Do you think LGBTQ education should be mandatory in American schools?

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Mia-Wallace · Accepted Answer

No idea about public schools.

I'll home school my kid with a bunch of other kids.

I'm more concerened about teaching my kid *not* to see the naked human body and physical affection in just sexual or romantic terms. I'm more concerned to desexualize the human body for him and opening his mind to the world beyond what Hollywood or this or that collective with a flag are offering us.

LGBTQ is about

1. Romance
2. Sex
3. Identity as far as it's concerned with romance and sex (there are far more complex aspects to our psychology and identity and it makes no difference at all if we're a man or woman or who we fuck when we're thinking about them (morality, existence, purpose, etc.). Trans identity is really just about who to romance and who to have sex with and how you see yourself in those specific situations. (There's no reason for me to become a man if I want to debate the simulation hypothesis or human existence - the only area/situation where that's relevant is sex and romance)

I don't think my child needs to narrow his view of life and his body down to labels that are about romance and sex so early in his life.

Instead, I like him to stay out of those boxes (and thinking in those boxes) and learn to swim and play naked/half naked with other kids, see naked bodies, and become less sensitive and more comfortable in his own skin. I want him to be able to socialize and express himself clearly. To touch other people, the opposite and the same sex, without thinking "ohh yeah hot" or "I'm in love", or don't if there are boundaries. I want him to be anything but shy about expressing his need for physical affection without mixing it with erotic stuff or romance.

Not all physical affection is romantic or erotic, and kids should learn to be physical when they must. They should be able to touch each other without being scared of other people thinking they have either erotic or romantic intentions or both. Physical affection is far beyond those two intentions.

And I don't want him to avoid acting this or that way just to fit in the current socially acceptable "straight" behaviour or "gay" behaviour (including their fashion/art and all the crap they sell promoted by LGBTQ).

I want him to be independent. I want him to be his own person.

In time, he'll feel horny and fall in love without me even knowing. And when that time comes, with his independence, confidence, and how normal human physical/emotional interaction is for him, he will be far less likely to fall for infatuations or beg for sex and more likely to find an authentic relationship, a deep emotional connection, with the same or the opposite sex or both. There won't be a problem with either and I'm going to make him sure of that.

A kid knowing all +100 genders written in some colorful book won't be any less awkward in love or crap in his/her choices if he grows up in an overy sexualized and abusive environment without proper role models, socializing, and play time (there are exceptions, but not all kids are that strong).

Do I want my boy to just feel good about fucking other boys, or do I want him to be able to form a *good* relationship, regardless of his lover's gender? Yeah, the latter.

Joining/supporting LGBTQ? That'll be his decision.

Minxxie · Accepted Answer

It can always be done in an age-appropriate way and i think people freak out about "the gay agenda" being pushed onto innocent kids while heterosexuality is being pushed onto toddlers and babies right in front of their eyes. I think it's all wrong.

There are baby clothes that say stuff like "I love boobies!" and "no boys allowed until daddy says so!" yet nobody bats an eye! If lesbians were putting "I love boobies!" onesies on little girls people would RIOT. I don't think it's okay when anyone does it! We don't need to ever sexualize children.

I'm Canadian but I had this type of education growing up and I appreciate it! It helped me remain empathetic and kind because I knew what being transgender meant when someone came out to me in high school. My friends didn't freak out when my lesbian aunties came to pick me up from school, they knew that adults can fall in love with adults of the same gender or a different gender. Kids are a lot more intelligent than most people give them credit for, they can conceptualize the meaning of love without ever having to learn about any form of sex.

So for toddlers, all they had to say was "Some people have a mommy and a daddy, and some people have two mommies or two daddies. All that matters is that a family loves each other." kids aren't TrAuMATiZED by learning about different kinds of families, they taught us about step-parents and adoption and blended families as well and we were just like "SWEET! So that's why Summer has two daddies? And Anthony has step-parents who pick him up from school sometimes? nice, pass the legos please!"

Then in high school kids can learn more technical stuff so that EVERY teen knows how to have safe sex even if it isn't strictly hetero penetrative sex. It's information everyone needs to know especially with porn normalizing things like anal which some young straight couples might want to try and not know how to do it safely and without pain. Abstinence-only "education" doesn't work which is why out of all the high schools in my big city my school had the lowest rates of teen pregnancy and STDS. Our school had someone from the city's sexual health center who was QUALIFIED come and teach about all forms of sex and about consent.

With the internet kids will find out everything anyway, we may as well teach them properly and gradually based on what is appropriate for their age.

N192K001 · Accepted Answer

NO , such a waste of the parents' money, as well as the student's time & effort! Financial-management  (inc. tax-filing!) , emergency-response, basic survival-skills  (incl. self-defense, cookery, swimming, etc.) , flat-tire replacement  (if in car-culture jurisdiction) , foreign-language literacy  (even fluency) , and other would be far more useful. Must we be reminded of the U. S.'s ridiculously-low rankings in world academic-achievement? In the ranking of the world's most educated jurisdictions, the U. S. is nowhere in the top 10. If Americans don't want to be left behind in R&D & the resulting economic-innovations and/or be utterly dependent on us foreign-imports to keep the U. S. economy afloat, U. S. academics will have to focus on what actually matters.  What good will it be for American students being stuck memorizing 100+ "genders" while their competitors abroad are memorizing complex equations, studying Calculus for fun (Yes, an Asian preteen friend of mine doing that.), and tinkering with robotics-sets during electives?

Chazmatazz269 · Accepted Answer

I suppose so. Maybe public education has changed a great deal over the past three decades, but when i was in skool we had “social studies” which was a kind of historical view of social and societal issues. To whatever extent we were free to compare and contrast our history with contemporary issues, we learned how conditions changed and why. Later, there was another class called “social issues”, a deliberately more contemporary look at social and societal issues. Literally looking at headlines and talking about where we are as a society and how we move forward equitably despite the issues we have. These are two classes in which discussions about emerging identities and ideologies can and should be had. Considering the rapid decay of public education in the US, maybe those classes aren’t as prominent, or maybe not available at all. The key though is DISCUSSION. It’s not a lecture to be administered. There MUST be freedom to engage in open and honest discussion before people will feel comfortable with the result. If any group or groups feel marginalized by censorship, there will always be conflict. Conflict is best resolved mutually.

OlderAndWiser · Answer

I think it should be forbidden. Schools are intended to teach us about academic matters, not replace parents for teaching values to our children. And I DO NOT trust public schools to handle any of this in a fair and unbiased manner.

Smoke-n-Growls · Answer

It should be mandatory.

If I had gotten education on LGBTQ subjects when I was in elementary and junior high, I would have had a chance to grow up bisexual and non-binary. I would have known how to describe how I felt, made friends who understood me for me, and been much more at ease in my adult life.

Because I did not have this kind of education, and I was instead subjected to heteronormative society, I didn't realize I was bisexual until I was 27. Gender questioning started at 31.

By allowing children to learn about LGBTQ - just giving them the language and the concepts, doesn't have to be detailed unless the kid asks for more details - it will help them learn about themselves.

This is a world where political strife, war, climate change, food shortage, and economic collapse are guarantees.

If we can save some kids the pain of living in the closet through all that, guaranteed, we'll save a few lives.

Let kids be kids - that means letting some of them be gay. Because that's just how humans are. There is a larger % of the population who is intersex (1.7%) than there are natural red heads (1.3%). Humans are far from the only mammals with homosexuality and gender non-conforming behaviours. Over 5,000 species have been observed with those behaviours.

It's literally science.

Teach children the truth. Let them choose for themselves. We're killing their planet, we owe them this much.

Datboi65 · Answer

Hell to the no no NO. I'm not gonna go through life, find a significant other, settle down and have kids just so they are corrupted by the educational system to accept something I think is absolutely immoral. Listen, you can be pro-lgbt all you want, but if your lifestyle doesn't allow for you to make children, then DO NOT push you worldview unto children that are the byproduct of heterosexual mating. You made that choice, so I'm good with your lifestyle long as it doesn't affect me. The minute it does, we're gonna have problems.

Hrumf · Answer

I don’t think it should be. Americans don’t teach heterosexual education to children in schools, so why should LGBTQ education be mandatory?

If a child wants to take a course on this, let there be electives available for children and let them choose to take this class. Or an LGBTQ club where they educate about LGBTQ history.

I would rather sex ed be mandatory once kids reach a certain age. Safe sex knowledge is a huge issue in America. That will at least apply and be helpful for everyone!

BCA6010 · Answer

There is no reason whatsoever why sexuality of any kind should be taught in schools, especially on a mandatory basis. That has nothing to do with preparing kids to become functioning, productive adults in society. In fact, teachers and staff who promote the subject should be treated as pedophile groomers, and sex as a whole should only be discussed within the relevant subject of biology, which is typically not taught at a considerable of detail until about 9th grade (genetics usually comes before that).

EarthRealm · Answer

LGBTQ education can be Learned at home and in Books 📚 that are Bought online or in Libraries or a simple Internet search.
So no I don’t Think straight men should be forced to listen to LGBTQ it would Increase Hatred that a lot of dudes have for LGBTQ and it would open up more dudes to hating gays and the entire LGBTQ
MORE fights schools shootings would happen because gay men can fly
Which if you know who said that it was said by a ISIS man that hated gays and he Would throw gays off roof tops and say they can fly
So If you want More people to die then yeah maybe you’ll get your wish.

TenderFantasy · Answer

No it shouldn't be mandatory. What has the world come to? Lol. People never fail to want attention! Not to mention special teatment!

Children don't even know how to wipe their own butts (they are still learning about life in general and how to survive and thrive in it). We don't NEED to shove this weird (ABNORMAL) crap down their already overwhelmed throats/brains!

TheBigGuy9 · Answer

We were told all they wanted was to get married? Despite what we may be told, the lgtbq community is very small. I wonder what the percentage is of people who truly love another vs others where this is their fantasy? Democrat, Andrew Gillum. He’s back in the news now because of wire fraud?

I’ve noticed throughout life that about every time a gay man hit on me, they steered the conversation immediately into something sexual.

This should scare the lgtbq community because of the kid’s ages they want to teach this too. They want to teach them this before they reach puberty. Then when they do go through puberty, they will think this means that because that’s what I was told all day & every day.

Number 6 in the Saul Alinsky playbook.

Apulu_Imback · Answer

Wth I would leave my school if they taught this! School is to teach us basics of education. Not such weird things. We don't even know about life. It's already really confusing for us teenagers. This thing would make it worse. Let them know about this thing from internet only. Learning from school will make them confused about themselves as they will take it as something serious.

Bratsondanielle · Answer

It should be illegal and anyone who pushes sexual stuff on children should be either jailed for life or simply put down (death sentence). ... and by the way why do they use death sentence so little? It's a lot cheaper than feeding them 40 years

jshm2 · Answer

Don't be daft.

We don't teach "straight education" or "Black education" or "female education" in schools do we?

What people really want is "better education" and these current education models aren't it.

jjj101010 · Answer

Should it be mentioned? Yes
should it be a whole subject? No, there are more important things to teach like financial management so kids learn about debt, credit cards and banking and sensible things they will actually need. Why are kids not taught how to review their energy suppliers and the pros and cons of buying a car in finance vs cash? All more useful, for most of the population, 1 in 10 are gay, however the number that are in debt are far higher. Teach what needs to be taught in a pro rata basis of how much it will be needed

Lionman95 · Answer

I don't think it's a good idea to make it mandatory because kids simply don't have the brain capacity fully developed to comprehend the consequences of that decision.
Like most kids are easily manipulated and do things because it follows a trend and allows them to be seen not because they want it.

Adam1978 · Answer

Since they can't even define themselves how do you expect their to be any subject on the matter. I personally think it's a waste of time and effort. There is no need for special treatment of these people. If you just treat everyone the same. It's fair and easy.

Smashingdoozy · Answer

Kids learn about families in schools. LGBT families exist, so it's only fair to represent them and not just ignore them when talking about family dynamics. Kids understand a lot more than you think they do.

Like what on earth do you think they're wanting to teach?

RavVid · Answer

It is a great idea to make little kiddies insecure in their gender isn't?

Lets also not forget that children are often not very nice which is why we have to socialize them and bullying is quite common. LGBTQ education is going to teach more terms that some kids can be bullied with.

Anonymous · Answer

Given the collapse of families and sub-replacement level birth rates in every industrialized country on Earth.

You would think a country interested in its own self-preservation would strongly discourage such anti-reproductive life styles.

Either we do it, or the smarter civilization that takes over our land when we are too week and few in number to defend it will to it. Either way it will be done.

erandal · Answer

As a footnote to basic sexual education it should be covered but I would be worried that they would promote it above other significantly more important subjects. Education in schools is messed up the world over with many basic life skills being missed out completely.

ShaTTeredMasterpeace · Answer

Of all the important shit that is NOT taught in schools, this isn't one that tops my list. I wish I had learned about finances and taxes and shit that would've helped me in life.

andreasderjuengere · Answer

I think, it's also acceptable in other country's schools.
As part of 'social science' this topic can be addressed safely. Early middle school looks like a convenient timing to me.
If some parents are being paranoid about manipulation - why not have TWO teachers with opposing views handle the lessons.
Only teaching what ''we'' want to hear - that works in Afghanistan.

slatyb · Answer

Like what, and at what grade level? It’s silly to pretend there are no gay people. A teacher with a same sex partner should be free to have a picture of their partner on their desk if that’s generally permitted. They should be free to answer questions about their life if a student asks.

ChrisMaster69 · Answer

Well let’s face it you teach kids When they first join school, how to react to an active shooter on school premises…

Exactly what can be more traumatic for a young child after that.

we will not tell you about in society, we have more than straight people, oh but we will tell you how to avoid being shot and murdered while at school.

no fucking problem there is there…

IceCreamSandwich · Answer

Yes, just like sex-ed should be mandatory. We should be able to trust parents with that but they've proved over and over again that we can't. In fact we can't trust schools either, but at least schools can be mandated to try. It would only take a handful of lessons honestly it shouldn't be so hard.

Avicenna · Answer

There are some things schools absolutely should not be “teaching”, and whatever the OP means by that “education” is one of them (religion is another). It’s not as if most schools are getting good enough results on what they’re supposed to be teaching in the first place.

Reaper1985 · Answer

mandatory class no. elective class no. after school program for teenage maybe. but it should require the parents or legal guardians permission for the child to attend it.

midnightmoon05 · Answer

I would not teach it. And did not teach it. It’s not my job.
my daughter was somewhat co fixed by it last year at 14… we spend time sharing with her about who she is and not let media brain wash her. She is good now.

Zeus_66 · Answer

Private institutions can do whatever they choose, and parents can choose to send their children to said institutions if they want their child to have LGBTQ education. The taxpayer however, should not be footing the bill for it. Same goes for "straight" education. Kids are in school, especially at the elementary and primary levels to learn the basics, get exposed to advancing math, sciences, language/reading.

AviatorTom · Answer

Definitely not. We have enough problems teaching our kids basic skills, let's not confuse them even more by having to understand complicated social situations.

Sour-rose · Answer

I made a whole mytake on this. So in a word, no. Don't make it mandatory. It cannot go well at all. Buuut if it was like an elective as in an option for more credits... i could find the purpose in that

JessicaEarl · Answer

People need to understand, the more power the law gives government employees, the more danger we are in. The second a person you disagree with gets that job, you can do nothing to withstand it

SecretsofKB · Answer

LGBTQ+ member here. I don't think it should be a mandatory subject, but I'm not opposed to an optional class kids can take to learn more.

BCRanger10 · Answer

Absolutely not. In fact, it shouldn't even be I public schools at all.

SaoirseS · Answer

No, I don't. Public schools need to focus on core subjects, especially during early school years. I feel the same about religion - it has no place in public schools.

BungusHighFivePizza · Answer

should be banned in public schools
private schools ok
private schools can teach that dinosaurs lived with man or watever
or that a boy is a girl

private schools ok
but keep religion out of public schools

hahahmm · Answer

It should be illegal to push gender politics or sexuality on kids. Teachers who try it should be arrested and treated like pedos.

MCheetah · Answer

Absolutely not. Sexuality shouldn't be taught in schools at all, other than the biology and basics of how (hetero) sex works and even that should require parental permission to be allowed.

annabananna · Answer

I think that their are more important subjects to focus on. Maybe going over it a bit in a sex Ed class when they are older but I don’t see a point in a whole class just on that one topic.

Miristheiss · Answer

Of course not.  I'm the parent. This is stuff for me and mom to deal with. Not the school. You take care of mathematics and language, science, biology, civics, literature... etc.

Uptowngirl88 · Answer

No, they need to be focused on financial literacy. Lgbtq education does nothing for a child's education

Pete671 · Answer

C - UK guy here, we all different in our own way but I'm really sick of promotion of LBGTQ/whatever stuff being promoted,,,

dolemite89 · Answer

why does it need to be in school at all? it’s all over the media anyways. 7 years olds should be out being kids not listening to purple haired transsexual communist witches indoctrinate them like we’re in Canada.

joeldalton · Answer

I’m not a sexual predator trying to groom children, so no.

humanearth · Answer

The only thing that should be taught in schools is  Reading Writing Arithmetic No political, no gender theory, and no LGTQ bullshit Just the basics

aliiiek · Answer

I can't blieve you even discussing that , this is curroption , seriously i doubt even if one percent of the population even is into that shit

peedy · Answer

Hell children should not be taught anything about sex they are to young and it should be the parents job when they are old enough

Lliam · Answer

It should be banned and only offered as an elective to high school students.

cth96190 · Answer

It is Communist indoctrination and paedophile grooming. Everyone who advocates it should be disappeared, in a Pinochet type of way.

crmoore · Answer

Like just as mandatory as science and math? Did you have a class on LGBTQ? Are you and your classmates struggling in the work force, or life, due to this lack of LGBTQ education?

FunkyMonkee · Answer

ABSOLUTELY NOT!! Sex ed in high school is one thing. Fag ed doesn't NEED to be taught!!

Quigly · Answer

They should be taught the truth.  That it's a mental illness.

Lycanthropic · Answer

Maybe as an elective, but what is the value? Gender Studies degrees are worthless.

Luopio27 · Answer

Let kids be kids.  There should be classes for high schoolers for raising a child.

ODC2112 · Answer

The usual sectarian rubbish, like creationism even homosexualism should be as far away from education as possible.

WhiteBoyChill · Answer

It should be banned. We need not teach cultural degeneracy

This_Is_My_Opinion8 · Answer

What would be taught on that subject? No really I need to know to answer this.  Is it just "LGBT people exist"? If so you don't need an entire subject to it.

Dinosaursandanime65 · Answer

NOOOOO, exterminate, abolish, incinerate, obliterate, purge into oblivion. The only there is to learn about it is it exceeds degeneracy and is beyond disgusting

LimitedBenefits101 · Answer

It shouldn't be mandatory leave that disgusting community out of school

DARKCLOUD1945X · Answer

If you want it taught to your child fine start teaching them after they stop beleiving in Santa and the Easter bunny not before

MountAverage · Answer

Depends on what that means exactly. But generally speaking certain LGBTQ things should be explained in school, not doing so is grossly negligent.

CasaNorba · Answer

I chose C but my real answer is it shouldn't be thought to children AT ALL

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