Yes, they should ABSOLUTELY be mandatory. Per the update, those men either don’t know how the system is literally rigged against them, or they’re too stoopid to care.
If you are asking the government to force you to take a test so you don't have to admit you don't trust your partner I suppose that can be included, sure. As long as anyone a woman accuses of fathering a child is also forced to take a test. Its only fair.
Of course, personally I'd prefer neither, and just give both men and women bodily autonomy. The state isn't supposed to be able to claim ownership over anyone's body parts. Or at least not in a civilized country. Any place where some beaurocrat can say "No, those are my parts, let me see them" is animalistic and not a place for those who want peace.
@normalice. Unfortunately government mandates are already a fact of life. Whoever the mother identifies as the father will be required to pay child support for 18 years under threat of imprisonment. Why not have a verification that the right man is being sent to jail?
This is false as the guy can just claim he didn't sleep with her and refuse to give evidence. At present there is no way to collect a DNA sample from him without his consent (4th amendment violation).
@normalice. Not true. Whoever the mother identifies as the "father" will automatically be made to pay child support. Simply on her say so, the man is committed to paying for the child. The burden of proof always falls on the man. Still more, even with a negative DNA test the man is still on the hook for child support until a court accepts the DNA tests (which can take months or more), and finally orders his name removed from the birth certificate. Does the man get the money he paid back? Nope, not a dime. Does the mother get any punishment or sanction? Nope, not at all.
Sorry, i understand that bullshit is effective fertilizer for the incel farms but in real life men can simply deny having had sex with her or claim that she slept with other men. That's enough reasonable doubt for any court if law I've ever heard if.
No, why make them mandatory? In most cases, there is no doubt who the father is. Make them optional, and let the mother, should-be father and claimed father have the legal right to require one when there's a question.
Interesting results. 75% of guys would like paternity tests to be mandatory while only about 50% of girls want mandatory paternity tests. Guys seem to want them to determine who the father is not (preventing paternity fraud) while girls seems to want them to determine who the father is (making sure the father takes responsibility). Very interesting.
Nah But we need it for Chickens 🐓 They Cheat on there boyfriend and Say it’s his kid only to get him on child support. A new Trend should exist That thing is not my Kid until you and me take a Test.
I think it’s fair, matter of fact…it should be included in your hospital birthing services. Every man should be offered one and he decided if he wants it or not.
I'm pretty sure people already have it, how else did they mark your blood type at birth and as a child to get into school your parents took you in for some immunization and you pee'd lol they been had it
Yes but they never will. As all those men raising kids they thought were their own biologically would drop them real quick. And big daddy government is not willing to help support all these kids.
I don't think they should be mandatory. But if you are willing to pay for it then I think they shouldn't be allowed to reject it. Otherwise they can't make claims.
Yea and if infidelity is found the state should be given custody of the child and the mother should be imprisoned or put into a female hysteria clinic until she can’t have children anymore.
They are mandatory in child support cases you cum in her without protection then pay the price with roe vs wade hope that might slow that down, but stupid people will still be stupid
No. I'm not interested in some private (or public) company having access to my child's DNA. I'd rather just walk away with the child if the father doesn't trust me. I'm in general against anything that's mandatory, I like freedom.
Sure. Once they got it, you have zero control over it. Please tell me, how would you enforce it? How would you verify that this information is secure? It's actually very valuable stuff for some people with not so good intentions. That's why it was so retarded of people to be sending their DNA to the hereditary kits companies. It later came out that one of those companies sold their database of 5 mil people's DNA to a pharmaceutical company. The covid tests were also designed with that purpose I believe, to collect DNA information about people. If I were stupid enough to get pregnant with a guy who doesn't understand it or who's suspicious and insecure enough that he'd demand such a test, I'd cut my loses and raise the child by myself and look for a partner with a bit more brain in his head. No woman with a shred of dignity, who's not completely broke and desperate would agree to such treatment. I wouldn't and I've never cheated on any of my partners so it's not because "I have something to hide". Also, men who are so suspicious of women shouldn't have sex with them in the first place. It's that simple - I don't trust someone, I don't have sex with them. And to use their insecurity to make it mandatory for everyone else, people who unlike them are in committed marriages just because they're too much of a coward to raise this problem directly with the mother of their child, the woman they fucked is really pathetic. It's your problem if you can't vet the person you engage with so don't make it everyone else's. If something like that was mandatory then I'd have my child abroad, no way would I ever agree to the paternity test. And no, I don't care about the father's money, I have enough of my own and he's free to go. I'd be more concerned with what traits he passed on to our child if such a stupid idea was born in his head. But again, it's not likely to ever become my problem because I decide whether I trust the person or not BEFORE I chose to have sex with them.
You're so simple minded. If a child is unlucky enough to be related to you then no amount of money can compensate them for that. On the flip-side, they might never even know, I heard that ignorance is bliss. God help you.
@Seinna. Do you realize that the two biggest ways to hurt a man are 1) Steal his child from him, and 2) defraud him into raising a child who biologically is not his.
To a man this is on par with a woman being raped by a stranger. This is a huge issue for men and you totally blow it off.
@Seinna. I am not a troll, I simply believe there are ZERO good arguments against mandatory paternity testing. Women desperate to escape accountability are the only arguments I hear.
“Oh let’s attempt to force women to stay pregnant assuming a baby will actually come out of my rape mentality law but let’s also force women to give their blood too”
I can also say women have more rights than men. www.youtube.com/watch and the fact that you like to downplay it without proving anything, is also another proof of how much men's rights is declined.
And you're also lying if you say men have more rights. However, i never said women have more rights. You're saying men have more rights which makes you lying. At this point, all i can do is argue at your level if you just wanna ignore the facts. Just to get your own logic backfired.
Lol How did women benefit from the way the world was made when sexist men are the ones who made the laws, created biased beauty standards, created all the bad things in the world including rape, normalized abused, female oppression, etc
As if men have the choice when women don't like to do the dirty work to help humanity survive. It's only now you wanna "prove" your strength because in the modern world, no lions can eat you and you don't have to kill for your own food and let those men farm for you. (Most farmers, powerplant operators, sewer workers, miners, etc. workers to keep society alive are men) but all you see are "rapists, killers, or whatever just to give you excuses to pity yourself and blame men.
Oh by the way, when women rapes, kills, and commits crimes, they're more likely to get away with it. That's the "Women are wonderful effect" for you en.wikipedia.org/.../Women-are-wonderful_effect that women even from the old times take advantage of which is why they mostly don't endanger themselves also because they're more valuable because they can give birth while men can't.
All you wanna take a look at is "men creating the bad things" but if we talk about what good men did to this world and to keep entitled brats like you comfortable, you'd be like "Men don't let women do it" or "Women did it too but they're not credited as much" BS but you'd never say thesame thing when it comes to the negative side of men right? Because that's something called cherry picking
You are ridiculous and wildly delusional. Men had to do the hard work because you made it that way. The world is set this way because of you and men like you. Women had no rights. Women were forced to stay home, cook, and have babies, couldn’t even work, definitely couldn’t put in this so called hard work you speak of. Women have been fighting for equality for decades, still is. How the hell can women do whatever hard work you’re referring to when sexist men like you makes it harder to live every single day? And sure men are farmers and all that crap (so are women) but men made rapists and killers and normalized it. A fact is a fact. There’s no excuses here. Just facts. You’re the one blinded by delusion to believe whatever pretty picture you want to paint here
Boo-hoo. Female killers, rapists, and criminals get away with it. Well guess what? So do men Dimwit
The bad that men had done to the world outweigh the good and you’re just full of male privilege pretending to be soooo oppressed. It’s quite pathetic. At least look at how all the systematic sexism and other bad things men created have negativety affected the world and will continue to for centuries to come
So you basically admitted that we are just robots to work and to die because we are made that way. Way to prove me right about men's rights not having to live luxuriously like women's. But you sure don't like to admit that women with your kind of mindset is what set the world like this. the "men are made that way" mindset then complain about how men just do what women want them to do. Again what choice do we have when most women just let men do the hunting and stuff? It's thesame as men not having the rights to be a stay home dad and get looked down by society including women if he's a weakling and unwilling to provide. And this the cherry picking i talked about. I noticed how you really like to bring out women in those work place. Like how you say "so are women" but you don't wanna say "so are women" when it comes to those rapists, murderers and other criminal stuff. You cherry picking is also a fact which is also a logical fallacy FYI. www.youtube.com/watch But I also talked about the difference such as they get a away with those kind of things more. The only thing you like to look at tho is how men "rule" the world but you also just like to ignore how much men are homeless, working as a low rank just to benefit the family and men comiting suicide more often than women and men being on top the corporate ladder don't really benefit the average men in any meaningful way. With that being said, you're just cherry picking to call someone "delusional" as if that's exactly how it works.
if all you can say is "so do men" and "so do women" then that would the case that both just do it and has nothing to do with just men normalizing it but "so do women". But yeah I see you're still looking for excuses to pity yourself and just blame men for mistakes you make.
Why is 99% of the population robots? Because of men. The only ones living a luxurious life with more rights than anyone regarding if the fact that we’re all playing this sick game is half the population of men. You’re the reason men and women commit suicide, that doesn’t fall on men. And pinpointing history isn’t cherry-picking, it’s just pointing out facts
99% of the world are robots? since when? ever since you starting being born? Because only delusional people would believe that that scifi is already happening now. And even if the world is 99% robots, chances are they're doing it so that spoiled brats like you don't have to move to work and so that you can work by just pressing a button. And by the way, you're not the only one sharing facts here. If you like to talk about one side then I talk about the other side which you hate so much. That's because you can't handle the bitter truth and only go with the truth you like
Here's more arguments for you tho. I'm not really surprised why most people would agree with this www.youtube.com/watch That's because most people aren't delusional like you.
As if you're better than youtube and wikipedia. Where's your qualification tho that i should believe a delusional moron feminist like you over a site that people can just easily reach?
More like it came from your cult which is why it's something people can barely reach and talk about. But of course we all know the truth about that gender studies class www.youtube.com/watchwww.youtube.com/watch All the argument there is basically "you're out of the class if you disagree with me" when one shows the other side of the story. And if you're so much better, where's the ratings? Because I can give you the ratio of 95% liking the videos and only 5% dislikes.
That's exactly what those fanatics do. Claiming the monopoly for certain topics and say "Anyone who don't believe us are evil and are going to hell" which are also considered a little group by the way. Like your own feminist "group" who calls the world a "cult"
It’s simple. Either you’re sexist or you aren’t. Either you’re homophobic or you aren’t. Either you’re racist or you aren’t. Either you support womens rights or you don’t. Etc. The people who aren’t those things aren’t evil; however, if you are those things, you are evil. It’s a simple fact not a “if you don’t believe us you’re evil”. You’re evil for a reason not because you don’t believe us. How you’re going to make up reasons normal people say you are the way you are?
Funny because you don't like to consider yourself either. Of course you don't believe you're being sexist when you ignore the other truth while you just attempt to call someone sexist or not in attempt to dismiss everything. I mean you're basically calling me sexist or evil or whatever, but I don't think you're normal tho. Because normal people don't call me that.
@KrakenAttackin A woman’s right to not donate her body for your causes.
And this interesting considering even braindead people have more rights than women. Somehow if they aren’t registered to donate their organs, it’s illegal to steal them even if they will save peoples lives. Yet women can’t even own our own damn uteruses. You people are true psychos and have the mentality of a rapist
Also maybe because those braindead people don't act like a karen in like you do. You also just like to forget that abortion is also legal in other places but sure you would like to give credit to women because of that and don't blame pro-life women for the cause of banning abortion in other places. Still as one-sided as ever which is why I cannot take you seriously for claiming you're being factual here.
@Po1989 Well however it works. The host, as you people view pregnant women, still have to do something against her will. Still have to provide anything for you. FOR YOU not her
How it works is by taking a DNA sample from the father - or the man who is claimed to be the father. This isn't just for his benefit but also for the child. The child really should be allowed know who their father is.
@Aiko_E_Lara The name “Karen” with made for racists like you. And before you deny it (maybe), You’re all pretty darn predictable. If you’re a sexist, you’re most likely also every other anti human thing: homophobic, whatever phobic there is so don’t get it twisted Dimwit. I already made you look like the idiot you are. Why would I waste my time conversing with a lost cause? You’re no one
And of course we're going to reach to the point where you're going to bring out the race card in this as an excuse to just be butt hurt. I mean what else can you say when you can't even debunk a single thing? Because your go to argument would just be calling someone a sexist or a racist or a homophobia or whatever and call it a day. Look if you think everyone has problems then maybe the problem is you.
Why are you assuming it's being tested on an unborn baby? 1. You don't need to do anything with the mothers body if you're testing a new born for paternity. She would only need to be involved if a test had to be run before the baby is born. 2. An unborn baby will become a new born baby and then they will grow up. I don't get why you're thinking the unborn baby will stay a fetus forever? Of course you could wait to test a baby after its born.
@Aiko_E_Lara You just keep proving how stupid you are. I didn’t play the race card, you did. “Karen” is a term FOR racists, how are you not getting that 🙄
@Po1989 Because obviously the point I was making to begin with was the idea that it’s a fetus not a baby.
After the child is born, it has two parents not just one so of course the father should know if he’s actually the father or not (if he wants). The issue though is that it’ll cause problems between both parents but why would I deny potential fathers from knowing it’s his baby? OP wasn’t specific which form the baby to be was in, obviously I assumed it was a fetus
I believe that the baby before birth still has two parents, but I can see that you and I probably have different views on that and since it isn't really part of the OP's question I will leave that be. I don't think there's a need to do paternity tests before the baby is born in most cases.
^Of course it has two parents but the only one doing anything for the baby to be is the pregnant one, the mother. My views comes from the fact that women will never be respected so I disrespect back as a woman who knows how the world works
Paternity tests are specifically intended to prevent fraud and to show cheating. that is what they do. Anyone that doesn't want one just wants to hide their cheating and wants to commit fraud by deceiving the man into supporting a child that isn't his.
And what about the baby fraud men and the government commit against women? You think babies are free? At least some poor women are choosing to be poor by being willing to have their babies but what about women who the government are attempting to force to have babies? They will be poor and or have horrible lives because of you (or them)
Plus, I never said there shouldn't be paternity tests or whatever. Though, all it’ll do is cause relationship issues considering just because a woman wouldn’t want one doesn’t mean she cheated or anything. Seems quite offensive to me is all
Yeah you never said there shouldn't be a paternity test but there you are crying about it. Really though, just because you are offended just doesn't really make you right. Appealing to emotions is a logical fallacy and you should know that if you claim to be the "educated" one. You know I can also say just because we want paternity test to be mandatory, that doesn't mean we accuse women of cheating. But you just want to choose to get offended anyway just to get away with your little agenda
@Aiko_E_Lara How’s a dimwit going to jump into the conversation and don’t even know what he’s talking about? Tard the point of my original comment was for pregnant women slow brain NOT kids who are already born. IM not offended. Why would I be offended by idiots. I laugh at the likes of you. You’re nothing to be offended by. You look like a fool and wasting your finger work by sending useless crap I don’t even read because again, I don’t try to help lost causes. I just tell you what you are
And are you even sure you know what you're talking about? You literally said you get offended by paternity test but take a look at you and denying it right now so it kind of prove you don't know what you're saying. And also what about kids who already born taking the paternity test? You just want to hide what a slut you are by calling it "offensive"? When there's no real explanation why you claim it is and I don't think anyone can be laughing if they're offended. I mean you just like to call people more on for telling the truth. I have said before if everyone has problems then maybe the problem is you and if everyone are morons then maybe you have your own truth in your little delusional world. I mean you just like to contradict things at the end and "laugh" to hide how butthurt you are. No one really has to prove anything anymore when you said it yourself.
You know I can still continue to argue out your level and call you a delusion a little girl and stop making things up. At least comprehend what you are even saying
Dimwit, I ignored you for a time yet you still stalked me with your crappy comments. You obviously couldn’t take a grade school hint so I had to resort to words
It has everything to do with the subject of establishing paternity. To be fair I know just about as many males that are cheats and liars as I do females that lie and cheat. There is nothing wrong with an administrative process at birth. The mother names the childs father, then both the child and the "father" are swabbed. Then a provisional birth certificate is created. If the DNA testing confirms paternity that document becomes official. If the DNA does NOT confirm paternity then the matter goes to the family court to decide. We have the technology to make sure paternity is established, I see no good reason to not use it. ALSO, with so many diseases that are hereditary, it is of VITAL importance that paternity is clearly established.
Again, I answered this question (since it wasn’t clear) with assumption that the woman was still pregnant throughout this whole paternity testing thing. That’s it
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Yeah. Cause they're are whores in life that will sleep around
https://www.youtube.com/embed/yWwuqPxfEucYes, they should ABSOLUTELY be mandatory.
Per the update, those men either don’t know how the system is literally rigged against them, or they’re too stoopid to care.
I suppose if a guy denies he is the father it should be mandatory that he take a paternity test so he can start on those child support payments, yeah.
@normalice. And what about women who cheat and lie to make another man pay for the child?
If you are asking the government to force you to take a test so you don't have to admit you don't trust your partner I suppose that can be included, sure. As long as anyone a woman accuses of fathering a child is also forced to take a test. Its only fair.
Of course, personally I'd prefer neither, and just give both men and women bodily autonomy. The state isn't supposed to be able to claim ownership over anyone's body parts. Or at least not in a civilized country. Any place where some beaurocrat can say "No, those are my parts, let me see them" is animalistic and not a place for those who want peace.
@normalice. Unfortunately government mandates are already a fact of life. Whoever the mother identifies as the father will be required to pay child support for 18 years under threat of imprisonment. Why not have a verification that the right man is being sent to jail?
This is false as the guy can just claim he didn't sleep with her and refuse to give evidence. At present there is no way to collect a DNA sample from him without his consent (4th amendment violation).
"I can have it but you can't and you can't say that you can have it but I can't or you're a hypocrite"
-every hypocrite ever..
@normalice. Not true. Whoever the mother identifies as the "father" will automatically be made to pay child support. Simply on her say so, the man is committed to paying for the child. The burden of proof always falls on the man. Still more, even with a negative DNA test the man is still on the hook for child support until a court accepts the DNA tests (which can take months or more), and finally orders his name removed from the birth certificate. Does the man get the money he paid back? Nope, not a dime. Does the mother get any punishment or sanction? Nope, not at all.
Sorry, i understand that bullshit is effective fertilizer for the incel farms but in real life men can simply deny having had sex with her or claim that she slept with other men. That's enough reasonable doubt for any court if law I've ever heard if.
@normalice. What you are saying simply isn't true. The mother points a finger and the guy pays. It's that simple.
Simply said, sure, but that's just not how it works outside the right wing LARP media environment
No, why make them mandatory? In most cases, there is no doubt who the father is. Make them optional, and let the mother, should-be father and claimed father have the legal right to require one when there's a question.
Interesting results. 75% of guys would like paternity tests to be mandatory while only about 50% of girls want mandatory paternity tests. Guys seem to want them to determine who the father is not (preventing paternity fraud) while girls seems to want them to determine who the father is (making sure the father takes responsibility). Very interesting.
Nah But we need it for Chickens 🐓
They Cheat on there boyfriend and Say it’s his kid only to get him on child support.
A new Trend should exist
That thing is not my Kid until you and me take a Test.
That’s the social media Trend they should Create
I think it’s fair, matter of fact…it should be included in your hospital birthing services. Every man should be offered one and he decided if he wants it or not.
No idea.
I won't object if my husband wants it.
@Mia-Wallace. Lies. You would lose your mind if your husband asked for a paternity test.
Nah.
That said they should be mandatory if there is cause to have doubts. Reasonable cause. Not just jealous hate.
Nah only if they want too. Like my oldest son is a exact copy of my husband so would have been super ridiculous to do testing on him.
Absolutely. Every child born should know who it's father is.
When the girl requests child support they should be mandatory.
NO ONE is getting my blood and urine unless I volunteer it…
I'm pretty sure people already have it, how else did they mark your blood type at birth and as a child to get into school your parents took you in for some immunization and you pee'd lol they been had it
I’d get one but I’d be hurt with the trust sometimes it’s not about hiding things it’s like damn …you don’t trust me😐
@lovedejj_xo. Which is why it should be mandatory so he doesn't have to "ask" for the test.
Oh yea true then I’d be fine
Yes but they never will. As all those men raising kids they thought were their own biologically would drop them real quick. And big daddy government is not willing to help support all these kids.
I don't think they should be mandatory. But if you are willing to pay for it then I think they shouldn't be allowed to reject it. Otherwise they can't make claims.
Yea and if infidelity is found the state should be given custody of the child and the mother should be imprisoned or put into a female hysteria clinic until she can’t have children anymore.
They are mandatory in child support cases you cum in her without protection then pay the price with roe vs wade hope that might slow that down, but stupid people will still be stupid
No. I'm not interested in some private (or public) company having access to my child's DNA. I'd rather just walk away with the child if the father doesn't trust me. I'm in general against anything that's mandatory, I like freedom.
@Seinna. That is a straw man. The DNA data can easily be sanitized/protected by legislation.
Sure. Once they got it, you have zero control over it. Please tell me, how would you enforce it? How would you verify that this information is secure? It's actually very valuable stuff for some people with not so good intentions. That's why it was so retarded of people to be sending their DNA to the hereditary kits companies. It later came out that one of those companies sold their database of 5 mil people's DNA to a pharmaceutical company. The covid tests were also designed with that purpose I believe, to collect DNA information about people. If I were stupid enough to get pregnant with a guy who doesn't understand it or who's suspicious and insecure enough that he'd demand such a test, I'd cut my loses and raise the child by myself and look for a partner with a bit more brain in his head. No woman with a shred of dignity, who's not completely broke and desperate would agree to such treatment. I wouldn't and I've never cheated on any of my partners so it's not because "I have something to hide". Also, men who are so suspicious of women shouldn't have sex with them in the first place. It's that simple - I don't trust someone, I don't have sex with them. And to use their insecurity to make it mandatory for everyone else, people who unlike them are in committed marriages just because they're too much of a coward to raise this problem directly with the mother of their child, the woman they fucked is really pathetic. It's your problem if you can't vet the person you engage with so don't make it everyone else's. If something like that was mandatory then I'd have my child abroad, no way would I ever agree to the paternity test. And no, I don't care about the father's money, I have enough of my own and he's free to go. I'd be more concerned with what traits he passed on to our child if such a stupid idea was born in his head. But again, it's not likely to ever become my problem because I decide whether I trust the person or not BEFORE I chose to have sex with them.
@Seinna Spoken like a woman who wants the opportunity to defraud a man and child.
You're so simple minded. If a child is unlucky enough to be related to you then no amount of money can compensate them for that. On the flip-side, they might never even know, I heard that ignorance is bliss. God help you.
@Seinna. Do you realize that the two biggest ways to hurt a man are 1) Steal his child from him, and 2) defraud him into raising a child who biologically is not his.
To a man this is on par with a woman being raped by a stranger. This is a huge issue for men and you totally blow it off.
@Seinna. It's his fault because he chose a whore? You are giving the white a pass? She needs to be held accountable with criminal charges.
@Seinna. I am not a troll, I simply believe there are ZERO good arguments against mandatory paternity testing. Women desperate to escape accountability are the only arguments I hear.
If they were mandatory it would remove the stigma and guilt of asking for one.
This is a no brainer.
Why so Women’s Rights can keep declining?
“Oh let’s attempt to force women to stay pregnant assuming a baby will actually come out of my rape mentality law but let’s also force women to give their blood too”
Lol you people
You mean a woman's right to cheat and commit fraud?
@HighValue What does fraud and cheating have to do with anything? You people are just delusional
Ok then why are you so worry about the paternity test? Why, so men's rights can keep declining?
Declining? 🤣. Men literally have more rights than women. You don’t deserve even more. You actually deserve less rights but that doesn’t seem to happen
I can also say women have more rights than men. www.youtube.com/watch and the fact that you like to downplay it without proving anything, is also another proof of how much men's rights is declined.
Except you’ll be lying by saying women have more rights than men. Women doesn’t even have bodily autonomy rights and that’s huge. Men have that though
And you're also lying if you say men have more rights. However, i never said women have more rights. You're saying men have more rights which makes you lying. At this point, all i can do is argue at your level if you just wanna ignore the facts. Just to get your own logic backfired.
And sure just ignore all those rights mentioned in that video which are also huge
Except I’m not ignoring facts. You are. It’s a fact that men benefits in the way the world has been set more than women.
THen I'm not ignoring facts. You are. I can also say the fact that women benefits in the way the world has been set more than men.
Lol How did women benefit from the way the world was made when sexist men are the ones who made the laws, created biased beauty standards, created all the bad things in the world including rape, normalized abused, female oppression, etc
You’re delusional
As if men have the choice when women don't like to do the dirty work to help humanity survive. It's only now you wanna "prove" your strength because in the modern world, no lions can eat you and you don't have to kill for your own food and let those men farm for you. (Most farmers, powerplant operators, sewer workers, miners, etc. workers to keep society alive are men) but all you see are "rapists, killers, or whatever just to give you excuses to pity yourself and blame men.
Oh by the way, when women rapes, kills, and commits crimes, they're more likely to get away with it. That's the "Women are wonderful effect" for you en.wikipedia.org/.../Women-are-wonderful_effect that women even from the old times take advantage of which is why they mostly don't endanger themselves also because they're more valuable because they can give birth while men can't.
All you wanna take a look at is "men creating the bad things" but if we talk about what good men did to this world and to keep entitled brats like you comfortable, you'd be like "Men don't let women do it" or "Women did it too but they're not credited as much" BS but you'd never say thesame thing when it comes to the negative side of men right? Because that's something called cherry picking
You are ridiculous and wildly delusional. Men had to do the hard work because you made it that way. The world is set this way because of you and men like you. Women had no rights. Women were forced to stay home, cook, and have babies, couldn’t even work, definitely couldn’t put in this so called hard work you speak of. Women have been fighting for equality for decades, still is. How the hell can women do whatever hard work you’re referring to when sexist men like you makes it harder to live every single day? And sure men are farmers and all that crap (so are women) but men made rapists and killers and normalized it. A fact is a fact. There’s no excuses here. Just facts. You’re the one blinded by delusion to believe whatever pretty picture you want to paint here
Boo-hoo. Female killers, rapists, and criminals get away with it. Well guess what? So do men Dimwit
The bad that men had done to the world outweigh the good and you’re just full of male privilege pretending to be soooo oppressed. It’s quite pathetic. At least look at how all the systematic sexism and other bad things men created have negativety affected the world and will continue to for centuries to come
So you basically admitted that we are just robots to work and to die because we are made that way. Way to prove me right about men's rights not having to live luxuriously like women's. But you sure don't like to admit that women with your kind of mindset is what set the world like this. the "men are made that way" mindset then complain about how men just do what women want them to do. Again what choice do we have when most women just let men do the hunting and stuff? It's thesame as men not having the rights to be a stay home dad and get looked down by society including women if he's a weakling and unwilling to provide. And this the cherry picking i talked about. I noticed how you really like to bring out women in those work place. Like how you say "so are women" but you don't wanna say "so are women" when it comes to those rapists, murderers and other criminal stuff. You cherry picking is also a fact which is also a logical fallacy FYI. www.youtube.com/watch But I also talked about the difference such as they get a away with those kind of things more. The only thing you like to look at tho is how men "rule" the world but you also just like to ignore how much men are homeless, working as a low rank just to benefit the family and men comiting suicide more often than women and men being on top the corporate ladder don't really benefit the average men in any meaningful way. With that being said, you're just cherry picking to call someone "delusional" as if that's exactly how it works.
if all you can say is "so do men" and "so do women" then that would the case that both just do it and has nothing to do with just men normalizing it but "so do women". But yeah I see you're still looking for excuses to pity yourself and just blame men for mistakes you make.
Why is 99% of the population robots? Because of men. The only ones living a luxurious life with more rights than anyone regarding if the fact that we’re all playing this sick game is half the population of men. You’re the reason men and women commit suicide, that doesn’t fall on men. And pinpointing history isn’t cherry-picking, it’s just pointing out facts
Pointing out facts isn’t looking for excuses. You’re just uneducated, delusional or both. You can’t look past your own biases. Go back to school kid
99% of the world are robots? since when? ever since you starting being born? Because only delusional people would believe that that scifi is already happening now. And even if the world is 99% robots, chances are they're doing it so that spoiled brats like you don't have to move to work and so that you can work by just pressing a button. And by the way, you're not the only one sharing facts here. If you like to talk about one side then I talk about the other side which you hate so much. That's because you can't handle the bitter truth and only go with the truth you like
Stay delusional. I really don’t care
Here's more arguments for you tho. I'm not really surprised why most people would agree with this www.youtube.com/watch That's because most people aren't delusional like you.
Well you don't care how dumb you are. That's what delusional people do
You’re so stupid you get your news from faux news, Wikipedia, and YouTube. Stay dumb again, I don’t care
As if you're better than youtube and wikipedia. Where's your qualification tho that i should believe a delusional moron feminist like you over a site that people can just easily reach?
Yeah you don't care but it shows how much you care so much by coming back here to be pointless over and over again
Sources from a college data base Dimwit so yes, I am better than all those video talking, can be easily edited crap website you post here, even you.
More like it came from your cult which is why it's something people can barely reach and talk about. But of course we all know the truth about that gender studies class www.youtube.com/watch www.youtube.com/watch All the argument there is basically "you're out of the class if you disagree with me" when one shows the other side of the story. And if you're so much better, where's the ratings? Because I can give you the ratio of 95% liking the videos and only 5% dislikes.
Ofcourse i'd know because i have that "view youtube dislikes" extension in my google chrome.
You republicans are the definition of being in a cult. The fact that you accuse others of being in that shows how delusional you are
Ok so the whole world is a cult but your own little group. Still doesn't sound different
That's exactly what those fanatics do. Claiming the monopoly for certain topics and say "Anyone who don't believe us are evil and are going to hell" which are also considered a little group by the way. Like your own feminist "group" who calls the world a "cult"
It’s simple. Either you’re sexist or you aren’t. Either you’re homophobic or you aren’t. Either you’re racist or you aren’t. Either you support womens rights or you don’t. Etc. The people who aren’t those things aren’t evil; however, if you are those things, you are evil. It’s a simple fact not a “if you don’t believe us you’re evil”. You’re evil for a reason not because you don’t believe us. How you’re going to make up reasons normal people say you are the way you are?
Funny because you don't like to consider yourself either. Of course you don't believe you're being sexist when you ignore the other truth while you just attempt to call someone sexist or not in attempt to dismiss everything. I mean you're basically calling me sexist or evil or whatever, but I don't think you're normal tho. Because normal people don't call me that.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with calling a sexist what they are, sexist
@hIopinionated_. A woman's "right", to commit paternity fraud?
@KrakenAttackin A woman’s right to not donate her body for your causes.
And this interesting considering even braindead people have more rights than women. Somehow if they aren’t registered to donate their organs, it’s illegal to steal them even if they will save peoples lives. Yet women can’t even own our own damn uteruses. You people are true psychos and have the mentality of a rapist
So exactly there's nothing wrong with calling you sexist then. Because you just proved the double standard I was going to talk about
Also maybe because those braindead people don't act like a karen in like you do. You also just like to forget that abortion is also legal in other places but sure you would like to give credit to women because of that and don't blame pro-life women for the cause of banning abortion in other places. Still as one-sided as ever which is why I cannot take you seriously for claiming you're being factual here.
Women give their blood? Uh that's not how a paternity test works lol
@Po1989 Well however it works. The host, as you people view pregnant women, still have to do something against her will. Still have to provide anything for you. FOR YOU not her
How it works is by taking a DNA sample from the father - or the man who is claimed to be the father. This isn't just for his benefit but also for the child. The child really should be allowed know who their father is.
@Aiko_E_Lara The name “Karen” with made for racists like you. And before you deny it (maybe), You’re all pretty darn predictable. If you’re a sexist, you’re most likely also every other anti human thing: homophobic, whatever phobic there is so don’t get it twisted Dimwit. I already made you look like the idiot you are. Why would I waste my time conversing with a lost cause? You’re no one
@Po1989 I looked it up. That’s not the entire truth, you still have to use the mother’s body somehow to know anything.
And how would the fetus know anything, it’s inside the mother and doesn’t even have any viability to it’s own life
And of course we're going to reach to the point where you're going to bring out the race card in this as an excuse to just be butt hurt. I mean what else can you say when you can't even debunk a single thing? Because your go to argument would just be calling someone a sexist or a racist or a homophobia or whatever and call it a day. Look if you think everyone has problems then maybe the problem is you.
Why are you assuming it's being tested on an unborn baby?
1. You don't need to do anything with the mothers body if you're testing a new born for paternity. She would only need to be involved if a test had to be run before the baby is born.
2. An unborn baby will become a new born baby and then they will grow up. I don't get why you're thinking the unborn baby will stay a fetus forever? Of course you could wait to test a baby after its born.
@Aiko_E_Lara You just keep proving how stupid you are. I didn’t play the race card, you did. “Karen” is a term FOR racists, how are you not getting that 🙄
@Po1989 Because obviously the point I was making to begin with was the idea that it’s a fetus not a baby.
After the child is born, it has two parents not just one so of course the father should know if he’s actually the father or not (if he wants). The issue though is that it’ll cause problems between both parents but why would I deny potential fathers from knowing it’s his baby? OP wasn’t specific which form the baby to be was in, obviously I assumed it was a fetus
I believe that the baby before birth still has two parents, but I can see that you and I probably have different views on that and since it isn't really part of the OP's question I will leave that be. I don't think there's a need to do paternity tests before the baby is born in most cases.
^Of course it has two parents but the only one doing anything for the baby to be is the pregnant one, the mother. My views comes from the fact that women will never be respected so I disrespect back as a woman who knows how the world works
@hIopinionated_ Then just keep proving how delusional you are. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_(slang) I mean stuff i sent you got popular for a reason.
Because it happens. In fact, it happens a lot. There is NOTHING wrong with a man protecting himself from being the victim of paternity fraud.
Paternity tests are specifically intended to prevent fraud and to show cheating. that is what they do. Anyone that doesn't want one just wants to hide their cheating and wants to commit fraud by deceiving the man into supporting a child that isn't his.
And what about the baby fraud men and the government commit against women? You think babies are free? At least some poor women are choosing to be poor by being willing to have their babies but what about women who the government are attempting to force to have babies? They will be poor and or have horrible lives because of you (or them)
Plus, I never said there shouldn't be paternity tests or whatever. Though, all it’ll do is cause relationship issues considering just because a woman wouldn’t want one doesn’t mean she cheated or anything. Seems quite offensive to me is all
Yeah you never said there shouldn't be a paternity test but there you are crying about it. Really though, just because you are offended just doesn't really make you right. Appealing to emotions is a logical fallacy and you should know that if you claim to be the "educated" one. You know I can also say just because we want paternity test to be mandatory, that doesn't mean we accuse women of cheating. But you just want to choose to get offended anyway just to get away with your little agenda
@Aiko_E_Lara How’s a dimwit going to jump into the conversation and don’t even know what he’s talking about? Tard the point of my original comment was for pregnant women slow brain NOT kids who are already born. IM not offended. Why would I be offended by idiots. I laugh at the likes of you. You’re nothing to be offended by. You look like a fool and wasting your finger work by sending useless crap I don’t even read because again, I don’t try to help lost causes. I just tell you what you are
And are you even sure you know what you're talking about? You literally said you get offended by paternity test but take a look at you and denying it right now so it kind of prove you don't know what you're saying. And also what about kids who already born taking the paternity test? You just want to hide what a slut you are by calling it "offensive"? When there's no real explanation why you claim it is and I don't think anyone can be laughing if they're offended. I mean you just like to call people more on for telling the truth. I have said before if everyone has problems then maybe the problem is you and if everyone are morons then maybe you have your own truth in your little delusional world. I mean you just like to contradict things at the end and "laugh" to hide how butthurt you are. No one really has to prove anything anymore when you said it yourself.
@Aiko_E_Lara Delusional little boy stop making up stuff. At least comprehend things correctly before speaking
You know I can still continue to argue out your level and call you a delusion a little girl and stop making things up. At least comprehend what you are even saying
You don’t even make sense so you’re not arguing anything of substance, just things you keep making up
It doesn't take a genius to understand what I said. Maybe it's too much for your small brain to process
Again, be a pea size brain to someone else who doesn’t mind wasting their time on you. K and bye
So it's not going to be the last goodbye? because I don't think you understand what goodbye means. Not surprising knowing how small your brain is
Dimwit, I ignored you for a time yet you still stalked me with your crappy comments. You obviously couldn’t take a grade school hint so I had to resort to words
@Aiko_E_Lara You are arguing with a pig. You will only get dirty and the pig likes it.
@KrakenAttackin Didn’t I just tell your retard as to go finish getting pumped. You’re hard of hearing huh lol.
@hIopinionated_. Only a whore thinks this way.
@KrakenAttackin Ikr whore. It was literally your idea so how does it feel? Good? I hope not
It has everything to do with the subject of establishing paternity. To be fair I know just about as many males that are cheats and liars as I do females that lie and cheat. There is nothing wrong with an administrative process at birth. The mother names the childs father, then both the child and the "father" are swabbed. Then a provisional birth certificate is created. If the DNA testing confirms paternity that document becomes official. If the DNA does NOT confirm paternity then the matter goes to the family court to decide. We have the technology to make sure paternity is established, I see no good reason to not use it. ALSO, with so many diseases that are hereditary, it is of VITAL importance that paternity is clearly established.
Again, I answered this question (since it wasn’t clear) with assumption that the woman was still pregnant throughout this whole paternity testing thing. That’s it
Oh, of course, testing should wait until the child is born.