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I think mistakes happen especially when put under pressure. Unfortunately in this line of work a mistake can cost someone their life.
Maybe if she spent less time posting selfies to Insta and focused more on not killing patients?
@KrakenAttackin I don't see the relevance there.
I wonder if nurses go to court more than cops? Both of those industries need serious retraining.
very few nurses go to jail most just want to do a good job without being micromanaged by some asshole who has no idea of what's going on just there to increase production. but if micromanagement screws up the nurse gets blamed per usual
@Smashingdoozy. So what are your they about police officers who accidentally shoot an unarmed subject in a very stressful situation?
A cop has a second to make a decision. This nurse could have taken all the time she wanted.
@KrakenAttackin very different situations. It's not like they accidentally reach for their guns and shoot. They shoot with intent. This woman made a mistake. Not knowing if a person is armed or not isn't a mistake it's poor training.
@KrakenAttackin no not really. Last cop accidentally shot a guy got ten years.
@OddBeMe. That's what I am saying. Am honest mistake that results in loss if life. White male cop goes to prison. Pretty white female nurse, get a lecture and no jail time. Both mistakes resulted in the same outcome.
@Smashingdoozy. It's not like she didn't intentionally load the syringe and inject the wrong patient. Pretty white girl privilege.
@KrakenAttackin she didn't inject the wrong patient. She injected the wrong medicine
@Smashingdoozy. However it happened she killed someone.
@Smashingdoozy "I don't see the relevance there". Sitting from atop your white female privilege, I bet you don't.
@KrakenAttackin yeah there's no denying she did, but it was an accident. It's pretty hard to accidentally shoot someone. Please do tell me what relevance taking selfies has to do with your job? I take selfies all the time but it doesn't affect my job performance.
@KrakenAttackin is she even white? Doesn’t matter.
I guess intent is the issue. Chauvin went to prison for strangling a handcuffed suspect with his knee.
She injected the wrong drug.
Incompetent but not malicious. No jail time, just strike her off and let her go work some place else.
@CountessSarah You don't happen to be a nurse are you. You sure have a uncaring attitude. Let her go work somewhere else you say? And what? Kill more people? You won't get very far in life with your poor attitude. I hope to God you aren't a nurse or just in some other position to hurt or kill people. Gee's!
@sage2021 Work somewhere else /in a different field/, you moron.
i am sure the victim's family is not happy at all but she did not do it on purpose.
i guess if i were her i would be happy to not be sitting in jail.
but i think she should of gotten a little more than probation for what she did. but she is not a monster either.
That is a very critical situation.. she should be jailed, not just to punish her but to make an example, human life isn't a game!
I also believe that an investigation should be made to find out the ''why'' she made that mistake, and MANY improvements should follow, to prevent such mistake from happening again!
You're supposed to have two RNs read the label to one another before you even fill the Syringe. It should be Jail time in my opinion and barred from ever practicinig Medicine again.
She should've been charged with, and found guilty of, "criminally negligent manslaughter", not "criminally negligent homicide", because the word "homicide" implies that patient's death was planned or deliberate, which was not the case.
I would not have her sit out a sentence in jail. However many murders are accidents. Many murderers are in there because of an accident. Either way, have her lose the ability to work in the medical field ever again.
Americans are always quick to jump to jail time and locking people up. It's no surprise America has one of the highest incarceration rates of any country. Over %1 of Americans are in jail. It's not the land of the free when %1 is behind bars.
Definition of manslaughter.
Extreme negligence resulted in the patient under the nurse's care's death.
manslaughter
măn′slô″tər
noun
The killing of a person without malice aforethought but with either the intention to commit an unlawful act that leads to an unintended death,
or with an otherwise murderous intent that is extenuated by some partial defense, such as acting under the influence of an extreme emotional disturbance occasioned by a substantial provocation on the part of the victim.
The killing of a human being by a human being, or of men by men; homicide; human slaughter.
Specifically—2. In law, the unlawful killing of another without malice either express or implied, which may be either voluntarily, upon a sudden heat, or involuntarily, but in the commission of some unlawful act. Blackstone.
@Echosoul how does that help? Good for you, you learned how to Google a word and copy and paste.
Well under that definition whatever the charges for manslaughter apply. According to the CPS I think 12 years custody. Not sure what 'custody' refers to, possibly prison:
www.cps.gov.uk/.../homicide-murder-and-manslaughter
Technically I used DuckDuckGo but I get your point.
@Echosoul
re·tard
verb
/riˈtärd/
delay or hold back in terms of progress, development, or accomplishment.
The point is legally it's a manslaughter case due to extreme negligence. The patient was under her care and she killed them. It wasn't intended killing (murder) but still serious.
I actually researched the legal definitions to see what the usual legal outcome could be since I'm not legally trained and didn't want to rely on guesswork. You know how research works, right? It's not "this is correct because I said so". I have to do a fair bit of research for my Masters.
@Echosoul I know that you can't get a law school degree by using Google for 20 minutes. And we live in a Democracy where we can criticize unjust laws. I am criticizing our justice system.
I never claimed any laws in my original statement and I still haven't cited any laws. I'm pointing out that our justice system is screwed up.
Again I will help define your situation:
e·tard
verb
/riˈtärd/
delay or hold back in terms of progress, development, or accomplishment.
"our progress was retarded by unforeseen difficulties"
I understand it was a accident but she has to be punished nevertheless, in prison for at least 2 to 3 years and probation.
If someone accidentally damages or destroys your property, they're still responsible. It was an avoidable mistake that cost someone their life.
She has to live with the guilt, and there was no apparent motive or intent. Probation for 5 years or so.
This is what happens when you fire so many of your nurses for refusing to take an experimental vaccine. The ones who are left are overworked and fatigued and overwhelmed. Mistakes like this are inevitable.
It's not experimental. It's a tried and tested method and it's been through the trials. Having unvaccinated nurses interacting with covid patients and/or other patients and colleagues endangers the latter. They're dealing with vulnerable patients while being likely to spread the virus to them and kill them. They're unfit for this role.
I almost had that happen to me years ago. some dumb bitch nurse tried giving me the wrong medication that would of caused me to go into seizures. I found out what medicine she was going to inject me with and stopped her. The dumb bitch didn't even bother reading my medical chart to see what medicines I was allergic to
as someone who's been in the victim's position throw the bitch's ass behind bars for the rest of her life. she was careless and didn't give a shit and didn't bother taking a few minutes to read a patient's medical chart. When i was in that situation I reported the dumb bitch to the charge nurse who didn't give a shit. throw her ass behind bars for the rest of her life
if that dumb bitch had injected me with the wrong medicine my body would had gone into seizures. lucky for me i stopped her before it was to late. the fucking ironic part is she even admitted to the other nurses at the desk she didn't bother to read my medical charts
let her ass rot behind bars for what she did
No different then the government doing it on purposes with vaccinations and killing millions of people.
That's legal genocide to them
Not jail but i sure hope they don't let her treat critical patients anymore. You'll kill someone in ER sooner or later. Just a matter of time till you make a mistake.
I don't think jail time is appropriate, but she should be barred from working in any medical or life safety context.
If she'd attempted to hide the mistake then jail time would be in order.
Accidents happen. Adequate staffing prevents a lot of them.
I don’t know the details of the case, but it seems a bit much to charge her with that for simply giving the wrong medication.
Jail time. She got the degree, she's supposed to be a trusted surgeon and she's paid highly. Yes people can make mistakes but mistakes comes with consequences
But the people who cause them go scott free. The bosses go home at night and nurses have to work 60 70 hr week s make a mistake working 60 to 70hrs and get jail time because of being forced to work. Prime example Gov Cuomo murdered 15,000 nursing home residents that we know of probably more like 25,00 and grabbing females at work and what did he get a slap on the wrist I doubt she had the time to take selfies but may have taken a chance to picture working conditions since visitors were not allowed in to see the squalor and filth and the nurses and help working with out personal protective equipment
Then I think those governments should be jailed too. With great power comes with great responsibility
When doctors do jail time for screwing up, I am just surprised it doesn't happen a lot nurses are over worked and undershaft just so hospitals can make more money for the stock holders and ceo