It's less about what he has to do for me to stop supporting him and more about what other politicians need to change about themselves for me to stop supporting him.
I just feel like at least with Trump we don't have to live in poverty while the country has all these social dilemmas.
I get that abortions, and trans rights and emissions are really important to some people, but I'd rather talk about that stuff after we've explored where our tax money is going and maybe imprisoned politicians who have been doing things that are straight up evil.
I get that Trump has said and done things that... I dunno, would make for an awkward energy in some people's dinner tables but there are people who are running against him that are very personally and intentionally the perpetrators of child abuse, human trafficking, extortion, racketeering, treason, corperate espionage, war crimes (the kind that the laws were written for, not strange technicalities), defrauding the government and its people, murder, rape, degrading the human value of minorities down to sacrificial pawns.
Trumps alleged crimes for the most part chalk up to a difference in opinion. Oh and talking like he's 70 I guess.
Not doing all of the horrible things the left accuses him of would be a deal breaker. Its actually tragic how misinformed the average person is when it comes to modern politics. And I think they like it that way! Reading some of these posts "he touched my hand, does that mean he's a rapist?" (Like WTF is wrong with you kids?) I think the truth would drive many young people to dive off of a roof, so as to not have to experience the slight discomfort that comes from being wrong or being duped.
Hunter Avallone on Timcast is probably the best example. Or any of the numerous walk-away people (Brandon Straka, Arielle Scarcella etc) who had SOME semblance of intellectual honesty to look this sht up. Just be forewarned... there's no coming back. You WILL be smeared by the media, abandoned by your "friends," and disinvited from family gatherings.
I will be supporting him over the Democratic Party's alternative in 2024, though I would not consider myself a Trump supporter.
What would he have to do to change this level of support? He would need to become a worse option than the alternatives. How would he accomplish that? It would be very difficult given the Democratic party's insane stance on abortion. Abortion up until birth is a completely untenable policy position. Only brainwashed zombies incapable of independent thinking could throw their support behind such a thing. If Donald Trump began to espouse abortion until birth, I would almost certainly vote for a minor party option.
I support him as he did a great job. That being said, I would stop supporting him if:
1. Gas went to $5.00/gallon
2. Inflation went over 9%
3. Parents could not get baby formula
4. He pulled out of a country and left over $80 million in equipment and caused numerous deaths of Americans
5. He couldn't answer questions coherently
6. He fell numerous times going up the stairs on Air Force 1
7. He had a history of plagiarism
8. He had an even weaker Vice President
9. The southern border was totally open
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It's hilarious that the Democratic party can still manage to keep its loyal supporters talking about Trump after all this time.
They can't talk about policies so they attach his character and invent one unsubstantiated scandal after another. At the same time, they can't find any fault with O'Bomber the slick con man, Hillary the megalomaniacal, mass murdering psychopath mob boss, or blithering Pedo Joe.
Because the Democratic party has become so corrupt and dishonest, so detrimental, so despicable, it has to rely on these tactics to gain any support at all.
I was never a Trump fan. I didn't vote for him in 2016 but I was relieved when Killary lost. And after four years of Trump, I didn't find him to be anywhere near the worst president we have ever had. I voted Republican for the first time in my life in order to keep Biden out. Unfortunately, my vote was in vain.
Over the past four years, I have been both amused and disgusted by the lunkheads who contracted TDS from the Democratic propaganda machine. They have actually caused more harm than benefit to the party they support.
I am no Republican or conservative, but I doubt if I will ever support the Democratic party again.
Why are people still so focused on Trump when Biden is literally driving our country into the ground? I assume you are on the left, but what would it take for you to denounce the craze that is going on with that? More pedophiles getting exposed, more crazy people attacking other people, places and things and practically getting away with it? People still think Trump is the worst thing to happen since Hitler.. SMH.. I'm a right leaning Libertarian so, I won't really support any politician anymore, but I would definitely vote for Trump or Disantas over any of the other fools out there..
"Not really but I don’t think he’s responsible for nearly everything people are thinking he is. We didn’t vote for Biden. We voted against Trump."
Personally i just hate Biden and Clinton.
It's not about gas prices or being a creepy old man that goes around sniffing girls either. Aside from the stimulus checks I don't remember him doing anything Good but I do remember him pulling our forces out before fully evacuating the US civilians. That was a stab in the back if I ever saw one. But hey who cares?
I'll admit though the wall across our border does sound nice. Not because of terrorists but because human trafficking and drug trafficking. Maybe a wall and some AA guns could prevent issues.
I would dump Trump if he did any one of the following:
1. Left Americans behind enemy lines.
2. Gifted 85 billion dollars worth of high-tech weapons to terrace.
3. Left the border wide open.
4. Sold 5 million barrels of oil from our strategic oil reserve to china, India and Europe.
5. At the end of a press conference he said "sorry folks but they said I'm not allowed to answer questions."
He would show support for Biden's plan to destroy America.
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So, as someone who won’t support the current elites and also cannot see any competent opposition figure, I see it this way: Trump, Biden, the Clintons, etc. can do practically anything and retain their support. It was said of Hillary that she could drown puppies on live TV and the journalists would praise her for given them a bath. The relationship between Trump and his supporters is similar. Why? Because both sides (the globalists and the populists) view the other as an existential threat to their culture, values, and way of life and in a system that has, through time, increasingly centralized power in the national government. The centralization of power leaves nowhere to hide or escape the consequences of losing power, so neither side will hold their leaders accountable for scandalous behavior if it means losing power.
Badass picture, beyond that nothing,
now that being said if it was a choice between him and Ron DeSantis I would vote for Ron DeSantis (governor of Florida) on an ideal logical standpoint he is pretty much the same as Trump except innocence more willing to go after the big corporations like Disney. He’s also innocence alas polarizing figure because he doesn’t tweet out stupid shit all the time. So in a primary run I would be voting for Ron DeSantis if it came to the general like Donald Trump versus any Democrat Donald Trump all the way but my first choice is Ron DeSantis my second choice is Trump. I encourage trump to keep doing his rallies because I find them hilarious.
The real question is how can you support a president that can't even process a simple sentence? A president that just turns and walks away from a speech when he hears the sound of an ice cream truck. How can you support a president that hands out presidential pardons to his pedophile friends? Trump donated the paychecks he received as president to tons of federal systems rather than pocket it like any other president. He increased available jobs in the US. Yeah he says some dumb things but at least they are complete and coherent sentences. He would have to be as handsy with children as Joe Schmoe is for me to dislike him.
1. Start supporting angry, miserable people like you.
2. Have bad policies and actions that hurt America, unlike 2017-2020.
3. Be exactly like Joe Biden and the people who control him.
I'm confident that he could be caught on live TV fucking a child after shooting a bunch of people in the face, and he won't lose maybe 2/3 of his followers.
As a complete outsider, in my opinion the whole situation in the Trumpian GOP has escalated to a cult-like scenario, with the cult leadership in its last throes. Similar to the FEDs besieging Waco. Considering the potential damage of all current lawsuits this will rather end with a bang than with a whimper. What becomes of the GOP after that is at anybody's guess?
The same question could be said for Biden or Obama supporters. When it comes to certain things he's said and done. You could take ANY pollatition and cherry pick certain comments and behaviours. EVERY president has done/said something shitty at some point in time, but seen like at the moment people are just cherry picking at ONE person rather than looking at the whole picture from both sides
People have been asking that for six years. There just isn't anything, though. Trumpers have nothing else going on in their life besides the feeling of validation that trumpism gives them. To ask them to give up trump would to ask them to become entirely meaningless. Maybe if we figured out some other meanings to provide them with. Unfortunately that's supposed to be the one and only job of the "job creators," but they're too busy hoarding our cash..
You liberals are more obsessed with Trump than conservatives.
He hasn’t been president for a year and a half and still you keep taking about him. You guys need therapy. It’s an unhealthy obsession.
If he went commie I’d cancel him.
What reasons do I have to vote for Trump?
I love buying 6 dollar diesel! Empty store selfs, grocery prices through the roof. Restaurants not able to open fully because of staffing shortages. My retirement savings going into the tank. 8% plus inflation!
Just can’t imagine someone voting for a better life?
Outlaw sandwiches.
This would be a declaration of civil war in my book.
1. An admission that reverse racism/sexism is a real and serious problem that needs to be addressed, and actions taken to that effect
2. Prison for all black lives matter rioters and leaders.
3. A Nationwide ban on abortion.
4. A Pardon for Jan. 6th people.
5. Right of all non-natives accused of crimes on Native reservations to be tried in State or Federal courts.
Do these things and I will condemn Trump.
Break from any major conservative position:
gun-rights, right to life, free speech, limited government, women’s sports, slavery is wrong,
yeah that’s right democrats we all know your history.
> What would he have to do for you to pull your support from him?
Basically shit democrats do:
- Introducing a diversity quota or something else like that.
- Trying to ban weapons.
- Being a feminist.
- Supporting BLM.
- Defunding the Police.
- Removing due Process.
and so on. Honestly I would vote for a baked potato because it has a better ratio of good policies vs. bad than any democrat.
Biden would not have gotten the votes that he did if it wasn't for the media covering up the Hunter Biden Laptop story.
They now have proof Joe Biden knew about his sons Business deals with China and Joe lied. I don't think there is anything that can save Joe in the coming elections.
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