So here's the thing to think about the government giving away free phones we will go cashless and everything will be done all transactions will be done on our phones true covid-19 all of a sudden these games came out where you can win cash for the beginning of the pandemic but when you win those games you don't win anyting they never pay anybody do you read the third party the third party is our government that is getting the information from our phones so if you're given government shit on here or anywhere else they're going to know it when you go to buy your food and you pull out your phone they could say sorry this transaction cannot go through error this transaction cannot go through they can control anything they want to with you and that's where we are headed then what are we going to do with Nico takes over the United States it's not going to be in America anymore it's going to be called something else if it's called something else that means our constitution is flushed down the toilet I think they'll be a revolution before then though see that's why Putin and don't get me wrong I don't like Putin at all what he's doing is totally wrong and he's gone about it the wrong way that's why Putin doesn't want to go with me though because he wants his Russian people to live a free life he doesn't want to be under anybody else has them America is so fucking stupid our politicians excuse me they sold out today. And now little by little they're working their way in but it's going to take first gas prices to go Sky High food goes Sky High until there is no more food they control everything that's why they say yes come across your borders it's okay because one day everybody's going to be hungry and if there's going to be killing each other for food they're already trying to get rid of the police departments in all cities because they want NATO's Police Department to take over
Would I be open to a cashless society? Absolutely NOT!
With digital currency, it's the Gov't or some other entity that 100% controls YOUR money. It can be encoded to ONLY be used for certain things (you're limited to shopping at certain stores, spending YOUR money for specific items, etc...).
Additionally, there goes private sales - garage sales, vehicles, homes, land, entertainment items, and so on. The LAST thing I'd want is Gov't intrusion on something like that!
Imagine going to a yard sale and buying a table that would work perfectly in your home. Under a cashless system, the seller would have to register with the state Gov't that they were holding a sale of personal items, then collect sales tax, register the total of sales, and the seller's income from that would be... next to nothing.
Right now, if my neighbor was selling their gun and I liked it, we could negotiate a price (cash, cash plus maybe a couple of my tools, maybe trade my services to fix their roof and downspouts, etc...), and the sale would be complete. A cashless society doesn't allow for that.
Also cashless is something hackers and fraudsters want badly.
I've been on public wifi and I'm not even a very good at hacking, but I've hacked other devices, phones and stuff and seen username passwords to bank accounts and I pretty much suck at it. Imagine people who know what the hell they are doing.
Another example is my work came out with a biometric scanner for their main product, thinking cool, fingerprint scanner will make their software more secure. No more username and passwords.
Before it made it out of beta, some of us figured out... all you have to do is hack the connection between the database and the scanner, switch it from one fingerprint to yours and now your in.
They abandoned the idea cause it would of taken more resources than they wanted to dedicate to fixing it, with no guarantee of it ever being a 100% when someone could just hijack that and skip all the security. Granted it would not have been the average end user, but any half decent person could of figured it out.
I have never seen a single software setup that is a 100% hack proof.
Absolutely not. That gives the government for too much control and means you are living in totaltarian country. I would even eliminate legal tender laws and allowipeople to use any currency, whether government isssued or privately minted or created.
People definitely are not aware of what a cashless society means. You’re forgetting the social credit score that comes with it, and the government’s ability to shut your funds off. What happens if the power goes down? If you think targeted ads are bad now, wait till you can no longer do business without a data trail. Remember when people who committed wrongthink in the last two years lost their jobs or ability to buy and sell? Imagine what happens when a government thug decides you’ve committed wrongthink in the future, but nobody accepts the cash in your rainy day fund for groceries or rent or car payments? Do you really want to live in a world where there is no longer any way at all to resist government? They and their media lackeys are pushing cashless society as hard as they are because it’s the last but if freedom we as individual human beings have left. You own an AR or other gun? They can drone strike you from space. You own precious metals? A very few states are letting you pay with them, but it’s still face value only. Good luck with that long term if you don’t own a metals mine and government licensed mint. You have a 401k or other market based retirement plan? Don’t make me laugh. Cash is body armor in economic warfare between statists and freedom lovers, which of course is why they are trying so hard to make it worthless. Crypto is a nuclear weapon, which can detonate corrupt governments and their drunken sailor operated printing presses everywhere. It is simultaneously offense and defense, which terrifies the hard leftists currently in power who are watching their grip on their tax cattle slip away.
No. As long as workers can get cash tips, cash will not disappear. When there is enough inflation, the country (ies) will need some sort of fiat money. And, unless the credit card company gives bonus points for food stores, I pay for "current consumables" with cash. That would be all food, and many small meals out. I'm not going to burn my credit line on stuff that will disappear- or at least turn to poop- within a couple days. Furniture, landscaping, appliances, etc. get charged, but I still pay off the card in full each month. Bohemian easy payment plan - 100% down!
Absolutely, positively NOT! That means that every single transaction is traced and taxed. Zero privacy. It means that the bank controls your money and can freeze or take it without your permission. The goal of cashless society is to institute a social credit score system and have complete control over people's lives. There will be no escape.
Cashless society is a society where your money isn't yours. You can't take it away, it can be blocked anytime, for any reason, it can be given without your consent, and if someday there's a technical issue, you have no money anymore. Basically, banks and your government own you.
no. internet goes down, someone decides to cancel my credit or turn off bank account... I'm screwed. no way... too much govt power. were americans, we don't like "kings".
"pay no attention to the man behind the curtain", The wizard of "oz".
No absolutely not, cash is still king. Over the last couple of years there have been a couple of technical outages tgat affected card terminals, meaning for periods of time people who only had access to digital cash could not purchase anything. If we moved to a completely digital cash system then it would become a much greater target to hackers, while physical cash remains secure.
The picture you posted explains my thoughts perfectly on this. I oppose cashless society. Also, a cashless society makes it much easier for the government to implement the Mark of the Beast and decide who can buy and sell and who cannot.
Good points 1) No more tax forms 2) Harder for terrorist 3) No illegal drug deals 4) Easier to shop 5) Drug Lords will use Gold and Silver instead , raising value of metals
Bad points 1) No privacy 2) Harder on small businesses and more expensive 3) Gov't will start social point system to punish people 4) Limits on what you can buy like Cigarettes , alcohol., pot, Sugar , and Meat (forced thinness ) Wow , you could have used this in High School 5) You will be taxed for things you think you shouldn't
Like on Etsy , Gov't will count all sales as income even though I have cost I bought item , shipping, Etsy fees , and etc.
Cash is King! Hence the reason e-currency in wallets exist! From time immemorial, people prefer cash jingling in their pockets, greasing palms and ensuring more intimate and/or less scrupulous business transactions can occur throughout history. Banks only exist because of the trust people put in them. Nothing will suppress the blackmarket. There will ALWAYS be the freedom and democracy of untraceable money flowing seamlessly, surreptitiously between hands.
Personally, I see some advantages to extremely portable cash. I find it gratifying to feel the weight of the coins in my pocket even though I could lose them!
Cash will never disappear, especially in rural areas, if national banks try they will get a hell of a shock as customers walk away to credit unions, especially in the UK were we have building societies which also provide banking services, along with that, employees would no longer accept their wages being paid into bank accounts and go back to demanding weekly pay packets and paying their bills in cash instead of direct debit or standing orders.
Never ever. Absolutely not. Cash means a certain freedom which we would sacrifice once everything becomes visible, controllable and can instantly be locked down if you're not obedient. Even if such a system were to be introduced clandestine trading would instantly be booming.
I do not like a cashless society. Sometimes I like to do construction jobs in cash only. I also love to buy things in cash it's not traceable. With a cashless society they know where you're at what you're doing and what you're buying. That takes away our free agency of doing things. We are in somewhat of a cashless society. You receive your paycheck direct to your bank. You can also see your account or your bank account pay your debts online.
No... To easy to control or restrict income at whom. But it will inevitably happen because higher ups need it and will make many think it's a great thing and necessity. They've slowly reduced coins and many are told to think money is dirty so less eliminate or social distance cash. Yeah... No!
I know what you're saying. But for all intents and purposes. We're already a cashless society. I really don't see it changing (at least not anytime soon) from where we're at, barring a collapse of society. Most large purchases and bills are paid cashless. I always like to keep a little cash on hand just in case a place I visits card reader, ATM, or what have you is on the fritz. I might not be able to always get what I want but with a little cash I can always still get the essentials.
Doesn't make sense yet, but soon it might be alright. Ciurrently if your phone ran out or if your card stops working you could get stuck not being able to get a train for example. We don't have great enough reliability in my opinion. Once we solve this, we should be good to go.
I pretty much live cashless now. I pay for almost everything with a credit card that I pay off at the end of each month. I only carry a small amount of cash with me anymore, since it's rarely needed.
No. Electronics can shut down. Also our bodies aren't meant to have foreign objects in it. I'm willing to bet not everyone's body could have that chip put in without allergic reactions.
Although I truly want to weigh-in and voice an opinion, I'm taken aback by how complicated an issue this is when it comes to privacy, social status/class assignments, power/control issues, etc. Thanks for exploding my mind.
Ooh, fancy! Autocorrect decided that "aluminum" needed to be capitalized and that "gland" needed to be plural. My device must be part of the conspiracy.
Cashless as in exchange-goods-trade... I could do with that up to a certain ''size''. Cashless as in enslaving myself to the banking System - no freaking way!
YOU think trying to fix a credit card problem now is bad now wait it only turn to shit 3hundred million credit cards or implants plus banks can do anything with your money you have no say. Buy and barter with gold or silver
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Heck no do you know how much trouble that is and then you have to go pay it off I got to drive out in rush-hour traffic to my bank and pay my credit card off I want cash nice and simple everything is over I don’t have to worry about pending bills
I don't personally use cash much.. I keep a small amount of it on hand just in case.. But to your question. No I would not be OK with a cashless society, mostly for the reasons you mentioned.
You get a banks statement instead showing how much you used to have in coins. Just like gold and silver certificates when they were discontinued. You don't get gold or silver for them anymore.
Even precious metals can collapse. If you use a Gold Standard, then if someoen discovers a large deposit of Gold by chance, they become rich and everyone else becomes poor for no rational reason.
I would have a government sponsored Crypto-currency backed by Real-Estate, not fiat.
it's probably true drug lords would then trade in gold and silver, but the police could track crime even easier: just track the addicts constantly buying gold and silver and never re-selling the gold and silver on legitimate markets. in such a scenario, If someone is hoarding a lot of precious metals, they are probably either a drug dealer or a drug user.
@Wade12345 Real estate itself is a good investments. Crypto involves the internet. That's where Government can look up your skirt and pull the plug on you.
Everyone comes together and agrees that everyone's time are equally important and no one's time is worth more than the other and no one is above another. Pretty simple right?
@daniela1982 no money would not exist... But let me ask you a question would you work harder if someone else worked harder than you when they didn't have to? For example lets say you work at xyz company and they recently hired a Hispanic immigrant that is used to working 80 hours a week and 7 days a week for less money than what you earn working 40 hours a week 5 days a week?
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