As many are pointing out, there has always been domestic abuse —it’s violence like any other crime. What I think some are missing is the insidious thing about many centuries is that it was not considered crime but legally sanctioned and promoted as family values. These advertisements are are not considering this abuse or violence but discipline. Like the directive of beating your wide with a stick, as long as it was not thicker than two fingers.
This wasn’t a 1950s thing specifically just that they had ridiculous adds. I’d never believe this stuff was real if I didn’t see them. I can’t imagine anyone getting married at all growing up In that world. Tho I imagine no one took those things seriously, tho jokes aside, still women lacked rights I’ve their bodies in relation to Men. Rape for example, was not even considered a criminal act until relatively recently. The first case brought to trial was 1978.(in US)
As long as we live in a world where plundering pillaging rape kidnap and murder are NORMAL acts of conflict and countries regularly destroy other counties for the resources somehow WITH public support —if the PR team is good enough and the story is sellable. Women create life, which is the most valuable essential facet of any society- its people. Women, like people native to a land rich in natural resources, in constant date of defense from potential foreign invaders, often exhausted from blocking wars of aggression, Women will targeted for their resources & women will be at risk of subjugation. This isn’t about men vs women but a world that seeks Power over over life rather than balance & unity with life, power over one’s natural resources, body like is an on going battle. in my opinion
It was just a different time. In some places it still happens today.
It was a fairly common thing growing up and chatting to various people, it was just a thing, it was almost normality.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2137649/Only-Mad-Woman-50s-golden-age-No-career-No-mortgage-No-bank-account-A-husband-wouldnt-lift-finger--dont-started-girdles-A-new-book-says-forget-nostalgia.html
https://www.historic-uk.com/CultureUK/The-1950s-Housewife/
In the UK at least women had very few actual rights or the ability to do anything in society, especially down from the middle class, working class families were headed by the husband, he gave out punishments to the kids and his wife in equal measure.
even when I was a kid, it happened that you would visit a friends house and their mother had a black eye or similar, answering back was not a thing you did.
I did not talk to my dads father as he was a total cunt.
while one of the articles above mentions women and pubs, around Newcastle women were not allowed full stop in to any bar, lounge with husband but that was it, all working man’s clubs were men only unless it was a function on then could take wife (that went on until I think the 1970 - 1980’s).
Obviously other more affluent regions may have had less abuse, there was a chance the mother went to college or even maybe a teacher.
working class areas, you left school at 16 and it was Shipyards, steel works or mines for the guy and house work for the woman, nearly all married off by 20.
So honestly you don't give enough context to this question to just give an honest answer to.
So I will say there is no excuse for physical abuse, but I have been assaulted by a women before. I didn't hit her back, but when I easily put her on her ass, she was like "How dare you, I should call the cops!" Like she didn't just attack me... so there is a degree of bullshit to all of this.
I also find the whole he emotionally or mentally abused me. Because I have been put through so much bullshit by women in my life time. I never considered it mental or emotional abuse at the time. But it was abuse, I just never saw myself as a victim. But I been with women when every other word I said was soooo abusive. I mean the thing about emotional or mental abuse is that they can literally take anything you say and twist into something completely not true. I am like seriously women? You're fucking crazy.
So 50 years old or not, let's not pretend she's a perfect person and this guy is just coming out of nowhere with his shit. She's probably fucking with him some how, but he should not be hitting her. He should just dump her ass and do better for himself.
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u You believe that this was commonplace in the 1950's? Where?
I believe in discipline just not physical.
Sad truth is eventually your woman will have to be put in her place for the sake of the longterm health of the relationship. She has to respect you and your authority as the leader in the relationship.
Overtime girls need to be reminded that you're still the man she fell in love with and she'll consciously or unconsciously test you in small ways. If you fail one test it results in misbehaviors.
If you let it slide she'll do another misbehavior. Mishandling those leads to a relationship you hate and usually her leaving because in her heart and mind you "changed". When realistically you were just trying to just love and cherish her.
a lot of good men mess up by being incapable of appropriately handling these moments and the girl doesn't even realize she's doing it most of the time.
Deep down your woman should know if she did xyz misbehavior that you would kick her to the curb because you're a man and won't put up with it. If she doesn't know it anymore she does a little test.
Like girls who ask a man to do something specifically just to see if he'll actually do it
So, I think it goes back to evolutionary biology, let me explain.
Amongst many things, men want to ensure that the women they are with are with them only and not other men. This can be for a few reasons, but perhaps one that stands out is that it is to ensure children from her are his and not someone else’s.
Men want absolutely loyal women.
They don’t want women who want to be with the whole football team if that makes any sense.
In this case, men are quite protective & territorial.
How does this relate to men disciplining their wives in the 50s? Well, for one, this has probably been going on for centuries upon centuries before the 50s and still after in many places on earth.
The answer? Well, what do you think the discipline is for? Pretty much what I explained above.
Sexual loyalty.
If a woman cheated, flirted, or exposed herself unnecessarily with another man or other men.
If a woman’s behaviour has deteriorated to the point that physical discipline is required, it is time to blow her out of an airlock and get another one.
My former wife carried on like a neurotic lunatic one day, until I lost patience and put her over my knee.
The third time that my hand made contact with her arse, she had a powerful orgasm. At that point I realised that she had wanted me to do that.
Since that revelation, I have learned that more than a few females go ‘out of pocket’ because they want their man to go cave man on them.
I suspect that the behaviour is somewhere in the Daddy Issues category.
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I think maybe the values systems that our ancestors practiced for thousands of years are more sustainable than the values systems we've only recently made up and have already collapsed the family and sent civilization into a tailspin.
"Love" is an unhelpful, subjective term.
Women wanted resources & protection, men wanted loyalty & obedience in return for providing them. That was the deal. That was what kept marriages and societies together. Not "love."
I don’t know how common it was I’m sure it was more common than it is nowadays because people have always been fucked up it’s just now people are put on blast more so people are behaving more. It’s not just men that have been doing fucked up shit. There’s homes for native Americans that were run by nun’s that did some seriously evil shit to children. I’m not trying to shift attention I’m just saying there’s scumbags everywhere in all shapes sizes colors and sexes and the only reason I can come up with is they’re evil and get off on feeling better and having power over someone else. What I really don’t understand is how does a group of people like these nuns that ran those homes how do they get together and start doing evil shit and they all are cool with it. Are there really demons on this planet that are pulling strings how do these people find each other before the internet that is
I spanked my wife for disobeying me once. Now she disobeys me just to get spanked.
🤣🤣🤣 I'm totally kidding.
Seriously, I agree with you 100%. The idea of a man abusing a woman is beyond fucked up. She is not his property. Neither person is the boss in a healthy relationship.
I grew up in the 1950s and what you say is false. My dad, for example, never laid a hand on my mother to hurt her! And that's how I was brought up. I never saw or heard of anyone else doing any such thing, either. It was not legal to assault your wife, as though she were a donkey or a horse or something you owned!
Now I wasn't around during the 1920s, so I can't speak for that time.
Discipline dosent mean abuse, you know that childish silent treatment shit women do? It's a form of discipline, or that sleep on the coach bullshit I would never do.
Not sure where you heard men do it cause all I van think of is the petty manipulative forms of "discipline " women do.
Because it was an extremely different culture nearly 70 years ago. Women were still pretty much 'owned' by their husbands. At least we've moved forward somewhat. Still a lot of places around the world where a woman must be subservient or they risk everything.
Back in the day women were just considered as their husband property, they didn't technically have no freedom they only were housewives and their lives were controlled by the men in her life. I ain't saying I am proud of that history but unfortunately it's history it basically the same with us minorities we were literally white people property as well.
WOW.
Think about what ur saying for real because Woman haven't gotten any better.
They now try to act like they are the Men in a relationship an will try to tell a Man what to fucking do that shit is getting really out of hand an that's in God we all trust.
So if u don't like then dont go out with Men.
At least a real Man we are the king's not the Damn Queens.
God Bless
People will always do what society deems to be okay. Slavery has proven this. If society says that it is okay to do, people will do it. Thankfully we live in times where none of these things are considered to be morally correct anymore. And people say we are no better today than we were then...
It's just sad that so many here pretend they don't know what you are talking bout when up to 1920 it was legal for men to beat their wives. Not only that, but when it became illegal men took the streets to protest against it. Was 100 years ago, not 50. Sure. But do you really think the generation those men taught did much better?
My grandfather did hit my grandmother. And my mother. And my uncles. And me. That was his way to teach.
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There has always been domestic violence, and both men and women do it. The official government statistics show that 1 in 4 women and 1 in 7 men have been victims of severe physical violence (e. g. beating, burning, strangling) by an intimate partner in their lifetime. So let's not pretend it's just a thing of the past and that women aren't guilty too.
women act like children they are stupid
there is a reason more women end up in hell
they do not want to be accountable
but they will be,
no matter what
MEN AND GOD WILL MAKE SURE OF THAT
You're gonna have to be more specific, before I can weigh in on this. There's keeping someone in line, and there's crossing one yourself. Without specific examples, I can't rule one way or the other.
Well I think they were kinky back then and I think she wanted to get spanked now not in all cases though I hear you what you're saying but I'd rather look at the Kink Factor LOL
I sure wouldn't do something like that, it just isn't something you should do to someone you care about.
Take it to the bedroom if they are into some playful spanking, tickling, edging is fine, but not to be mean about it.
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