Why should there be a double standard in the military?

[Anonymous]

Quite honestly i disagree with it. Right now, for example, in the marines women have to do half as many pull ups and push ups as men do to get a perfect score in their testing. Men have to run with a 50+ pound pack, women dont. And statistically women simply do worse than men for the physical requirements.

Here is another fun fact. All female platoons do worse than their male counter parts, mixed gender platoons do better but still worse than the all male ones. Women are injured far more often. Discharged due to disability from injury far more often, Have far greater instances of PTSD. and the list goes on. Why should we lower the standards for women when the caveats out weigh the benefits?

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[Anonymous]

We shouldn’t lower the standards but we are. Everyone knows it. It’s right there in black and white.

As someone who served with women in the military I can tell you physically the number one thing they struggled with is ruck marching. I would have to do a four mile ruck march with a 75lbs pack. I’m not going to say that all the guys aced it because they didn’t, but every woman I saw do it struggled and couldn’t complete the march in the time limit. Make of that what you will.

[Asker]

It just proves that unless they can pass what the men pass they shouldn't be in.

[LimitedBenefits101]

Dont feminist scream " women can do anything men can "😂 yeah not when it comes to military.

Weak creatures.

[Soteris]

I have explained this before, the physical requirement for the military is not really about the physical requirement at all. They are testing you to see if you are healthy, fit and have discipline. As such the target is arbitrarily set to challenge you based on what you would accomplish if you were indeed healthy, fit and had discipline.

As such it makes perfect sense if the physical requirement for women is set at the level where a physically fit and healthy woman would accomplish rather than what a man would. Again, having a different physical requirement will not change the actual combat performance of the unit because believe it or not, its the military and not an athletics team. Your primary concern is not how much you can carry or how far you can run and never was.

Also I have not actually seen a good study of how women impact the performance of units in combat. I have seen a few studies tangentially relevant such as the 2015 study but that was more to do with the challenges with integrating women into an all male unit rather than the performance after you accomplished the integration step.

As for why USA and other countries want women in the military? Well, for starters they dont have enough men to fill them out anymore since the increase in obesity and such things. You either have your army with men and women or you have to start scaling your military down.

[Agagagagaga]

Lol yes because the mighty Swedish military is to be feared 😂 fucking bunch of pansies. I watched a video where three Swedish cops and a bystander couldn’t detain one migrant. He ran circles around them and juked them out of their shoes 🤣

At least in America we kill our criminals. Swedes bend over and spread their ass cheeks.

[Soteris]

@Agagagagaga None of this changes anything I have said. I also love how you brag about killing people as if that solves the problem. Personally, I dont think Sweden should take notes from the country of mass murderers and gang violence.

[lightbulb27]

only thing I can think of is it increases the body count available.

women can serve in some roles well if not better than men. but if they are charged with some roles, they simply aren't as physically able.

it's best to apply people to where their skills are best suited, that would take most advantage of our freedom and flexibility... our strengths.

[inhua]

there shouldn't be a double standard.

war isn't some utopian fantasy. in real life, the enemy doesn't give a shit who or what you are as long as they can kill you. they won't hold back just because you happen to be weaker than them.

[SpringValley]

All wokeness benefits China.

[NerdInDenial]

There’s not enough bodies in the military.