If a modern woman has no desire to ever be a mother or have kids, should she still get special treatment for her gender, or be treated equally to men?

[MCheetah]

So I brought this up in another post and now spinning it off into its own question. I stated:

"[Modern] women have the advantage [in dating and relationships] because they're the ones who get pregnant, so literally are the ones who determine life and future offspring. People forget that back before all this modern BS, survival was the name of the game. It's why women rarely ever had to fight in wars, slave in factories, and have been pampered for most of human history. Because they're the ones to pop out the kids.

The f*cked up thing is, [many] modern women don't even want to have kids anymore, but still expect all the same perks and special privileges that women have always gotten because they were expected to be mothers.

[However,] if a modern woman doesn't want to have kids, then she needs to put in the 'man's work' and fully embrace 'equality' or shut the f*ck up. Too many simps don't understand this...

Women get their asses kissed in society because they're expected to be mothers. If a woman isn't going to be a mother, she's essentially a man by society's standards, and shouldn't expect [the same] perks when she's not going to contribute to producing offspring for the species."

So yes, that is the fact of life I brought up. Women get special perks because of their role or future role as mothers, and if they aren't going to be that, then they need to accept 100% equality - in particular, all the downsides of it - that men face in society. Including labor jobs, working longer hours, asking out people on dates, getting rejected for it, being told off for saying or doing something stupid, and actually paying for their own f*cking sh*t on dates.

This question is going to piss off a lot of people. Ask me if I care.

What do you think about it, though? Not gonna make it a poll, so people actually have to comment this time.

SHOULD WOMEN STILL GET SPECIAL TREATMENT FROM MEN IF THEY HAVE NO DESIRE OR PLANS TO *EVER* HAVE CHILDREN?

[TryMeBee]

Hell yes we should be treated equally to men! Literally a dream, life would be so much simpler. I might actually consider asking and getting rejected again if men didn't try to treat us so different and pamper-y when they do like us. And I wouldn't mind to keep working longer hours and do the more warehouse and machine jobs again instead of assembly either if I was treated the same as the men. I wouldn't even have a problem being called to war if it came to that, except that I literally can't register in this country. So someone just needs to fix that so I can select "female" without being booted off the page. 👍

But yeah I've been saying all this for years. It's nice to see some men agree and want to move toward equality as well, even if it's just for the women who don't wanna be mothers. It's still a step in the right direction. 100% support agree with doing this.

[Lucy68]

Some women just don't have that maternal instinct and honestly shouldn't be mothers. Me I'd love to be a mommy someday but I don't expect to get special treatment. However, if and whenever I do become pregnant the only special treatment I'd want personally is to have both my feet and back rubbed as well as help around the house. Why well carrying a baby can hurt your back, same for feet.

[Fuentes]

RIGHT!! Yup not every woman shouldn't be a mother infact a majority of women should not be mothers lol it's actually good a lot realize it.

We don't need more degenerate children running in the streets lol

[MCheetah]

I agree some women shouldn't be mothers. I also think they shouldn't get wined and dined and treated like royalty when they aren't going to be mothers either, because that is why men treat women this way, in the first place.

I've said before you seem higher-quality than most women out there your age who just want men as walking ATMs, simps, and guard dogs to exploit until their cash well runs dry.

[Lucy68]

Thanks

[Fuentes]

Theirs already to many kids that are in foster care and orphaned we don't need more kids anyway especially in this fucked up new clown world, where some mothers are forcing there kids to be trannies & use labels for genders & promote gender surgery for as young as 8 years old. Also woman should not be in combat roles for 101 reasons. I really don't see the issue with woman having kids or not, there's over a million women out there, some want kids, some don't, you can't fixate on one women.

Most woman are nut busters and move on after, you can't hit off every female with a grip & cuffs lol

[MCheetah]

I'm not arguing if we should produce more people in the world or not. I'm arguing should women still get their butts kissed by men/society, when they aren't going to have children. Because that's WHY they get their butts kissed by men/society. If they aren't going to have children, then they need to "man up" and accept the responsibility of being a childless worker, like childless men always have been. No more coasting by on their laurels or expecting special treatment when they're going to be single and childless for life by their own choice.

[Fuentes]

Lol yes but woman are doing that already and the ones who can't hack working a regular job are on OF and escort services, which is good cause they ruin there life's and no kid should have to grow up with a mother like that or they're broke and living off their mothers tit lol either way as long as they don't have kids it's good with me.

[llorando]

No gender should get special treatment period, everyone should be treated equally no matter what their race or gender is.

[llorando]

Thanks for MH.

[hahahmm]

Only traditional type women should get special treatment today. And the only way we know for sure if a woman is traditional is if she is in a relationship with a traditional man or actively seeking that. Women who are "strong & independent" or who say masculinity is toxic should get zero support from men.

[hahahmm]

And I would say the reason women got 'special treatment' in the old days was because they were ladies. A woman who was not a lady did not get any special treatment. Being a lady means following a moral code that includes being respectful to men. She got respect back from men in return.

[inhua]

no more special treatment. this is what gender equality should be all about.

men have and always will be expendable in society. wanna be equal to a man? well here it is. with the exception of handsome looks which often a small percentage of men have, the value men bring needs to be earned, it's not given to them by God or by male privilege or by some mythological patriarchy.

[hahahmm]

The society we have (in the 1st world) today is just an illusion created by a lot of hard working men. This illusion allows women to think that they don't need men and that women are equal. But actually the more men who believe that illusion, the more likely the illusion will collapse when there aren't enough hard working men to maintain it. Something to think about.

[whirled_up_girl]

I don’t expect special treatment by not having children. I know plenty of men who work in labor intensive fields but they choose to do that kind of work. Now if we had a society where where citizens were forced to do their vocation then, yes, I should be forced to do that vocation as well. I also work long hours as a nurse but honestly that’s because our nurses union negotiated that.

[Berethor]

They don't worthy of it, it just that most feminists want to have rights without duties.

[SpringValley]

You seem like a smart guy, so I hope you can sort out your demons.

[MCheetah]

That's a clever way of not answering the question and/or admitting it offends you.

[SpringValley]

It doesn't offend me. Trust me, no one cares about you or I. We can all be replaced in a New York second.

[MCheetah]

True.

[A_Bell]

Let me pop some popcorn and come back to read the comments on this one.

[msc545]

Women get their asses kissed mainly because men want to fuck them. It has nothing to do with children or virginity or body counts unless a guy is some creepy trad person.

[JesseJayNeak]

Equally like men