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I hear women talking about "reproductive rights." What "rights" are you talking about and what makes it a "right?"
Are you talking about your desire to have abortions available on demand as an alternative to responsible birth control?
So when I think about "reproductive rights" I think of many different things. Okay, I believe abortion should be safe and legal, I don't think banning it prevents it from happening, it just causes women with means to travel to have it done and poor women to do something unsafe to end the pregnancy sometimes even lethal to themselves. I realized some people don't have sympathy for this, but to me that's two lives lost instead of one (I know that sounds harsh) and the woman may be leaving several others behind who will be negatively affected. I see it as the lesser of two evils if that makes sense. I also, however, think there should be resonable restrictions such as elective abortions in the firt trimester and 2nd trimester abortions reserved for fetal or maternal medical reasons.
However, I think contraception should be accessible. I don't mean free but there are areas in our country where prescription contraception is difficult to obtain, they are described as contracptive deserts. So I am in favor of things like over-the-counter birth control pills (the 28 days prescription pack, not plan B). I also think the government needs to stay out of decisions on whether men or women should be able to use contraception. It may only be a supreme court precedent making it legal right now, but I agree that the right to contraception should be codified into law. The same with vasectomies and tubal ligations. It used to be very diffcult for men or women to get permanent sterilization without already having children, being a certain age, getting permission from their spouse etc. That process should be easier. I also don't think anyone should be forced to be sterlized.
Lastly for those who do want to have safe pregnancies and births I think we need to look at how that process can be improved. Just as there are contraceptive deserts there are also healthcare and obstetric deserts. No, I am not talking about government funding exactly but possibly more legislation so that some providers can't deny pregnant women who have medicaid from receiving medical care, which does't happen in some places. Also some insurance companies won't cover home birth midwifery services which would greatly improve access to safer birthing practices, which is another whole debate.
So for me it's whole array of things. Sorry I made it anon and I only made it so that you can reply but I work in the medical field and I got so frustrated for a while having to explain my position over and over again to different people and why, and yet, even though I accepted that they disagreed with me, they still were trying to convince me to take their stance. I know that you are reasonable and interested in respectful debate so I figured I would at least explain my thoughts on this.
The ability to kill the fetus, access to birth control options, accessible and readily available reproductive healthcare, the ability to plan their families, and family planning education.
Well *I* try not to talk about reproductive rights cause I'm so sick of it, but *I* would be referring to who gets to care or watch over the unborn child. Men currently have literally zero reproductive rights whatsoever, so even if a career felon mother got pregnant with a model citizen father, he still has zero say-so over the fate of his child. I don't even think men should have 50-50 say so, but at least 30-70 is better than literally nothing.
And then SOME people wonder why so many so-called "deadbeat fathers" exist (my own "dad" being one of them). Give the father 0% ownership or care of his child, but then expect him to pay 60-95% of the financial burden on the child he had no control over. Yeah, f*ck that. I don't even ever want kids, but F*CK. THAT!
As far as abortion goes, I'm sick of this argument and my stance has always been "men should have 30-40% reproductive rights to their unborn child (especially if the mother is unfit or has a record of making life mistakes) or complete control to opt out of all fatherhood and responsibility to that child." Women can still have majority reproductive rights, but men need to have equal say-so over their life's fate, as well. None of this "one woman can f*ck over your entire existence" BS.
As far as abortions or no-abortions, I've always maintained that it isn't a fully developed until the six month mark, because that's what medical science says and that's when it starts to have cognitive brain development and isn't just a vegetable with as much brain function as a fly or insect. I've used analogies like baking a pizza and how flour and pizza sauce doesn't make it "a pizza" or how scrambled eggs aren't the same thing as chicken wings. But the politically right seems super dense and hyper-overemotional on this stupid pro-life abortion issue, so I doubt we're going to make any leeway here.
But yes, I support abortions up until the six month mark because forcing a child into being unloved their entire life and having abusive unfit parents is far more cruel than sparing them such an existence. The human life experience is vastly overrated and most of you all aren't happy anyway.
No one should have any rights to their reproductive organs. The only rights needed are the right for the child to grow up with two parents and being taken care of by both parents who are taken accountable by everyone around them and are told to take care of the child like an adult should.
A government basically throws the natural human behavior out if its path and creates people who will never take accountability for their actions as they will always be bailed out by said government who plays daddy.
The government should not force the father to pay child support or give any government help to the mother. but instead have the father raise the child with the mother and both are watched carefully by the people around them. It takes a village to have a child grow up healthy and for the parents to act right. If one of them misbehaves or abuses their child or spouse they get punished in some way by the others. This stile of parenting used to be done for hundreds of years where the children are living in a village and communicate with everyone around them and the parents are always seen what they do.
Reproductive rights are basically "Oh no I made a mistake and I don't want to have consequences for my actions."
The moment modern medicine disappears is the moment reproductive rights are useless.
Not having reproductive rights doesn't make Rape Ok or legal for anyone who's pathetic enough wanting to throw that poor excuse at me.
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Yes, but it’s also about access to affordable birth control.
u I generally avoid these politically and ethically charged questions like the plague, but I will say my piece here only because it’s you asking it, and not someone who will not respect my opinion or listen to what I have to say.
Reproductive rights to ME means:
- Proper education about the reproductive system, sex, pregnancy, contraceptives, etc in schools, at an age appropriate level.
- Emphasizing that unprotected sex has consequences like STD’s and pregnancy, and educate people on what it takes to actually care for a child physically, emotionally, and financially.
- Better education for adults about contraceptives.
- Better overall access to contraceptives, especially for lower income populations in my community - this is way more to do with access to family physicians or other primary care physicians than anything else. Access to family physicians is a big problem in my province right now, ask me how I know.
Hormonal contraceptives are not just used for preventing pregnancy. They are also used to treat symptoms and side effects of often debilitating diseases like PCOS, endometriosis, fibroids or benign masses inside the uterus, PMDD, dysmenorrhea, and menorrhagia.
- Being able to use fertility drugs like Clomid, or using methods such as IVF and IUI.
- Not having female reproductive health issues ignored or waived off by health practitioners as something else, or saying it’s all in their head.
- Access to tubal ligation and vasectomies - no questions asked. No BS from health practitioners like “You might change your mind”, or “You’re young and you don’t even have kids yet”, etc.
- Access to SAFE abortions when that is sought, again, no questions asked that are not relevant to the procedure.
That’s about all I have to say on the topic. I can’t think of anything else.
Yes, it's the right to abortions, contraception, reproductive health, fertility and so forth.
I don't know enough info regarding the abortion law passing in the USA, but I do know they exclude rape victims. However, don't agree with that law passing - it's not a situation and calls for an ‘all for one blanket solution’.
I’ve seen many comments from men thinking the solution is simply contraception, but contraception has a 2-23% of not working.
According to Statista, there are over 170 million women in America. If we assume all these women are fertile, of age and on contraception, it would mean there would be 34 million unwanted pregnancies from women who are being responsible (my country has a population of 6 million people).
Not to mention the number of times a guy tries to pull off a condom mid-act or the fact that rape victims don't immediately report they’ve been raped becuase it's a traumatic experience, and now their reproductive rights have been taken away besides not having the mental capacity to go through the reporting process they now can't discreetly get an abortion and have to travel to another state (if they have the financial means too)
There are too many complexities/variables to pass laws like this and take away reproductive rights.
Give our vaginas back.
The right to control what happens with your body. When you talk about "abortion on demand" what do you mean? You can support the right to autonomy while also debating the proper means of funding and allocation of services. But if the issue is strictly on the act of ending a pregnancy, then it's just about autonomy.
The stage of the life doesn't matter, and it's a mistake for a political right to abortion to be fixed to abstract notions of personhood. Judith Thompson's argument should be the standard jumping off point in rights-based discussions.
The term is pretty clear. It refers to a woman's ability to choose what happens with her own body.
There are many instances of our government interfering with those private decisions. For example, there are regulations requiring waiting periods -- for what? Providers have unreasonable licensing requirements. Some states have restrictions that require rape victims to travel hundreds of miles, out of state to have the rapist's fetus removed. There are other examples of unviable fetuses having to remain in the woman's body to rot. The government has no business regulating a woman's reproductive rights.
1. Abortion access for non-viable fetuses, rape victims, incest victims, abuse victims, health/life of mother is at risk, fetuses that will have lifelong health problems, fetuses with genetic mutations, & so forth.
2. Affordable birth control options.
3. Access to hysterectomies without a doctor or ANYONE saying "you might change your mind later" or "sorry, not until you have your first kid" & having a man sign off on it, we can adopt of we really want to have a kid later!
4. Affordable treatment for endometriosis & other menstrual/reproductive issues
5. Affordable treatment for STIs
Just to name a few
It is a wide variety of things.
Having the right to choose whether or not you want to have children, if so then how many and when, and with whom (of course, this goes both ways).
Having the right to choose from different birth control options depending on what suits your comfort and lifestyle.
Having access to safe abortions.
Having the right to take fertility treatments and IVF.
Having the right to decide the method of delivering the baby, as long as it's a method safe for the mother and baby it's valid.
Having the right to breastfeed or formula feed. I'm personally a big advocate for breastfeeding but it's not convenient for everyone.
^ all of those things, as long as the mother and baby will be doing fine.
The same reason they started talking mess about gay marriage and birth control after roe v Wade was overturned... deflection 😍
Let's all be vague so we can villianize the evil prolifers, they want to force us to conceive children!!! They don't want us using condoms!! They don't want us having sex they wanna tie up our pumpums like they do in African tribes
in my home, its not something that comes up often, But that's because my wife is a rational thinking person, Not a rabid leftist. We both live in kansas. Both are republican, Both voted trump and both voted to keep the current restrictions in place on abortion. There was a recent bill to outright abolish it, or rather remove the restrictions that would allow for an outright ban.
Both of us are not pro choice, and in a perfect world it would be an incredibly rare thing, but on that same token would rather have it available with restrictions in place rather than see women go to back alley abortionists using coat hangers. I hate both options but given the choice completely outlawing it would be bad.
I know you won't like what i have to say here and i am sorry about that.
The “right to an abortion” was never mentioned in the Constitution. It was never a right. 70,000,000 innocent lives have been needlessly ended due to the reckless, irresponsible behavior of people that are too lazy, and/or don’t want the responsibility of raising a life that they created, so they just kill it. It’s a shame it took over 50 years to end Roe v Wade when it had no legal grounds to begin with.
I would love to see things like morning after pill be over the counter and as cheap as a bottle of Tylenol. Not the $20 to $50 dollars for a single pill that it currently is.
Reproductive healthcare should be covered by health insurance, and I say this includes men too... for ED or other issues.
Things like IUD's should be covered at 100% as that actually saves the insurance companies money in the long run vs. paying for labor and delivery.
FYI, I love my IUD, beats the hell out of other methods. Don't even get that annoying once a month thing.
Essentially easy, cheap access... not free, because I am against tax payers paying for it. I'm all for Health insurance covering it though, as it is a part of our physical health.
No i think it's more along the line that next they will be say you can't have babies because that has happened not here but if you read into agenda 21 you will understand more and more of everybodys rights are slowly being taken away. The only reason they are doing this is control you honestly don't think the government gives 2 shits about anybodys baby or anybody for that matter all this shit going on in the media does not really matter when our life support systems globaly are collapsing its really simple no food no people , when the ocean dies we die and they know this its really far worse than i could ever explaine in less than 5 years from now the sun will be so intense that you will not be able to with stand it without special protection and thats a fact its way worse than just uv c
I can ride my motorcycle without a helmet and get a no seatbelt ticket in my car how come knowbody is shitting bricks over that its my body i should get to choose but suicide is illegal
The right to choose if you want to have a child, when you want to have a child, how you want to have a child, with whom you will have a child, and the right to opt out if you were raped, or otherwise taken advantage of.
Most women only talk about their own rights while hiding behind egalitarian terms like “reproductive rights”. They have no desire or intention to permit men the same privileges they already have in this regard, let alone the additional special privileges they claim are “natural rights”.
When I think of "reproductive rights" I think of a person's freedom to dictate their reproductive choices and abdicate parenthood should they choose to do so post-conception. In the case of women, this comes in the form of abortion. In the case of men, it's non-existent as far as I'm aware. You can also lump in accessible and confidential proof of paternity as a reproductive right for men. I think we'd all like to know that the kid is ours before our name goes on the birth certificate.
How about the right to have a medical procedure that stops a woman from bleeding out on the floor of an emergency room waiting room. Cause I wouldn’t want to deny a woman that right.
"reproductive rights" is a politician's way of conflating the tragedy of a 12-year-old pregnant incestual rape victim wanting to get an abortion with that of an adult deciding three days before the due date that she doesn't want a baby.
It means I get to choose if I want to reproduce or not, with who and when. It means no one gets to tell me I can only have one child. It means my employer can make me sign a contract saying i won't get pregnant. It means I'm not strapped to a breeding bench while I'm inseminated. It means I have the right to use the contraception of my choosing regardless of what the pope or anyone else says and should that fail I have the right to a safe abortion.
Liberals always come up with terms that are just the opposite of what it really is. When they say "reproductive rights" they are really talking about not reproducing. Sort of like "Affordable Healthcare Act" , "America Rescue Plan' "Build Back Better" and of course the latest "Inflation Reduction Act
Women have the right over men to chose what they do with their body because they have to live with it all their lives but I do agree that the partner (if they have one) should always get to have a say in the decision wether she choses to listen or do her own things.
Abortions were never available on demand and were never seen as an alternative to responsible use or birth control. If birth control fails and you happen to get pregnant knowing that giving birth could be bad, you are allowed to get a safe procedure to prevent it. Outlawing it means the woman must give birth or perform a dangerous personal abortion which can kill or permanently injure her. Fact is legalization of abortion saves the lives of people that are already here
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