As many are pointing out, there has always been domestic abuse —it’s violence like any other crime. What I think some are missing is the insidious thing about many centuries is that it was not considered crime but legally sanctioned and promoted as family values. These advertisements are are not considering this abuse or violence but discipline. Like the directive of beating your wide with a stick, as long as it was not thicker than two fingers.
This wasn’t a 1950s thing specifically just that they had ridiculous adds. I’d never believe this stuff was real if I didn’t see them. I can’t imagine anyone getting married at all growing up In that world. Tho I imagine no one took those things seriously, tho jokes aside, still women lacked rights I’ve their bodies in relation to Men. Rape for example, was not even considered a criminal act until relatively recently. The first case brought to trial was 1978.(in US)
As long as we live in a world where plundering pillaging rape kidnap and murder are NORMAL acts of conflict and countries regularly destroy other counties for the resources somehow WITH public support —if the PR team is good enough and the story is sellable. Women create life, which is the most valuable essential facet of any society- its people. Women, like people native to a land rich in natural resources, in constant date of defense from potential foreign invaders, often exhausted from blocking wars of aggression, Women will targeted for their resources & women will be at risk of subjugation. This isn’t about men vs women but a world that seeks Power over over life rather than balance & unity with life, power over one’s natural resources, body like is an on going battle. in my opinion
It was just a different time. In some places it still happens today.
It was a fairly common thing growing up and chatting to various people, it was just a thing, it was almost normality.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2137649/Only-Mad-Woman-50s-golden-age-No-career-No-mortgage-No-bank-account-A-husband-wouldnt-lift-finger--dont-started-girdles-A-new-book-says-forget-nostalgia.html
https://www.historic-uk.com/CultureUK/The-1950s-Housewife/
In the UK at least women had very few actual rights or the ability to do anything in society, especially down from the middle class, working class families were headed by the husband, he gave out punishments to the kids and his wife in equal measure.
even when I was a kid, it happened that you would visit a friends house and their mother had a black eye or similar, answering back was not a thing you did.
I did not talk to my dads father as he was a total cunt.
while one of the articles above mentions women and pubs, around Newcastle women were not allowed full stop in to any bar, lounge with husband but that was it, all working man’s clubs were men only unless it was a function on then could take wife (that went on until I think the 1970 - 1980’s).
Obviously other more affluent regions may have had less abuse, there was a chance the mother went to college or even maybe a teacher.
working class areas, you left school at 16 and it was Shipyards, steel works or mines for the guy and house work for the woman, nearly all married off by 20.
So honestly you don't give enough context to this question to just give an honest answer to.
So I will say there is no excuse for physical abuse, but I have been assaulted by a women before. I didn't hit her back, but when I easily put her on her ass, she was like "How dare you, I should call the cops!" Like she didn't just attack me... so there is a degree of bullshit to all of this.
I also find the whole he emotionally or mentally abused me. Because I have been put through so much bullshit by women in my life time. I never considered it mental or emotional abuse at the time. But it was abuse, I just never saw myself as a victim. But I been with women when every other word I said was soooo abusive. I mean the thing about emotional or mental abuse is that they can literally take anything you say and twist into something completely not true. I am like seriously women? You're fucking crazy.
So 50 years old or not, let's not pretend she's a perfect person and this guy is just coming out of nowhere with his shit. She's probably fucking with him some how, but he should not be hitting her. He should just dump her ass and do better for himself.
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u You believe that this was commonplace in the 1950's? Where?
All feminists do. They all believe it was routine for a man to come home in that time period and punch his wife around the kitchen for hour on the daily because his dinner was cold.
@Exterminatore Come on! Did he kick the dog, too, and beat up the kids, too? And maybe punch a hole in the wall, and through a few glasses out the window?
I believe in discipline just not physical.
Sad truth is eventually your woman will have to be put in her place for the sake of the longterm health of the relationship. She has to respect you and your authority as the leader in the relationship.
Overtime girls need to be reminded that you're still the man she fell in love with and she'll consciously or unconsciously test you in small ways. If you fail one test it results in misbehaviors.
If you let it slide she'll do another misbehavior. Mishandling those leads to a relationship you hate and usually her leaving because in her heart and mind you "changed". When realistically you were just trying to just love and cherish her.
a lot of good men mess up by being incapable of appropriately handling these moments and the girl doesn't even realize she's doing it most of the time.
Deep down your woman should know if she did xyz misbehavior that you would kick her to the curb because you're a man and won't put up with it. If she doesn't know it anymore she does a little test.
Like girls who ask a man to do something specifically just to see if he'll actually do it
So, I think it goes back to evolutionary biology, let me explain.
Amongst many things, men want to ensure that the women they are with are with them only and not other men. This can be for a few reasons, but perhaps one that stands out is that it is to ensure children from her are his and not someone else’s.
Men want absolutely loyal women.
They don’t want women who want to be with the whole football team if that makes any sense.
In this case, men are quite protective & territorial.
How does this relate to men disciplining their wives in the 50s? Well, for one, this has probably been going on for centuries upon centuries before the 50s and still after in many places on earth.
The answer? Well, what do you think the discipline is for? Pretty much what I explained above.
Sexual loyalty.
If a woman cheated, flirted, or exposed herself unnecessarily with another man or other men.
weaker and inadequate men are just not capable of inspiring respect, loyalty or trust and many other things...
which is why they feel the urge to DEMAND it and then beat up women... precisely because they are weak and inadequate men, they do resort to abuse
no other reason than that, those who enforce discipline through abuse and violence or even just being unreasonably strict are just the weaker men
I know it’s natural to want to believe that cruelty, brutality, authoritarianism, and more are for weaker or inadequate men but it is not what history has shown.
Men have been this way for the majority of human civilization.
I’m not saying this is good or bad.
I’m saying this is what it was and is even today.
authoritarian regimes through history are a completely different dynamic...
it is not the same as one husband abusing a wife
when you hit your wife... you are not conquering another country or tribe
you're just being an absolute douchebag and a psycho one at that
What I’m trying to say is that men being controlling over the affairs of their women in a variety of forms or ways have existed in the vast majority of civilizations in the history of humanity.
I’m no expert, but my answer as to how or why this has been a fact is evolutionary biology.
I cannot think of another more potent or true answer.
that is not biology... that is just some being inadequate idiots, that is all
when you look at biology.. nature will not lead an species to their demise as a rule
if "males" were meant to "control THEIR women" because biology actually dictates that, then the resulting would be for humans to still do that... and it is not the case at all
biology is a very simplistic set of rules for organisms to live... but we are not just simple organisms at all... and we have not been that for the last 40,000 years or so, we are evolved beings, and we are way above any basic biology and primal instincts
well, obviously not everyone... there's still sub-developed ones roaming around
case in point...
I said evolutionary biology.
It’s a little more specific than just biology
I’m no evolutionary biologist, but if you look up what I’m talking about you’ll find that it’s quite intricate.
Religion, for example, is said to be an evolutionary adaptation.
The reasoning? Well, again, I’m no expert on this subject so I don’t want to misquote or misrepresent these professionals.
Not everything in science is meant to make us happy.
Humans can be extremely petty, despicable, cruel, nasty, malicious, savage, unfair, unreasonable, and awful creatures.
Arguably, we are the most savage and cruel of all creatures in existence.
everything you just said means nothing much to the argument...
it only shows how you present yourself as ignorant and rather go by belief... beliefs to confirm your bias as well
which is something you did not have to clarify, that was clearly evident and has been clearly evident since months ago
I was waiting for you to finally bring me into this and attack me.
Anyways, I’ll ignore that and continue to have the discussion.
How does anything I’ve said show I present myself as ignorant and rather go by belief to confirm my bias?
I said I’m no expert
Also, I’m too lazy to type out even more than I’m typing out now to someone who will have 0% appreciation over whatever I write.
"belief"
I believe is bias... and bias is ignorance
as simple as that
And you’re free of bias?
Are you human? Then you have bias.
You’re not special even though your mommy may have said so.
I am not ruled by bias... great difference right there
"you're not special" that must be what you really and want and lack the most in this life huh... motherly love, not it starts to make sense...
so transparent you are...
I’m a mommy’s boy.
Good relationship with everyone, but I’ve always been able to talk with mom.
My grandma has called me special 🥰😍That’s all matters^
god bless grandmas... true that
and yes, you're still a little boy... with a whole lot to learn
When a woman is dominating me
I love it when she calls me a “little boy”
Anyways……. Yeah, grandmas rock.
well yes... you get exactly what you pay for
Never payed for anything
Never will
Except…..
If it’s your mommy.
sure... "never"
I make that one exception
ONE
If you want to join us I can’t pay for you so sorry
I’m on a budget
another question, if you don't mind... did you ever had a father?
Yes, I have a father.
and how are things there? everything well? most things well, anyway?
Yes, most things.
good... I am sure he's quite proud of you
Yeah, I’d say he’s proud of me.
but he never said so himself?
Hmm good question.
Definitely not a common thing, but I believe he did say it at one moment either before me leaving for deployment or before leaving for basic.
I can’t remember.
beliefs seem to be a deciding factor in your life
And you know the total character of my life?
God, is that you?
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If a woman’s behaviour has deteriorated to the point that physical discipline is required, it is time to blow her out of an airlock and get another one.
My former wife carried on like a neurotic lunatic one day, until I lost patience and put her over my knee.
The third time that my hand made contact with her arse, she had a powerful orgasm. At that point I realised that she had wanted me to do that.
Since that revelation, I have learned that more than a few females go ‘out of pocket’ because they want their man to go cave man on them.
I suspect that the behaviour is somewhere in the Daddy Issues category.
Lol
I think maybe the values systems that our ancestors practiced for thousands of years are more sustainable than the values systems we've only recently made up and have already collapsed the family and sent civilization into a tailspin.
"Love" is an unhelpful, subjective term.
Women wanted resources & protection, men wanted loyalty & obedience in return for providing them. That was the deal. That was what kept marriages and societies together. Not "love."
I don’t know how common it was I’m sure it was more common than it is nowadays because people have always been fucked up it’s just now people are put on blast more so people are behaving more. It’s not just men that have been doing fucked up shit. There’s homes for native Americans that were run by nun’s that did some seriously evil shit to children. I’m not trying to shift attention I’m just saying there’s scumbags everywhere in all shapes sizes colors and sexes and the only reason I can come up with is they’re evil and get off on feeling better and having power over someone else. What I really don’t understand is how does a group of people like these nuns that ran those homes how do they get together and start doing evil shit and they all are cool with it. Are there really demons on this planet that are pulling strings how do these people find each other before the internet that is
I spanked my wife for disobeying me once. Now she disobeys me just to get spanked.
🤣🤣🤣 I'm totally kidding.
Seriously, I agree with you 100%. The idea of a man abusing a woman is beyond fucked up. She is not his property. Neither person is the boss in a healthy relationship.
I grew up in the 1950s and what you say is false. My dad, for example, never laid a hand on my mother to hurt her! And that's how I was brought up. I never saw or heard of anyone else doing any such thing, either. It was not legal to assault your wife, as though she were a donkey or a horse or something you owned!
Now I wasn't around during the 1920s, so I can't speak for that time.
Um dude just because it didn’t happen to you doesn’t mean it didn’t happen at all.
I didn't say it didn't happen at all, but if it happened it was considered a crime, not a husband's "right." No one owns anyone else. No one has a right to assault a family member in the name of "discipline." I agree with you 100%. But I don't think it was the '50s. Remember, the '50s were the years just after the GIs came home after winning, WWII, the "Greatest Generation." They were into getting married, buying homes and having babies! Things were looking up in America. We were at peace, the economy was great, you could buy a home on the GI Bill for $10. down, believe it or not, you could support a family and send your kids to college on one salary, gas was 28 cents a gallon, what was there for a family man to complain about? They were better off than we are today. I think you're talking maybe about the depression years, 1929-1941.
Discipline dosent mean abuse, you know that childish silent treatment shit women do? It's a form of discipline, or that sleep on the coach bullshit I would never do.
Not sure where you heard men do it cause all I van think of is the petty manipulative forms of "discipline " women do.
Because it was an extremely different culture nearly 70 years ago. Women were still pretty much 'owned' by their husbands. At least we've moved forward somewhat. Still a lot of places around the world where a woman must be subservient or they risk everything.
Back in the day women were just considered as their husband property, they didn't technically have no freedom they only were housewives and their lives were controlled by the men in her life. I ain't saying I am proud of that history but unfortunately it's history it basically the same with us minorities we were literally white people property as well.
WOW.
Think about what ur saying for real because Woman haven't gotten any better.
They now try to act like they are the Men in a relationship an will try to tell a Man what to fucking do that shit is getting really out of hand an that's in God we all trust.
So if u don't like then dont go out with Men.
At least a real Man we are the king's not the Damn Queens.
God Bless
Well you sure are acting like a princess there Bub lol.
What’s wrong with women having equal standing to men in society? Equality should be celebrated not shunned. I’m a very passive domestic woman that loves to please others but I don’t begrudge stronger, more passionate women for striving towards their own goals on life.
Yes if they can do it in a respectful way but not like they have been doing for a very long time.
I my self have a nice 5 bed room home an all my bill's are paid I do what I am post to do by the Bible not by woman an as a Man an I still can't find a honest Woman an y'all say y'all want an honest Man.
Then why do y'all act like y'all do by cheating on me an such an taking money when it's not your's just because u live in my home then I have no choice but to put y'all out.
An I have two job's.
God Bless
Maybe you just haven’t met the right woman yet? It’s obvious you’ve been hurt by some in your past but we arnt all like that. You can’t paint an entire sex with one brush.
People will always do what society deems to be okay. Slavery has proven this. If society says that it is okay to do, people will do it. Thankfully we live in times where none of these things are considered to be morally correct anymore. And people say we are no better today than we were then...
It's just sad that so many here pretend they don't know what you are talking bout when up to 1920 it was legal for men to beat their wives. Not only that, but when it became illegal men took the streets to protest against it. Was 100 years ago, not 50. Sure. But do you really think the generation those men taught did much better?
My grandfather did hit my grandmother. And my mother. And my uncles. And me. That was his way to teach.
Make America Great Again
There has always been domestic violence, and both men and women do it. The official government statistics show that 1 in 4 women and 1 in 7 men have been victims of severe physical violence (e. g. beating, burning, strangling) by an intimate partner in their lifetime. So let's not pretend it's just a thing of the past and that women aren't guilty too.
women act like children they are stupid
there is a reason more women end up in hell
they do not want to be accountable
but they will be,
no matter what
MEN AND GOD WILL MAKE SURE OF THAT
Hey Anonymous, just what the blazes are you talking about? Women act like children? They don't want to be accountable? I haven't read that God resigned and appointed YOU to be his successor! I really don't know what you're talking about.
@Keyboardkat
Ecclesiastes 7:28
while I was still searching
but not finding
I found one upright MAN among a 1000,
but not one upright WOMAN among them ALL.
Proverbs 5:5
Her feet go down to death; her steps take hold on hell 
Hosea 2
plead with your mother for she is not my wife
neither am I her husband
for she has played the harlot
for she must change her ways before I strip her naked
for I will not show mercy upon her children
for they are the children of whoredom
and now I will find her
with her lover
AND NO ONE SHALL DELIVER HER OUT OF MY HAND 
Act like children. Oh the irony of this post.
its all over the internet
there was a whole study on your girls
the study is out now
women are basically grown children
trying to play adult
trying to lead when you are not suppose to
You're gonna have to be more specific, before I can weigh in on this. There's keeping someone in line, and there's crossing one yourself. Without specific examples, I can't rule one way or the other.
Well I think they were kinky back then and I think she wanted to get spanked now not in all cases though I hear you what you're saying but I'd rather look at the Kink Factor LOL
I sure wouldn't do something like that, it just isn't something you should do to someone you care about.
Take it to the bedroom if they are into some playful spanking, tickling, edging is fine, but not to be mean about it.
If this was actually a thing in the 1950s I’m not aware of it. Sounds to me like the term “discipline” was a euphemism for abuse, and still is.
They didn't.
Women were not given the vote, right to work, or own property then. Even Blacks were in the same boat.
Thus abusing Blacks or women was not really a punishable offense.
This response might seem a little 'deep' but It takes the world to do the right thing to realise what it was doing before, was so wrong!
It was rare for men to do that. It’s ok if feminazis want to claim that. They have to make themselves feel better about weighing 300 lbs and having to have sex with women because no men want them.
Well they stopped and look how well things are going.
Jokes aside I think a little verbal discipline is perfectly reasonable, but hitting a woman is distasteful and unacceptable even back then.
You say that but it's not like women have always shared the same rights asen by that itself shows women where not as valued
Because they viewed women as being beneath them and second class citizens
Sooo it's cool to beat your wife or not?
Its cool to spank your wife. Absolutely.
Amber heard behavior is probably why, women need discipline just as much as any human.
Um what the heck? It’s not ok to hurt anyone especially someone you love.
Nope, if your child doesn't know what the boundaries are you need to show them. Same with women if they're willing to test your boundaries and she finds out you have non she will 100% take advantage of the situation. Same goes for men too, human only treat each other based on what they can get away.
That’s a very cynical view to take. Love and kindness are a thing you know. And it’s not right to abuse anyone, child, wife or husband. Violence is never the answer and will only cause more harm mentally in the long run.
I would be upset and give her the cold shoulder for a while. Especially if it was unjustified.
Passive aggressive is just how I role when upset. I’ve never been the fire type. And why not? The silent treatment is very effective when I comes to showing someone they fucked up and are sorry.
And no thanks I love men and only men. Especially dominant men.
Hey don’t just dismiss me like that!
Excuse me!
Regardless it’s rude to just blatantly dismiss someone in the middle of a conversation!
Sigh well you have a great night then I guess. Take care.
What do you mean the 50s? We're here doing it in 2022.
Not really. Women surely has less Independence but not all were abused.
*had
I have no idea where you get your information. I know that males in my family did not hit any female. I was thought not to hit women. I also know that when people got drunk there were fights outside my family and abuse.
it says, "I was thought not to hit women" Do you mean "taught"?
I do not think there was anything uniform about that. Probably some did.
Not saying it's right but male aggression balances female manipulation.
Its right
If you think of such a thing you are probably out of reality. You probably live in some highly lysergic acid-abusing feminist narrative.
Different dumb time. Just how they were raised to think. Not much to it other than that. Love wasn't poplurlarly expressed like now. Mostly love was the feeling you get from cumming. Men didn't have time to give much more shit than that.
Because women are emotionally unstable like children
We are not!!
Ofc you’re not hun 😘 whatever you say🙄
doesn't mean they deserve being disciplined.
They didn't all do that. Probably not that much more prevalent than now.
Same reason why women "discipline" their husbands in the 50's
Wtf lol
It's called abuse and I guess it was easier to get away with back then.
I don't where you come from, but this didn't happen where I live as as I am aware.
that's interesting i grew up in the 50's I never saw that, did see my mom rip my dad a new one a few times
because society didn't want the world to be fucked up like it is now
actually, that's not true. The world's f*&ck&d up because these things happened.
I had no idea that even happened, assuming this is not some made-up feminist complaint.
Because blood makes the best lube :)
Women behaved better. Compare the 50's women to now and there's a big difference
There are still many countries where it still happens. Its heartbreaking
I am kind of suspicious that it was even true that men would commonly do that even back then.
Why? It’s not like domestic abusive isn’t a massive problem even nowadays.
Because I don't think there was ever a time where it was legal for a man to abuse his wife nor was it even encouraged. A society that encourages the endangerment of their very means of producing the next generation is one that will see an end very shortly.
I like your comment.
Another problem with religion.
They're doing that right now in Afghanistan
You got a funny definition of Love ❤️
The hell should I know im 35
In the 1950's most women were actually happy.
and they weren't getting disciplined either or so I'm reading from some comments.
Because of women like amber herd
Thats what happens when women marry misogynists.
because women didn't have many rights then
Why do women raise their hand to men nowadays?
because they probably deserve it.
You lack some discipline 😏✋🍑
I'm guessing that still happens nowadays.
LMFAO
Why are they now?
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