thanks for sharing your opinion. I of course agree with you 100%. But it needs to be done in a way that is fair to the mother and respects her right to make her own choices, which means the father letting her know his own choice as early as possible in the process.

[msc545]

It also needs to be done in a way that is fair to fathers, instead of blindsiding them as is done now. I am a lot more worried about fathers' rights them I am about women in this situation and for very good reasons since men as of now get treated like either trash or as ATM machines.

[Anonymous]

Yeah I agree. A woman should obviously not be forced to carry a pregnancy to term against her will, but most times a woman chooses an abortion it's because she is scared to become a mother or she isn't ready or can't afford it. A man is no different in the respect. I think it's only fair they should have an option too as long as they do it when she can still have an abortion if she wants to.

[Asker]

Thank you, it seems women who see it that way are still uncommon.

[alice55]

This already exist in my country. I'm not really against it but I wish men and women would be much more mature. Like seriously if you have sex protect yourself or be ready to be a parents don't be an immature assholes.

[Asker]

I didn't know that about France. I'm glad to know that at least some countries have advanced beyond the stone age with respect to men's reproductive rights. How does the law work there?

And I agree 100% with your last sentence too?

[alice55]

Very easy the man just doesn't recognize the child as his own and then lose all paternity rights and obligations towards it. Regarding the laws the child won't be his.

I just don't understand how it's possible in developed countries to have unwanted pregnancy (except in case of rape).

[Asker]

Thank you, that's how it should be. I'm sure it will be eventually here in the US, but for now we are still very backward with respect to men's rights.

And I agree with you, there's really no reason for 99% of unwanted pregnancies except in cases of rape.

[alice55]

It seems so, America is very focused on women and minorities right but that's about it. They focus more trans who don't even make up 5 percent of the population but completely ignore 50 percent of the population kinda crazy.

Most unwanted pregnancy happen cause people don't care about protection cause they know they can easily get an abortion some women even have up to 7 pregnancy crazy

[Asker]

You summed it up better and with more honesty than 95% of American women. I think maybe I need to move to France. :)

Thanks for your contributions here.

[Anonymous]

yes it's hypocritical to say women should have the right to an abortion but men should have no reportative rights.

[Asker]

Yep, agreed.