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The problem seems to be easy access, inexpensive, and illegally sold guns. So objectively, we should make guns as expensive as possible. Then only the best and most dedicated will own them. Not street thugs.
We’ve had military grade weapons in the hands of civilians in this country since it’s foundation.
Since WW 2 we’ve have military surplus rifles in the hands of civilians. Some of them being magazine fed.
To add to all those, since the 60’s we’ve had the SKS, Mini 14, AK-47, and AR-15 in most states.
1940 - 2000 there were barely and mass shooting. The only one that sands out was Charles Whitman in Texas
Over the last 22 years they increase in frequency. These days we have one a week.
It has really been the last 20 years and increasing frequency that this occurred.
It is noted there if a direct link between decreasing values and morals and the increase in mass murder. There is a direct link between woke and liberal ideology and mass shootings.
Just reverse this “post Christian” society as a license to in doctrinaire and foment hated.
Why do you wavy everyone to guns. Do you feel unsafe. You can get a gun of Your own.
That's a very bad idea to make guns as expensive as possible. That would only make the weapon industry more dominating, because only rich and powerful people would be able to buy guns, and this would not prevent illegally sold guns. A good question would be: in who's pockets would end the difference in price? The State? Politicians? Corruption? The industry and intermediaries? Retailers?
The higher the prices, the more interests there will be for all involved people, and still no security will result. I think that if guns can legally be sold, the prices should just be correct: not cheaper, not higher. On the other hand something could be improved in the field of licences and controls.
Let's nevertheless face the fact that criminals don't feel the need to heed laws, and that higher prices would only make illegal business more interesting. Not an easy subject, and no miraculous solution.
I dont think making them exspinsive will help that much, its just money
I think a better one is fource who ever owns a gun to be held to limits and reqrirment on it
such as, wepon e must be kept in a safe, they pass some mental check to see there of a sound mind, and pass talks with fire arms accidents and victems that lost there loved once as of someone mishandleing
Run a refresher of the last every year or two
Run an invetory check fine, as in any stolen or lost wepon e must be reported in X amount of time failing to do so shuld result is a seruise punisment as its life in danger on that
If you make guns pricey your just open a black market to be more applieing and grow there bussniess, as well as not stop the main problems around it
I would say no, as criminals would steal them or get them from non legal sources anyway. I did think about this a couple of years ago and from every viewpoint I could see benefits and drawbacks but not a single viable solution.
The only solution would be to implement similar restrictions to that which we have in Europe (basically banned except for those which have gone through an extensive vetting process) but I can't really see 99.9% of all the firearms in the US being handed in for destruction.
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They’re already trying that. That’s where the whole 80% unfinished phenomenon came from, the extremely high cost of ownership which racially segregates Firearms from the people who need them the most. If according to the left raising the price of some thing is racist and according to that same left most shootings occur in the inner cities, wouldn’t it then make more sense not to be so racist against their base? Great choice in gun for yourself by the way, a 1911 in.45 Auto. Two world wars!!!😆
Criminals get guns in 2 ways, for at least a vast majority of the time:
1) stealing lawfully owned guns
2) what's called a straw purchase.
Straw purchases are essentially buying a gun for someone else who can't legally own a gun. There is little chance you're gonna stop someone capable of completing straw purchases for others, but you'll have a very high chance of preventing Tiffany, single mom of 2, who wants a gun for protection, from buying one. Criminals legitimately do not care about the letter of the law, and will continue breaking them, but Tiffany wouldn't have access to guns for her personal self defense or the defense of her kids.
It would lead to the (almost certain) death of Tiffany, and possibly her children, but the criminal would still have the gun.
Yeah but street thugs get them for like $100 a piece already even though the average gun is $600 for the law-abiding citizens. I know... I'm a street thug and I've also bought legally.
More rules and blockades only affect people that obey the laws. Your average street thug gets them easier than you can get you driver's license.
So your idea is cute, sounds a bit naive, and I think your heart is in the right place, but that kind of thinking doesn't stop criminals at all. It just stops the law-abiding citizen that could've stopped a mass shooting.
Bad guys will always find a way to kill somebody with a gun. They're in Indianapolis a crazy went wild and started shooting in a mall. I used to live near by that mall many years ago. It is a blessing that one man took his gun to the mall to shop with his family. This man was educated and how to use a gun and save many lives. I was taught how to use a weapon. You never point a weapon at anybody. In my youth before I could get me a license I had to go through a gun safety course that was offered by NRA. Maybe that's what we need to do before you can purchase a weapon you need to go through a massive training course. Why is it the people hurt people. We need to learn to treat people with respect. You can't make things expensive you can't put rules and and try to fix a problem. Education is the best way to fix some of the problems weapons. There are a lot of mental health issues.
It's an interesting idea although I don't know how many inexpensive or cheap guns still being sold every time I own gun shop I feel like I've been well you get the idea and if you make them so expensive that the average I can't afford one how do you think the criminals are going to get them yep deal so they'll have a better class of weapon anyway I still think the best idea I've ever gun control would be everybody has to carry one and everybody has to be trained how to use I'm not serious about that either I don't know what the gun control answer is is never going to be on the gets everybody happy if they just enforce the laws they already have probably wouldn't be as big a deal as it is anyway good idea let me know
It would go a long way but in reality the best way would to make ownership without valid clause illegal combined with a mass consification. Harsh penalties for anyone not complying and treat all gun carrying criminals as if they were going equipt to murder
Criminals don't use their own guns in their crimes.
That would get them caught so making guns more expensive would be pointless.
Making them more expensive would only be possible to the cost of people making their own guns. Given the age and relativist simplicity of making firearms that's not very expensive.
That is of course assuming you can somehow repeal the 2nd amendment to allow you to use the tax code like that in the first place.
Sometimes Leftists like @OddBeMe just unmask themselves:
https://reason.com/2022/01/16/gun-control-is-just-as-racist-as-drug-control/
So you want to relegate the ability to buy a gun to the rich? Isn't it the rich who would keep you under their thumb? And you want to give them the means of carrying their agenda out without having the means to defend yourself from their oppression?
Completely naive. There would be an even more thriving trade in illegal firearms because it would have its own pricing structure and could easily undercut legall-available firearms.
All of your schemes to disarm law-abiding people are a bad idea.
Don't be daft.
Any idiot can make a gun. You can even 3D print them. But a gun without ammo is just a cudgel.
The real control is to make ammo expensive and to have a "spent shells, for new ammo" policy. This would not only invalidate illegal firearms as most would have no ammo, or poor quality ammo, and enforce a better rule of law.
The problems are lousy enforcement of existing gun laws, and absolutely deplorable recognition and treatment of mental illness in the US.
That said, you’ve touched on a joke Chris Rock once made.
He’s brilliant! Watch to the end. You’re welcome!
Sounds like a great way to make it so poor people can't exercise a right.
I could go for this though if the government provided a gun to anyone who wanted to exercise a right... just like voting, it is a right.
I'm with Chris Rock on this one when he says a bullet should cost 5000 dollars!
Sadly where there is a will there is a way.
More people will simply steal them to either use or sell.
There are simple home made ones that are getting better.
It may help, but it wouldn't end the problem.
Kind of like car thefts.
People used to hot wire them, break the locks and use a screw driver.
Now with all of the anti theft devices on cars today, now they car jack them.
So what used to be simple theft, it now has become a violent crime.
The best gun control is to take all weapons away from ALL governments.
They're the terrorists of this planet. We focus on the Lone-wolf shooter of a handful of people, while we ignore the government bombing the fuck outta MILLIONS of innocent people overseas. Folk need to get their head outta their azz and stop being HYPOCRITICAL CHUMPS
You dont need gun controls, you need to take control of your nation back from the criminals who are running it.
They are trying to take your guns from you and the way they are going about that is to murder a bunch of people each week on your televisions.
Seems to be working rather well as you muppets keep talking about disarming yourselves.
No because you would just force people to get there guns illegally then you don’t know who has guns and illegal firearms dealers aren’t doing an FBI background check like they do when you go to purchase a fire arm
The problem is most guns are obtained illegally. It's like drugs, you can make them illegal, you can make them expensive, but people will always find a way to get them or make them. What needs to happen is the cops having better training and allowing the public to have better access to protection
Huh? Criminals are criminals. Doesn't stop them from. Get illegal guns. This would not change anything. But murica gun laws are very broken. Anyone can buy one no matter how unstable they are mentally.. Yes make it harder to get, safety course, background checks, lock guns up, lock the triggers. Tales months before you can ever get one in Canada.
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